90wish - merge completed

[bold helm]

no v2 because

i got spooked

by faye

on standard

[severe canyon]

Its so over

[bold helm]

so I cant even do

3t rot

on her

even tho I have v1 sf

[severe canyon]

oh wtf

[real isle]

How is that even a thing

Mica coding is amazing

Thats kinda sad

Cause that means fire team does have 30% crit buff

But still struggles hard

I guess this is the only day I can record fire team

[gritty minnow]

I'm gonna be killing boss early from now on

[bold helm]

bruh

tomorrow is going be so much worse

gg

also it did feel strange vsk was missing crits while vector and qj critting all day

[rustic belfry]

dam she petty good at v0

[quartz saddle]

hmm

gunna try borrowing VSK and ditch HK416

[bold helm]

I think double borrow vsk might be the play instead of hk ngl

[quartz saddle]

seems like every other gunsmoke i get punished for my V0 klukai

[wide crypt]

now is your chance to v6 her

[bold helm]

you think hes going v6 hk when 45 is around the corner

[quartz saddle]

im all in for 45

even skipped vsk sadly

[bold helm]

what the

[quartz saddle]

il pick her in 3 banners

legit 27m into this and this is how far i am

108k lines

[severe canyon]

I'm broke for 45

[bold helm]

did you pull v0r1 vsk

I don't even have her sig

[undone light]

????

1m v0 wtf

[severe canyon]

i didnt even pull her at all

[bold helm]

Wait how'd you go broke then

[severe canyon]

from v6ing hk

[wide crypt]

this

[bold helm]

Wtf wewe went v6 hk

I thought we were v3 hk buddies

what happened

[severe canyon]

next will be v6 sf

maybe

[quartz saddle]

ahh my tl had an error

gotta try again

[bold helm]

ngl I want to v6 sf too but

defy and all the other teased chars

have priority

[livid fog]

damn is my qh the one everyone is using now lol

[cedar field]

Now makes sense why my VSK while having 65% crit were missing crits so fucking often

[cloud lichen]

kek

mica strikes again

[undone light]

my star chan....

[cloud lichen]

i want to see DP-12 now

[lavish dagger]

Really? But i feel dmg are less than last time

[real isle]

its natrually less

because altho u have 30% crit

u still lose 30% dmg

the crit is more signif

but ur still losing dmg%

let alone theres no good buff today anyw

[cloud lichen]

ergo a meme day today

[lavish dagger]

Fire team reign is over

[real isle]

after tmmrw yes

cause the crit is fixed tmmrw

turbid is technically doing worse atm

cause u dont have 30% crit

thats fixed tmmrw

vsk is just that strong in g.s

[bold helm]

bis in gb is just snows

put snows in the game

[lavish dagger]

Feel like her counter dmg is the same between v0 and v6

2 shots 50k dmg each

Is this the best V0 char ever?

[bold helm]

I mean

she's casually doing 1m at v0 for me

that's as much as a v2r1 wa with heavy pen buff

[lavish dagger]

[cloud lichen]

hey at least it's V0 kekw

feels like a bait before next banner a bit kekw

[lavish dagger]

Can't say it's bait when the kit is actually good

But it's a bit boring

The dog summon is just standing in 1 place

[cloud lichen]

bait as in a good doll before an an anticipated doll

[bold helm]

Does the dog even do anything else other than shoot out water every now and then lmao

[lavish dagger]

After the 1st turn s2s1, we do s2ult only to the rest

[bold helm]

like what is bro doing

[lavish dagger]

Activate counter dmg or something

[bold helm]

well it's pretty good bait then

If 45 is really next

[lavish dagger]

At least it's not a heavy dupe like Yoohee that's no where to use

[bold helm]

yeah I skipped k2, phys is still in the dumps so I'd rather not

[cloud lichen]

Yoohee will shine when AK15 releases. I believe.

[bold helm]

surely fire team isn't that bad

tomorrow

[cloud lichen]

lmfao

[real isle]

i have to hold like 3 turns

this is cursed

team comps

[cloud lichen]

andoris

huh

[bold helm]

whel

[real isle]

its better than centau

andoris is objectively way better

[bold helm]

if no fire tmrw what are you going use

[real isle]

for shark non peri teams

[bold helm]

well I'm still going use fire

[summer dew]

another sharky believer

snows my goat

[real isle]

I had to hold one round or so with fire

[real isle]

so i think with andoris u could kill

but yk

lack of crit tmmrw

prob not

lol

[bold helm]

Double borrow vsk

trust

Its the plan

[summer dew]

snows how well did that sharky perform

[cloud lichen]

||the funniest thing is that I didn't even notice my sharky doesn't have every key unlocked lol||
i realized when i tried to unlock her expansion key

[lavish dagger]

Suffering from success

[real isle]

https://youtu.be/89AwnbdHTS8?si=0XedpH9jw1Rrw2mN

woops

thats supposed to be a 3

[summer dew]

big sharky damage

[lavish dagger]

New Sharkry is better now?

[quartz saddle]

so it turns out the game has a precise length for each line of text in the game and if u go below or above that the game breaks.

but i figured out how to change the text

one step closer

i just need to figure out how they calculate the length and then edit it to be the new line length

[cloud lichen]

Sfield

[quartz saddle]

yeah im trying to make an EN patch

[cloud lichen]

ur editing the EN table into CN huh

[quartz saddle]

something like that yeah

[cloud lichen]

kek, keep us posted
pretty cool that it works like that

[real isle]

https://youtu.be/TRn875sT-2Y?si=MuXyIUv5TpUWER1K

[viral hill]

wait today's buff sucks ass

[arctic topaz]

nice starfield

[shrewd vine]

uweh

i can't do more

v3 cluck moment

[lavish dagger]

Tll v6?

