90wish - merge completed

[rotund stratus]

differencce is only 50 gems for 5 and 10% not a big deal, and I think we can still maybe get 5%

[cursive herald]

Mostly about bragging right

And maybe ksvk was a bad choice

Her DMG is quite meh

[empty timber]

I got her to buff machi more

[brave birch]

i can prob get a higher score tomorrow with papa

[lavish dagger]

finally i can quit the guild

but now this has no space 😦

[rotund stratus]

there should be 2 more spots in like 2 days

[lavish dagger]

should i wait?

[rotund stratus]

up to you, but if you want to join you should join the waitlist, there is only 1 person in front of you

and 2 days you aren't missing out on much

[lavish dagger]

is there a way to cancel join request?

[rotund stratus]

yes

go to your request history and click on the x button

[lavish dagger]

where?

[rotund stratus]

i can't see it anymore since I'm already in one, but it should be bottom mid, next to the auto join

use translator app to make sure you don't click on auto join

[lavish dagger]

oh ok

[real isle]

Alicia and MHD have list priority

So id wait in the guild your in

You and Hoisagi are the level after

But thag might take a week or two

[cursive herald]

Do we have that mamy people?

[quartz saddle]

i think i could definitely get to 3k if i had papasha fully built. You can still get her to work decently with her skill 2 since it makes the summon stop moving but can only use every other AOE since it costs 4 skill points.

have to work on timing everything together all the def downs and armor breaks together

can easily hit the boss for 50k+ with wawa

[real isle]

Only problem with papa is her cg cost on s2 is so massive

You have to auto

Since s1 is kinda useless

[pure swallow]

@real isle i left the guild i joined by mistake, i see i can't request to join yet, can you tell me when there's room?

[quartz saddle]

s1 buffs her dmg right?

her ult actually does a ton of dmg sometimes

i dun get how it works tho

[real isle]

S1 only buffs the follow up Effect attack on a duped ppsh

Complicated but most of your damage tldr

Is from s2 and ult

S2 has high cg cost

Ukt has cooldown

[quartz saddle]

🤔 hmm ic

i saw her ult hit for 20k dmg and i was surprised

my papasha stats for now will be pretty high once i max her out

sad i rushed to raise zhao first

anti terror support is just the summons support atk right?

[real isle]

Let me rerewd the kit again before I say anything

But I think ATS is from a dupe

@quartz saddle

Could u see me the bots skills of it has any

Ss

In battle

Cause yea papas kit i don't think says anything regarding the bot

But her kit references things that don't exist outside of dupes

So I assume the bot has it

[quartz saddle]

the boss skills?

[real isle]

Bot

Like the city guard from papa

Post it on #theorycrafting-cn

[quartz saddle]

ok

[quartz saddle]

ohh my 2nd team actually faired a lot better

seems like at max guild buffs we will likely be able to kill the boss

[real isle]

U got 260 currency for both riggt botzu

[quartz saddle]

yeah

[real isle]

Seems like 2400 or or 2500 + is max coins atm

Unless u gotta get 4k plus lol

[quartz saddle]

maybe you can get more if you kill it

[real isle]

No

Prob not

[quartz saddle]

hmmm

[real isle]

Dead at <3.4k

[quartz saddle]

oh dang

[real isle]

I barely almost killed so

With v1 and only v6 supp

3.3k

[quartz saddle]

yeah i wasnt too far off my last run

[real isle]

So there is such a thing as overinvestment

Eventually u just want both teams to kill

If u wanna bald really hard thats 3 teams

[quartz saddle]

haha

[real isle]

Or even trying to bait counter at final turn

To deal overkill dmg

Cause u still get points

[quartz saddle]

well itl get easier the guild has bonus dmg to the boss right

i thought i saw like 30% more dmg bonuses

[real isle]

I believes so

Its pretty varied in increases tho

[quartz saddle]

once we get higher lvl its within grasp of killing it

[real isle]

Like one was specifically single target dmg increase

So can't say it will always be like that would have to check

Cause what if we get aoe dmg increase

Thats fkin useless

Ya?

[quartz saddle]

we just need another op character like wawa

416 pls

[quartz saddle]

were slowly climbing back up

we almost back up into the top 100

[rotund stratus]

keep in mind most of the CN people are still asleep/at work

during their dead hours we climb but during our dead hours we fall

[livid fog]

now that i get the mechanics its time to grind

[quartz saddle]

the shield buff one is really effective. Was able to get a ton of points even without papasha.

[livid fog]

2343, much better

also @real isle here is an exactly 1000 run that I got with a 3rd attempt using a ghetto burn team lol
borrowed the v6 suomi, shark+ksenia+krolik+dush

175 shartcoins

[rotund stratus]

3rd attempt?

