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sinful remnantBOT
zinc mica
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Hi
Can you share more details about your ask please ?

sick flame
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Hi

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So the previous conversation was as below:

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My devs have come back to me with this though

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"becuase we we did it - it's not working
we search and found that the checker data come from radar - if the radar is disabled no result will come - so am really confused "

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@golden crane @stiff palm

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@golden crane can you elaborate at all

stiff palm
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the response
"card": {
"brand": "visa",
"checks": {
"address_line1_check": null,
"address_postal_code_check": null,
"cvc_check": "pass"
},
cvc_check
once return pass and once return fails

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with the same data

zinc mica
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First, why you want to check this on your behalf? just to understand the exact need here

sick flame
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We're not using Radar. But we want to run these checks manually ourselves to help prevent fraud.

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Pompey told us this was possible so we've disabled Radar since, but are struggling to get it to work. Make sense?

zinc mica
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We're not using Radar. But we want to run these checks manually ourselves to help prevent fraud.
But here, you are not doing the check your selves, you are relying on Stripe output in order to see if the check passes or not.

golden crane
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Is this will help us cheking CVC and postal code while the Radar is off ?

zinc mica
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No. CVC and postal code checks are made by Stripe and not your integration. In other way you are not going to make direct API calls to the card's issuer network and verify the CVC and postal card by your self.

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But these other features that'll prevent/protect you from card/testing

sick flame
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The specific question we asked Stripe (screenshot above) was can we chance CVCs and Zipcodes without paying for radar, and we were told yes. So was that incorrect or am I missing something?

zinc mica
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You can't really rely on that, my colleagues already told you that (you can do something by checking those fields) but I think we are all agree that those checks are made at the end by Stripe and not your integration.

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The best way remains using Stripe Radar, because there is no explicit API to call in order to make a cvc/postal code check manually

sick flame
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Yes it's clear Stripe would be doing the checking, but not that we would need Radar for Stripe to do this. That was my original question and I think it was pretty clear?

So it sounds like we can't make these checks without Radar enabled and we've been spending our time down a rabbit hole?

zinc mica
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Yes, the most accurate way is to use Stripe Radar for that.

sick flame
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And there is no other possible way at all that we can check CVC or postcode matches without radar?

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(even if less accurate)?

zinc mica
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AFAIK, nope.

sinful remnantBOT
sick flame
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Is it worth following up with Pompey as they thought there was?

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And we've paid a ton for Radar so far, and been hit by fraud several times. It's really worked out to be pretty useless and not worth the money. So we're trying to figure out what the best balance of protection is without paying for Radar when it doesn't seem to work that well

broken ivy
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Hi! I'm taking over this thread.

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If I understand correctly, you want access to address_postal_code_check and cvc_check without using Radar? I think it should work, can you clarify what exactly is the issue?

sick flame
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Hey Soma

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Yeah so originally we asked the below question

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Basically we were paying a lot for Radar but still getting hit hard by fraud attacks. So we wanted to move away from Radar as it wasn't providing the protection we were sold on.

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However we still want to do everything we can to protect ourselves from fraud.

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We asked Pompey if we could still do CVC and postcode validation checks without Radar and they said yes

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We've been trying, but unsuccessful so far

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so were asking for some guidance on this

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but os4m37 thought we couldn't actually do this at all?

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@broken ivy

broken ivy
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Sorry for the delay, Discord is busy.

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We've been trying, but unsuccessful so far
Can you clarify what you mean by unsuccessful? What exactly have you tried, and what doesn't work?

sick flame
stiff palm
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https://stripe.com/docs/api/payment_methods/object#payment_method_object-card-checks-cvc_check

retruns

"card": {
"brand": "visa",
"checks": {
"address_line1_check": null,
"address_postal_code_check": null,
"cvc_check": "pass"
},
cvc_check
once return pass and once return fails
with the same data

Stripe API reference – The PaymentMethod object – curl

Complete reference documentation for the Stripe API. Includes code snippets and examples for our Python, Java, PHP, Node.js, Go, Ruby, and .NET libraries.

golden crane
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the data we are using must return with false as it is not the correct data

stiff palm
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after disabled radar cvc check

burnt nymph
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cvc_check
once return pass and once return fails
with the same data
maybe it would be best to write to https://support.stripe.com/?contact=true with the example requests req_xxx of that happening so they could investigate?

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clearly we're well past the point of this being a simple anonymous Discord conversation given it's multiple threads over multiple hours so best to write to our support team and your account managers etc if you have those so you can have an in-depth conversation and review

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thanks!