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I was planning ppsh on my second team
I don't have the funny HKv6 so I can't borrow another
If u don't have corrosion then assuming u have wa and suomi
Do u have lenna built
Like with a gold wep
I don't have Lenna
I see

Qjv3?
hmm
do I need suomi or the bot has enough survivability to go balls in without shield/heals
or maybe I slot reissi in for flame assault, since looking through my built dolls I don't really see one that ticks

man, I fucked up todays run by running my first team qj, peri, g11, reissi
If ur using reissi use it with wa team
Or u use Suomi for stability break in second team if u don't have enough
yeah this team 2 i fucked up bad lol I can't even keep 416 ult up gg
gonna do a 3rd run to compensate 
v0 suomi w/ sig better than v1 reissi w/o sig?
Either way ur buffing wa
At worst u can just do both
If ur wa is built up enough to justify it
I should be able to hit at least 2k for this but maaaaaaan
Just remember that second team
Always depends on buffs
If there light bullet weak u use daiyan
If there's medium bullet
U use qj/shark/tll
If its heavy u Can use mosin
With wa
But thats only if ur Mosin has a gold and good invest
gold? yes she does
good invest? very questionable on that one
Problem with Mosin is that
Her slot inclusion means u subtract a stability break or utility like Suomi shield or g36 healing so
And tbh with any team u borrow hkv6
At Minimum
U should be doing 2.5k+
Anything less than 2k means ur just using hk incorrectly completely
I pass the 2.5k bar easily
the 4.5k bar seems a bit iffy with my current investments though
Imma see what I can do 'bout that
If ur doing 3k per run thats a good start
both my runs are around the 4.2k mark today

I messed up HK rotation on my ppsh one though, pain
should peri always basic attack to get ksenia buff?
U can consider doing so
After hk is max stacks with debuff buff with g.11
Which should be the case pretty fast
you can check I think I put the correct keys yesterday
Kek, micum always doing things backwards kek
Gonna have to wait for season 4 to see the new stuff outside of health buffs
I ain't home for awhile
Well they gonna get slammed with the feedback and change shit again on fourth season
typical micum way
corrosion team so broken lol
btw on the last turn of frenzy mode dont s2 > s1/basic, only use s1/basic so you have cg for s2 during the 1 turn of recovery mode
otherwise toxic tile uptime wont be 100%

Do you remember how many dmg/dmg% the kot dealt to the boss?
What are Peritya's best keys
Did you lvl 60 her sig and unlock all nodes?
only unlocked 2-01 
kot?
about 10% iirc
Thanks. I shouldnt build her then
niceu
so the new one now have more HP just that right
ok
Sample Run with Borrow Peri
I need my own peri o no
yk the cooking going on rn

its crazy out here in the streets
to buff hkv6 maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe
cause the dota are affected by dmg up so
Id say its worth putting shark on normal dmg ssr for her own dmg IF its on medium bullet ignore
no otherwise
because unless u have a really high extra QJ AR
which I do not it's kind of hard to maximize TLL AR by comparison
since that doesnt affect ur support attacks so
i need to compare damage charts later and see
with g11
no peri
oh
u mean for the top top one
no
thats keys peri
v3r1
v6 would do a little more
damn
shes actually kinda cracked now with g11
idk who else to bring tho
maybe ksvk?
idunno
problem with not having ur own peri
oml
i could do double 5k for sure
why not borrow klu for 1 team then ppsh for the other
wait nvm u said u dont have peri
ya exactly
like this is only really a problem
during light bullet
or no ignore day
which is prob gonna happen
medium + heavy bullet is prob fine without my own peri
but idk
obv always having peri is ideal
strong cat, now need her v6
g11 need dupes?
ok
sorry for mass ping but might oversleep reset so I cant check, reminder that g.w has begun
boss has been massively buffed hp wise, 800k > 2.2mil, 6200 point max per run, if you'd like to score more than before or learn how to apply g11 + peri for big points pls refer to below or scroll up in here or #theorycrafting-cn
https://gf2-bbs.sunborngame.com/threadInfo?id=28984&hash_flag=1
https://gf2-bbs.sunborngame.com/threadInfo?id=28997&hash_flag=1
(ideal comp with:
your own HKV6: Borrow HKV6 once use ur own peri+g11+ppsh, borrow PPSH Second
no hkv6: borrow HKV6 everytime, refer to wewe/forum post comps
@quartz saddle @main tiger @proud flame @brave birch @viral hill @cosmic quail
@mental oxide @shrewd vine @harsh timber @rustic belfry @obtuse rose @timber mesa @cursive herald @mild grail @neat geyser
reminder for last hit: @steady pebble
ok gn


