OLD OR CURRENT FFA? AND WHY

[winter root]

hi

guys

guys

hi

ha

ha

guys

guess what

uh

hi

[keen obsidian]

1000 replies! halfway there @lone shoal

[silk bough]

"i cant fly it a glitch"

[winter root]

ffa 1 :yes:

[crisp fable]

true

[mental rune]

THIS JIST REACHED 1000 MESSAGES

[crisp fable]

best ss guys

[trim hound]

lighting down there xd

[trim hound]

@gloomy patio make it icl

best part of it

[gloomy patio]

aint no shot blud has hitboxes on bl ffa

[trim hound]

man wanna KNOW if he missed

[silk bough]

i have it on for all gamemodes

[crisp fable]

we keeping these in the books

[trim hound]

thats a wallpaper

what didnt u go in f1

[crisp fable]

uhm

i forgor

[silk bough]

best players in the ss rn

[gloomy patio]

im not there tho

[crisp fable]

um

im not there

[silk bough]

oh sht my bad

[gloomy patio]

nah buddy u aint even in the top 10k

[balmy oar]

3rd one goes crazy

[gloomy patio]

if only i was in f1

[crisp fable]

im on all 3 leaderboard

im just that cool

would be cool if i was 1st on any of them 😦

[silk bough]

LMAO

[gloomy patio]

fr

get back to grinding

[mental rune]

GIVE PIICKLEY HACKER

[plain silo]

Guys, going back isn't an option here, sure it was more fun before. But I think this version has more potential. We need to improve this version in my opinion. At this time I believe the gamemode is just unfinished rather than boring. Going back will be better short term, but in the long term I truly think we should stay with what we have and expand on that.

See I agree here with the first part, but we gotta learn how to let go. We can't just add prestiges and call it a day maintenance wise. We need to add stuff that's fun for the community and balanced. Staying stuck in the past is therefore in my opinion not an option.
It's like Winston Churchill said during the 2nd World War: "If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future."

Skygrid +1

[lone shoal]

+1

[muted jackal]

Old one ig i had so many good memories there

[lone shoal]

Good memories does not mean it's good.

[plain silo]

@muted jackal

[muted jackal]

honestly idc they make no difference to me

both are okay

[plain silo]

But look towards the future

It's not all so black and white.

[lone shoal]

We will always glorify old FFA because the average bridgerland player needs something to complain about

I loved old FFA but that does not mean the new one is shit

[plain silo]

No, but it has lots of room for improvement

[quick field]

If old ffa back, there must be more ppl come to play like used to

i think🤔

Actually there’s other good player join ffa but they just play the new one, old one can let them more able to show their skills not just rely on speed pot and other strange pot, if the old ffa back, ogs might back and can discuss with those good players in new ffa. In my opinion, bring back the old one will better than keep the new one

[sand mirage]

@quick field has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[trim hound]

lots is a word

[plain silo]

Your point?

[trim hound]

i agree with that but the all the current kits are not balanced out at all the way old ffa was ppl had the same gear or similar and in my opinion fights were more winnable

i was 2nd tier armour and could beat dia gear ppl most of the time

becuase there was no speed 2 or pot spam or bow spam

just normal pvp

ffa2 can obviously be changed to be better im not saying that but it needs a dire rework of at least new fair kits

hence why we started saying just bring back ffa1 thats just my take on this tho

i defo agree with your point tho i just always prefered ffa1 for pvp

[plain silo]

It's an opinion that se can't predict. Is it better for the future to go back, or improve on what we have?

[trim hound]

i mean thats a good question that nobody can answer which is a shame

but it has been made clear what we would rather

in my opnion ffa1 was just better for pvp in general thats why i would wanna see it back anyway

[trim hound]

just thought of this @plain silo what if we used this idea and inproved ffa1 for the future like have dif gear or dif swords or smth

or new power ups since kits wont be around

[plain silo]

You're asking for option 3: ffa3

[trim hound]

if its possible ill will gladly and willing take ffa1

it was amazing

but if the staff team wants to future proof it then it might have to happen

[plain silo]

It is true that most people chose to go back, but did they really think about it? Or just follow the group, I bet you at least 1/3th of them weren't there when ffa1 was a thing and just want to be a part of it all.