[livid fog]

yeah

[rotund stratus]

how

[livid fog]

buy another access with gems

top right of the dust frontline screen

[rotund stratus]

ah I see

wow 50 for one try

doesn't seem worth it tbh

[livid fog]

wouldnt try it

past 2 attempts, you cant really run anything worthwhile because your DPS team is already down

plus you can only use one of the remaining debuffs so it's fked

[rotund stratus]

it's probably for dalaos who have every single character well built

[livid fog]

even then, I can't see what chars you would run... you have to borrow a PPSH, suomi/ressi are used up, not many other DPS that do ice/turbid and are AR/SMG. you also don't have QJ or wawa since those are probably used up as well

[rotund stratus]

and this is probably what separate ultra try hard guilds with semi comp ones like us

I'm sure the top 10-20 guilds have every single member doing 3 hits everyday

[livid fog]

yeah, but your teams are really just running on fumes past 2 hits

I think for run 3 you just have to use a burn team, nothing else is even available lol

[rotund stratus]

you can probably do an electric team with ump9, qbz97 and mosin, and borrow a QJ or WA, and maybe mp7 for healer

[livid fog]

you don't get max defense down without PPSH (+guard), so you have to borrow her for runs 2 & 3
I suggested burn team mostly because ksenia can heal stability, + you get ghetto QJ with sharkry

[rotund stratus]

ppsh is good but not mandatory I think

since you can still inflict normal defense downs through a multitude of units which is 30%

ppsh gives you 50% but it's not like absolutely must have

[livid fog]

imo if you have weak teams its BIS

I should've probably borrowed PPSH for run 3 so the trash damage output of my burn team could get at least compensated slightly

oh well

[rotund stratus]

nah I think you should have borrowed QJ

cleanse + huge damage

way more than a ppsh would have given you

i don't think your team had cleanse which would have made a huge difference

[livid fog]

yeah my last team was trash

time to experiment next reset

[quartz saddle]

only way it would be worth it is if for w/e reason we cant get the last papasha shard on the final day with basic currency generation

[rotund stratus]

each cleanse on the defense up from boss is perma 15% attack for your entire team

so it's a must have every run

[quartz saddle]

suffering

farming this every week is going to be pure torture

[obtuse rose]

Im not sure but depend on doritos to ticket I might want to farming it too

[quartz saddle]

well il farm it until i get v6 cat at least

then itl depend if im getting weapon shop tickets for dupes

[empty timber]

looks like next level is 2400

after 2100

[timber mesa]

How many points does the mob rush give?

My teams are underlevelled and I'm barely cracking 1400 on the boss

[obtuse rose]

mob only give 800

[timber mesa]

Ah, so still worth hitting the boss then

[obtuse rose]

you could borrow rex wa to carry

[quartz saddle]

is the buff here just on the ally that got targeted or whole team?

oh its a debuff on enemy nm

[empty timber]

the boss gets debuffed

the healthier the target the more dmg it takes

[obtuse rose]

also about the clean def buff I clean it with tll but somehow dont see any atk increase

[empty timber]

max 45%

[quartz saddle]

i think tmr we can hit lvl 3 maybe

[empty timber]

gawd i wish we can swap gear on the stage prep screen

[quartz saddle]

gear management is a hassle for sure

do yal know any guide for these yet?

[timber mesa]

those are just affection tickets iirc

[quartz saddle]

yeah i meant like which ones go with what dolls

[timber mesa]

I don't think it makes a difference?

🤔

[quartz saddle]

some dolls get bonus affection from certain gifts

so picking the right gifts will lvl them faster

[timber mesa]

yeah, but these are the generic tickets, so you get the same exp from all of them

these aren't the special items afaik

[visual flare]

uhhh

then why're there 5 different ones

[quartz saddle]

wait u sure? i see each of them has diff items

[visual flare]

the generic gifts look like flat boxes

[quartz saddle]

yeah with numbers right

[visual flare]

I don't recall what they look like but I'm very sure they don't look like that

I'm guessing those 5 just open up to be different gifts

[quartz saddle]

il test one just to make sure

i can be the fall guy

[visual flare]

though the box names are rather undescriptive

"purple gift box - <insert number>"

[quartz saddle]

purchased this one. these are the options. Cant select which one u want but i got the necklace. for daiyan its +75. for zhao its +60. So yeah picking the right gift matters

[visual flare]

the dorks should have indication of what they like vs don't like

[visual flare]

yeah, I see a smiley next to Daiyan

[quartz saddle]

lemme see i think some dolls get 2x bonus

[visual flare]

iirc there's a green smiley bonus too

maybe I'm hallucinating tho

[quartz saddle]

yeah green is x1.5

pink is 1.75

[visual flare]

didn't expect QJ to really like earrings

[quartz saddle]

maybe best u can do is 1.75 lemme see if any1 gets 2x

[visual flare]

she seems like the kind of dork to like knives

[empty timber]

those look like firecracker earrings

[visual flare]

I'd imagine there's also gifts that dolls hate

maybe we should catalogue them if given the chance

[quartz saddle]

nagant, mosin nagant, sharkry and vepvep like the earings the most

[visual flare]

iirc gifts also rando drop from stages

I've gotten a set of headphones from yesterday when I blitzed through 60 stam refills

I'll check when my commissions are done so I don't have to log in again

[quartz saddle]

yeah i didnt see any1 with better than the goofy red smiley

guess 1.75 is best

the good thing about the gifts is that you are only getting purples from them

the bad part is that its random what u get

actually it seems the final gift might be a generic the description doesnt show multiple options

id bet the virtual reality goggles one is for lenna

[undone light]

what fixed key do you guys use on her

[empty timber]

main one being change the minion into a turret

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[obtuse rose]

maybe doing some micro will increase the point

like change key to dispel the def buff and tank the cross rocket

[visual flare]

boss does pitiful damage

actually, is it more difficult today? am I gonna get my ass whooped?