[shrewd vine]

v5r4 yea

[lavish dagger]

Still TLL losing to Nikketa is weird

[shrewd vine]

maybe my tololo sucks

[severe canyon]

I mean its not anything surprising

Calcs in theorycraft say shes basically hydro qh

[lavish dagger]

Sorry, i should say lose that much dmg

Of course tll will lose

[shrewd vine]

wtf my qiuhua died

this never happened before

[lavish dagger]

Should not happen

The bear doesn't deal that much dmg

[shrewd vine]

yeah...

can't do more

[quartz saddle]

Leva or Levva?

[empty timber]

Ult buff not worth?

[brave oyster]

Hmm

Maybe i will borrow Nikketa V6 in tmr

[timid lintel]

I'll do my second run later today

[mental oxide]

I dunno why I tried to aim for this achievement but I did it

ironically this is the last achievement before I get her bunny suit

[quartz saddle]

nice

[bold helm]

ooo

lowkey

@severe canyon slave away for botzu

translate all the text

[severe canyon]

when slave away for me instead

[quartz saddle]

ahh i slept in too long time to do my daily hits

[devout berry]

this is super nice

am down if you need a tester or smth

[bold helm]

get in line megane

[devout berry]

but ofc

[quartz saddle]

thx will definitely post it when its ready

i feel like im doin something wrong i keep losing buffs on tololo with water team

[rotund stratus]

first time killing this boss didn't know you had to wait

also nikketa op

do you need to apply springfield buff to nikketa or is it not necessary?

springfield's skill 3

[devout berry]

its normal cause she takes alot of turns

[devout berry]

have to cast it to maintain the 70% dmg buff

[bold helm]

[real isle]

missing hits:
1
@timid lintel
2
@harsh timber @summer rune @timber mesa

[timber mesa]

Damn, forgot it started today. I'm at work

[real isle]

k

lol

[bold helm]

@real isle

should I double borrow vsk

and use v3 hk

for corrosion turbid

[real isle]

id say yes imo

[bold helm]

ok

If I had v6 hk it would be perfect

[real isle]

but i mean using wa + dush mod is fine too somewhere

[bold helm]

but I'm not pulling v6 hk

[bold helm]

No dush

only wa fill

[real isle]

@quartz saddle i have to go to work do you mind filling the sheet today

[quartz saddle]

ok

[real isle]

ty

[bold helm]

what about me

[real isle]

if u wanna track 90wish scores be my guest

send me ur email

[timid lintel]

Done 🔥

[real isle]

ty

in my qq chat

theres a mait?

[quartz saddle]

yep early maint for 1h

[real isle]

lol

well

[quartz saddle]

hope everyone did their hits

[real isle]

@harsh timber rip

think kirou + nic is gonna miss

plus archii + 20th

[summer rune]

got jumpscared mid run]

[proud flame]

Our ranking before Xenaca hits were 77

I guess around 75 now

[bold helm]

[quartz saddle]

Day 1

[bold helm]

4 people missed

[rotund stratus]

looking at retempest video why did he say that v0 Nikketa needs to reuse skill 2 multiple times throughout the run?

i don't understand

[wide crypt]

wait, how do you read that

s2 as in the summoning?

[rotund stratus]

yeah

he's saying for v0 the optimal skill cycles is s2, then s3+ult rinse and repeat

which I don't understand why

[cedar field]

Cose thats the only way to play VSK on V0

[devout berry]

still possible to kill with fire team btw

for whatever reason

[bold helm]

need crit fishing

[bold helm]

im going lose my shit

[quartz saddle]

[proud flame]

Lvl 32 Dispatch room day

4 more lvls till max

Tho they really need to expand more levels

[lavish dagger]

How to get more upgrade mat?

[proud flame]

Dispatch at least 5 times a week, new doll

[lavish dagger]

I do it everyday

[proud flame]

thats only 2 source of mats income

[lavish dagger]

Still 29/30 for my lv 31

[proud flame]

u missed

the last reward of a week

should be 29 + 4/30 which is the same as my pic

[lavish dagger]

Wtf how

[proud flame]

Anyone who didnt miss should be lvl 32, 3/30

[cedar field]

Have to wait about 15 more hours for it

[proud flame]

u forgot a day this week didnt u

last reward is on Friday

[cedar field]

Opened it late on monday

[cloud lichen]

i hit 30 now kek

[livid fog]

vanguard damage buff at lv32 dorm is nice

even my trashy qj can now hit 3500 atk

[quartz saddle]

rip i need another week cuz i didnt get nekkita

[devout berry]

lvl 27 pleb over here

[cursive herald]

Since one of our guild memeber got banned from the server

Daily guildwar ping is a little bit awkward now

[real isle]

who?

lol

[undone light]

[proud flame]

mhd

[real isle]

oh

thats not suprising

LOL

[proud flame]

Tho u can ping him in Dollistan for missing hits

[bold helm]

Bro what happened

LMAO

[quartz saddle]

wait... for real?

[pure swallow]

[real isle]

missing hits
@neat geyser @manic dirge @harsh timber @summer rune

[neat geyser]

im doing rn

[summer rune]

done

wtf am i doing wrong in fire team what the hell

[harsh timber]

3 runs done

[real isle]

every1 hit ty

o forgot to add nics third hit

[bold helm]

Wtf lmao

We have trend graphs now

[devout berry]

you guys think Faye dupe could potentialy be better than Mosin dupe or nah?