[trim hound]

they have nothing to compare it to tho

[plain silo]

Think of me as an other community member, I in no way speak for the staff team. Neither do I speak for the server.

[trim hound]

ah alr sorry

[plain silo]

Nw, just wanted to make that clear.

[trim hound]

they have have done it to try something new

since they have never tried it before

also old ffa actually can show people skill more without them being carried by speed 2

[plain silo]

I do agree with this, but do we want it to be purely mc skills? I would love there to be more behind it. Like strategies, something you learn over time.

Something different than blindly clicking on your mouse buttons, killing every person you see.

[trim hound]

i see you but thats how it is now

assassin is what that is and the speed 2 makes it worse than ffa1

[plain silo]

Yes, but less, definitely if we balance it out a bit more and add a few kits.

[trim hound]

my take on this is ffa1 teaches u to be more careful and time your hits more to live longer it taught me how to use movement more effectively since ppl were more geared than me

it also can show how to better use a rod and snowball since the target is moving at a more slow pace

[plain silo]

Yes, but it's too plain. Too easy.

[trim hound]

again ffa both in general could use some tweaking to make it less plain

if ffa1 did ever make a comeback it could defo could be tweaked to make it less plain for ppl

i dont know how yet i havent thought that far ahead xd

im just sick of fighting people just to get pot spammed mid fight or to be fighting an assassin kit then they run and i cant catch them since they an outrun and outpearl me or just getting bow spammed ffa1 didnt have these issues

been cool talking to u tho @plain silo ur chill

[plain silo]

Alright so here's the options I would like to give to Bridgerland:

1. Revert the update and go back to the old ffa. Is a huge risk but could work out.
2. Don't revert, and work towards the future. If you do this, you will have to work hard to get everything balanced amd enjoyable. You'll have to take action, as @bleak haven nicely stated in #1242967367475138631

[trim hound]

i agree with u on both accords but this issue with having kits is a huge risk in of itsself to balance aload of kits is insanely hard as u cant account for how people will use them in pvp

without kits is less risky as people have the same stuff so instead u can focus on the actul game like maps, rewards, powerups since people will have the same stuff

[plain silo]

That's where the trial and error technique comes in.

[trim hound]

ah yea

[trim hound]

i do still think that option 1 will still have the better effect on ffa players as a whole but again thats just my 2 cents on it

since if u look at the votes in #🌐︱polls most of the ppl that voted yes were players that tried both ffas

[plain silo]

It's very true, but I think the nostalgia factor plays a role here too much.

But, let's see how people think after reading our conversation.

[silk bough]

yall talk too much fr

mr yappers

[rigid beacon]

yes cuz

idk it was just

better

[trim hound]

Nah ong I don't want it back due to nostalgia just I loved how PvP felt and how satisfying it was to kill people since they had more gear, how when u actually got speed 2 from a power up it felt like u actually got something good, when FFA had 40+ players on most days and loads more

[plain silo]

Bad reasoning

[rigid beacon]

shut up ur a helper

jk illy

i mean it was good cuz it was simple

u didn't have all these kits n all

u just fall down and left click ppl

and also cuz there were more people back then that made it more fun compared to now

[plain silo]

If you wanna do that go play prison 🙂

[plain silo]

Now this is a good point

[rigid beacon]

ye but its not something yall can change at once

changing the kits or changing the playstyle is something yall can do but the playerbase doesn't change instantly

so it's still not rlly that good of a suggestion

that yall can use

[plain silo]

It takes time, that's why we gotta look in the long term, and not search for a short term solution like just reversing all changes

[rigid beacon]

type

[worn spoke]

Wsp

[bleak haven]

I appreciate you referencing my suggestion!

