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dense skiffBOT Nov 22, 2022, 11:40 AM

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trail token Nov 22, 2022, 11:40 AM

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Can you share the pi_xxx ID you're using in that screenshot?

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 11:41 AM

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pi_3M6uaWAjORjIkyJ01m9mdbGs_secret_5RzhChaH2zAQ6yLiA5Dl9AonU

trail token Nov 22, 2022, 11:50 AM

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Ok, this is a direct charge created for acct_1JMYI1AjORjIkyJ0 by the controlling platform (acct_1Cbrx8FpU9DlKp7R). In this case, the platform is configured to control which PMs are available to the connected accounts. See: https://stripe.com/docs/connect/automatic-payment-methods?connect-payment-integration-type=payment&connect-charge-type=direct&connect-account-type=standard&on-behalf-of=false#allow-connected-accounts-manage

Upgrading to automatic payment methods

Increase conversion with automatic payment methods for existing platforms.

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You can control this behaviour on the Dashboard of the platform: https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/payment_methods/connected_accounts

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wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 11:52 AM

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Thanks @trail token let me check that things

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I have couple of doubts on payment element usage as well

Will it work for stripe invoice & stripe subscription api in same way?

trail token Nov 22, 2022, 11:55 AM

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Do you mean can you create a Subscription and use the Payment Element to confirm the initial payment (if due)?

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 11:56 AM

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Yes

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How can I make sure that if customer entered same card which already exists, then it won't create duplicate card entry

trail token Nov 22, 2022, 12:01 PM

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wicked walrus Yes

Yep, Payment Element supports subscription integrations: https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/build-subscriptions?ui=elements

Build a subscriptions integration

Create and manage subscriptions to accept recurring payments.

trail token Nov 22, 2022, 12:01 PM

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wicked walrus 2. How can I make sure that if customer entered same card which already exists, ...

We won't automatically de-duplicate cards so you would need to handle that yourself

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 12:02 PM

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@trail token I directly created pi_3M6v9MAjORjIkyJ004R9WC12_secret_PKnkePvWP8vl9Xe2YyvjTOeoQ new payment intent but it's not showing

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 12:05 PM

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trail token Yep, Payment Element supports subscription integrations: https://stripe.com/docs...

Looks like our use case totally different here..

We are listing recurring prices (from stripe) & onetime prices (from our system - it means we are not creating onetime price in stripe), so as per our current system, if customer selects recurring prices & onetime prices both in single order, we are creating subscription with additional onetime items without price ids & if customer selects only onetime prices, we are creating invoice

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Till now we are using Stripe Card Element to collect payment but now we are planning to use Stripe Payment Element to support more payment methods in our checkout

trail token Nov 22, 2022, 12:14 PM

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wicked walrus Looks like our use case totally different here.. We are listing recurring price...

Sure, that'll still work although your integration would change a little:

Create the subscription with the recurring price(s), and use the add_invoice_items parameter to add your one-time prices: https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/create#create_subscription-add_invoice_items

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They'll only appear on the initial invoice, and will be reflected on the initial Payment Intent generated by the invoice. Then you can just confirm the PI as normal with the Payment Element

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 12:16 PM

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Ok.. let me try that

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@trail token #1044577798750216242 message
Can you check this?

trail token Nov 22, 2022, 12:16 PM

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What am I checking?

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 12:23 PM

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I created new payment intent without connected account but still it's not showing

trail token Nov 22, 2022, 12:28 PM

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Which specifically are you expecting to see? I suspect its because of setup_future_usage param which a lot of PMs don't support: https://stripe.com/docs/payments/payment-methods/integration-options#additional-api-supportability

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wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 12:46 PM

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Yes.. make sense.. thank you!

trail token Nov 22, 2022, 12:46 PM

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np!

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 12:49 PM

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Our use case is save the payment method & charge in future. So which option will suitable for us? setup_future_usage or off_session ?

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& what's different between both?

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Because read - All other payment method types either don’t support setup_future_usage or only support off_session.

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 12:50 PM

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setup_future_usage is how you save a payment method during a payment

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so for example you use it on the first payment of a subscription, or the first PaymentIntent you create for a customer, so that the payment method they use during that payment gets saved to a Customer object for future usage.

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 1:32 PM

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Hey @pseudo bough

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 1:33 PM

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hello

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 1:34 PM

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Now as per use case, I'm trying to use Payment Intent element with multiple payment methods, how can pass automatic_payment_methods & setup_future_usage options in invoice api?

