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magic meteor
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Hello

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What kind of Connected Accounts are these?

proud thicket
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uhh, it's using the new nomenclature

magic meteor
proud thicket
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controller stuff?

magic meteor
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I find some settings that can be changed via the Account resource API, but it doesn't appear to contain any of the Branding settings available in the dashboard when I compare the two.
Can you explain more about this?

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What have you tried so far?

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Do you have examples?

proud thicket
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basically they're standard accounts in regards to the charging pattern, where it is direct charges and the customers think they're transacting directly with our clients. But, I don't want to give them a full dashboard, so it will likely use embedded components to give them what we need.

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I can control the branding and everything already, that's fine. What I'm talking about is this:

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so that's all of the billing/invoicing settings from our platform dashboard.

magic meteor
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Ah I see

proud thicket
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but I would assume a connected account has a similar set of settings.

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and if I'm doing direct charges w/ invoices, I assume it uses their settings.

magic meteor
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Yeah that is why they would need a full Dashboard here

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You can't control those Invoice settings via the API

proud thicket
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interesting, ok.

magic meteor
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The Connected Account has to set those themselves if you are using Direct Charges

proud thicket
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I guess we could use destination charges, but I would still want to pass on whatever the stripe fees are. I don't believe there's a way to do that automatically though.

magic meteor
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Yes that is correct. You would bake the fees into the amount you take as the platform in that case.

proud thicket
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but I can't adjust them based on payment method dynamically, can I?

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like, for example, ACH is cheaper than a card.

magic meteor
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That depends on your integration flow

proud thicket
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that doesn't work with invoices though, right?

magic meteor
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Yes it does

proud thicket
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oh interesting.

magic meteor
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Are you creating one-off Invoices here or Subscriptions?

proud thicket
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but I take it that means there is no such capability baked into stripe to be able to price the application fee dynamically based on payment methods used.

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these are one-off invoices.

magic meteor
proud thicket
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in beta though.

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it looks like from the screenshots I could use it to basically mirror the Stripe fees based on payment method.

magic meteor
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Yeah, sorry, we aren't really familiar with beta features but you are right -- I do think that would work for your use-case actually

proud thicket
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OK, and on_behalf_of would apply the connected account's branding.

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yeah, it's probably easier to do a destination charge so I can control the invoicing retries and stuff if that's not available via the API.

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we've tried the standard account approach before, with the full dashboard, but it just wasn't the right fit. It really needs to be controlled within our app's dashboard, as these customers aren't online payment savvy.

magic meteor
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Yep we recommend destination charges + on_behalf_of for that then

proud thicket
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alright, I'll ask to be let into the beta and see what happens.

magic meteor
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๐Ÿ‘

proud thicket
# magic meteor You can't control those Invoice settings via the API

So, I could totally see this being useful as an embedded Connect component. Not sure if that's planned but wanted to pass it along as a feature request.

The reason I ask is that my use case should really be using direct charges, since it's not a marketplace type business that fits the destination charge model like the docs recommend. It's more about enabling our customer to collect payments from theirs, but with a more advanced billing system for the fee and fine use case that Stripe can't natively support. We just power the payments and dunning via Stripe invoicing.

However, a lot of the other information like branding, support numbers, additional notices configs, fee and fine schedules, etc live in other places outside of Stripe. I sync the relevant pieces of info to Stripe, like the branding for example. Being able to give my connected accounts control over the invoice settings without letting them change other items would probably be the most ideal solution.

magic meteor
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Yeah I think that is a totally fair feature request -- I'm happy to pass it along.

proud thicket
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I think I've already asked for embedded components for managing invoices too, like an invoice list and invoice details page mirroring what the dashboard offers today.

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but if that's not already in there you could bundle those as well.

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cheers!

magic meteor
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Will do