Remove The AFKing in FFA

[hollow beacon]

If someone is afk, they aren't actively playing the game. Therefore, they should be kicked. Letting people afk in ffa inflates the player count leading to let downs when logging on. It says theres 10 people on? 2 people playing, 8 afk. It also inflates stats that should only be affected by gameplay. ik it sounds like i keep targeting aykoti lmao but he has afkd literally half a year's worth of time in ffa and gotten multiple tiers out of it. Whey should people even play the game(other than for enjoyement value) if they can just go afk 24/7 and get even better results. FFA should be treated like fastbridger: if you're afk, you get kicked and sent to the afk lobby. The difference is you dont increase your fastbridger pb or coins by afking. Someone could literally create a fresh account with 0 kills on ffa, leave it running on their computer, and under stable internet they could get on the leaderboard eventually by doing literally nothing. AFKing has always been a problem in ffa, and the addition of the afk lobby, I have now realized, has made it worse. Please remove it.

[misty prawn]

this is literally what i was saying when afk room came out

but zack said it wouldnt be a problem

and no one cares except me

[hollow beacon]

nearly also agrees

@verbal hearth

[verbal hearth]

throwing my name into the mix does not instally fix a issue

but i do agree that it’s actually bringing down new players

if i joined a server and no one was active i would leave pretty fast

also tiers used to mean something back when i was top of tier lb that was coz i actually played and was proud of it but now it’s just afk time

[hollow beacon]

i wanted ur upvote lmao

ur not that famous bro 😭

[dawn sail]

i love afk tho

well ye several player quit ffa cuz afk is more fun

[hollow beacon]

you should be banned for the amount of time youve afkd

like half a year is diabolical

u arent even close to being on the kil lb and yet ur #5 on the xp lb lmao

and its not even ur fault

iits an abusable system

[dawn sail]

it was so before afk added tho

well ye- it more increased now cuz afk

[hollow beacon]

i cant see shit

lmao

highest quality pic oat

that ss is from so long ago

back wehn autumn was qhashbro XD

long ass msg incoming

[verbal hearth]

sure buddy

[dawn sail]

this ss is feb 10 and afk room added march

[hollow beacon]

still send me drunk vns tho 😩

[verbal hearth]

i sent that to the chat

not to you

don’t mix it up

[verbal hearth]

switching to voice notes so i do the same is not going to work

[hollow beacon]

nah I was just too lazy to type ong

I hate typing so much

[verbal hearth]

same

especially when i’m drunk and can’t see or spell

it makes life so easy

[hidden turtle]

That’s a horrible argument if they didn’t add afk aykoti probs would be near top in kills

[lean swallow]

might be a little late but I totally agree with this, afk just inflates stats and makes the whole game mode feel dead to me. I miss the days before everyone just sat in the afk room.

[dawn sail]

OH NO THEY NERF AFK ROOM AND THEY REMOVED AFK LEADERBOARD

[manic venture]

RIP you LOL

[dawn sail]

now only 50xp per hour

[verbal hearth]

amazing

good job guys

we should not glorify afking for player count and the fact zack removed it is respectable as tbh

[misty prawn]

only good thing bro has done 🙏🏼

[verbal hearth]

💀 has to be ragebait

[misty prawn]

it snot

[verbal hearth]

the fact the server is still running and getting updates proves different

[misty prawn]

lol nearlycool more like stupid

[hollow beacon]

why did they nerf the afk lobby 😭 it doesnt even fix the afking problem itself it just gives less stats just remove it all the way bro😭. Also idk why they removved the lb it makes literally no sense

i mean its definetely a step in the right direction

but still

[misty prawn]

uoi arebzuzsnieba snsuie

[shell tide]

hashbro has done a lot of good things

[hollow beacon]

she's talking Abt Zack 😭

[misty prawn]

idiot

[hollow beacon]

@manic venture do yk if now its 25xp/30min or what

cuz b4 it was 100/hour so 50/30min

[manic venture]

It says it's 50 XP / hour now

So in effect, it is 25 / 30 minutes

I don't know if you'd receive 25 per 30 minutes though

[hollow beacon]

thats what i mean cuz before, u would get 50 xp every 3 minutes, but itr wouldnt accumulate over time, like if you afkd for 29mins u would get nothinmg

[manic venture]

Right

Well I can test for you lol

[verbal hearth]

they removed lb

which is good

coz it’s not a “flex” anymore

ik u might say how tf is asking a flex idk ask @dawn sail

[misty prawn]

yeah but it doesnt change the issue of inflating numbers

[dawn sail]

well

imma afk cya-

[lucid robin]

That's a bug

I'll fix the leaderboard

[dawn sail]

oh

tysm

[burnt gull]

Don’t you have 1 year of playtime alr?