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 1:37 PM

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how can pass automatic_payment_methods
you can't, invoices don't use that feature unfortunately.

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 1:38 PM

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It means Stripe Payment Element won't work with Invoice API?

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 1:38 PM

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instead they use their own settings from https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/billing/invoice

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pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 1:38 PM

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wicked walrus It means Stripe Payment Element won't work with Invoice API?

it does work , it's just that the available payment methods are defined by the settings on that page linked above

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wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 1:39 PM

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But in my account, it's enabled... still it's not showing?

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& What about setup_future_usage ?

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How can I collect payment off session in future?

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 1:43 PM

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& setup_future_usage options in invoice api
you need to manually update the invoice.payment_intent to set that value on it, after finalizing the invoice

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https://stripe.com/docs/api/payment_intents/update?lang=node#update_payment_intent-setup_future_usage

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 1:44 PM

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Oh... it's really bad

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 1:44 PM

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wicked walrus But in my account, it's enabled... still it's not showing?

what about this? anything am I missing?

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 1:44 PM

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I agree! will raise the feedback

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 1:44 PM

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wicked walrus But in my account, it's enabled... still it's not showing?

can you share the invoice or PaymentIntent ID in question?

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 1:45 PM

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invoice id: in_1M6wmhAjORjIkyJ0blVxPsnv

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payment intent client secret: pi_3M6wmiAjORjIkyJ00n7LAymB_secret_hy8ZGSkK7m9VBuXtfbGr3BFMA

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 1:52 PM

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thanks looking

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so that invoice is in USD

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so most methods in your screenshot can't apply since they're EUR only. So it's really only payable with cards. Was there a method you were expecting to see?

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 1:59 PM

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ACH Credit Transfer

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WeChat Pay

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:03 PM

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wicked walrus ACH Credit Transfer

that can't apply since it's charge_automatically

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not sure about WeChat

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:06 PM

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I'm facing same issue + another issue in subscription api

Not able to find way to pass all payment methods which enabled
By default it's taking setup usage future enable, how can I change according us
In trail period recurring product, payment intent won't be created. So what to do in that case to show payment element?

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:06 PM

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pseudo bough not sure about WeChat

😄

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:07 PM

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it's the same invoice setting page mentioned above
why would you want to change it? you need to save the payment methods, since it's a subscription, that's why we default it to on for subscription invoices.
3 use the pending_setup_intent from the Subscription object, with confirmSetup instead.

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:10 PM

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but some how that's not working
Yes.. that totally make sense
Got it

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:10 PM

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some how that's not working
what does that mean exactly, what did you expect to see, where, and what did you see instead?

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:12 PM

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pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:12 PM

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as for Wechat, I checked and it's because it's only compatible with send_invoice, not charge_automatically (since it involves a redirect to a payment page)

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:14 PM

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but we don't want to send invoice through email

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:14 PM

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you don't have to then. Just means WeChat is not an option!

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:15 PM

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We want to charge through our checkout which is using Payment Element

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:15 PM

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cool, then you can do that just fine.

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I explained why other payment methods can't be used(you're charging in USD and most of the other methods are EUR only; and some payment methods are only applicable to the send_invoice mode). Cards are always an option.

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:22 PM

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pseudo bough that can't apply since it's charge_automatically

as mentioned, it's charge_automatically... that's ACH Credit Transfer option is not available..

But now I make collection method as send invoice.. but still it's not showing

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pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:22 PM

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the PaymentElement doesn't support ACH Credit

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:23 PM

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Oh... my god

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This is really really complex stuff... even as developer we are not able to get it... how our customer will able to understand 😄

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:24 PM

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I agree the one-time invoice integration has a lot of problems!

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:25 PM

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Now final question of today - will Google Pay & Apple Pay will work in all 3 API with Payment Element?

pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:25 PM

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yes

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:25 PM

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Payment Intent with setup usage future as well?

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Because if I pass collection method as send invoice, then I can not update payment intent for setup usage future

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pseudo bough Nov 22, 2022, 2:27 PM

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yep because send_invoice is not really meant to be used if you need to save the payment method, since every invoice will get sent to the customer for a one time payment individually

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in any case, yes Google/Apple Pay just work ,there's no issues there

wicked walrus Nov 22, 2022, 2:29 PM

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Ok.. thanks for support.. I really appreciate

Now it's my term to prepare POC document for us 😄

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