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[obtuse rose]

this team is enough for 2k just need a little stat and micro management WA v6 can carry hard

but still doing this is just do your best higher point give us more coin

[visual flare]

If I stack everything into a good team I think I can barely clear the 2k hurdle

but that'd mean my second team would hit like a noodle

[obtuse rose]

if you also have WA and qj and better both suomi and cen I think core team is enough
you can run QJ wa papa suomi/cen + 1 next team remove papa then +2

every healer should work fine but lower your damage if it is colphne

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[obtuse rose]

remember to take the dispel buff key on QJ

and in papa team take all 6 unit to tank the cross rocket

[quartz saddle]

puffffyyy

[obtuse rose]

it will debuff the boss def a lot

[quartz saddle]

i was able to get this score with this team

most of the damage came from the borrowed wawa

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[quartz saddle]

we have someone in the guild with V6

i think that might be the one

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[quartz saddle]

make sure you check the guide on the new boss theres some mechanics u gotta know

[visual flare]

there's a guide?

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[quartz saddle]

#1270530208021221386 message

[visual flare]

I can't read anyways, unga bunga QJ FUA go brrr

[rotund stratus]

tldr for the guide is cleanse the defense ups, have the highest hp doll tank the lock on, tank the big aoe attack with 6 units, that's pretty much it

[quartz saddle]

i could record a vid tmr to show what ta do

used all my tries today

[visual flare]

oh

so just exactly what I've been doing so far

nothing changed

[quartz saddle]

just a couple important things to memberino

[viral hill]

alright slots now?

[quartz saddle]

we should have the level up by tomorrow

but full rn

[viral hill]

ofc, it's alright since we have all the way until 14th to change

[quartz saddle]

we sneak on to the leaderboards while every1 else is asleep

the top ranked guild is pretty crazy it has over double our points

[viral hill]

200 IQ move

[obtuse rose]

stat mean a lot

V6 vs V1 is already a gap

[undone light]

they prolly do three hits too

that's extra 25-30k pts every day

[viral hill]

whales going for V6

all within Mica's plan

[quartz saddle]

our best contributer has 13.5k points if we had 26 of him we would still only have 350k points they have 400k

so its 26 whels

[mild grail]

bruh being whales is kinda

[quartz saddle]

either that or cheating, but idk i doubt it. The difference in top 3 vs rest is crazy on its own

[mild grail]

cheating on first weeks

[quartz saddle]

i mean 400k is definitely possible

[obtuse rose]

no our highest contributer is not all V6 he sometime all full x3 only

I think even in high guild some not really go full refill

[timber mesa]

It's ok

we can hang onto top 100 like mica hangs onto the sensor tower rankings

[quartz saddle]

yess

[shrewd vine]

3x runs per day or kick

i can see this in EN LOL

[quartz saddle]

well we dont even need top 100 we just need top 5%

or top 10% is ok

[timber mesa]

I want 416 to release to I can dump all my money

[quartz saddle]

yess

416 and beepo

[real isle]

tbh the points arent that insane to believe

[quartz saddle]

i have just enough for a skin so im hoping we get some good stuff next big patch

[real isle]

5200 x 2 x 26 = 270400

[quartz saddle]

yeah its not impossible just 26 dedicated players

[real isle]

reason why our points is so low is

alot of people didnt hit on the first day

so we are missing half a days effort

plus the casual aspect

[quartz saddle]

yeah if everyone hit on the first day we would easily be top 50

[obtuse rose]

the refill is only to get enough coin for the weekly rs or try hard guild

normal should not invest in that

[quartz saddle]

is any1 here planning to make a guide for the gifts?

[obtuse rose]

well I thing we dont have enough data

[quartz saddle]

i looked on the bbs but didnt see anything (also i have a hard time searching since i dont know cn)

[obtuse rose]

have to buy each of it then check

[visual flare]

imagine it's just

giga frickin whale

every char V6

for every member

[quartz saddle]

lmao

[visual flare]

coordinating hits

rerolling attempts until their 10/300 CDMG crits every time

[quartz saddle]

imagine every character V6 tryharding getting 3.5k points per try

9-10k points per day

[undone light]

i wouldnt put it past these fellas for having a timeline and expected dmg from chara each turn

[quartz saddle]

actually they would need about 5.2k ea per day to get to 400k

[visual flare]

"TLL moves to grid number H20, reroll until all buffs roll into dmg up, then ult, if it crits then proceed"

[quartz saddle]

so its definitely possible i managed to get 5.5k today without refreshing

[real isle]

ya

its not out of the realm of possibility

esp if some people x3 and do 3k each run

cause boss hp isnt infinite

eventually it dies

[visual flare]

wait

boss HP saves between attempts?

[quartz saddle]

yep a clear clear is like 3.5k right?

