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daring spear
Hi there!
austere wind
hey!
weak minnow
Hi, is this a case for Subscription?
weak minnow
It's better to have a separate product, with a metered volume price: https://stripe.com/docs/products-prices/pricing-models#metered
austere wind
like P1T1 P1T2 and P1T3?
weak minnow
You will have 2 items on the Subscription for each tier: the base Price, and the metered overdraft Price.
When you notice that the usage goes over the limit, you can start reporting the extra usage with UsageRecord API: https://stripe.com/docs/api/usage_records/create
austere wind
you mean 6 items, because there are 3 products in the subscription
idea is that subscription have 3 products in it
as a pack
weak minnow
Yes. You can in theory have 3 metered Prices with a flat fee, but then it will only be paid in the end of each billing period.
weak minnow
idea is that subscription have 3 products in it
You mean a customer can choose between 3 Prices to start a Subscription? Starter/Company/Pro?
austere wind
yes. and this defines minimum monthly payment + overdraft price.
but making separate product for each tier is kinda problematic.
weak minnow
Why is this problematic?
austere wind
when I need to change tiers, I need to create/delete products
weak minnow
What do you mean by "change tiers"?
austere wind
price, included volumes or new tier
weak minnow
Yes, you will need to create a new pair of Prices if you want to update the pricing.
Sorry for typos.
austere wind
so what is better? Have separate product with single price for each tier? Or have multiple prices for each tier in a product?
weak minnow
Each tier must have a separate Product for sure, as they will have a different metadata: name, description, maybe image.
Now, you can decide if you want to
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have a single Price with flat fee charged at the end of the month/period, or
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have one flat fee Price charged at the beginning of the period, and a Price which you will use to record the overdraft, charged at the end of the period.
austere wind
hmm, now I am more confused. I want to charge customers in the beginning of the month for package price for the next month + overdraft for previous month. What should I choose?
weak minnow
Then you need 2 Prices for each Tier.
1 for the package price and 1 for the overdraft (will be charged at the end of the period, with the next month's package)
austere wind
so 1 product * 6 prices (3 tiers * 2 prices)?
weak minnow
No, 6 Products * 1 Price.
austere wind
so P1T1 P1T2 P1T3?
sorry, cant wrap my head around it
how subscription will look like?
weak minnow
Product: Starter package, Price: flat fee
Product: Starter overdraft, Price: metered volume
Product: Company package, Price: flat fee
Product: Company overdraft, Price: metered volume
Oh wait. I see that you have 3 different products inside each tier
austere wind
yeah 😦
weak minnow
Sorry I didn't realise.
dense marlinBOT
weak minnow
It's the same then, just more objects:
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Starter Product 1 package, Price: flat fee
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Starter Product 1 overdraft, Price: metered volume
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Starter Product 2 package, Price: flat fee
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Starter Product 2 overdraft, Price: metered volume
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Company Product 1 package, Price: flat fee
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Company Product 1 overdraft, Price: metered volume
...
18 Products * 1 Price in total
You can use the Product/Price API to automate that to make it easier to manage: https://stripe.com/docs/api/products
austere wind
why I cant make graduated pricing and have single product per tier?
with first usage as flat fee = 0, and overdraft with defined pricing?
in this case, I will just report usage to stripe without thinking about is it overdraft or not
soft dust
👋 taking over for my colleague. Let me catch up.
soft dust
why I cant make graduated pricing and have single product per tier?
I'm not sure I understand
austere wind
So, I could do graduated pricing for each product. I can put tier price into first grade of first product with flat fee. Other products in this subcription will have 0 flat fee. If I report more usage, then it will be charged gradually.
This will also save me from decisions of when to send usage to stripe: I will report all billable usage
austere wind
ok, ill try. have you looked at the table above?
Product 1 Tier 1
Graduated pricing
for the first 100 units it's flat $99
then $3 per unit
Product 2 Tier 1
Graduated pricing
for the first 10 units it's flat 0
then $30 per unit
Product 3 Tier 1
Graduated pricing
for the first 5 units it's flat 0
then $31 per unit
Product 1 Tier 2
Graduated pricing
for the first 500 units it's flat $499
then $2 per unit
Product 2 Tier 2
Graduated pricing
for the first 50 units it's flat 0
then $20 per unit
Product 3 Tier 2
Graduated pricing
for the first 25 units it's flat 0
then $21 per unit
soft dust
ok this is doable
austere wind
it does not support float values, so what is the proper way to do this? for example, second could be report unit, but billing is by hours. Users will get crazy if see the invoice with seconds.
also, could you please tell how to decrease metered value?
ah, I see, set or increment
soft dust
ah, I see, set or increment
yes correct
soft dust
it does not support float values, so what is the proper way to do this? for exam...
I think you should keep tab on your end, and once they pass the hour threshold you add a usage record
austere wind
thank, that is really unfortunate, because I need to group usage stat requests somehow in my side
soft dust
yes that's correct