[rotund stratus]

I think so cause electric team is overall pretty weak, and they are prob going to relase a physical hypercarry sometime soon

[quartz saddle]

I dont think Faye dupes are better than Mosin

but if you are going phys team her gun would be nice

and a couple of her early dupes are good

[devout berry]

but we literally gonna get super omega giga electric hypercarry next month with 45

[brave oyster]

Hmm if i have Nikketa V6 along with Springfield V6 in this team maybe i will able to kill guild boss

[severe canyon]

wait why mhd got banned?

[bold helm]

check lunasia

just search up ass

in guild chat

[molten thorn]

[rotund stratus]

@mental oxide sorry for ping but your 416 has wrong key

fix please 🥺

[bold helm]

use yunaris

[timid lintel]

Hey guys, where do you get the vector skin?

[winged sleet]

2.4k medals in the new shop

[timid lintel]

Thx!

[livid fog]

so sad the guild war is happening while im on vacation so limited internet 🤣

have some downtime today so should be able to get 2 kills

FML i forgot that if he dies early you dont get max score

borrow nikketa team manages a kill in ~4 turns for me using v6 spring/tll/hk/peritya

I skipped a couple turns and the springfield bird killed him turn 6 😢

need to drop the feedback next survey to say if you kill boss before end turn it should just automatically give you max points

[quartz saddle]

uhh oh

mistakes may have been made

[severe canyon]

[undone light]

[wide crypt]

you managed to slip tooltips text and story dialogue into one place, amazing

[arctic topaz]

[mental oxide]

is this how chinese feels for people who can't read chinese?

[quartz saddle]

Issue is that I can't seem to edit the length of the text so I can use en text when they are the same length.

At least haven't figured out how to do it yet

[brave oyster]

Lmao did you switched the lang file

[quartz saddle]

lol yes

[neat geyser]

Prob some silly reason, considering some of the rules of this server, but welp it happens

[gritty minnow]

will hit late

[quartz saddle]

all i can do is change small stuff for now

[harsh timber]

3 hits done

[real isle]

missing hits @ rex @empty timber @stable forge @summer rune @timber mesa

[empty timber]

yeah im working on it atm

[empty timber]

double keeling

[real isle]

[harsh timber]

[bold helm]

what in the whel

[real isle]

every1 hit today ty

[empty timber]

me near the top of the board when I not auto kek

[visual flare]

https://gf2-bbs.exiliumgf.com/share?id=57777

peak Klukai

[real isle]

Still misses 50%, crits

[quartz saddle]

So anyone else get this really weird lag on the main screen since last patch?

[undone light]

is fcc bugged ?

i have this on kluk but gb stats show 59% cr

[quartz saddle]

this team was so much easier to clear with than full fire team

[arctic topaz]

feel fire team suffer so much. Qj can't crit in this season at all

[quartz saddle]

you can get her crit rate up pretty high

up to 80% with no extra crit from shared keys

[hasty galleon]

[quartz saddle]

im saving all my gold chips for next patch letsu goo

[undone light]

70% CR ? lol you get 10% proc, eat crap

[bold helm]

rex when you see this, can you swap your k2 support to qh

[stable forge]

im hitting at 3:30 am

[quartz saddle]

[harsh timber]

yea this season is shit

already suffer klukai no crit

now it applies to QJ too

[gritty minnow]

Done

[bold helm]

ok thanks

[livid fog]

it's pretty rough

K2 still lacking a DPS hypercarry

[mental oxide]

just wait for AN+AK

[undone light]

[empty timber]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[devout berry]

anyone got link to CN wiki

[cedar field]

https://gf2.mcc.wiki/doll

[devout berry]

danke

[real isle]

missing hits
1: @hasty galleon
2: @neat geyser @harsh timber @winged sleet @summer rune

[winged sleet]

ye just woke up

ill hit in 30 mins

[neat geyser]

Same

[hasty galleon]

Done

[winged sleet]

done

[harsh timber]

3 hits done

[summer rune]

how many seasons until they change this stupid bear?

https://tenor.com/view/i-hope-you-die-in-a-fire-gif-23808628

[lavish dagger]

maybe 2 or 3

[pure swallow]

can't wait for them to remove this bear and his fucking shield

[wide crypt]

only for them to replace it with something worse?

[pure swallow]

at least it would be something new with the potential of being fun

not being able to break that fucking shield is such a shitty feeling

since they added this boss i'm not looking forward to daily hits, they are just chores now, might as well auto them

[rotund stratus]

yeah on the lower spectrum not breaking the shield feels ass and on the upper spectrum killing too fast so you miss the final shield is also bad, this boss just feels way too nuanced

[harsh timber]

You can ditch LyraS name now, I changed my in-game name yesterday already

[bold helm]

might be an unpopular opinion but I do like this boss

plant can go to hell

[winged sleet]

me, just wanting to go back to the tank:

[quartz saddle]

the bear isnt so bad. They could definitely make it much worse.

like bluesphere

[wide crypt]

or koshmar

deny off ele teams

[jagged pond]

Translation patch for just basic UI would be a godsend

[summer rune]

We had it 2 times, but on the second time they accidentally revealed aphelion translation of part 1 and they removed the files

I'm not sure if we ever found the correct file that came on the update or if they changed the IDs on CN for it to not work anymore, if you do it now the translation will all be random sentences

[quartz saddle]

yep

[quartz saddle]

this is the problem, i noticed they changed the text references ea patch and thats how I ended up with this before. #1268897467412254821 message

the problem with making a translation patch for the UI is that you have a set length for ea string, and chinese is shorter than english so I would only be able to set a few things.