[visual flare]

or is it per attempt

[quartz saddle]

its per attempt

[real isle]

ya im our guild im v1

[quartz saddle]

but he has health bars

[visual flare]

oh

[real isle]

with my best team im 3.3k

kill is 3.39k

[quartz saddle]

ah icic

[real isle]

but thats hard to do with all 2 or 3 teams

but 5k per day is pretty easy

for v1+ if u know what ur doing

[quartz saddle]

i was still about 18 bars off with 2.9k points

[real isle]

ya cuase theres a point drop off

for the last bit of hp

dont get That much

for pure coins u want 2 teams to do 2400> points

so ur each the last threshold (260 coins)

[visual flare]

scrolled thru the gifts for a bit, there's no negative reactions to gifts

[quartz saddle]

yah i made it there earlier with these teams

[visual flare]

at least, not for the selection I have

[real isle]

there shouldnt be negatives

[visual flare]

though I'm a bit surprised Ceia likes BIC lighters

[real isle]

just neutral - orange - pink affinity?

is how gifts are

[visual flare]

neutral orange green pink

[real isle]

maybe one more affection tier

yea

[visual flare]

for Ksenia

[quartz saddle]

i wanna check all the purple gifts

since those are the ones u can buy from the shop

[visual flare]

she really loves headphones, likes drugs and BIC lighters, and appreciates explosives and whatever that tool set is

blue ones are rando drops from farming stages n stuff

purple gifts give base 60, yeah?

coulda sworn there was a bigger one

[quartz saddle]

so far i know nagant, mosin nagant, sharkry and vepvep like the earings

[visual flare]

oh yeah, there's a megasize one in the shop

I'll buy that one and see how much it gives next time my comms are done

\

[quartz saddle]

the last gift gives the picture frame one which i think zhao likes?

pretty interesting that purple gives 105 affection exactly so you need 8 purple gifts to go from lvl 1-2 affection

[visual flare]

well

less egregious than princess connect iirc

iirc it was over 500 full-sized cakes requires to go from bond 1 to bond 12

[quartz saddle]

seems its more efficient to level everyone's affection equally if you are trying to build levels on this thing

its 840 for 10 points and 1960 for 20 so more efficient to just level everyone to lvl 2

[rotund stratus]

nah they are legit

I saw some of the top guilds posting recruitment thread on NGA

to join those you need to have at least 8 V6 characters all with maxed out weapons with good attachments

[quartz saddle]

lmao ok now i see

[rotund stratus]

they personally verify everyone lol

so yeah, whale only guilds

and I'm sure they are all doing 3 hits a day

[quartz saddle]

any1 else wanna buy some of the purple gifts to check who best wants them?

il buy one more tmr then i have to save for the pull

[visual flare]

holy jesus

that's a lotta moneys

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[quartz saddle]

[rotund stratus]

yeah rough estimate is around 15k USD for an account like that

assuming you get your desired doll/weapon with 70 pulls

[visual flare]

that's the maximum, right?

right?

[rotund stratus]

7840 pulls

[visual flare]

oh god that's the minimum

[rotund stratus]

I would say that's average leaning a bit on the luckier side

if unlucky probably 20k USD

[visual flare]

so what I'm hearing

is that it's gonna cost an arm and a leg to be number 1

[quartz saddle]

they are paying the GFL staff salaries

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[visual flare]

uh oh

I used the wrong buff

it's so over

[quartz saddle]

you can quit out without losing the attempt

[viral hill]

little does he know, rankings are designed to farm whales

[quartz saddle]

unironically true

having whales fight for top spot is good strats

[viral hill]

I mean hey if they have so much money lying around, throw it at Mica is not the worst thing they can do

beats spending a few hours in a casino, for example

[visual flare]

I found out after I finished

realized the "damage beyond 6 tiles" buff wasn't used

[quartz saddle]

ah i cc

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[obtuse rose]

let the whale fight each other so more money for mica

[wide crypt]

all that's left is to add guild war and betting like gbf

[undone light]

[proud flame]

90wish vs KCCO when

[viral hill]

lmao

[visual flare]

if guilds have members

I wanna see coalitions made up of guilds

[cursive herald]

so united guilds

the UG

[viral hill]

alright any hope of open slots in a few hrs?

I'm debating if I should take today's box and boss fights

[shrewd vine]

meow meow

[shrewd vine]

unlikely, most folks already did their share

[obtuse rose]

you can count the turn to see we have how many left

[viral hill]

alright, I'll do it today and hope for the best tomorrow

[cursive herald]

i didn't do mine

[brave birch]

[shrewd vine]

most*

[shrewd vine]

the day that i didn't misclick the selectable buff

[brave birch]

hell ye

lets not miss click it tomorrow either

i almost did today

[shrewd vine]

i think sharkry didn't do enough

did less potential damage than nem

maybe swap sharkry to dush tomorrow to super buff wa

[brave birch]

worth the try

[shrewd vine]

nem's def down is too strong when i don't have papasha there

[brave birch]

are there any other def downs besides qj and nem?

groza i think

but its low

no nvm she has movement deruction

[shrewd vine]

nagant

30% def down and 10% dmg vuln

[brave birch]

but if u use nagant over neme u lose dmg

[shrewd vine]

yeah, nem's potential damage is too high

[obtuse rose]

nem have 50 def ignore

so this time she does more

[brave birch]

true that

[shrewd vine]

i think replacing shark for dush might be the play

ice up for wa

[brave birch]

yep that works

cause we have no good tololo buffer for now

we put all the eggs in the wa basket and call it a day

[shrewd vine]

also papasha does silly amounts of damage

my non-maxed papasha already has 2.7k atk in battle

[brave birch]

ye i saw mine hit for 30k on the boss with ulty

i wonder how hard she'll hit with sig weapon

[cursive herald]

papasha can do 30k?