no need to sweat too much btw, if u can jusut do what u did before + a little more/ some people with big investes do alot more we can maintain 5% and up np
do I really need g11 in the comp?
i see
cant forego one or the other ideally
cause g11 changes all perity support attacks to corro
so HK stacks all her debuffs + buffs practically instantly
and perity gets like a 200% damage increase
what set does she use?
so shes like qj 1.5 level
uhhh u use corros or strike
whatever has better stats
she can crit so u want that
ok

rotation can depend on a couple of things but if u want braindead tldr u ult first
ult then
while in ult form
s2 > s1 (iff off cd for dmg)
s2 > normal attack (if you need to dispell first)
you Always want to attack first with G11 because she applies CorrosDamageAmp with key, whenever she attacks
she also applies this after she ults so
You can also use Ksenia thermal recovery proc for dispell, and Ksenia to Attack buff HK every turn
which is pretty nice
or just use whatever, core comp is peri/g11/hk/ppsh + 1 dispell

i wouldnt do that cause u dont get the debuff turn 1, and the tile doesnt actually apply until the end of the enemies turn anyway
so you wouldnt get the stability down until turn 2, which it would already be 5 stability with the comp i used
if you are fighting an enemy thats not naturally corros weak thats the ideal rotation
you just want to make sure that the tile is applied, before the boss gets stability regend on turn 3/4(?)
don't remember
but u always want the debuff on, and it's better for dispells later
guess we are doing this instead
no
cause u wanna use s1 for dmg + toxic tile
normal attack only without v's is shitty
i think u only do normal attack > s1 if u need to dispell
with ksenia theres 2 dispells u have to use g11 for
since u cant time flame recovery to dispell those
Flame rec only dispells twice a fight
Cose there is only two turns when boss buff first and attack second
and another in the middle somewhere
5th I think
u cant do it when the armor up is the last action
which stinks
but wcyd
only ones that are armor up > cross attack
the guide saids I should use this rotation
If you use G11+peri+Ksen you have 3 dispels
If you use Cheeta too there is bassically infinite dispell from BP gun (in case you have it)
like its fine enough but ur gonna lose points
then what's the proper roatation?
like I said u
ult turn 1
then s2/s1 if u dont need to dispell
s2/normal attack if u need to dispell
Ksenia dispels T1 with recovery so no need for dispel on T1, T2
ya
just make sure
hk/ksenia with flame recovery gets hit by cross attack with flame.rec
You can also save up Peri S1 somehow to dispel
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1R9t6eKE11/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=1c1b779ee332b4c840f38f0bf8fc0ca0 there is video out there for reference btw
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Z1t6erEfb/?spm_id_from=333.788&vd_source=1c1b779ee332b4c840f38f0bf8fc0ca0 and this is for the broke homies out there
Basically S2-S1 any time you dont need normal attack. Also I bet S2-S1 breaks more stab
s1 has more stab break yes
How good this comp with stab break btw?
very
Probably no break on T1, I guess T2?
So stab recovery will be T4
u can break it with a ksenia support attack > g11
but yea its easier later since u get the tiles for next phases
Likely next break T5, recovery T7
i just like how bp mg
is bis
cause peri sig is ass in guild
excess crit weapon, cant get effect off
Imma use some purple nonsense for now
ill claim bp mg next
i have peri sig
but i might just salvage it
cause it is useless atm
salvage for 3 pulls is more enticing
just sucks its a dead weep
well its better later when we dont have corros crit up anymore but idk
u still have way way alot of crit so
Hmm actually, is corro MG set a good investment rn?
I have two sets of corro AR for both Mechty and Kluk
Can roll some phys for daiyan or something else like electro RF for Mosin
If you pair her with Klukai she will get the strike set effect 99% of the time
Well, peri will play with Mechty meaning her kit will be 100% corro
If WA is corro instead of ice yeah, since you can also roll for her attachments while rolling peri, shame mica didn't go for that route
no mechty might running the same like before 
3% increase assuming same stats as strike
so
not really worth it no
cause do u not have strike mg 3/3 alr?
Eh, I guess I leave it as is
nevermind i'm high