[keen obsidian]

True, and i def agree agree that we need stuff to stay fresh, but i believe that the changes made by ffa2 make it inferior to how it was in ffa1. Its not necessarily that we shouldnt continue to change it, but more of the qualities of the changes themselves and how they affect the experience of it, which you and me would evidently disagree on considering your solution is ffa2 and mine is revert to ffa1.

I think it really just depends on what you think ffa1 and ffa2 is. You could argue that that we arent making it go back to ffa1, but rather just making ffa2 more like ffa1, since undoubtedly they will continue to add minor changes back to ffa1 that make it slightly different fromt he original.

[mental rune]

I think we should ask ai

[keen obsidian]

i just did and it basically just said "idk it sounds like a complex situation"

[mental rune]

We should flip a coin

Heads is new ffa

[keen obsidian]

what if we just make me owner of bridgerland and i solve all problems

[trim hound]

Real honestly idc what happens just remove kits as a whole

[charred owl]

Delete ffa all together

[plain silo]

I'm all for it

[plain silo]

That's one way

[plain silo]

But this is also an option

[winter root]

no

bad idea

ALL coins flips are rigged

[plain silo]

Idc about that slight rig

[silk bough]

dl

[torpid garden]

Why are they changing FFA

[crisp fable]

There is like 1k msgs in this chat

but the short of it is a lot lot of people want old ffa

from #🌐︱polls

[torpid garden]

1. Never see half of these people on

The only bad thing about current ffa is the maps and nick

Changing that would make it so much better

[crisp fable]

I would say quite a large of people who did vote in said polls are pretty well known

but thats not the point

people say kits are unfair

makes the game too hard

[torpid garden]

I fine with everything other than removing kits

[crisp fable]

and speed 2 is really bad

[torpid garden]

???

Remove speed and give it more armor

[crisp fable]

(this is just from what ive picked up on from reading this chat not my own believes)

[crisp fable]

whats the point of kits then

then all the kits would be the same?

[torpid garden]

So they having be hinting on kits for like 4 months just to remove

Ok

Time to grind cause you can’t pass someone that is active with only 100 kills a day

[crisp fable]

well the issue is we have kits on ffa

and it seems like the larger player base does not like them/ what they are now

[torpid garden]

If it goes back then everyone start hating about armor being to expensive

[crisp fable]

I saw that a bit you are right

[torpid garden]

It easier for a player to join right now and get kill than normal ffa

[crisp fable]

but most people that played got amour like everyone else did

[crisp fable]

which people say that means its less skill full

and more based in luck

of 2vs1 or speed 2 people who run

[torpid garden]

Just saying after a few months it going to change back after everyone leaves

Wait they having two servers

[crisp fable]

uhm

thats not fully known yet

but i think the whole server base is anti 2 servers

[torpid garden]

Why if they going to one server they could careless on what happens

How much was armor like 40k no normal person is grinding that

[crisp fable]

Most people had amour at the end

[torpid garden]

They are mostly doing it for player count and to get new players

Which one would be harder to max

A kit or full armor

Ok fair

[crisp fable]

???

no hel was 10k

iron chest was 40k

diamond was i swear 80k

[torpid garden]

So more expensive

Yeah

But i was talking like what a normal person can get and play the game normally

[crisp fable]

Assasin

lv 2 (30,000 COINS + TIER 2):

Sharp I Diamond Sword (Base Damage: 8.25) → Sharp II Iron Sword (Base Damage: 8.5)

lv 3 (40,000 COINS + TIER 4):

Speed II Potion Refill → Perm Speed II Effect (need dev’s update)

Golden Leggins → Chain Leggins (armor +0.5)

lv 4 (45,000 COINS + TIER 6):

Snowball 8x → Snowball 16x

Pearl Count: 2 → 3

you have to be tier 6

to max out assasin

and spend 120k coins

its legit the same amount

well close to it

yep

i mean im tier 8

and ive played for a very long time

what does that mean? 😦

[echo harbor]

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[mental rune]

Guys old or new ffa

[plain silo]

Exactly

It's the wrong decision

We goingf for new ffa

[silk bough]

it really doesnt matter

i think there just asking for new maps and

and kits to be fix

[plain silo]

That's easy to say, but it definitely does.