[dawn sail]

almost 400day

[burnt gull]

Damn

[dawn sail]

and 150day is afk

[burnt gull]

250d prison

[dawn sail]

fr

[shell tide]

hashbro has done a lot of good things

[burnt gull]

whats the problem for people to afk?

its not like a crime or smth

[shell tide]

aykoti gained 5 tiers from afk-ing

[dawn sail]

nah

only 150×24×100xp

3.5 tier or somethin

[shell tide]

no

150x24x100

360,000 xp

divided by 750

480 levels

basically 5 tiers

plus u were tier 12 b4 afk got added

now ur 17

[dawn sail]

erm

750xp each lvl?

oh i thought its 1k xp or somethin

but isnt grinding more effective tho

also yall can afk too

afk room isnt for only me

why dont u

[burnt gull]

Agreee

Buff afk room

[burnt gull]

I mean it took her 150+ days to do so

[lean swallow]

thats still insane

[hollow beacon]

bro why did Nick and the bracket commands break again 😭😞

[hollow beacon]

yeah but it requires literally 0 effort. people can afk for days straight and constantly get stats out of it. like yea it's less stats but you can't play 24/7 but you can afk 24/7

[dawn sail]

ok so why dont u

[hollow beacon]

cuz I actually wanna play the game and have fun, but when it says there's 15 ppl on I wanna join to play, only to find out that 3 ppl are actually playing, and 12 are afk. ppl have also been taking shots at you cuz ur the person that's been afking the most, but it's not your fault, it's this broken system that should be removed because it inflates player counts and gives rewards for literally 0 effort

[dawn sail]

it increase actually playing ppl

also only few reward tho

it wont affect

[verbal hearth]

no

bro joins and insta leaves

that’s clearly shows afking is bad lmao

[dawn sail]

most of ppl go jump without check afk room

[misty prawn]

they jump and see theres no one actually playing THEN leave

[hollow beacon]

u got over 5 tiers from playing

give me the exact amount of days you afkd and I'll calculate I bet it's closer to 6 tiers

[hollow beacon]

or go afk, adding more to the problem

ffa always has had an afk issue،and I think the afk room is encouraging its worsening

[dawn sail]

several chain player try to find playing ppl even everyone afk fr

[hollow beacon]

they should kick afk players

if ur afk ur not playing

you shouldn't be shown as an active player

[misty prawn]

what?

[hollow beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/j-hope-choosing-bias-bias-gif-15080013

and again it's not your fault even

it's this broken ass system

[dawn sail]

nah cuz just my afk time is abnormality

[dawn sail]

ok then

how abt make other server and put afk pleyer into there

[misty prawn]

how about keep afk room but remove them from the active player count

@hollow beacon

[dawn sail]

like afk room at not same place

[hollow beacon]

well I mean that could work cuz they also nerfed it

like 50xp is fine

I guess

but I would rather it just gets removed

it's such a stupid idea when you really think about it

like you go to a designated spot and leave ur game running for hours

and get xp out of it

like it works on servers like donutsmo

but I think ffa players should have to, yk, PLAY

to get their stats

but I think the separation of player counts would help alot

not sure if that would even be possible

unless you get tpd after a few mins of being afk to a designated afk sub server

that would be cool

[dawn sail]

btw did devs made afk room for inflate player count or wha?

well

how abt give afk coin instead xp

and u can buy xp booster with afk coin

also add fightable npc in ffa

it will make playing player even 0 players in ground

and afk wont give "rewards for literally 0 effort" like yall says

but afk keep gib benefit

[verbal hearth]

why

like what is your obsession with afking

@dawn sail this whole time you never say why you actually afk

[misty prawn]

literally no person

reason

[dawn sail]

cuz

afk is

better than ffa

[verbal hearth]

everyone has a reason

[misty prawn]

bro ts isnt a reason

[dawn sail]

#1427469172610175047 message

[verbal hearth]

why don’t you just not play? i’m not trying to be rude i’m genuinely curious

[misty prawn]

bro what does that answer

[dawn sail]

erm

[verbal hearth]

@dawn sail why even play minecraft if you just afk

is that not a waste of electricity

[dawn sail]

i playing mc with other acc while afking

[misty prawn]

but why

[verbal hearth]

you fail to acknowledge the question aykoti

[dawn sail]

idk?