that's a lot of dmg

[brave birch]

that's whit the boss having no stability and the debuff on it

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[brave birch]

so take that 30k with a grain of salt

[shrewd vine]

there's like 3 different buffs to manage or something

[obtuse rose]

might want to translate the buff everyday for people to choose right

some of us using wrong buff that no girl get buff

[cursive herald]

I just choose the one that looks like ice

Bc WA

[obtuse rose]

it sometime not good as the sniper get 50% def ignore

[shrewd vine]

i can do that, just provide me the image

[shrewd vine]

this buff i was referring to is papasha's buffs lmao

[obtuse rose]

you can actually tap it to see which girl get the buff

[shrewd vine]

its better to make an informed decision though

[obtuse rose]

blue is permement buff red is the buff you choose

yeah it better to understand what is the buff

so the strategy is better

[shrewd vine]

All Sentinel Class Dolls gain 20% Damage
All Heavy Ammo attacks ignore 50% Defense
Gain 20% damage when dealing damage to an enemy target greater than 6 tiles.
Gain 25% Critical Damage dealing damage against an enemy target with Turbid debuffs.

i will request for a CN locked channel for daily TL of this me thinks

or we can create one thread just for this

[cursive herald]

Heavy ammo

So sniper teams tine

[shrewd vine]

yeah i'll create a thread for this

[cursive herald]

The 20% over 6 tiles is silly

Only snipers can benefit from that

[shrewd vine]

dalao is here

[mental oxide]

ez

[molten thorn]

[mental oxide]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1JiYWeGEdQ?p=2&vd_source=1c1b779ee332b4c840f38f0bf8fc0ca0

just follow this guide

[cursive herald]

I swear this is such a beautiful WA

[obtuse rose]

you can only use if you have same girl and same invest sometime

[cursive herald]

Fine. I will buy the damn skin

[mental oxide]

wait you didn't buy her skin?

what are you, broke?

[cursive herald]

Another 15 bucks down the drain

Damn you mica

I spent more already than in PNC

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[cursive herald]

I only have spas's and suomi's

[mental oxide]

you got we chat pay?

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[shrewd vine]

i whale for him in exchange for tf2 keys

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[mental oxide]

that is the most scuffed trade I've ever seen

[cursive herald]

I feel like some money laundering scheme is here

[shrewd vine]

he is losing money from vat

not worth it for him

[cursive herald]

Paying with PayPal is actually cheaper for me

[mental oxide]

I used wechat pay so its easy for me

[cursive herald]

I am saving for the next skin

Probably tll's

[mental oxide]

Although I gonna say

we chat pay has the worst user design ever

the button for getting scaned and scanning other people/shops are on completely different place for no reason

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[cursive herald]

Sigh

There goes my saving

I hate mica

[mental oxide]

At least mica didn't shower you with mosin nagants

[cursive herald]

I only have 1 Mosin skin in gfl1

The knight one

[quartz saddle]

groza dress is very nice

i have suomi bikini too and 1500 coins left that im saving for another nice skin

i use paypal and just get the monthly card and bp

[cursive herald]

too bad bp doesn't give any coins

[quartz saddle]

im hoping bp gets buffed to give affection items

[cursive herald]

lmao

idk

maybe 1st anni they will change the weapon selection

to something more useful

[cloud lichen]

wouldn't surprise me tbh

[real isle]

accidentally saved over a run that coulda killed

-300

we should be able to level up tmmrw

[cedar field]

Wawa 6+6 makes a bank eh

[real isle]

ya

oh yea

i should tell rex something

one more thing to change about his wawa

cause tbh from current strats

u wanna just WA S1 turn 1

then you ult

your ult will lineup for the most dmg that way

so u need the 3cg key

so you can have enough points to always s1 later on wa

[cedar field]

Also it seems that peeps use contam regen key

[real isle]

contam regen key?

[cedar field]

I guess it works on her layers?

Ye

[real isle]

what contam regen

wdym

[cedar field]

Upon kill

[real isle]

uh

[cedar field]

Lemme grab a link

[real isle]

wdym layers

[cedar field]

Layers of the boss

[real isle]

that counts as a kill?

[cedar field]

I cant get from where that wa get contam from

Cose she never runs of it

[real isle]

u sure thats not just v6

restoring 2 contam per turn

[cedar field]

Above of that

This is kill run

[real isle]

i mean did your wa also run?

after every s1 shot

oh wait nvm

woops thats purple key

so u got a cg after every hit?

I didn't notice that

but I'll look out for it next time

cause I always have the key on

3cg, attack, regenonkill

[cedar field]

Nwm

I dont think its the case

[real isle]

?

im so confused

[cedar field]

Just forget what I was saying

[real isle]

so do u got like proofing of where ur getting cg or

ok

LOL

[cedar field]

Ye, Im rewatching

Wit

Here it is

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1JiYWeGEdQ

Please get to 2:16 and tell me how Wawa restored her catnam here

She had 6, used S1, should be 4, but she has 6?