at least until i figure out how to change the line length without breaking things

[wide crypt]

isn't 1 chinese character worth 2 roman characters

[quartz saddle]

somewhat, the line length is based on bytes so for this line:

对。that counts as six characters

Some lines are longer in EN some are longer in CN. If the line is longer in CN i can replace it with padding, but i can't replace it if the EN line is longer. some lines for example :

隐藏 is 6 and EN replacement is Hide which is 4

显示 is 6 and EN replacement is Display which is 7

[wide crypt]

how about show or view

[quartz saddle]

sure I can change it to that, but the number of lines is about 180k so going through and finding shorter sentences would be a pain

[jagged pond]

That sound like a mess... I'm gonna start asking for EN TL option in surveys from now on lmao

And if we are doomed, is there an easy way to list those sentences on a excel or something? So all who are interested on helping u out can chip in?

[quartz saddle]

i alreayd have it in excel

lemme seee

[wide crypt]

wait you're translating each line manually?

[quartz saddle]

this is a bit old tho

no

the power of google translate

google sheets has an integration with google translate so i use that and it translates the whole thing

then i was gunna use the en data to fix what they had

which was up to aphelion

[jagged pond]

that approach (google tl) has the "lenght" problem tho, no?

[quartz saddle]

lemme upload the newest version real quick where I have the byte lengths

[quartz saddle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a2GjjlBHIHgmcoux2PegdtnF88BjUZNAezp6I1x7xU0/edit?usp=sharing here is a newer copy.

[jagged pond]

damn, he's good

the way I see it, for mental sanity's sake, there has to be a focus; say its just UI for now (characters names, skills info, enemies info, ui leadings, etc)

[quartz saddle]

ah yeah

[jagged pond]

Then the work flow would be like:

-Identify which lines are for said UI
-Make the bytes match for EN & CN strings for said lines
-Trial and error

[quartz saddle]

I was thinking about sorting this by the lines that are shorter in EN than CN and trying to just mass replace those first

Also, I found out the formula that they used to calculate the line length too. You take the last byte before the text and find the decimal value of it.

so \x06 = 6 \xFF = 255

but changing it breaks something

probably theres somewhere they set the length of the whole file

[jagged pond]

if u are able to figure that out, it would be awesome

can I make a copy of the table so I can mess with it?

[quartz saddle]

sure

if u can fix any of the EN text would be great

[bold helm]

[harsh timber]

3 hits done\

[real isle]

missing 1:
@ fubar @hasty galleon @timber mesa @timid lintel
2:
@ sylvia @summer rune

[livid fog]

bear is ok, they just need to actually let you kill early for max points if you have a good enough team

needing to skip like 3 turns is so stupid

[harsh timber]

wower

[hasty galleon]

Already done mine before reset

[empty timber]

i was doing it in a radiation zone while juggling paperwork at the same time

[real isle]

kinda close

[brave oyster]

This is mine point lol almost able to kill it if it didn't spawn the shield at last turn

[mental oxide]

i think it is the exact opposite since there is 4 bars left on enemy turn 6, meaning he got dangerously close to killing it early, prevent him from full points

[brave oyster]

Oh

[brave oyster]

@gritty minnow can you put your Yoohee back i'm need her to do my 2nd run

[arctic topaz]

what is the stop gap for mechty ?

[viral hill]

tololo

well one less acid member meaning you have a neat package of 2 ready to be mixed into other teams

anyone from fire/water with good damage will replace Mechty just fine

[devout berry]

they'll also add gold chip to BP, surely

[quartz saddle]

surely next BP will have gold chips

i believe

[gritty minnow]

Many requests to take things up and down

I guess I take down my spring since others also have it

yz wants me to talk about klukai's dupe breakpoints. is it 0 and 6?

I went straight to 6 on her and can't even see what her original tooltip looks like anymore

[quartz saddle]

wait did something happen with your niketta for some reason im doing like 1/2 the dmg with her

[lavish dagger]

Imagine anything but 6

I used 3 for awhile and it's not funny for Gunsmoke

[gritty minnow]

whats the changes for 3 vs 0

could she always bike twice at 0?

[cedar field]

V0 as bare minimum and fit mostly for aoe
V1 is much stronger with aoe, still not suitable for single target

V3 is when she bikes 2 times on bosses and apply def down, this makes her good dps for current global and decent dps for china server but only decent.

V6 you know

Ceia had V3 and V6 compare on his twitter

[gritty minnow]

yeah because I said 3 is the next stop point if you cant afford 6 and then wait for rerun to make 6 after

but people kept saying 0 or 6 no in between

[cedar field]

This is correct

V3 is usable as sub dps if you have stronger units in the future with aim to make her V6

But V3 is no huge carry like 6, no much synergy with Peritia too

[gritty minnow]

6 is where she explodes 3 times per bike for peritya right

[cedar field]

Correct

6 is also bike travel wide expands
6 is where her aoe area expands, the explosions after the bike travels

[gritty minnow]

yeah and ignore cover def

[cedar field]

Ye, but on that level its more of a nice qol, if a pack of units got hit with a corner of her bike ride they are dead as fuck

And all guild bosses has no cover at all

[gritty minnow]

ok so it's alright to say 0 for f2p, and aim for 6 for spender, but stop at 3 first if broke right

[wide crypt]

cuz ppl only care about guild war
and v3 feels like a cope there

[gritty minnow]

isnt 3 already good for gw since you get 2 bikes against boss

[cedar field]

