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Good question, checking in to this and will get back to you. Where did these screenshots come from? Is this implemented in one of our docs?

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These examples come from a different site using Stripe too, I noticed it and want to achieve the same.

I did talk to the developer that made the site and he said it worked for him without third party plugin.

I do have Tax Collection enabled for Domestic and OOS. automatic_tax is set on true before creating the checkout session (the checkout URL above)

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I did find some information in the general docs (guide) about reverse charging but nothing inside the API docs

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Do you have a link to the site or the Checkout Session that you got those screenshots from? No worries if not, it just may be helpful for me to be able to compare

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Yeah I do

It applies zero tax if you select the Purchase as a Business and use a dummy VAT Number

You could grab one here:

https://www.benel.eu/en/service/vat-numbers

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Thank you, checking in to this and will get back to you with what I can find.

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Thank you

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tax is zero on that session because the reverse-charge tax is in effect.

https://stripe.com/docs/tax/zero-tax#reverse-charges

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Yes the example checkout has it working properly, but my checkout doesn’t apply reverse charge

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which one is yours again? cs_live_a1Foa6vfZJGeCuADKDRhMYwKcE3vX2efEfGIVz6jE6pMYLT1qGF2HMpGHT ?

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No thats the example

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then I'm not really sure what you mean by your one "not applying"

I'm in Ireland, when I visit and choose to check out as a business, I get $0 tax because it's B2B across EU contries, so it's reverse tax as I mentioned.
If I pick Netherlands(the country of your merchant account), then tax is applied as it's B2B inside a country and the NL VAT applies.

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Yeah so the issue is the total due doesn’t change, which makes it look like it’s not applied.

€90.75 = inclusive VAT
€75 = exclusive VAT

If you try the same at the example checkout, you will see what I mean, or just see the screenshots at the beginning of this thread

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yeah but that is how it works for inclusive tax

the example you give for the other merchant , they are using exclusive tax on their Price; you're using Inclusive.

https://stripe.com/docs/tax/zero-tax#reverse-charges

For transactions with inclusive tax behavior where reverse charge applies, the buyer pays the full unit_amount Price, but isn’t charged tax.

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Ah so basically what I want to achieve is precisely not reverse charging?

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The table explains it, but the implementation doesn’t seem to work.

Different Different EU country for B2B = No VAT (reverse charge)

But that would be €75 as total due

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I'm not entirely sure what you want to achieve, but this is how inclusive versus exclsive tax works, I suppose your question is more about how tax works than how Stripe works.

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Now it shows zero tax but the total due is still the same

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yes, which as the docs say : 'the buyer pays the full unit_amount Price,' , and the price is 90.75

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To achieve what I explained here, do I need to change something with the API or is it the pricing settings in the dashboard?

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you can create the Price with exclsive tax behaviour if that's what you want

https://stripe.com/docs/api/prices/create#create_price-tax_behavior
https://stripe.com/docs/products-prices/manage-prices?dashboard-or-api=dashboard#create-price

but yeah overall , not changing the amount charged when using reverse tax with inclusive tax behaviour is our Stripe Tax product works today [0], there is some feedback from other users asking the same thing as you(wanting the amount to 'back out' so it reduces in this case) but it doesn't work that way today.
[0] - Currently, when we apply reverse charge to tax-inclusive prices, the price will remain unchanged. Thus if the original price is 100 EUR (including 20% tax), the final price with reverse charge will be 100 EUR (with 0% tax).

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How comes that this checkout has it exactly as I stated (back out)?

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Because this makes it confusing

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How comes that this checkout has it exactly as I stated (back out)?
like I said, the other merchant is using Exclusive tax behaviour

you are using inclusive

so they're not testing the same thing

but yeah I agree the way it works for the Inclusive + Reverse case today is confusing and not really what you'd expect, but we seem to be aware of it internally and track feedback on it, couldn't tell you why that's the way it's built but it is how it is.

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So change it to exclusive tax behavior, I need to select this?

https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/tax

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yes

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Okay I will try it out now, one moment pleae

Created new price for the product and will check if the tax behavior changes at checkout

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Seems to work now, before contacting you guys I have tried it incluive and exlusive but probably because my tax settings were not set up properly

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maybe!