How does that work?

[real isle]

@gritty minnow dalao could you put this key setup on wa when you got time,
3cg
10% attack
third can be whatever just not

this one

cause you lose a good amount of dmg not being able to apply ice debuffs

i mean dog she has the buff from v6

you get 2 contam at the end of turn for 2 turns

when you press ult

[cedar field]

Oh, it works for more than 1 turn huh

[real isle]

I mentioned this before

yes

[cedar field]

Fun times

Okay, ty

[real isle]

ya

so u wanna

with v6 wa

turn 1 s1

ult

s1 spam until ult cd

thats her perfect rotation

[cedar field]

We dont have V6 wa sadly so we gotta miss out

[real isle]

even worth losing 10% attack over

if u dont have suomi on

just cause ur counters will deal alot more damage on phases

altho that better be with papa team

u can avoid damage otherwise on 5 man

[cedar field]

Gotta remember for next time

[real isle]

but yea that video is a good reference

fairly low invest kill, double kill

[cedar field]

Compared our output, even I could pull off if not kill, at least 3k+ with this

[real isle]

zhahui found a purpose

ya

[cedar field]

Funnily enough yea, she cooks

[real isle]

also yea regen on kill is only 1 cg

prob shoulda just mentioned that 2

cause regening 2 cg would be kinda weird

even if it did count

it wouldnt proc twice

[cedar field]

EN cant read properly moment on me

[gritty minnow]

k

[real isle]

thanks

i keep forgetting it saves like so fast on the last turn end

cause I was testing with yunaris wa to see CBI difference

and I was getting equal

which is pretty wack

cause rexs wa has 5 more weapon dupes and much more stats

shows how fuckin bad cbi is once u have alot of chill

that def pen loss stinks

heavy bullet buff / ice crit dmg / sentinel is probably the best kill buffs

heavy bullet especially cause u can use ur own mosin with wa gear, pull a v6 wa, then use ur own with papasha for second

can like generally gurantee double kill with v1+ in that case

Also apprently theres a bug where city guard damage doesnt count towards points?

I have to check that later, cause thats pretty bad

you definitely never wanna s2 then

[quartz saddle]

oh interesting they are using zhao as a healer

[cedar field]

Yes, heal enough to survive damage and deal damage

@real isle what do we know about guild leaving cooldown? Is it 24h or jusst till next reset?

[real isle]

no idea

didnt see anything on this

[cedar field]

Well, we can try ig

[real isle]

@proud flame @cloud lichen should be able to level up soon for ur 2 slots

if u wanna leave ur guilds

didnt ponch leave his guild

and immed join urs?

iirc

[cedar field]

Yes but Ponch had 0 contribution

Damn, both of my mates who want to join were promoted to mods in guilds

[real isle]

lol

[cedar field]

So they cannot reale on their own

[real isle]

wtf

[cedar field]

:/

I guess cose both of them had good scores

[real isle]

guess u gotta

ask someone to make a cn message

asking gl to demote them so they can go to a guild

[cedar field]

Yea

Looks like no 28/28 tomorrow

[real isle]

actually

since neko is probably the most invested person on the waiting list

could I ask one of you to sit out and join next level? @proud flame @cloud lichen whoever is the lower invest between you

so we can retain rank and level a bit faster

looks like Alicia is the higher invest yea

but its up to you

since you have list prio I won't rip that from you if you don't want to, np

levels very close so try to respond back to me on your status/willingness(mhd)

[harsh timber]

@real isle I think I won't be able to complete the run today

My car broke down on the damn highway

And I only have 7% battery left

[real isle]

send me ur info, ill do it

fast

[harsh timber]

Alright

[real isle]

ill get alteast 1 run in

maybe 2

idunno

[harsh timber]

Thank you thank you

Man

What a fking day

109 outside and I'm sweating like a mfk

[quartz saddle]

oh sweet we maintained <5% ranking the whole day

so am i crazy or if i buy the 3000 point purple cores is it 3k for 3 or 3k per each one

i hope its 3k for 3

[summer rune]

3k for 1

Mica isn't generous at all with purple cores, even on events

I don't think they would be with the guild either

3 is probably the max number of buy available

Just like the 5star gun

[cloud lichen]

sure I can wait

I'm in aventa's small guild now, so I can wait and chill with dorks

[quartz saddle]

how many points are we getting on average per day

not points sorry i mean guild exp

seems about 2500 exp a day

[real isle]

welp barely missed one run

i gto 2.3k on both for u @harsh timber

just do ur last one today

miseed the score save by like 30 seconds

If you want me to pilot you I can whenever just yk

Let me know an hr before reset

[real isle]

Okay thanks

@viral hill we can get you in today then

[rustic belfry]

@real isle how many queue for rhyme?

[real isle]

List is in pins

Its descending order

[real isle]

#1271116701290991657

Gonna be at work

If we level up while I'm gone lmk

I got people in vice who can add alicia and neko in

Aslong as they can join immed anyw

[rotund stratus]

this boss convinced me to save for v6 WA

i already have a decent bit saved up next rerun v6 wa will be mine

[quartz saddle]

got the 2nd gift box

[empty timber]

cbi?

