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limpid glade
We're getting there 🙂
So I am John, I pay $10 about some say "video game content" and then I get access to content/video/whatever from 3 creators and you (the platform) take 14% and give the rest to those 3 creators
Yes that's correct
desert sluice
Hello! koopajah had to step away, but I'd be happy to help if you can provide a summary of the issue and your question!
limpid glade
So customer pays to product, not directly to creators, one product here is a digital content, I've created a product for each digital content, it would be kept updating by a group of creators, viewers could donate one time, or pay recurrly in self defined ammount and self defined intervals using subscription price_data inline payment.
Say after the previous payout to creators completed, now in this current self-defined intervals, viewers donate some one times, and some new and existing subscriptions paid, how do I fetch those new payments, collect platform fee and transfer the remaining funds to the group of creators?
Or does the collecting fees and transfering the remaing funds has to happen right after a customer pay? If that's the case, I see no problem of one time, I could start transfer immediately right after pay, but what about subscription?
And for moving funds from customers to my platform. Do I need to create charges to move those money to my platform account? When exactly should that happen, right after a user pays, or I don't need to, since those are already paid to my platform account
Is there anyway we could talk, for it'd be faster
desert sluice
No, there's no way for us to talk.
Let's focus on one thing at a time. What's the main thing that's stopping you from moving forward?
limpid glade
Have you looked at the summary?
I implemented customer one time, and recurring payment via subscription inline price data
Now I just need to collect customers fees and payout to a group of creators
desert sluice
Right.
What's stopping you from doing that?
I'm here to help you get unblocked and move forward, but I don't know what's blocking you.
limpid glade
Could you answer the questions in the summary?
What and how?
What to do and how to do it?
I said in many possible ways which one is correct and how?
desert sluice
I mean, I can, but you won't like the answers, because they won't be specific enough to be of any use.
limpid glade
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desert sluice
For example:
Say after the previous payout to creators completed, now in this current self-defined intervals, viewers donate some one times, and some new and existing subscriptions paid, how do I fetch those new payments, collect platform fee and transfer the remaining funds to the group of creators?
You can use the API to do this.
limpid glade
I'm not finding that specific API
desert sluice
I don't know what you've tried, what error(s) you're hitting, what's sstopping you from proceeding, etc.
There is no specific API. The question you asked was so broad and vague that it would involve many different API endpoints.
limpid glade
I already told you, I'm asking which way is correct to do? And which API?
No it's not
Is @rare marsh around?
desert sluice
He is not around, no.
limpid glade
I already told you my scenario, why is it broad?
desert sluice
Your questions are very broad.
limpid glade
If you cannot provide an api, what's the point of my asking
I don't think it is
one time platform fee and then payout
subscription platform fee and then payout
desert sluice
But the payouts go to multiple people?
limpid glade
one time invoice I don't see whereI could collect platform fee, so is subscription
limpid glade
But the payouts go to multiple people?
Of course
Like I've mentioned in the summary...?
desert sluice
Have you read through this? https://stripe.com/docs/connect/separate-charges-and-transfers
limpid glade
pay out to a group of creatoers
Yes I have
There's little code in that, when it mentions but with no code or API
When would @rare marsh be around, could you nudge him? It seems you are not understanding my problem
As I stated my scenario is very specific, not broad
desert sluice
Can you ask a more specific question?
desert sluice
I'm waiting for you to ask a single, specific question.
limpid glade
Let me mentioned it again, I've implemented one time, and recurring payments, how do I collect platform fees, and then payout to difference people?
I've already told I'm very specific, I will just repeat myself, could you let a more experienced stripe dev to help me?
desert sluice
The answer is the docs I linked you to above.
limpid glade
@rare marsh He understand the problem
desert sluice
You use separate charges and transfers.
limpid glade
Don't you see my replies, no it only mentions in the word, not the apis
Could you be specific on your answers?
separate charges and transfers
How?
desert sluice
You don't see these code snippets at the top of the page I linked you to?
limpid glade
Subscription, how do i collect platfrom fee?
Does it mentioned that?
How do I wait for a subscription paid say in this month, and collect platform fee and payout?
desert sluice
Subscriptions with separate charges and transfers are covered here: https://stripe.com/docs/connect/subscriptions#create-separate-charges-and-transfers
limpid glade
I've read that, it does not tell me how to collect platform fees, either auto or manual, the manual goes straight to the first doc link you provided
desert sluice
Yeah, there's a reason for that: it's the doc you need to read.
limpid glade
My platform subscriptions pricing is defined by customer themselves, it's arbitrary, it's not fixed
desert sluice
The way it works is that you transfer amounts to your connected accounts minus the fee you want to keep.
limpid glade
Yeah, there's a reason for that: it's the doc you need to read.
I told you I already read it. Could you read it, it does not tell me....
desert sluice
So if you want to keep a $5 fee from a $20 charge and you have three connected accounts involved you would transfer $5 to each of them, leaving $5 remaining on the platform.
limpid glade
But the value of pricing for each subscription is different
Say a content has 3 subscriptions, 10
10$ a month, 20$ a month, 30$ a month
How do I collect the platform fees for those three
desert sluice
You don't. You instead transfer the amount minus the fee you want to keep.
limpid glade
Do I implement a charge right after creating those three subscription, or do I add a charge every time they pay within their interval?
I understand what you are saying
desert sluice
The full amount lands on your platform. It's not like you're taking money from the connected accounts. The connected accounts have zero at the beginning. You give them what they get minus the fee you want to keep for yourself.
This is all explained in detail in the docs I linked you to above.
limpid glade
I understand all of that
Say a content has 3 subscriptions, 10
10$ a month, 20$ a month, 30$ a month
desert sluice
What is "a content"?
limpid glade
Let me repeat again my question. When do I make the charge and then transfer, after subscription is created, or after a payment for current interval of a subscription
A digital content is my product as stated in my summary
desert sluice
You don't make the charge. The Subscription creates an Invoice for each period, the Invoice creates a Payment Intent, and the Payment Intent creates one or more Charges. You then create the Transfers separately from that.
limpid glade
In which state, I make a transfer?
desert sluice
What do you mean by "state"?
limpid glade
How do I know when an invoice arrived and an invoice is from a subscription
I need to know the invoice arrive to collect and payout
desert sluice
You can listen for Events generated by the Subscription to know when it does things like create an Invoice, or when an Invoice is paid: https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/overview#subscription-events
limpid glade
I think it's a webhook, do you have other means, like when a subscription created, I could make a transfer automatically when a fee is paid within an interval using API?
desert sluice
Other means? Like what for example? Why do you not want to use webhooks for this?
limpid glade
I do not want to use webhooks, I've asked do you have an API for it?
For what example?....
like when a subscription created, I could make a transfer automatically when a fee is paid within an interval using API?
desert sluice
You can poll the list Events API, but I don't recommend doing that.
limpid glade
I don't want polling or webhook, stripe doesn't have methods to hookup the transfer and subscription created?
desert sluice
No.
Not using separate charges and transfers.
If you only had a single connected accuont to transfer to you could use destination charges, but you have multiple connected accounts to transfer to.
limpid glade
But using seperate charges and transfers, I need to know the exact amount and when that invoice would arrive