Recharge issue

You cant combo its as good with Peritia as Kluk does 3 instances of damage per turn instead of 7 like on V6

[gritty minnow]

ok then I'll add the context of gw for jumping to 6

[cedar field]

So you bound to have holes in your bike rotation unless you can recharge her more, for example with QJ+Sharkry combo

Tho even if V3 Klukay will bike only each second turn, she will definately do bigger damage than Nemesis in terms of sub dps to apply def down 2

So for people who play 3 hits its still a good thing

As for GW, well, you usually borrow V6 kluck if any reachable ye

[gritty minnow]

okay

so not wrong to say 0/3/6

since I got a lot of people saying just 0/6 because of ceia's post

[cedar field]

So V3 is a mid road stop point to get V6

There is no much reason to get V3 and stop, thats for sure

[gritty minnow]

yeah

3 is to work towards 6 and not stop

[cedar field]

Ye, so its 0/6 but nice pit stop in between if you actually aim to get huge numbers with her

Cose holy shit, it was 1.5 year and she is still kicking

[mental oxide]

are you talking about 416 on EN?

[gritty minnow]

yeah

I need to make a video for mica

[mental oxide]

yeah 0,3,6

but I don't get why V0 tho

[gritty minnow]

f2p collect

[cedar field]

Ye, just to have Kluk ass on main menu

[mental oxide]

well true

[cedar field]

Just dont tell them this happened with V6 Kluk and V0 Nikke

Oops wrong one

[undone light]

damn kluk is worthless now

[cedar field]

Dont tell EN lets, we need those funds for new content

Op af whale or brick

[wide crypt]

nah too late
it's already circulating

saw some on twit and leddit

[cedar field]

Ceia damaging Mica funds with being too honest, time to pay him a visit

[quartz saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175701836716580975/1311575563328032838/lENEI5y.gif

[arctic topaz]

they will see it, surely

[gritty minnow]

she's honestly still good as all occasion dps

especially since elements arent complete yet and shes the filler

[cedar field]

Same team with more corro units overkilled the boss so Klukay is still relevant for sure

Its just for funny

[neat geyser]

No tll+nikketa?

[cedar field]

Im doing 3 runs, its better to separate them

[neat geyser]

I thought that was the way to go... Oops

Ah ok

Makes sense

[lavish dagger]

Still best unit to clear Frontier Surge for the 1st time

Mica maybe wants to revamp it once more or what because it is still not released in EN

[cedar field]

I dunno, Tarkov is easy ah even on day 1

After some time you will get SMG perk to one shot bosses and thats total GG for whole mode

[harsh timber]

you

cant escape

[severe canyon]

I'm not hearing any of this lalala

[mental oxide]

I overkilled again boss

I hate this bear seriosly

[brave oyster]

Lmao

[harsh timber]

oh shit

when did they add this

[mental oxide]

??

they added it a while ago

[harsh timber]

o i guess i never paid attention

man i hate this guy

[mental oxide]

since season 20 iirc

its season 31 my dude

[brave oyster]

Correctly is Vector patch

[harsh timber]

[brave oyster]

This is the momment before i kill it at Frenzy 22

[quartz saddle]

really wish they expanded tarkov its my favorite mode

[cedar field]

True, its fun

[wide crypt]

add escape mode with enemies actively chasing you

[mental oxide]

season 21*

[harsh timber]

3 hits done

first kill of this season with this pig

[stable forge]

@real isle

cant hit 2nd id

still working

[neat geyser]

I almost killed it 2 times XD

man IM so close

[stable forge]

pro

u re my hero now

[cedar field]

best I could this gw

[neat geyser]

I think what I miss is dorm level

my attachments are as good as I can do now... I dont think its that

or i fucked up rotation

[cedar field]

Depends on what are you using

[bold helm]

Can't be worse than Ceias

Level 20 dorm lol

[real isle]

Ok

[neat geyser]

then Im prob fucking up rotation somehow

or my attachments are actually dog shit despite the bars being closer to max

bc ceia could kill the boss iirc

[bold helm]

What are your teams?

[neat geyser]

v0 vsk with samosek, v3w1 spring, v6w1 tll, v4w1 peritya and a borrow HK thats v6w5 iirc?

5980 something last score

its rotation I bet

thought I did everythign right

[bold helm]

I think it's a rotation issue then because I can kill with triple corro v1 sf + v0 vsk on wa sig

[neat geyser]

do you collect the boxes when it spawns or 1 turn after?

[bold helm]

depends

[neat geyser]

I tried 1 turn after or just as it spawns and I got very similar score..

[bold helm]

I usually collect box on spawn but sometimes I leave a box

to collect on next turn when shield is down

[neat geyser]

mhmhm

well last day in a few hours so I will try again

[real isle]

are u missing today @summer rune

[neat geyser]

fire team gets 5700, v5w1 qj, v1 vector, v0 reissi, v6 shark with planeta and borrow v6w5 qiuhua

at least it got that today

but I haven't farmed a good burn set for shark yet, still using the phase strike one

so its prob that

[bold helm]

ooo

If you have andoris

id actually replace reissi there for her

[neat geyser]

really?

[bold helm]

yes

[neat geyser]

bc qj gets more follow ups?

[bold helm]

yeah since you're using sharkry over peri/wa there

qj is missing a few support attacks

[neat geyser]

hmm

I didn't try using wa.. true

maybe I should have

peri is v0 so I forget her

but how do I get the crit buffs? with andoris ult?

[bold helm]

yes

qh also has self cleanse as well

[neat geyser]

every turn 3?