[misty prawn]

and why do you pretend to be a cat

[verbal hearth]

autumn i think they rage bait better then you

[dawn sail]

meow

[misty prawn]

bro

[verbal hearth]

do you even enjoy minecraft?

[misty prawn]

i dont like you

[dawn sail]

ye ye

on other acc

[misty prawn]

r u a furry

[dawn sail]

just aykoti for afk

[misty prawn]

or nah

[dawn sail]

sob

[dawn sail]

im real cat so nah

[misty prawn]

ok so ur like

ok

[verbal hearth]

how many servers do you afk on?

[misty prawn]

6..7

[dawn sail]

idk 5 or 6 or somethin

[misty prawn]

so u have a monster pc

[dawn sail]

nope

[verbal hearth]

damn bl really your side hoe

i can’t even name 6 servers anymore

[dawn sail]

[dawn sail]

anyway how abt this?

[burnt gull]

Agree

[burnt gull]

I mean they added an afk room for a reason

It takes like 60+ days to tier up now

[hollow beacon]

i was also thinking that, not a terrible idea but not great

cuz it still ionflates the player count

i think mainly move it to a separate sub server

and then go from there

btw

since we are on the topic

when you say that you're a "rawringkidnapcat" do you mean you are rawring like the noise, or that you are a raw piece of jewelry that happened to become a kidnap cat?

[dawn sail]

and add unfarmable fightable npc

[dawn sail]

changed

[hollow beacon]

rawring was iconic tho 😭

and you didnt even answer my question

[dawn sail]

changed again

[dawn sail]

wha

[burnt gull]

Why are you guys even targeting aykoti?

Like it’s not her fault

She’s just using the games features

[misty prawn]

because shes the problem gang

[burnt gull]

..

[misty prawn]

okay, we're not "targeting" her we're using her as an example to show why the afk thing should be removed because aykoti shows what happens when you use afk room to its full power

[undone hazel]

@misty prawn has leveled up! (21 ➜ 22)

[burnt gull]

Makes sense

[hollow beacon]

I've said that at least 4 times lol

[burnt gull]

Mb

[hollow beacon]

nah ur good bro just don't want people to get the wrong idea

[hollow beacon]

7 people online, 7 people afk

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-is-this-john-malkovich-what-the-hell-what-is-going-on-gif-15731558

[dawn sail]

good

it was 0 online before afk room added

[hollow beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/sybau-lazerdim-lazerdim700-ld-sylau-gif-8872031861262125330

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-gif-12608206659263100219

[dawn sail]

hash potato

[hollow beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/potato-chips-fries-french-fries-potato-pooping-fries-gif-12423591946345467420

[dawn sail]

thats why potato is unhelthy

[burnt gull]

Kids are at school rn tho

[lean swallow]

hey I see myself

[misty prawn]

big mommy balls

[lean swallow]

smh

[plucky sage]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-squirrel-scared-afraid-omg-gif-5802963312668618110

[hollow beacon]

30 ppl on ffa rn

10 afk

1/3 of the ppl

arent even playing

[lucid robin]

nice so that means if the afk spot didnt exist we'd have 20 players in ffa. thanks for the scientific analytics breakdown 🤓

[verbal hearth]

that’s actually pretty good tbh

it’s more like when 7people are online and 0 down

[hollow beacon]

such a stupid system. like just think about it. you're giving players XP that they should be earning from kills in return for leaving their account on idle on a gamemode that should kick you for being afk

https://tenor.com/view/james-valdez-peter-gadiot-qots-qots1x11-queen-of-the-south-gif-22356019

[misty prawn]

yeah but it makes people think that peoplle are actually palying and it inflates the numbers

[lucid robin]

The amount of xp they gain is pretty low compared to if they were killing players, etc.