cat stocks on the rise ๐
35 now, NICE, i will do my best
I think x3 HP did great for our guild. We are no longer restricted by the 3k5 point cap
ah shit I still haven't made my hit
woah is that mechty making every support attack hit for corrosive dmg?
Ye, her passive basically made for Peritia as she not turns any support attack but AOE support attack
only aoe support attack
no way i kill it but im doing a lot more dmg for sure
ya for us its good cus we have plenty of hkv6
๐คทโโ๏ธ
Not gonna waste gems on this p2w crap anymore
Guys decided to chill in 10%
head empty no thoughts
will have to strategize for tmrs battle
muh score was pretty mediocre
can't be as bad as me
i actually think you scored better than me
il think about muh strats tmr but for today im ded
i have to give a presentation at a conference in a couple days and i havent written my slides yet
F
Ceia hit
Dw
Think he just means he did runs quickly so
Still did a good amount of points though
Just missing rex and Keystone now
But they hit late
Were still top 85 without those 4 hits
U got a really strong tll dupe atleast
(Even tho she ain't meta anymore but lol)
U can use her during medium bullet/sentinel crit tho with that amount of dupes
Since u have to borrow hk twice u can use tll during ar ignore
Without papa
Use her for dispells
@real isle done

if i have time i could try resetting for CRT
hk just failed 3 CRT in 2 turns
๐
7%, 1/3 of the guild havent done runs yet
So its vahta time
all dupes are all personal dmg
until v6
so dont roll
lol
her personal dmg is nothing to consider
only if that was bp mg
cause sig mg kinda sucks in guild
but o well
fairly minor difference
in the grand scheme of things
40
cause u over crit + cant proc the effect
up to u
actually just 5 more
lmao
wrong MG
i was looking at the other peri dupe
but i have that skin with the BP MG


sheeesh
guh damn
u gonna claim bp mgs for r6 now key?

also hey if u offrate banner
pray for
v6
for the guild
well just for me
i dont have my own peri
xddd
atleast ur fav character is hyper meta now
they should collab with honkai again surely
so i can get pink hair

literally never gonna fkin happen again
i still remember many years ago
i bought both elphet skin on Glob acc
and another one on JP acc
truly

yea her support was doing like 500 per shot last cycle
what actually helped was her support going up to 6 shots with her v
oh
hk procs 6 by herself with v6
u can proc the extras with g11 skill1, cheeta grenade (if u use her instead of ksenia), ppsh skill 1
ur at v3?
she is v4
v5 is good improvement too
perityas not bad to rate up either if u wanna v6, cause arguably shes the strongest standard if u have the ability to use a hkv6
but yea, since shes in coin gacha thats up to u (altho coin gacha rates are super ass)
nice
to be fair
they are about equal
atm
if not peri overtakes
qj is just more global
and longterm
cause if we get st dps thats hk level
you'd use qiuong anyw Very most likely
mostly because of her role in the story always providing rear support
yea
hmm so jiu V6 > peri v4 right?
wait
the heck is peri v4
3x3 to 9x9 like what tho
does it mean the Ult now cover the whole thing?
NO
u can use this site for range changes
when u check v upgrade descrips it updates the range image too