[summer rune]

No, gonna do as soon as I come home

[real isle]

ok

[neat geyser]

I might try but my andoris is not that good

but ig she doesnt really do damage anyway

or I could try putting wa in place of shark

I wonder whats better...

my wa is v3w1

[bold helm]

Lemme send you a recording of my fire run

I nearly overkilled

lol

[neat geyser]

how similar is your team to mine?

[real isle]

only other missing is @timber mesa

wont keep track tmmrw

just rmbr ends early yada yada

hit if u can

[neat geyser]

[devout berry]

time to pre farm electric set for SMG like a true sigma

[timber mesa]

Sorry, work

I need to get myself out of this place irl

[summer rune]

how tf is the fire team rotation in this supposed to work, im feeling like a dumb monkey seeing 5k on my turbid team but 3k on burn

i can never break the shield of this mf

[neat geyser]

same thing with reissi from what I saw

[summer rune]

yeah but what is the rotation tho

im sure my fire team isnt THAT SHIT

[neat geyser]

use qj ult first then andoris

then use the rest

I think

one moment

dm

[rotund stratus]

have you been dispelling the buff the boss get when he does the shield?

[neat geyser]

wait a moment

did I miss a day??

I don't think I missed 2 battles per day wtf

[real isle]

most likely on that day u hit super last second

and i didnt record it until the following day

cause ur total hits and score is correct

for 2 hits a day

[neat geyser]

ahhh ok

makes sense then

there was a day I finished 10 minutes before reset

[summer rune]

my vector key was wrong

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1322453924606902343/1347708954867794003/DontOpen.gif

[wide crypt]

otsu

[neat geyser]

[summer rune]

i feel unbelievably stupid

[mental oxide]

why, you could win with this

[timber mesa]

@mental oxide How do you collect the weapon boxes and store them without having to open them when collecting?

The boxes just entered my mail but I'm being forced to choose an item

[mental oxide]

you mean the non bp, whale boxes that gives you a gold sig?

I dunno, I bought it and they dont come in the mail iirc

[summer rune]

I have been doing 3k with fire team all season

[wide crypt]

is it stat issue

[mental oxide]

how did yo manage to get so low then?

[summer rune]

Wrong vector key

[mental oxide]

wait you didn't use team presets?

[summer rune]

I used and that was the problem

My preset wasn't using the cleanse key

[mental oxide]

huh, then how did you get 6k on the first few days?

[summer rune]

I didn't

My best was 5.1k

With turbid team

The best I got with fire until yesterday was 4.0

[summer rune]

Which I'm still not sure how, probably the fire buff was too good

Other than that my burn team was just hitting 3-3.6k at best

[winged sleet]

the presets work now?

[cedar field]

Wdym now?

They worked since day 1

[winged sleet]

there was a big uproar in the forum when it released because it didnt save properly or something

and broke peoples teams

[mental oxide]

I think people just didnt use it properly

[cedar field]

Worked perfectly for me

Literally best qol ever

[mental oxide]

I tend to use the presets on gw only, and put the normal loadouts on dolls

the reason my 416 had the wrong key for gw is because I use 416 for the guild daily also

and 3 tile width is a bit awkward to use

[winged sleet]

this is a great thing to learn about exactly after gunsmoke

[quartz saddle]

better do the gunsmoke now b4 i forgetti

my current savings for 45 so about 370 pulls in all?

[mental oxide]

374 to be exact

379 if you count the monthly tickets

[quartz saddle]

i have pity on limited banner so i think i have a decent chance of getting V3+

if i also include using all the pulls il get back

[mental oxide]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1314540572509470720/1314544062824452157/R1.png?ex=67d2b80f&is=67d1668f&hm=d8c4d29e377f7e6891122907c2b138868f54d5b64fa5fbba5ee720b6995d113a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2450&height=1146

[blazing geyser]

v6r6

[mental oxide]

90% of V2, ~50-70% of V3, assume you also get her sig

[quartz saddle]

what percent of pulls do you get back in dorito chips?

[mental oxide]

oh forgot to calculate that part

quite a bit

its like 10 pulls per 50 or so

[quartz saddle]

so somewhere around the expected no for v4

i just gotta believe in the heart of the cards

||and maybe whale a bit||

[mental oxide]

well you know full well you are making this too complicated

https://tenor.com/view/lpbank-credit-card-card-animation-rotation-gif-18274263903803752554

just do it

[quartz saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613870611554631683/1341127456589086820/ezgif-1ca6a0b26ef161.gif

oh gad i wasnt paying attention and almost overkilled the boss

if i get to v5 il whale the last one

[harsh timber]

missing the kill again

god dammit QJ pls CRT more

[severe canyon]

I accidentally killed the boss on t6 today zzz

[harsh timber]

run done

time to take pills and back to senior bed

🛌

[mental oxide]

now that's a proper run

[quartz saddle]

woah

[gritty minnow]

autoing today

5920 on auto is crazy

[lavish dagger]

a bit of sleepy and killed it on turn 6

[bold helm]

Gb is over, no more content

@real isle fast forward 2 weeks pls

[lavish dagger]

go to cryosleep

[quartz saddle]

i wanna see that summer patch

with all the new contents

[devout berry]

a stream would be nice

[quartz saddle]

ugh i need 1 more peice of electric set

but it wont drop

been farming for weeks now

[devout berry]

for SMG?

