#RON WAFFLE
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Hi! Let me help you with this.
3DSecure is not something Stripe controls, but it's required by banks. We just help you handle it. Otherwise the payment fails.
Can you not make rules in the dashboard to not request it?
Not sure what you're referring to. As I mentioned, we don't control those rules.
In radar you can set rules to request 3ds
I was wondering if we can turn it off for some payments, i.e payments taken over the phone etc
I'm not sure how Radar works, you could ask Stripe Support: https://support.stripe.com/?contact=true
But, I assume this is some extra 3DS, even if the bank doesn't require it.
However, if the bank does require it, there's nothing we can do.
thank you
Happy to help. Please, let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you, I was also wondering about subscriptions with direct debit
For example if a customers monthly payment increases with a Direct Debit, would that require a new mandate or can we increase the subscription amount without this?
Good question, let me check.
when you say direct debit, what are you referring to exactly? card payment are not direct debits, as you asking about one of our specific bank debit payment methods? https://stripe.com/docs/payments/bank-debits
ok, BACS.
because a new mandate is 6 days I believe?
rather than a renewal for example which is 3
yes, the payments take longer to process when there is not an existing mandate already in place
as for if you need new mandate acceptance if a recurring subscription amount changes, it's a good question, I don't know, there is nothing in our public docs about this and I'm not finding an answer in internal documentation either.
Ah okay thank you
So If a BACS direct debit subscription changes for example from £10 to £20 you are not sure if this is considered a new mandate?
my guess anyway is that the mandate is not for a specific amount, it's just attestation that that the customer allows the merchant(you) to charge the account
correct, I don't know, I can't find any information on it. if you need a definitive answer you can write to https://support.stripe.com/?contact=true and ask them to raise a question internally to the product team and will likely get an answer eventually
Thank you, I have one more question please
I am switching tokens from our previous payment processor and was wondering about how this would work with expired cards. Because my old payment processor doesn't auto update tokens/cards. After the import will the stripe auto updater work on these expired tokens and update them?
yes we run our updater on all cards including ones imported
thank you, so after import they should be updated?
if you talk to our migration team they'll tell you that one of the recommended/suggested steps is to wait a month after importing before charging as that allows our updater to update the imported cards , as far as I remember
thank you
Are BACS direct debits payments only ever tried once?
To avoid bank fees, Stripe doesn’t retry invoice payments that customers made with bank debit methods including: ACH direct debit, BECS direct debit, Bacs direct debit, or SEPA direct debit.
yep, that is the page I was about to link you to answer that question.
does that apply to subscriptions too? or can we retry manually
it only applies to subscriptions. I don't know how you'll be integrating. If you use the PaymentIntent API directly for example, you control when a payment attempt is made (by calling the Confirm PaymentIntent API) and we never retry anything.
I am just wondeirng when a subscription fails and you try the payment
can I then retry myself with that payment method>
you could confirm the PaymentIntent associated with the Invoice or call https://stripe.com/docs/api/invoices/pay I believe, to manually retry a payment on a subscription's invoice.
thank you