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tame niche
Hi there
open zephyr
Hi
tame niche
If a Sub has been moved to a status of canceled then it can't be un-canceled and a new one needs to be created
open zephyr
okay, ty for that
tame niche
In terms of renewing the Sub before it is moved to canceled, if the most recent Invoice is successfully paid then the Sub will move back to active
See: https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/overview#unpaid-subscriptions for talking about unpaid Subscriptions
open zephyr
So... If the sub is not canceled then I should try to update it
Is that what you're saying?
tame niche
Well you don't really need to update it, you just pay the invoice
open zephyr
I'm talking about API...
tame niche
Unless you want to change the Price
But yeah, I wouldn't create a new one unless the Sub is canceled.
open zephyr
Does this code:
$session = $stripe->checkout->sessions->create([
'customer' => $cus_id,
'success_url' => 'https://example.com/',
'cancel_url' => 'https://example.com/',
'mode' => 'subscription',
'line_items' => [[
'price' => $priceId,
// For metered billing, do not pass quantity
'quantity' => 1,
]],
]);
handle the subscription upgrade?
tame niche
A Checkout Session will always create a new Subscription
open zephyr
okay..
tame niche
You use https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/update if you want to update an existing Sub
open zephyr
But this code updates the sub immedeitely?
tame niche
Yes
open zephyr
And he needs to pay before that
tame niche
What are you trying to update exactly?
Like if all you want is the Subscription to move to active then you don't need to update it at all
It will automatically move to active once the most recent Invoice is paid
open zephyr
I want to upgrade it for someone from silver to gold
user already has silver but he wants to upgrade to gold...
tame niche
Oh okay then yeah that would involve changing the Price
So yes that is the right endpoint
open zephyr
Immediate payment
Stripe immediately attempts payment for these subscription changes:
okay I see this..
tame niche
Yep
open zephyr
But how do I redirect him to payment?
As I understood correctly he will pay just extra, not the full price..
tame niche
Well that depends. Is the customer on your site when this update occurs?
open zephyr
yeah
tame niche
Gotcha I got to step away but my colleague will hop on and can talk to you about how to do that
open zephyr
ok
open zephyr
Or you want to collect a new one?
What's the point to use the same method..
but I have his cus_ID
indigo rivet
Hi there 👋 taking over.
So if you're doing an upgrade/downgrade of a Subscription, you should already have a payment method on file for that Customer correct?
open zephyr
Nah, I'm not saving it. The only things I'm saving are: sub_ID and cus_ID
on my end
Things are in the development stage.. 😄
indigo rivet
Wait, so you're going to manually recollect payment details everytime the Subscription comes due? Or are you going to email them an Invoice?
open zephyr
customers pay with cc..
click buy -> go to the payment page -> enter CC -> redirect to merchant
I don't even know whats the policy on sub upgrades.. Is it full or only extra? Subs are going to pay yearly
indigo rivet
I have no idea what that question means. I would recommend building out the simpler parts of this integration first to familiarize yourself with how this stuff works before asking questions about advanced billing scenarios.
open zephyr
For example my sub is on silver subscription and pays 50 eur / month and he wants to upgrade it to gold which is 100 eur / month. How do I do that?
He payed with a CC and I would like him to pay extra immediately
indigo rivet
Have you built the regular subscription flow yet?
open zephyr
ye
indigo rivet
Can you send me an example of a test mode subscription ID that you created so I can see how it's being done so far?
Also, refer to these docs on how to do upgrades/downgrades: https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/upgrade-downgrade
open zephyr
Well I'm refering but I want him to pay the extra first, then update the subscription
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I dont actually know, maybe upgrade for free and pay more on next cycle is the default way..
indigo rivet
I mean, if you create prorations and choose invoice_immediately when you update the Subscription, you can create a charge for the proration. But I have no idea if that's what you're asking about
open zephyr
Is it possible to charge the customer immediately after sub upgrade and if he doesn't pay the no upgrade? Same as on new subscription?
indigo rivet
No. The upgrade will still happen, but the Invoice will have status: "requires_payment_method" so you would then do whatever action you normally would when a payment fails
open zephyr
So you're saying I should check on my end not only the expiry date, but also the payment method in order to check if the subscription is active?
indigo rivet
No that's not what I said at all. I'm saying you would handle the failed payment like you handle your other failed payments
open zephyr
The key here is that the payment will be charged automatically like on sub renew... This I was thinking wrong.
indigo rivet
You said you were not going to have a Payment Method on file to charge automatically. So now you are?
open zephyr
Isn't that what Stripe do?
indigo rivet
Yup
open zephyr
Are you saying that I need to charge subscribers manually from my end on each billing cycle?
open zephyr
Thank god. You got me scared there
indigo rivet
The answers to these questions are readily available in our docs, and your questions are consistently ambiguous. You should already know how Payment Methods are handled before you ask about advanced billing scenarios. Please read our docs before asking additional questions. We cannot walk you through every single step of the process.
open zephyr
yeah