Thats more cose she is lazy 
I think you are the only source of income for Mica this month
rexlent is still minor compared to others
u forget theirs people who are bond 8, v6r6, max corrosion set g11's
(and the dmg is still just ok lmao)
people still max refresh stamina to this day yes
and buying the triple gift packs
idk what the highest dispatch level someone has rn
wouldnt be suprised if its like
lv 16/17+ atm
diggus/botzu who are fairly efficient without refiling are 12 atm
gun r's are all personal dmg
suprisingly
team dmg doesnt increase at all
kinda weird
At least mica didn't fuck up entirely this season
i need to verify that ppsh bug later
shes not in dps chart but i didnt check if she doesnt add points
i feel like she does
People on forum say it counts
whats the tldr on g11 skill activation order?
Ult -> S2+S1 if no need dispel -> S2+Atk if need dispel
for ur invest for 2 teams u can use
HK Peri PPSH G11 Ksenia/Cheeta/Jiangyu (Borrow HK/PPSH) - AOE DMG Buff
HK WA QJ Suomi PPSH (Borrow HK/PPSH) - Sentinel Crit Buff
also make sure ur g11 attacks first every round, cause she applies the debuff with prple key, your gonna tend to do it anyways for dispell but yea just make sure @gritty minnow
hk always attacks last every round
for corro team
dispell + she has aoe ult to proc peri
ah
good damage at v6 via counters
what am I dispelling?
the defense buff, but u already have g.11
its just so that if g,11 has her aoe skill off cooldown u can use jiangyu dispell skill instead
for more damage
okay
yup got it
19 mins before reset we still top 75
So this season we guaranteed top 100 if all hits at least twice per day
@gritty minnow did you read this event part 2?
Well, reissi event 2 is incoming
i pick wrong buff 
Its already part 2 event
and guild war for 2 days
but where the hell is Battle Pass

