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[gilded juniper]

As the doc said this, I wonder that why rollback a subscription upgrade need to pay a new invoice?
Well they don't need to pay a new invoice. But a new invoice will be generated automatically as part of the manual rollback. There are obviously ways you can reduce the amount due on the invoice, as noted

This is the benefit of using pending updates as they handle the rollback automatically without the need for a new invoice

[copper bone]

"But a new invoice will be generated automatically as part of the manual rollback." Is that the stripe system will generate a new invoice when upgrade pay failed? Then what shall we do to rollback the upgrade?

[gilded juniper]

No, we'll generate a new invoice when you update the Subscription to rollback to change made without payment_behavior: 'pending_if_incomplete'

[copper bone]

"Pending updates aren’t supported when the subscription’s collection_method is send_invoice or when bank debits are used as the payment method for the subscription."
Is this still correct?

[gilded juniper]

Unfortunately yes

The way the upgrade/downgrade manual 'rollback' (i.e. without pending_if_incomplete) works following a failed payment is that you'd make a call to update the subscription back to it's original state pre-upgrade/downgrade (i.e. the rollback). That inherently will generate an invoice, and depending on the parameters passed may have an amount due

Obviously you can void that, or pass parameters like a trial period up until the next natural billing cycle to avoid another payment

[copper bone]

is that mean when upgrade pay failed and we decide to rollback, then we should make another Subscription.Update call to update it to the original? And even we update it to the original, it will still generate a new invoice, and we can void this invoice safety?

[lilac shoal]

hi! I'm taking over this thread.

is your latest question about not using pending_if_incomplete?

[copper bone]

YES

[copper bone]

is this right?

[lilac shoal]

then yes it's correct. I would recommend to try all of this in test mode to see exactly how it works.