[rotund stratus]

this got me hyped up for a second

thought we were getting jefuty

but nope

[quartz saddle]

ah for yal that got everyone max dorm lvl do you skip the dorm gifts in events now?

thinking of skipping it to buy more materials

[real isle]

Uhhhh you can if you want yea

We get too much gifts

I'm Skipping rn

Cause I do dorm gacha

[neat geyser]

meanwhile me hoping for more gifts actually XDDD

bc im still not maxed and I got everything already

[proud flame]

Hope they add this hover tank as a boss in GFL2

Tho not sure if URNC is technically advanced enough to make it in GFL2

[proud flame]

Klukai skin gonna be customizable like Yoohee

[real isle]

paying money to make it look worse

[undone light]

[winged sleet]

tbh as a military hardware enjoyer i dont really like how unrealistic materiel looks in this series

a ww2 medium stands a decent chance against this monstrosity

[proud flame]

pretty sure it cant pierce Khors force field

but when the force field is down, prolly the tank can be taken down

[winged sleet]

if its like gfl1 forcefields which are literally canonically penned by atgms, then aphe/heat muni from that era stands a chance

AT4 fires a heat warhead which is in service in tanks by mid/late war

depending on how far the forcefield is projected, penetration might cause damage to the vehicle itself

[proud flame]

Yeah its like GFL1 forcefields

[winged sleet]

we dont have specs like equivalent steel thickness so we cant actually run the maths but i would say it seems pretty plausable

if only antartic union invested into ERA and APS systems

[quartz saddle]

this is from en?

[proud flame]

yeah

[quartz saddle]

i never saw anything about klukai outfit being customizable before in cn

they getting noos before us?

[cedar field]

Gotta shill this skin on global harder while the oven is hot

Good strategy

[proud flame]

No, both will get the same time

The pic is just a preview

And wont be implemented in EN Aphelion

[quartz saddle]

ah

[cursive herald]

Force field is a funny thing bc they don't explain how the field would hold up by itself

Like steel and other materials is quite strong bc they have funny molecular bonds and orientation

I imagine it should work like ERA or something that will trigger an explosive on impact then energy field will burn or absorb smaller projectiles or smaller materials from the blast

[winged sleet]

well its not like they can come up with an actual scientific explaination for scifi

now you got me imagining forcefields that respect momentum transfer and when they get hit they bounce back and flatten their host

[cursive herald]

At least an explanation for the macro mechanic

[winged sleet]

they would have to conjure some bullshit 5th force or something

[cursive herald]

Letting aside the logistics of setting up a force field

Like how can they project anything out of a box

To a half sphere

Or any particular shape

[winged sleet]

how do force field shapes even work

can you tunnel under them?

how does it know what is ground?

[cursive herald]

At best I say force field should be like a tube funneling things in front

Or any single direction

It must be stable. And cannot exert too much heat or energy

That and leaving out the question of how those things would concentrate to any location. And what happens between the projector and the shielded part

[winged sleet]

my best shot would be something like a neutrino(?) projector

when the particle decays it exerts some sort of force

if the decay is deterministic instead of halflife based then a forcefield would be possible

this would explain how they can be concentrated and what happens between the projector and the shield

call it some bullshit supersymmetric neutrino or something

[cursive herald]

There should be different philosophies of making that type of shield

If the shield is a bunch of funny particles. Then they need some way to reliably trigger that reaction in an adequate amount

Ideally by electricity

The funniest thing is some settings make the shield composed of smaller hexagons

But how

[winged sleet]

well thats why i proposed deterministic particle decay

i do remember seeing papers on subatomic particles that decay in set time, dont remember where though

[cursive herald]

[cursive herald]

Don't let your infantry go near that fun stuff

[winged sleet]

the real life stuff is baryonic matter though so no force field shenanegans

[cursive herald]

But that is

I think

Far from a lot of settings

We now propose a mechanic related to particles and matters

[winged sleet]

yeah this stuff only happens in particle colliders rn

[cursive herald]

Instead of the usual condensed energy that do something

[winged sleet]

well theres a reason its fiction

[winged sleet]

brother matter is literally condensed energy

the einstein equation that people who dont know anything about science keeps throwing around

[cursive herald]

I mean. Energy must come from something

So I get it

Otherwise it would fizzle out to the environment

[winged sleet]

thats... exactly what we want a force field to do?

oh i see what you mean

you want the force field to contain energy instead of project it

[cursive herald]

Something that. Ahem. When a projectile hits. The stored energy will act as a barrier (like any materials) then different particles would then be summoned or gathered to that location to make a temporary very short duration physical shield that will absorb the force. Stopping anything inside the warhead from a distance

The shape of the field is. Questionable in that aspect

[winged sleet]

this approach is vulnerable to lasers and any electromagnetic based attacks

its better to be emitting energy at all times to also deny laser attacks

[cursive herald]

Sadly I don't know enough about energy weapons to actually make a hypothesis about it

Laser would be funny bc. It will be very hot

[winged sleet]

lasers arent hot

they contain energy which becomes heat upon contact

so if your force field is a force (like an electromagnetic field) it wouldnt create heat when interacting with lasers

[cursive herald]

Laser by itself is not hot. Otherwise energy would be wasted just to make heat. I know

But the potential energy will be in the form of heat (not all) when interacting with other stuff instead of

Material that can be thrown around by force

[quartz saddle]

ahh why does game not give me last piece for electric SMG set

at this point il take anything even if the rolls are bad

[cursive herald]

In that case I gather another good way is to divert the laser beam

Or dissipate the energy

[undone light]

[lavish dagger]

It's 30 years later tech

Even if the rocket launcher can defeat it, it is still a 360 bubble of absolute defense

Which is today APS wetdream

[winged sleet]

exactly but how does it interact with the ground?

this is the lore we need

its not like it repels the ground

[lavish dagger]

Don't know, scifi thingy

[winged sleet]

we need war thunder forum on this rn

leak us some 2090 tech

military enthusiast try not to disparage unbelievable weapons challenge (impossible)

[viral hill]

The closest thing we are getting to a force shield is active protection systems

reacting to projectiles before sending an interceptor to cancel it out

in gfl verse ofc we are dealing with something really potent like collapse particles and reverse collapse tech, this thing is straight magic

in terms of how it might work as a barrier, I would guess it functions similarly to a APS, only "solidify" the dense barrier the moment before impact

[viral hill]

I mean there must be a detector looking for potentially dangerous projectiles, either through the field itself or more traditional means. And you make sure it's not triggered by the ground.