I got Peri V6 btw
monday
it's usually on the first monday of the new patch
what if i dont have g11
@real isle
borrowing a friend's G11 doesnt seem like it helps much , especially when my papasha isnt built yet
im pretty sure im missing something
i would probably bring lenna or a second dps if peri can dispel
you dont have gems for g11?
Thanks
I think I fucked up the buffs for today lmao @real isle
looks fine
i just dunno why u didnt use ppsh twice
cause don't you have your own wa?
you can either dohk + qj+shark + ppsh
or ice ppsh hk
with the cdmg shield buff
either way would be 5k+
easily
guild boss is 8k defense now, so double ppsh is highly pref
What to do when you double renting I wonder, is renting PPS preferable?
theres no character that overdoes hk no matter what
So its basically gonna be 8k instead of 9 today
Yeah I fucked up lmao, should've replace WA with ppsh
if u have ur own v3+ wa
then suomi wa ppsh hk qj
yea
if suomi is v2
then u can use shield buff
if ur not suomi v2
id just use sharkry
Wa V1, suomi V0
Humu
oh btw for those who need a V6 peri can borrow mine
dunno how good this is
keys?
R2 weap
use attack% keys
if possible
support attack qj one is ok
even tho over crit
what other keys are those exactly
other than qj
cant tell
oh thats
jiangyu key yea
thats good
but yeah those keys are fine
ideally if u had bp mg thatd be Great but u overcrit cap by like 25%
with sig
I don't 
peri might get a percentage less or so but its not needed for kill strats
yea who would
as if killing is even possible
nobody thought peri is meta for gw so
the gw shift the bp wep meta to either smg or mg
bp smg has always been good but
just had no character for it
in terms of valuation
the dispell effect was just highlighted now
- with cheeta
since cheeta has surged in meta use
due to attack buff scarcity
4 supports in a row, 0 attack buffs
only one is g36 but she has a super scuffed method
I still remember when AR is the only thing people recommend when choosing a bp weapon
oh well
mica new bp season when?
Nope, kinda wanna save my gems for whoever the 1 year anniversary unit is
vector!!
๐ญ but yeah i dont have any gems for gacha anniver fk
Oh a rare sora no kiseki enjoyer
well waiting Kai atm 4 days LEFT
Isnt it 5?im waiting for pc release since no ps5, I'm already up to date to kuro 2
I'm almost certain next event is vector
What makes u think so?
4 for tomorrow heh , but yeah pc kinda need wait for 6 months at least- i'll 100% watch yutub jp player 1st lol
the leaks
well not exactly leaks of the order
rip hayamin
Being f2p is hard
but just the leaks of the code where vector is placed right below 416 and G11
+rate off full
and I suspect vector has fire elemetal
forgot that peritya nade can also remove buff
well u can see we got skin vector on dis event tbh lol
and her debuff stacking goes insane with full ranked gun
rexlao lend me your credit card
for what 
for gacha wat else?
yeah what gacha
all gacha games -heh-
still coping for any DEFY members
๐ญ they are d
That's even more copium than defy
Honestly any AR members coming to GFL2 with whatever the fuck is happening in gfl1 now is just pure copium
My RO635 pls survive
Heck even if ump45 suddenly decides to stop being an OL and starts shooting ill roll
AR-15 is
What
yeah apprently
iirc after G28 and Andros, its either springfield or star
Inb4 ar15 is the 1st year anniversary unit
And every anniversary we get a new AR unit
mama spring busy on her cafe
While getting a mod3 for groza, or whatever they decide to name the upgrade system
Wonder how Cheeta works in this team, ult on T3, T6 somehow?

huh
did you mald for the penatration buff?
Oooh
bruh
like peri landing vuln 1
and ya the random buffs
but for u diggus u dont need it to kill
u have ur own v6r6 hk
mines r1
lol
but for me there is some rng yea
until er get attack buff or I get my own peritya
but I need my peritya t v6 so it doesnt matter prob
lol

id have to test some non v6 kill strats
doesnt seem optimistic
ah 
i guess i rate up peri in standard pulls
Hmm, how much V6 helps here tho? She supports G11 attacks?
cause yea v6 is sicko
V6 peri is so good
its for her own personal damage
and fast stacking hk even more
cause u can do 3 more support attacks a turn if cheeta has one
u get 6 procs from hk
+1 from papa s1
+1 from cheeta s2
+1 from end of turn dot from hk
so u get 9/10 aoe supports from Peri
Very nice
which is 4+50% mod
yeah i'm swapping kesnia with cheetah
if u have v6 peri then cheetah is pref yes
Wouldnt count for next guild war to be the same way to build peritia further or roll her banner up until we see the chnges, but for now looks like V6 cat is prio
u lose attack buff uptime but the modifiers make up for it handily
you use the poison buff today right?
ya shes the best standard character at v6
fo sure
ya
thats corros crit dmg
seems to be bis buff for corros
From Tgarbage to T0, lmao
hmm if thats the case then mid bullet penetration+ poison buff in the same day may actually make double kill possible again
for sure
Doing members runs without peri feels painful ye
i mean if ur v6 ice team also
u can alr double kill
no matter the buff
atm
v6 corro and v6 ice can double kill daily
triple is pretty fkin tough
lol
cheeta is better than ksenia?
oh
I still remember getting into an argument about how peri is more than viable when 416 is out
peri was still not as good as qj
pre g11
she was at most under the most optimal conditions
85% qj
but now shes like 150%
with g11
if not more under ideal circumstances
well the fact that I don't need to care about 416 cd more than makes up for that 15% at the time
ya i mean the QOL for HK
and the team comping is seperate
if ur just talking pure indiv damage
cause u can argue qj is more universal and long-form
if u bring up qol and comping
yeah but if the endpoint is the same the one with more QoL is just better, and at the time both teams kills
last gw u could kill with anything + hk
i miss those days
but o well
90wish is better off rn with change
so WHATEVEA
and its fun for me personally to optimize
as always
rng is a little annoying
but oh well
just have to deal with it for this and next gw
then we get attack buff
lucksacc 
well we always got the uhh mid bullet
i dont have an extra papa
so I have to debate sacking my corro team with papa
V6 WA + Peri on Heavy Bullet seems pretty good
snow you think i should still wishlist qj or switch to peri?
or settle with v3 qj then switch to peri
depends how much u care to do as much as possible with corro team, cause the difference is 5.8k> 6,333
cause u still need ur own QJ for team 2
V5 to V6 peri makes a big difference while QJ gives a more steady progression in Vs I feel
i see
id still go for QJ v4/v5 ngl
unless ur peri is so close to v6
u can stop at qj v5
v4
nah shes only v1 atm
okay
Does G11 R1 worth pulling if own Kluk V3 and support V6?