[wide crypt]

how many gifts are there lol

it'll keep expanding

[real isle]

Cold Blooded Instinct

Effect from wa key

Applies on highest hp unit, prevents ice debuffs that wa uses on them but you get a damage increase

[summer rune]

oh, almost there

[rotund stratus]

this is 1/30th of a ppsh dupe right? and not a whole vertebrae upgrade?

[summer rune]

yeah its just 1

[rotund stratus]

yikes

this shi expensive

[summer rune]

i bought it hoping it

but it wasnt

[rotund stratus]

45000 coins for 1 dupe seems a bit excessive

[summer rune]

yeah, and youre only able to buy 5 too

like when are they going to sell her dupes again

next event might as well be a side character being sold instead of her

[rotund stratus]

they did promise you can fully v6 her from the guild system

so I imagine they will just keep refreshing her

[summer rune]

in 5 years

[rotund stratus]

lmao real

and there are better things like pulls to buy

[summer rune]

are the guild missions only those 3 things? the double mission and the daily one

didnt find any hud with more things

[rotund stratus]

yeah that's it

[summer rune]

sad, i cant really really beat bosses for now so i was hoping there were more things to do

[rotund stratus]

are you doing the mobs or the bosses?

if you can get higher than 800 on the boss it's better to just do the boss

[summer rune]

the boss is locked because im not lvl 60

[rotund stratus]

oof alr

[summer rune]

somehow im not last on the points but yeah

[rotund stratus]

there is a guy going in with a full lv60 team and somehow only getting 700 pts last time I checked

i don't even know how

you get more than that with full auto

[summer rune]

dont you get 800 just by killing all the mobs in 6 turns?

[rotund stratus]

no he did the boss

[viral hill]

TYTY

[rotund stratus]

blurred his name cause I didn't wanna be toxic lol

but like how does this happen

[viral hill]

reading is hard bro

[rotund stratus]

at least borrow a QJ instead of tololo

[viral hill]

yeah I borrowed a V5 tll yesterday

have to say while she does hit like a truck her extra turns still don't get more frequent

[summer rune]

dont be surprised if im the next one lol, my only character with decent damage is exactly tololo

[rotund stratus]

tololo is fine

but both of his teams had no cleanse

unless his Daiyan is V1

no cleanse = no damage for this boss

[obtuse rose]

the buff is wrong no expect extra damage

[visual flare]

Yellow gifts give 100

I haven't seen a way to get non-generic yellows yet tho

(though that would mean if the dork loves it, we could potentially get 175 bond per gift)

[rotund stratus]

you get them by farming regular mats

the purple one I think you have to pull from the new free gacha

blue ones come from daily and farming stages

[visual flare]

non-generic yellows specifically

oop

Zhaohui's giftbox I presume

I'm guessing these are the gifts she likes

BAHAHAHA

[wide crypt]

so that's how michael looks like

[proud flame]

I have quit the guild

lucky no promotion

[viral hill]

quited as well

[rotund stratus]

70 pts away from lv3

[mild grail]

oh its up

[rotund stratus]

[proud flame]

Ok i ll apply

@real isle

Applied

[rotund stratus]

don't think there is anyone on rn that can accept your application

u might have to wait a bit

[proud flame]

Just to give him a head up

[real isle]

@viral hill

just got home

also u guys didnt have to wait hwen u quit?

[viral hill]

coming

I don't think so?

[real isle]

you could just leave and join right away?

says u cannot leave and join on the same day so I guess it doesnt apply first time

[viral hill]

wasn't it the idea of the patchnotes?

[real isle]

that was the oldest patch note

they rushed it early but didnt mention if those conditions applied

[viral hill]

oh well time to find out

[real isle]

ya

i can tell brom

cause u guys did do gb

in the other guild

just not today

also lmk if u see chests/ can do mission aswell whenu join

[viral hill]

applied

Neko

[real isle]

kay ur both in

[viral hill]

I thought it was that your progress doesn't carry over and if you did the event you can't leave&join that day

[real isle]

so yea no cooldown for first leave quit/ and if u did guild battle the days before

@cedar field

[viral hill]

alright, tyty

took me 4 days to fix dat misclick but well

[cedar field]

Great, less bullshit to care about, ty

[real isle]

@sharp hedge could you do guild boss instead of mobs?

I think at your invest level you could do 1k+ on bosses

[cloud lichen]

yes, I did quite and join other guild in like 10 mins kek

[real isle]

guess u could get chest too

interesting

[viral hill]

yeah because I didn't get the chest before quiting

I think, according to the patchnotes I won't be able to quit if I did that

[real isle]

ya this will take like 3 days i guess

starting from now

next buff node

[viral hill]

will start bossing later, need to take care of a few things

[real isle]

thats uhhhh

[viral hill]

I mean ppsh beneftis from it

free dmg yay

[real isle]

ranged damage increase?

i think

yea

[viral hill]

aoe damage increase

[real isle]

ah

fkin useless

nvm

I always mix up aoe as ranged for some reason

next buff is 5-1

[viral hill]

wow straight 30%

that's pretty big

[real isle]

thats ST 30%

but yea thats like a week + from now

have to deal with some missed kills til then

[viral hill]

meh it's alright it's not like we are trying to take down whales or sth

I'll try a no healer comp today, we'll see

[real isle]

we are within 5% rn and its a little close

trying to make sure everyone atleast does 1k rn

on both runs

sides wewe cause they're busy

[proud flame]

@real isle can get daily mission, box, 2/2 tickets and rewards from guild progress

i didnt do anything today in the other guild as well

[cedar field]

Nice

[real isle]

ty

[empty timber]

i looked at it and thought it was the same dmg increase as applying frozen but then again i also dont have sig for it matter

[timber mesa]

Orz

Idk how to get over 2000 points in a run

[viral hill]

1. dispell 2) get ppsh to trigger the self-debuff on boss

3. the atk with warning, get wa/suomi/sharkry with her heal key to tank it

if the doll survives the shot with more than 60% HP you get another buff

[real isle]

tll dispell key kinda sick

[lavish dagger]

which key is that?