[cursive herald]

Shield in the atmosphere will be quite interesting either way

Bc of how whatever is projecting interact with well. Air

Or rain

[viral hill]

I mean it's not hard to train your sensors to ignore these

Mayling's personal shield only has enough juice for 1 activation, it has to be very conservative.

[cursive herald]

On a big tank

Or on a doll that is a walking computer that links to the device

I can imagine it working

[viral hill]

I mean not really, we have pretty good AI right now and gfl has a lot longer plus they literally has general AI

[cursive herald]

It's mostly about energy. Or battery

[viral hill]

she really just need a small camera to identify potential danger e.g. someone pulling out a pistol and pulls the trigger

gfl2 I think they already has plasma battery and they had graphene before it, and if you only need it to discharge one time you can do a lot better

if it's based on relic tech then all bets are off, that thing is just magic

maybe it's a really common precursor tech and we are just repurpose it for defense. It kind of explains why this thing doesn't involve too much collapse particle/fluid

[winged sleet]

i mean fighters were disguising their ieds as trees in our world

force fields requiring a detector seems like such a gimp for yourself

literally limit yourself to a APS system

lets not even mention how they let whats inside to shoot out

if they just ignore the ground, buried landmines would make short work of them

[viral hill]

I mean not really. Since the barrier doesn't need a physical medium and just materialize in thin air it can make up for the delay from a detector

with traditional APS you have to detect something then train a interceptor toward the threat and fire at it

with barriers you just order the barrier in that general direction to materialize

even with mines, I'm pretty sure we can make it faster enough to block the fragments/metal jet once it detects a mine is triggered

our current tech is already reaching 500ish microseconds

[winged sleet]

buddy heat warheads pump their plasma at nanosecond intervals

not to mention laser pump mines or some other directed energy weapons

cant react faster than light

[viral hill]

yeah well they have general AI, it would be a child's play to make a threat computer that's capable of predicting things

like a previous example

[winged sleet]

any detection based defence is always fallible to some weird niche option

[viral hill]

seeing a human pulling out a gun towards you

sure but that's why you also pack armor and things

you always want a full kit

[winged sleet]

that tank looks like it would snap to a breeze

who even uses quadrapedal vehicles seriously

damage to one leg is a mobility kill

[viral hill]

which one

well tanks are not immnue to mobility kills anyway

[winged sleet]

breaking tracks is much harder than legs

[viral hill]

I recall more than half of the tigers were abandoned because mobility kill

or they simply stuck

[winged sleet]

thats the germans being stupid for terrible engineering

actually breaking tracks/tranmission through battle damage is harder than hydrolics in legs

[viral hill]

Hydraulics can be really resilient plus you don't know if the quadrupedal is using hydraulics

could be artificial muscle which gfl humans already perfected

[winged sleet]

hardcore game

looks inside

magic

[viral hill]

well I tend to give authors some leeway

[winged sleet]

if we bring out the clarketech then i cant really argue

[viral hill]

I don't forgive if someone think of a concept without thinking about the wide implication

I mean just in tank's case

artificial muscle is a leeway I'll hand over to them

because dolls are already running on them and it's pretty resilient

the clark tech in gfl has always been relic tech

and it does have very wide impacts so I'm not too upset about it

[winged sleet]

this debate started because we were thinking about real physics

[viral hill]

even hard sf has to introduce some kind of magic tech from time to time

the 1st rule is telling a good story

[winged sleet]

yeah i kinda hate scifi for this

real physics is infinitely cooler

[viral hill]

any story managed that, well most ppl won't bat an eye if it breaks logic

personally I have a 2nd rule

if you introduce something really fundamental, you have to think about the wide implications

countless SF fails at this 2nd rule

if a story passes the 2nd rule I really don't care if their device breaks physics

I would say gfl has been pretty good at passing the 2nd rule so I don't have any problem. It's the centre piece of their story after all

[cursive herald]

Sadly my field is very much unrelated to physic

Or mechanical engineering

[winged sleet]

https://www.sciencenews.org/ this site is pretty good for keeping track of new discoveries in various fields

they usually let the scientists do the explaining so theres no journalists misreporting

and the papers are cited

[cursive herald]

Good site. I mostly read things that are tied to my work. So mainly just web of science

[timber mesa]

The bp ones

[mental oxide]

you cant keep bp wep box

[timber mesa]

Oh, so the ones you have are all the store bought ones?

[empty timber]

mine is related to dark energies of the universe, am i qualified enough yet

[mental oxide]

ye

[mental oxide]

Zhao's achievement is so fucking annoying

[mental oxide]

you basically need SF to babysit her

[quartz saddle]

the deer one is giving me hell

so im skipping that

[wide crypt]

does clearing everything gives enough to empty the shop

[quartz saddle]

no i dont think its enough