#guy-mike_api

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lavish fox
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We don't automatically retry payments for send_invoice invoices no

fervent flint
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Thank you @lavish fox

One more thing, sorry for scope creep. When the "due date" arrives for send_invoice, it is not automatically charged either, it has to be initiated manually via invoice pay api, correct?

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We don't automatically retry payments for send_invoice invoices no
Does it also mean that it's not possible for "send_invoice" type to have any sort of automatic payment related activities, unless done via API "manually".

lavish fox
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Correct, the due date is purely aesthetic

lavish fox
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/pay endpoint is generally not recommended as it can't handle 3DS/auth flows

fervent flint
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/pay endpoint is generally not recommended as it can't handle 3DS/auth flows
Ok thank you... This is something I did not know. We went with the "send_invoice" type because we wanted to "adjust" a previous invoice with the customer. But for that we needed to add a specific description on the invoice line, for each such case. The Invoice api has more granular control over it. Compared to "Quote", which we use otherwise.

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Are the 3ds/auth flows handled better with invoice type of "charge_automatically"?

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IIRC charge_automatically had no "due date"

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Ok, sorry - you gave a finger and I am trying to take your hand. I got the answer to my original question. Just ten new ones pop up ๐Ÿ™‚

lavish fox
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Are the 3ds/auth flows handled better with invoice type of "charge_automatically"?
The type of invoice isn't really the issue. If you customer is deemed 'off-session' (as is with /pay endpoint) and 3DS/auth is requested on the payment then it'll be a decline. The same is true for a charge_automatically invoice if it's recurring/off-session

fervent flint
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I see. So in the end of the day, it does not matter which invoicing type we use without the customers direct involvement. If they decide not to pay and they have a reasonable bank (providing 3DS) then it's a dispute department issue basically from this point on.

lavish fox
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I don't understand that part

fervent flint
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I guess it makes sense as well, if there was a malicious Stripe API user, they could bill customers for infinite amount of money

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I don't understand that part
What I meant is that, 3DS requires customer's direct involvement. We are building a system where the customer gets an invoice on their e-mail that requires them to make an additional payments to their previous services which they used with us. They get an invoice stating that the due date is in 7 days. We were under the assumption that we can charge the customer if they somehow "forget" to do so.

lavish fox
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OK, I didn't understand the dispute part

fervent flint
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Yeah sorry. It has nothing to do with Stripe disputes.

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Thank you for your help!