[real isle]

so she always dispells before attacking

so I could just use spam dps comp without having to use a support to pull qj to dispell first

could just attack with tll first, dispell goes off before her hit lands

then attack with everyone else

[lavish dagger]

u tank all the dmg with the 1st team?

[real isle]

ya

only bot died

at the last turn

which doesnt matter since its bugged anyway

any dmg it does doesnt count into ur points

90wish - ID:100849 (28/28)

[empty timber]

skipping tanking missile mechanic?

[viral hill]

as long as you have a healer you can tank everything

when I get lazy I don't even move my units

okay event adjustments

event duration is now 7 days and each battle grants you more stuff

[cursive herald]

So still needs 252 days to max out papasha

[viral hill]

welp I don't think I can do much better

[quartz saddle]

ah i think i can maintain about 5k points per day now

[viral hill]

yeah about the same

[brave birch]

[viral hill]

forgo I had to borrow ppsh in the 2nd try

should have borrowed QJ

[shrewd vine]

wow, my points suck today

wtf

[obtuse rose]

dont know but the boss seem more tanky or the buff is so bad

[shrewd vine]

prolly buff

[obtuse rose]

50% def ignore dif

[shrewd vine]

def ignore stronk

[cursive herald]

so it wasn;t just me being retard

[mental oxide]

god that was shit

[gritty minnow]

this boss needs to be a weekly

malding everyday to the end of days

[mental oxide]

I agree

[sharp hedge]

I dont quite have 2 full teams but I'm working on it

[rotund stratus]

Use your best team on the boss and your weak team on the mob maybe

[quartz saddle]

Each [Dust Frontline] season will be shortened to 7 days.

[empty timber]

i mean no healer

[real isle]

no i did the mech still

doesnt do That much damage

used WA to soak vuln and keep above 90% hp

she loses attack buff but its whatever since im not funneling damage to wa anyways

[empty timber]

🤔

[real isle]

cause u can soak cross

then hide in cover

sharky with heal key can primary tank for that team

only annoying thing this week is just setting it up where daiyan counters every turn

which for some reason u cant do as frontline everytime

one of the attacks is really bugged where if shes selected first for the "hits everyone with an attack" attack

she just wont counter it

unless everyone is on the same side or shes targeted later

[empty timber]

sounds hella sweaty

[real isle]

i think its only a problem if ur usuing v6 qiong, shark, wa and daiyan together

something to do with attack queue overload

cause mica programming (tm)

might be losing the counter due to how many actions just go off int hat instance

boss has to do 5 attacks, gets countered 3 times, hit by qj, hit by sharkry

daiyan counter just gets lsot somewhere

just dunno why if they are on the same side

like for example i just funnel everyone together on south

nothing goes wrong anymore

maybe cause the boss doesnt turn around idunno

its a bug for sure

[visual flare]

Boss: attacks

Team: So you have chosen, DEATH

it would be rather funny if certain FUAs could trigger twice in a single instance

[real isle]

whats a fua

[visual flare]

but alas

I'm too used to referring to them as follow up attacks

[real isle]

ah u mean support attacks

[visual flare]

support attacks sounds lame

follow ups though

[real isle]

follow up attacks would be accurate in the case of QJ cause she attacks after the attacker

but you have people like g36,suomi, dush who attack first

[visual flare]

and then I realize colph exists

whatever, follow up attack anyways

they follow up before the main attack, shrimple

[real isle]

they both calculate under the same definition so its whatever

but mechanically there is that queue difference

which id prob make distinct in terms

if it was me

[visual flare]

unfortunately I'm too stoopid to make heads or tails between them

sooo

it's all FUA to me

[raw sleet]

Anyone have slot

[quartz saddle]

hmm, if they reduce guild battle to 1 week a month than that is a lot more manageable but its also going to mean that missing any of those tries is going to have a huge impact

[cedar field]

Yep

That single week will have everything packed in

This really becomes theater but raid experience now

[quartz saddle]

almost lvl 6 now

[timber mesa]

None of what you said makes sense

Am I supposed to stand out in the open the whole time?

[visual flare]

if boss's AOE cross missile attack hits at least 6 things, he gets a 50% def debuff

so yes, stand out and take it like a champ

[timber mesa]

What about the attack with the warning that neko mentioned?

Oh wait, so it has to hit 6 enemies to get the 50% debuff

Welp

Guess I need to go level papasha

That's going to be another 2 weeks

[visual flare]

that one locks on to the closest dork to it

but it's delayed by a turn