[trim hound]

Fr?

Dang

[plain silo]

Bro as I said

I don't speak for the team

neiether for the sever

I'm just a memberr

[trim hound]

Still think ffa1 is the better option icl

Or smth similar to it

[plain silo]

what is your Ign?

[winter root]

its not about the people that play a lot

its about the people that we want to come to ffa

what they want

[trim hound]

Kieran

[winter root]

because

ffa is dead

[trim hound]

Kiercn I meant @plain silo

[winter root]

so we need what new players want as well

[plain silo]

That's a very good arguement, and I don think new ffa with more work will be better for this

[silk bough]

bro just wants to kill more ppl

[plain silo]

Ah ye I know you

[plain silo]

Oh trust me I barely play this ffa

[trim hound]

Real

[silk bough]

not you autumn

[plain silo]

mb

[winter root]

?

no

[silk bough]

you play bridge right?

[winter root]

if theres more people

it makes the game more fun

because you arent just fighting the same people

[trim hound]

Ppl quit because ffa2 was so bad lmao

[silk bough]

thats why i said you want to kill more ppl

[trim hound]

Idk how autumn plays it so much

[silk bough]

24 hours a day

[winter root]

i dont anymore i just sit in spawn lmao

[silk bough]

jp

[plain silo]

They did, yes. But we gotta figure out why it was so bad and work on it.

[winter root]

bc speed two is unfair

and half of the new players

didnt know how to change its

ktis

[trim hound]

Speed 2, unbalanced kits, assassin is broken asg

[winter root]

so they were stuck with a stupid ass kit

and assassin kits just three tapped them

thats just not fun

[plain silo]

Alright, there we ahve somethign to work onn

[trim hound]

They can outrun and put pearl u

Just remove speed as a whole

[silk bough]

you keep talking about assasin kit

[trim hound]

Boom

[plain silo]

Do you believe that it's the kits right now or the whole idea is bad?

[trim hound]

Yes I am it's the main issue

[silk bough]

its not

u just dont like it

thats it

[trim hound]

With the current state test

[winter root]

main issue is that theres no players playing

[trim hound]

Ranking bro

Don't get my started

Me

[silk bough]

staryt

start

now

[plain silo]

I'm talking about the concept of diffrent kits

is that good, orn ot

[trim hound]

Ight lemme log on my pc

So I can type

[plain silo]

bet

[silk bough]

this mf

[plain silo]

or last convo I was on my phone, it did annoy me so I can see why

[trim hound]

right les get it

[silk bough]

apo said default

[sand mirage]

@silk bough has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[silk bough]

see

default broken to

too

[plain silo]

Do we truly want to go back to a boring 1 kit system?

[silk bough]

bros yapping

omg

[plain silo]

ye he's onto something

[winter root]

its obviously not boring

beecause more players played then

[trim hound]

assassin is the issue becuase of the speed 2 on a laggy hitreg server the hit boxes cant keep up with the speed which causes more ghost hits, they can outrun and outpearl u and becuase of the hitbox issue whi9ch they literally cant fix speed 2 kits are prone to getting more lag hits than any other kit currentl;y

[trim hound]

also yes

just remove the kits

a

[plain silo]

Ýes but don't you agree that this is more fun, more creativity, techniques, and strats

[trim hound]

she didnt play then

[silk bough]

yea

[plain silo]

Okay, we got somethign to work on

[winter root]

nah

kits are boring

because

assassin

[trim hound]

just get ridda kits

[winter root]

can 3 shot

[trim hound]

PLEASE

[winter root]

people

and pots

can spam two

and hit them once

dead

[trim hound]

YES

[winter root]

and archer kit

[trim hound]

YES

[winter root]

is just plain awful

default

cant die

[trim hound]

