#MarcusStripe

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limpid folioBOT
vagrant furnace
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hi! our documentation on this is https://stripe.com/docs/connect/identity-verification-api#determining-if-identity-or-business-verification-is-needed

  1. you should get a webhook if the status changes(from unverified to verified)
  2. you'd create a new AccountLink and direct the user to it where they can enter/adjust any required information
  3. yes it can always move back to disabled. You need to listen to account.updated events and redirect the user back to AccountLinks when needed, the docs above describe the flow
alpine kestrel
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  1. ) status changes(from unverified to verified) - which event to listen to for this? account.updated too?
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  1. new, entirely new - or an update link - I see the api for that. Because, I'd assume, with an entire new link.. how would stripe know this is a related request???
vagrant furnace
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  1. yes
  2. entirely new. We know it's related because you have to pass the account ID acct_xxx of the connected account to create the link.
wheat turtle
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Hey, taking over here. Let me know if there's any follow-up Qs I can answer!

alpine kestrel
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Thanks. Still processing the info

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create account link to update missing data -
the fist time I create a link I use:
account_onboarding

Which status to use for later?
account_onboarding, account_update, custom_account_update, custom_account_verification?

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he Account object’s charges_enabled and payouts_enabled

I need the connect api to SEND money from m stripe account to my customers added through the connect api...
That is payouts, right?

wheat turtle
wheat turtle
alpine kestrel
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and so I can ignore if charges are enabled, or not, also right?

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Charges would be retrieving money from the same connected accounts, I assume

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Well I was told, I think by Karllekko, to create a new link with the account id if missing data must be added. The initial link I created I did with type: account_onboarding

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Now the questiom is, should I continue creating new links as account_onboarding? / When to use the other types?

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( account_update, custom_account_update, custom_account_verification)

queen thicket
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Hey, taking over here. Catching up

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Can you clarify the question for me?

alpine kestrel
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he Account object’s charges_enabled and payouts_enabled indicate whether the account can create charges and accept payouts.

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now my question:

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I need to SEND money to the connect accounts.

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SO I assume - question - do I only need to check "payouts_enabled" or is "charges_enabled" also of some relevance to me?

queen thicket
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Let me confirm

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Also, depends what you mean by sending money to the accounts. Purely within Stripe? Or to their external account?

alpine kestrel
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  1. Second question:
    If an account is not ready... it seems the customer has to submit more data. And I was told to create a new account link for that, with the account id of the customer so they can continue in the process.
    For the link - a) can I simply re-use the initial link?
    or b) create an entire new link... in case of b), which I assume - which link type to use?
    account_onboarding, account_update, custom_account_update, custom_account_verification?
queen thicket
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can I simply re-use the initial link?
No, they're enabled for one-time usage and expire if unused after a short period of time. You should implement a refresh_url which will create a new Account Link in those instances.

If the account still has onboarding/verification requirements, you'd use account_onboarding

queen thicket
alpine kestrel
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refresh_url - is that an api, or you mean I should implement such function on my end?

queen thicket
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But obviously those funds can't be paid out (to an external bank) until verified

alpine kestrel
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If the account still has onboarding/verification requirements, you'd use account_onboarding
how do I know?

queen thicket
alpine kestrel
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funds - I will now activate the account on my end until stripe tells me all is good.

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not activate

queen thicket
alpine kestrel
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how do I know - if the account still has onboarding/verification requirements,****

queen thicket
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Mostly the requirements hash

alpine kestrel
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In the stripe dashboard I see two status - enabled and complete. How do I get these from the api or the webhook?

queen thicket
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You can't. That label is computed from a bunch of fields on the Account object

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There's no 'status' field for an Account

alpine kestrel
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can you be more specific as " bunch of fields on the Account object".. because after reading the above document 2-3 times... I still dont know exactly.

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Further.. what mostly puzzles me atm - is it enough to - LISTEN to the account_updated webhook for this info -

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or should I actively retrieve the account to know its status?

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I see:
stripeAccount.getRequirements().getCurrentlyDue().isEmpty();
stripeAccount.getRequirements().getEventuallyDue().isEmpty();
stripeAccount.getRequirements().getPastDue().isEmpty();
would probably needed to know if all is fine.. but it seems for my own experiments.. that I did not get an account_updated event when I had direclty created a fully verified test account

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so it - SEEMS - i have to retrieve the account synchronously on my own?

queen thicket
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can you be more specific as " bunch of fields on the Account object".. because after reading the above document 2-3 times... I still dont know exactly.
I can't really explain it any better than the link I've shared does

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would probably needed to know if all is fine.. but it seems for my own experiments.. that I did not get an account_updated event when I had direclty created a fully verified test account
You'll get that event whenever there's a change to an Account object

alpine kestrel
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and a change.. is that from INITIAL state to VERIFIED also?

