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• b33fb0n3_best-practices, 3 days ago, 17 messages

[cursive oar]

hi there!

[ember harbor]

hey 🙂

[cursive oar]

for what do you need help specifically? creating the Subscription? reporting usage? something else?

[ember harbor]

The overview about it. Like I would like to bill my clients based on usage. I am currently working on a backend. Right now every signed in person can just use it. However, they should pay based on their requests.

So currently for me its clear to have:

1. A product as subscription
2. The counter

So I know what I need, but I dont know the overall view on how to integrate. There are a lot of pages inside the docs, but no template or similar, where I can look into code. Code is here the important part for me.

I would also like to provide my customer a "free usage". Like: the first X events are free. I also dont know how to do that

I would also like to use payment element inside my integration later. Normally I just handle that with payment intents. I assume that does not work here as its a subscription, right?

[cursive oar]

have your ead this doc? it should be a good starting point: https://docs.stripe.com/billing/subscriptions/usage-based/implementation-guide?dashboard-or-api=api

[ember harbor]

Ah thanks, yea, thats the overview I was looking for.

What do you think about the following points:

• I would also like to provide my customer a "free usage". Like: the first X events are free. I also dont know how to do that
• I would also like to use payment element inside my integration later. Normally I just handle that with payment intents. I assume that does not work here as its a subscription, right?

[cursive oar]

I would also like to provide my customer a "free usage". Like: the first X events are free. I also dont know how to do that
we call this billing credits: https://docs.stripe.com/billing/subscriptions/usage-based/billing-credits/implementation-guide

I would also like to use payment element inside my integration later. Normally I just handle that with payment intents. I assume that does not work here as its a subscription, right?
it would be very similar. instead of directly creating a PaymentIntent, use the PaymentIntent that is created by the Subscription.

so when creating the Subscription, add expand: ['latest_invoice.confirmation_secret'], and then use the client secret to mount the Payment Element.

[ember harbor]

My customer can create multiple tokens. With each token they can make request against the API. All of the tokens count towards the user, but I assume it would be great for him to see the counts for each token on his one billing. How can I do that?

[ember harbor]

and when do I create the subscription? Can I even create it without the user notice?

Like:
Sign up: Stripe customer gets created and ID saved in DB
Login: Stripe customer ID set into JWT
Token creation: ???

When the user loads the subscription page? When the user creates a token? When what happens?

[cursive oar]

My customer can create multiple tokens. With each token they can make request against the API. All of the tokens count towards the user, but I assume it would be great for him to see the counts for each token on his one billing. How can I do that?
you want to retrive usage for a given customer? if so, the doc link I shared earlier has a section about this at the bottom of the page

and when do I create the subscription? Can I even create it without the user notice?
well, that's completely up to you. a common flow if to first create the subscription and collect a payment method. once that's done, give the customer access to your services.

[ember harbor]

More like: when the customer receives his bill, like his invoice for the subscription I assume its something like:

Product X 123 * 0,25 $ 30,75 $

But what about something like:

Token "X" 123 * 0,25 $ 30,75 $
Token "Y" 157 * 0,25 $ ... $
Token "Z" 227 * 0,25 $ ... $

[cursive oar]

Then the subscription would have 3 prices, each price with its own meter.

[ember harbor]

so the user enteres the subscription page, then a request is made to my backend that creates the subscription via stripe and it returns the payment intent secret and ID back to the customer, so he can pay it via payment elements, right?

If he refresh the page, a new subscription will be created and the first one will never be fulfilled, right?

[cursive oar]

that's the simplest option yes. but you could also:

• reuse the same subscription instead of creating a new one
• or use our new flow where you can mount the Payment Element without having a PaymentIntent/Subscriptions, this is explained here: https://docs.stripe.com/payments/accept-a-payment-deferred?platform=web&type=subscription

[ember harbor]

so each token that is created will receive its own price even if its always the same price?

And the customer at the end will receive one billing, right? Not for each one, right?

So when I have 10 customers and each create 3 tokens, then a total of 30 objects exists, that do all the same just a different counter, right?