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calm bloomBOT Jan 20, 2023, 11:02 PM

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wind pasture Jan 20, 2023, 11:08 PM

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Hi, what do you mean by 'usage' here?

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:10 PM

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sorry I wasn't clear. I mean by usage any processing fees stripe may charge. I.E. card fees OR ACH fees OR <insert payment type fee here> + Invoicing volume fees.

In this case I would be using destination charges with on_behalf_of set to the Express connect account.

wind pasture Jan 20, 2023, 11:11 PM

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You can list your balance transactions here: https://stripe.com/docs/api/balance_transactions/list#balance_transaction_list-type and look at type, to see fees incurred.

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:12 PM

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so stripe_fee and stripe_fx_fee?

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I found the docs, I think: https://stripe.com/docs/reports/balance-transaction-types

Balance transaction types

Learn more about the different types of balance transactions that represent funds moving through your Stripe account.

wind pasture Jan 20, 2023, 11:14 PM

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It all depends on what you're specifically looking for but I'd start with that.

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:15 PM

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Well I didn't know balance transactions were a thing so that's a start 🤣

wind pasture Jan 20, 2023, 11:16 PM

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This document also covers who covers fees on what charge types: https://stripe.com/docs/connect/charges

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:16 PM

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But I'm looking for ones that are related to what I would call:

Payment method fees (2.99% + 30 cents per card OR the 0.5% up to some cap for ACH)
Volume fees (such as the 0.4-0.8% for Stripe Billing based on plan tier)

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:18 PM

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wind pasture This document also covers who covers fees on what charge types: https://stripe.c...

right, and since I'm using destination charges my platform account has the fees charged to them, which is what I desire. I just want to be able to account for it later when I bill the connected account. My use case doesn't make sense for Standard accounts with direct charges as the clients aren't experienced online sellers and don't need to make charges outside of our application.

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so stripe fee is listed as:

stripe_fee

Fees for Stripe software and services (e.g., for Radar, Connect, Billing, and Identity).

I'm not seeing one of these categories that I would lump into "payment method fees". Maybe I'm blind?

wind pasture Jan 20, 2023, 11:19 PM

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You can also look at Reports: https://stripe.com/docs/reports/balance and https://stripe.com/docs/reports/api. On reporting, if yo have further questions, I recommend that you reach out to Stripe Support. Our support team will be able to assist you better than I can: https://support.stripe.com/contact

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I do not have much expertise in reporting and the latter part of this conversation is becoming more of reporting type questions.

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:21 PM

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ok sounds good, thanks!

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FWIW I found the report, and it looks like the charge transaction type includes a fee, which is the transaction fee for that charge

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which appears to correspond to this field in the balance transaction object: https://stripe.com/docs/api/balance_transactions/object#balance_transaction_object-fee

Stripe API reference – The balance transaction object – curl

Complete reference documentation for the Stripe API. Includes code snippets and examples for our Python, Java, PHP, Node.js, Go, Ruby, and .NET libraries.

wind pasture Jan 20, 2023, 11:28 PM

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I thought you were looking for a further breakdown of fees (2.99% + 30 cents per card OR the 0.5% up to some cap for ACH). Sorry, I misread this.

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:29 PM

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I'm guessing there's no method to sort of summarize the information to something like:

"I want to know how much fees + stripe_fees I paid on behalf of Connected account X"

wind pasture Jan 20, 2023, 11:30 PM

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If you have Sigma, it might be possible: https://stripe.com/sigma. However, I'd still check with support to confirm

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:31 PM

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I'll look into that. The other option I was looking at was perhaps checking the list of balance transactions for the types I care about. On that topic:

Is there a way in test mode to force balance transactions in order to see what the data looks like from the API? I currently don't use Stripe Invoicing so I don't get any balance transactions today that are of type stripe_fee, and all our business is in the US so I also don't get any stripe_fx_fee. It would be useful to be able to see what they look like in test mode to understand how to process them.

wind pasture Jan 20, 2023, 11:39 PM

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I'd recommend that you make some test payment on your account. Let me see what comes up on my test account

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Yeah, it just shows the fee amount under fee

orchid folio Jan 20, 2023, 11:50 PM

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so if I make a test invoice on my account and pay it, I should also see the stripe_fee balance transaction for the use of Stripe Billing?

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