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then it is strange that I saw no event 😦

queen thicket
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It depends: you likely got various account.updated events during the hosted onboarding

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I'm not sure what the underlying ask is here, but I can help further if you can clarify the actual issue

sour shuttle
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👋 taking over for my colleague. Let me know if there's any follow-up Qs I can answer!

alpine kestrel
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Thanks Tarzan. Currently testing a new approach

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let me see

sour shuttle
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ok sure

alpine kestrel
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ok. So I can confirm, there is no event "account_updated" sent to me for a verified test account just created!

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acct_1LmzOHPH341ftKKI

sour shuttle
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what is the webhook endpoint id you're listening to?

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apparently you don't have a webhook endpoint to listen to Connect Account events

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that's why you're not getting the event

alpine kestrel
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oh!

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is that a special endpoint?

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I have just one endpoint, and it is configured to listen to:
account.updated
credit_note.created
customer.subscription.deleted
customer.subscription.trial_will_end
invoice.paid
invoice.payment_failed
payment_method.automatically_updated

sour shuttle
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this is an endpoint that only listens to your own events

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did you create the webhook endpoint through the dashboard or programmatically via the API?

alpine kestrel
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I added my endpoint to the dashboard

sour shuttle
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if you're using the dashboard you'd have to choose the Events on Connected Accounts as shown in this screenshot

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alpine kestrel
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let me check

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and... if I have not activated that.. why can I still listen to "account_update" without it?

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does it exist for the other events, too???

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I dont see such a page

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API version
2020-08-27

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maybe thats why??

sour shuttle
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yes account.updated would be fired on the current webhook endpoint whenever you have made any changes to your own account

alpine kestrel
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ah! my own account

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well thats pretty much useless, I guess ? 🙂

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Type - Account / Connect

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so it seems, from stripe, those endpoints are generallys separated

sour shuttle
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yes they are

alpine kestrel
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I have now set up an "Connect" endpoint.. and used the same url of my endpoint

sour shuttle
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this is why you need to create a new one

sour shuttle
alpine kestrel
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but .. that could be dangerous.. if you say that if my own account is updated, it would mean to call this as well?

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what are the general disadvantages / dangers / risks.. to better understand?

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maybe to be able to turn them off separatelt better?

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in case of fraud or whatever

sour shuttle
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you should always be able to separate the handling of Connect events and your own account events

alpine kestrel
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ok so for testing if generally it works now, I will keep it connected, then implement a separate endpoint.. it feels correct / better, yes

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we_1Lmzg4AfQ68zM8an1tbrfIwO

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so this is a CONNECT test endpoint now

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but still, it did not receive - anything

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Listening for
account.updated

sour shuttle
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if you're using Stripe CLI you can replay an event

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using this event id evt_1LmzPnPH341ftKKIQITncN7M

alpine kestrel
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What do you mean

tame acorn
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Hello 👋
Taking over as tarzan needs to step away

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I believe my colleague was suggesting resending an existing event to your endpoint to see if it is configured correctly to listen for account.updated

alpine kestrel
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well I have created a brand new event

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I mean a brand new connected account

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I created an extra connect endpoint

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but still.. the event is not processed and not send... looking a tthe dashboard

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so resending an event that was not sent.. wont help I guess!

tame acorn
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did you create the account in livemode or testmode?

alpine kestrel
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testmode

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acct_1LmzrEPOc89VN7bN

tame acorn
alpine kestrel
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that it failed on my end could be due to the different webhook key, I noticed

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but.. why do I not at least see a failed event in the dashboard?

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No such notification: 'evt_1LmztVPOc89VN7bNR5ZHICWK'

tame acorn
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That webhook event is generated at the account level, so your express account owns the object in this case.

alpine kestrel
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I dont understand

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Let me maybe re-phrase. I have created a new test webhook endpoint for the CONNECT api.

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I have configured it so that it listens to account_updated evetns from the connect api

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I have created an account with the connect api

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I expect that a account_updated event is send to this new webhook, and then shown in my test dashboard webhook UI as either FAILED or SUCCESS

tame acorn
alpine kestrel
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yes!!!!

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why? what ?

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?? confused!

tame acorn
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Were you checking under the events tab instead?

alpine kestrel
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no

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so you are saying you did not change anything?

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uhm.

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anyway.. I will now deploy a new endpoint with the new secret.. then they should be accepted also

tame acorn
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Yeah I didn't change anything, you were likely on the wrong page.

alpine kestrel
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I need sleep 😦

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thanks

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will take a break really

tame acorn
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NP! 🙂 Good luck
Have a good one