@plain silo now your understanding

[plain silo]

Okay, but what about the long run

Do you think a 1 kit system will work towards the future

[trim hound]

be honest the staff team finna tweak stuff at somepoint

they always dop

or they will leaver ffa alone for anotehr year#

who knows

[winter root]

well more then one obviously wont

bc theres 5 players on ffa rn

taht arent afk

[plain silo]

Ah yes, so what do we do about htat? updates and events

[trim hound]

before ffa2 it was 5 to 6x that

[plain silo]

That's easily fixable

[silk bough]

ffa is like hypixel bw all over again

player base doesnt know what they want

[winter root]

some youtuber needs to promote ffa

[trim hound]

nonono

@silk bough we know what we want alr

6x lead still

[plain silo]

I'm a proud cross person

[silk bough]

that dosnt me anythibng to nme

[trim hound]

IM A PROUND SPEED 2 HATER

RAHHHHHH

[silk bough]

bro talk about the default kit

[trim hound]

ight

[plain silo]

Alright I won't go much into discussion anymore It's late, just keep in mind what I said.

It's not that I'm bias or anythiong, I used to be a leaderboard player in ffa1, and stopped playing right when ffa2 started

so gn

[trim hound]

default is also an issue since it can tank for hits than every other kit in the game

thats the only issue

[trim hound]

gn buddy

[winter root]

just remove diamond gear

[trim hound]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

and speed 2

[winter root]

and bows

because

those things

are annoyign

[plain silo]

ez fix I hear?

[winter root]

well

if you remove speed two

whats the point of assassin kit

[trim hound]

YES

just get rid of the kits

[silk bough]

bro said 1k

[trim hound]

bang

ez fix goodbye kits

get events to earn rewards for ppl who want to grind

like tags or coins or whatnot

[silk bough]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[trim hound]

and just have normal iron gear with a stone or iron sword

[silk bough]

he cooking

[trim hound]

ITS SIMPLE

PPL JUST ARNT WAKING UP

@plain silo

hows that

[plain silo]

Ironic, I just said I was going to bed 🛌 😴

[plain silo]

Good idea ye

Apart

From the kits goodbye part

Anyways don't ping gn

[trim hound]

enless u revamp and i mean revamp them it snot finan work

[plain silo]

NO PINGING

[trim hound]

i didnt ping!

i just replied

didnt know that pinged'

[plain silo]

Bro nvm gn

[crisp fable]

Gn

[plain silo]

Fgs

I hate you nearly

[torpid garden]

Was told to do this

[crisp fable]

ill speak to you tomorrow

[mental rune]

We should flip a coin but both heads and tails are Skygrid

[keen obsidian]

this is the only genuinely intelligent point made thus far

[balmy oar]

why speed 1

speed 1 but keeping kits just makes assasin useless

@lusty musk

[trim hound]

dont ping btw

they dont like it

but

[plain silo]

Then don't team yourself.

Teaming is a choice.

[plain silo]

Too new, my name isn't on there

[trim hound]

just relised that bgbqn was a non

has cypber been a mod since forever?

[gloomy patio]

yes

[undone wharf]

OLD FFA

[winter root]

light striker has a valid comment for once

[undone wharf]

Thank you.

[plain silo]

Now give me an essay on why.

[tame citrus]

I am drawn between what Ayli said (if I read it correctly);

I think reverting back to FFA1 is good provided thats the majority opinion, but it’s worth making it clear it would never stay in that point. It would never be reverted, and then never receive new content updates. It would always grow and advance, so in time, it wont be FFA1 anymore but preferably itd be much more like that version.

Ayli is right, we all need to grow and looking at the nostalgia of a gamemode has been the downfall of many popular servers, we need to let it grow but its important that as a community we express the changes we want, and the changes we dislike.

This is why its important to address whats so wrong with FFA2, because otherwise we may end up repeating it.

I’ve seen many people complain about balancing the kits, this is definitely something we could do quite easily, this wouldnt warrant a full revert of the gamemode.