I'm usually open to feedback, but for the AFK rewards it seems pretty minimal, we even nerfed it a bit

I saw the feedback regarding it and tried nerfing it

Honestly AFK rewards aren't too common in 1.8, but in 1.21 they're very popular

[misty prawn]

canu respond to my ticket

[lucid robin]

Yes what ticket number is it? @misty prawn

[misty prawn]

2573

[dawn sail]

afk players make more active player by inflate fr

giv more xp

[hollow beacon]

first of all, its not just about the rewards, its also about the player count inflation. yea its not that big of a deal but there's no point in it being there. and if the rewards are minimal, why should it even exist? also, yes, it's only 50xp/hour. but let's say you leave your pc on for 24 hours. that's 1200xp. or in the old system, 2400. and since a level is 750 XP or 75 kills(not taking into account streaks) you would get 3.2 levels/day from afking. it would take 240 kills to get the same results, which in my experience would take probably about an hour, if not more, of gameplay. the whole idea is it doesn't make sense for you to get stats from just being afk. how does being afk contribute anything to deserve getting XP? it just seems like something meant to entice people into inflating the player stats, which is fine, I understand (if that is the case) why that could be beneficial to the server, but it's just misleading and annoying to players. at the end of the day it's not a big deal either way, it just doesn't make much sense why the afk lobby, or the ability to afk at all, even exists in the first place

[dawn sail]

24hr afk = 3hr play is good

why yall hates afk room

cuz giving xp for no effort?

cuz inflate players?

[misty prawn]

bro

respodn to my ticket

[verbal hearth]

he’s gone to voice notes he’s actually fed up

i honestly think nerfing it was w ,people going to afk anyway so it’s fine removing it is a bit much coz no one other then hash is complaining about it now

[verbal hearth]

aykoti you don’t play any more so it really does not effect you but imagine you log on and go to ffa due to it having 12 player however after jumping down no one is playing that’s just a very frustrating feeling it’s lowkey giving false hope to people

it’s more annoying then anything else coz let’s be honest no one gives a shit about leader board position anymore

it’s not been changed in over 2 years even with “ffa2” lb was never reset which is strange imo i feel like even if we have a “legacy lb” or smth it would be better and we reset all stats but i feel like og players would disagree with me

[misty prawn]

huh

[misty prawn]

im not mad im just disappointed ahh voice

[hollow beacon]

if you reset the lb, that would mean you have to reset everyone's stats. and i dont think there would be anything that would encourage quitting the game more than having all of your playtime and work gone to shit

[hollow beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wink-gotcha-you-tube-thanks-gif-19039548

[misty prawn]

discord suggested ahh gif

[hollow beacon]

ngl i just searhced facts in gifs and put the first one

[dawn sail]

if there r no afk room no one will join even no knowledge abt afk room ppl cuz 0 ppl in ffa

[hollow beacon]

its better for the player count to accurately display home many people are actively playing rather than it to look like its full

ngl i would rather they just move the afk room to a separate server

if they are going to keep it

and have it inflate the player couynt

at least dont inflate the ffa player count

like add an npc called "afk room" to ffa lobby

wheen you right click it sends you to a sub server

if not just remove it

cuz i still think getting stats for not doing anything is dumb

[dawn sail]

then ffa wont revive from 0 active cuz even non knoelwdge abt afk ppl wont join

ah ok then

how abt write real playing ppl count at scoreboard?

like

total playing: 12
in afk room: 9

yall just want know real playing ppl

[verbal hearth]

gang all severs do it

servers

idk like i said it’s just a idea

it’s fine if people disagree but in the 2 years ffa has been open only 4 players have held the number 1 spot which was vhanni (who botted) me aposestla and qdrugs

[verbal hearth]

[hollow beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[lucid robin]

ik 2 will be "inflated players"! "free levlesfor ppl who dont deserve it!"

and with that we could just consider decreasing it slightly making it harder for people to level up, or maybe include random rewards like 50% chance of getting xp, 50% chance of getting coins, 50% chance of receiving special item, etc

[hollow beacon]

shit

accidentaly pressed enter

hol up

1. "if the poeple werent afk there, i dont think theyd be playing the game" - if so, why should they be shown as part of the active player count.

