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pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 10:38 AM

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@edgy scarab sure, what's the question?

Note there are no concept of mandates for cards in our API though, it's only for payment methods like SEPA bank debits which explicitly require them to succeed, 'card mandates' is not really modelled in the API itself.

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 10:45 AM

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okie here is a question

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see here is a scenario, if ill not provide on behalf of in setup intent and if ill provide on behalf of in payment intent, payment will go through in case of credit card, but not in case of seps_debit, and I got it that it is required for cc but will require for sepa and sofort, right?

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so is there any mendata api i can achieve this functionality?

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 10:48 AM

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edgy scarab see here is a scenario, if ill not provide `on behalf of` in `setup intent` and ...

right

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 10:48 AM

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with sepa_debit, like, i do not to provide on behalf of in setup intent but want to provide it for payment intent

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any mandate api or something to make this happen

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 10:55 AM

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edgy scarab with `sepa_debit`, like, i do not to provide `on behalf of` in `setup intent` b...

unfortunately that's impossible, you will have to pass on_behalf_of on the SetupIntent or it can't work.

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

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you mean either ill pass in both or not in any one

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tell me this, while creating setup intent

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what is this param

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https://stripe.com/docs/api/setup_intents/create#create_setup_intent-mandate_data

Stripe API reference – Create a SetupIntent

Complete reference documentation for the Stripe API. Includes code snippets and examples for our Python, Java, PHP, Node.js, Go, Ruby, and .NET libraries.

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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edgy scarab you mean either ill pass in both or not in any one

yes, either you pass on_behalf_of on both the intents, or don't pass it all, indeed

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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what about this mandate_data

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what is this for?

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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edgy scarab https://stripe.com/docs/api/setup_intents/create#create_setup_intent-mandate_dat...

it's for if you're manually creating the mandate rather than having it automatically created by our frontend libraries

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 11:13 AM

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you mean we can't pass it here

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Stripe::SetupIntent.create(stripe_params)

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from BE

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 11:19 AM

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you can if you wish, but generally the mandate gets created automatically when you call confirmSepaDebitSetup on the frontend so you don't need to. https://stripe.com/docs/js/setup_intents/confirm_sepa_debit_setup#stripe_confirm_sepa_debit_setup-with_element

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 11:34 AM

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hmm right, so it do not have any impact on behalf of

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suppose, if ill pass, what value i could pass?

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 11:36 AM

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the account ID acct_xxx of a connected account that you will do the payment with later on.

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 11:36 AM

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you didn't get my point, let me ask other way

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i created a setup intent yeserday for sepa_debit

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okie

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why i am getting mandate null?

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#<Stripe::SetupIntent:0x3fcd5b6e6384 id=seti_1JrllXENbCEHqHuQDTkZmYhX> JSON: {
"id": "seti_1JrllXENbCEHqHuQDTkZmYhX",
"object": "setup_intent",
"application": null,
"cancellation_reason": null,
"client_secret": "seti_1JrllXENbCEHqHuQDTkZmYhX_secret_KWpQtVZKbdLtQyBeQvwsJhS61ZNjaVT",
"created": 1635954763,
"customer": "cus_KWpQ6XNGNxG18t",
"description": "Source: Sepa Bank Account added in Request&Reservation flow",
"last_setup_error": null,
"latest_attempt": null,
"livemode": false,
"mandate": null,
"metadata": {"period":" months starting ","instance":"dev","provider":"spaceOS"},
"next_action": null,
"on_behalf_of": null,
"payment_method": null,
"payment_method_options": {},
"payment_method_types": [
"sepa_debit"
],
"single_use_mandate": null,
"status": "requires_payment_method",
"usage": "off_session"
}

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if as you said its automatically created?

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 11:42 AM

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it's created when you confirm the SetupIntent.

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not when just creating it.

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if you now use that SetupIntent to call confirmSepaDebitSetup as mentioned above then a mandate would be created at that point.

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 11:44 AM

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how i can pass mandate data in following method

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Stripe::SetupIntent.create(stripe_params)

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where stripe params are

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          payment_method_types: ['sepa_debit'],
          customer: stripe_customer,
          usage: 'off_session',
          mandate_data: 'offline'
        }```

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or

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          payment_method_types: ['sepa_debit'],
          customer: stripe_customer,
          usage: 'off_session',
          confirm: true
        }

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I think i got your point, you are saying. when we create setupintent from backend it do not create any mandate, but when we confirmt that setup inetnt from front end via confirmSepaDebitSetup it does create a mandate, right?

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Now two questions.

Can we create mandate while creating setupintent from Backend.
Following is my mandate created from Front end, with confirmSepaDebitSetup, right.

  "id": "mandate_1JrllYENbCEHqHuQsKH4TxvY",
  "object": "mandate",
  "customer_acceptance": {"accepted_at":1635954764,"online":{"ip_address":"137.59.228.184","user_agent":"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:93.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/93.0"},"type":"online"},
  "livemode": false,
  "multi_use": {},
  "payment_method": "pm_1JrllYENbCEHqHuQNSJB6Sul",
  "payment_method_details": {"sepa_debit":{"reference":"D9QIYYTVISMAIDHJ","url":"https://hooks.stripe.com/adapter/sepa_debit/file/src_1JrllYENbCEHqHuQ2Iae4pKk/src_client_secret_rrD70MCq5GMoOrIdIsLInkpe"},"type":"sepa_debit"},
  "status": "active",
  "type": "multi_use"
}

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my question is can i create it from Front end or Back end such that it will receive payment of any on_behalf_of

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Can we create mandate while creating setupintent from Backend.
yes that's what mandate_data is for

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 11:58 AM

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edgy scarab ```stripe_params = { payment_method_types: ['sepa_debit'], c...

that's not correct. Please look at the shape in the API reference(mandate_data is an object https://stripe.com/docs/api/setup_intents/confirm#confirm_setup_intent-mandate_data ) not a string

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yes

edgy scarab Nov 4, 2021, 11:59 AM

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for 2. can you explain one thing, you are saying yes

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it means,
a. i can create setup intent with mandate_data and without on_behalf_of
b. then while creating payment_intent i can pass any on_behlaf_of

pulsar bloom Nov 4, 2021, 12:02 PM

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for 2 I'm saying yes, that is your mandate created from Front end

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a) yes if you want

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b) no

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