i mean its like 7% dmg for hk and peri
but its not like u can gain that past v6 hk and v6 peri
so its good filler
and if ur a schizo u start doing stuff like this

why
I thought yostar is the optimal weapon for shark
just wait for Chinese market to crash
cause u buff hk
without mediium bullet ignore and papasha
just better to use it
unless u have 2 high dupe qj ars
which i dont so
TLL ar is alr sub optimal on shark
which is soonTM according to youtube finance bros 
My crypto traders begs the differ
@real isle btw what keys you using for cheetah ?
huh
for fixed keys
no common keys?
for common keys u want G36 key on someone, I used it on her
then Ksenia key
rest doesnt really matter
u can do attack ones
like Papasha
cause u actually want attack stats to heal
cause shes gonna fuck around and heal the bot alot
if ur in range
i timed it so that g11 and hk tanks the missile attack with full hp
u can adjust accordingly
does sharky need to be w/ QJ v3 for optimal damage
Ye, QJ V3 enables her support key
a "crash" crash won't happen, but feel free to bet against China because that's given
Missing Hits:
@ nicolas/keystone hits late
@ sumio im hitting
@quartz saddle
@shrewd vine
@main tiger
@timber mesa
@visual flare
@brave birch
@neat geyser
@median harbor
@summer rune
current standings:
currently hitting

doing it right now
doing it rn too
literally
i am whacking now
u guys all awake at the same time or something damn lol
honorary sea gang
I was deliberating over my attachment collection for like 3 hours beforehand
(read: getting rid of garbage)
and throwing in some better ones on the dorks I planned to use
its arownd 5pm in eu man
5/6
so a lot of people are on
normally I do my hits late at night
^ same
coz it's right after reset
I woke up roughly 9 hours ago
but this time I had story to catch up on
5pm now
i do mine usually like 3h before reset
for me its 12pm and thats about the earliest I wake up on weekends since I sleep pretty late
I do mine 4h after reset
usually do gachas when I wake up or lunch time if its weekdays
oh, my bad
its ok just a reminder
still pretty early
just dunno if I might nap

still got 6 hrs left
im a night owl
sleep in the day usually
when im not working anyway
cause all the games i played and play rn are active at like 12pm - 12 am lol
sameee i stay up thill 3/4 am
relatable
I can't really stay awake past 2am
I can, but I will sleep like a dog to noon
Don't really like that
But anyway. DST will mess up my timetable next month. 1 less hour to do dailies
@real isle fyi tomorrow i will do my hit like 3 hours before the reset
le office work day
oh @rotund stratus also missing
Will hit before reset

what is the max amount of points you can score?
feels bad that i didnt save enough cores to upgrade my mechty
cheeta is good still? This time boss doesn't have light bullet weakness anymore



