2. YES IT INFLATES THE PLAYER COUNT

[hollow beacon]

3. you shouldnt earn stats by doing nothing

4. its just so unnecessary

[hollow beacon]

also why is 4 the magic number lol

like gng

ive given good points

ur just ragebaiting atp

oh shit

aykoti joins the conversation

[dawn sail]

give afk coin instead xp

[hollow beacon]

YES

[lucid robin]

i thyink this would work better

random rewards

[dawn sail]

and we can buy xp booster or somethin with afk coin

[lucid robin]

so that u dont just get stacked on coins, or xp

itll just be a random reward

[dawn sail]

i cant understand what yall says in voice msg so cya

[hollow beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/dpc8-vlog-deaf-gif-18864316

[lucid robin]

ok i get the inflated players tbh but

butttttt how are you gonna agree to switch it to coins instead? It's going to have the same effects you’re complaining about in the first place

[hollow beacon]

since you removed the ability to buy egaps theres not that big of an advantage given by having a lot of coins. yes it will raise your spot on the coin lb, but lets say you give 50 coins/hour that wouldnt discourage playing and encourage afking because people play for xp and kills not coins

idk

bro

just do whatever you want atp

just keep it

in fact

rebuff it back to 100/hour

and give qautumn 1mil

she wants it

and also

maybe give me youtube rank

[dawn sail]

they dont love giving rewards for no effort so give "afk coin" instead xp and we can buy xp booster with afk coin this good idea fr

[hollow beacon]

anything to get out of actually playing the game

[dawn sail]

but not 0 effort

[hollow beacon]

honesty @lucid robin the afk lobby isnt rlly that important rn given the fact that theres a bunch of glitches in ffa so honestly thats not even a top priority atp im starting not to care as much so just do what you think is best

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-i-dont-know-who-knows-beats-me-davesmall-gif-12462178

[dawn sail]

100xp/hour

[verbal hearth]

nah coins would be chill

most of my time playing i had over 1mil coins rn i got like 400 k after getting the cosmetics legit nothing gives a big advantage in shop

[verbal hearth]

what other glitches? the ones i care about are the dumb creates breaking the map 247 i dont really know any other ones that change anything

[misty prawn]

i suggest removing the afk room

[lucid robin]

ay man thas wat u doing

[lucid robin]

give me a list of bugs and we'll fix them

[misty prawn]

the tab list is brokne

[hollow beacon]

the bracket commands ([kills], [ping], etc.) dont work, emojis dont work

i think theres some other shi i cant remember

[misty prawn]

wow so helpful

[hollow beacon]

aks the mods they know

i listed more than u smartass

[misty prawn]

well he asked u

[hollow beacon]

jk autumn ❤️

[misty prawn]

what about the anti cheat @lucid robin shouldnt u get that working before fixing anything else

[hollow beacon]

also check reports

crazy as hacker

[misty prawn]

its me hashrbo

dont snitch

[hollow beacon]

oh yea @lucid robin also theres ts

ranks dont show in stats

so gamebreaking ik

[dawn sail]

[hollow beacon]

but its a bug nonetheless

[hollow beacon]

uhhhh not my alt btw

just happened to use them as an example

is that your alt or what?

i keep seeing them

[dawn sail]

@plucky sage

[hollow beacon]

aint no way they ahve dc too

imma dm them

[dawn sail]

they will mate with u

[misty prawn]

u are a weird human being

a very weird one

[hollow beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/mewhengoon-goon-awooga-gif-15322208845596071762

[misty prawn]

with some weird kinks

[dawn sail]

meow

[misty prawn]

really weird ones

personally i dont htikn ou should be in a minecraft discord full of children

yeah ok

[dawn sail]

[misty prawn]

they just send a corn emoji

really odd right

i mean you cant get any weirder

[grim gyro]

yo i got news for you

[hidden turtle]

Gangy you crying about a cosmetic stat that does not matter after p2. Also either way people still afked at spawn before the room.

The only bad thing about the afk room is that most times you feel trapped to stay there for the full 30m or you don’t get your reward. Idk why it’s that way I have like days worth of afk with like 1 level to show for it.

[burnt gull]

To

Yo

What news

[hollow beacon]

listen smart ass, I'm saying there shouldn't be ANY afking in ffa. theres no reason for it. afkers get kicked in fastbridger, they should also be kicked in ffa, or at least be sent to a separate afk area not part of ffa

and honestly it's getting to the point that not many other people want it removed and Zack doenst wanna remove it either so im starting to not care as much and honestly they can do whatever

I'm done arguing the same points over and over

[hidden turtle]

Listen dumb ass, why does a player sitting still annoy you so much. You see nobody is playing just leave and play something else. Either joining ffa and seeing players not playing or seeing ffa has 0 players you would still get the same feeling.

[shell tide]

hi

[hidden turtle]

Hi

[shell tide]

bye

[hidden turtle]

Bye