People do not like kits all together, and frankly I agree personally Id much rather save my coins and build myself up than just max a kit, and I think if we all brainstorm a substitute we can make this happen.

We do need a fresh pair of eyes, and thats the main point of this thread. The point isnt just to say you dislike the new ffa, and say that we’d rather ffa1 back. We need to grow, and you guys play it more than anyone and can tell us exactly the type of gameplay you liked from each versions so we can atleast mix it in and make everyone happy

If Zack and Bedless brings it to the Admin team about what were going to do, I am all for bringing FFA1 back but I want there to still be some changes. We cant just sit on FFA1 and leave it.

[plain silo]

Thank you for summarizing my points, I agree with everything in here 🙌.

[keen obsidian]

This. Its not about reverting back to ffa1, but rather taking away the things in ffa2 that the community feels are bad features, and then grow from there. It will always remain ffa2, but rather just change what ffa2 is. As time goes on it probably will start too look more like ffa2 than ffa1, but the point is to simplify and regain what was lost in ffa1.

[tame citrus]

I missunderstood but appreciate the ghost ping

<3

[gloomy patio]

I think ppl who played ffa1 prefer the fights that took place with that pvp style, ffa2 has a fast time to kill (ttk) which means u die a lot more to random ppl hitting you in the back and to 2v1s, the kits now are majority split between default and assassin kit with few using the other two, the problem with this is that the assassin kit 3 shots itself and low lvl default kits. I think removing the assassin kit is also not a perfect solution as the other two kits are very gimmicky and Alchemist is far too op to have, a re-working of new kits with default is obviously the best and next logical option.

[tame citrus]

Both are logical, but I have noticed a lot of people don't want kits altogether, it's not just about the OP style of the kits or balancing them but people actually enjoyed the older way of armor and stuff like that. I do agree with you though, the style of pvp now is very quick pased to the point where you often don't even realize how you died (because you were getting jumped) which is irritating.

[gloomy patio]

yeah but the problem with the old style is it was not great for new players

diamond armour was so op i could easily win 3+v1s without even thinking

even with the nerf of only dcp

[keen obsidian]

alchemist is WAY too op

[trim hound]

honestly im fine with that all i liked about ffa1 is how the pvp felt fights didnt end within 2 seconds and took some skill to win, and i even said that the staff team would most likely tweaking it up abit at the point in someway which im 100% fine with

[trim hound]

then they would just tweak the gear abit

[winter root]

tf happened to ffa

[mental rune]

Revert back to Skygrid

[mental rune]

So you’re saying that the reason for reversion even being considered is in large part because of factors like nostalgia and dislike for the current state of ffa?

And that instead of complete reversion, rather some kind of overhaul in the kits system

Which also allows for further progress in ffa2 moving forward

Here’s an idea:
What about a universal armor that everybody starts at when they come into ffa, and with the more kills they get, the more each individual armor piece levels up. The max level would be 100- where the armor would be kitted with enchants that can be applied every 20 levels. After level 100, the armor would no longer be able to be upgraded anymore. In addition to this, to remove an enchantment, some amount of coins would have to be paid. This whole system would also be applied to swords and bows and stuff.

Kind of like one big kit

I doubt this is a good idea- I never play ffa, but from what I’ve read the kind of substitute that you mention does seem like a good idea

Reversion back to Skygrid is without a doubt a good idea and everyone absolutely does and will agree with that

Another ingenious idea is to replace ffa with your much more popular game mode prison

I mean it’s basically the same game the only difference being that it’s blocks you click on not players

[storm herald]

me and bedless have already been working on ffa1, the plan right now seems to be that we will just make 2 servers, and allow players to play on each
Free For All 1
Free For All 2

we plan to move all ffa2 stats to ffa1, so that means everyone will have the same exact stats on both servers, and they can from there choose whatever to play on, and then stats will add as normal, if you play ffa1 it'll add stats on ffa1, vice versa

[keen obsidian]

Just to make sure im understanding, stats gained on ffa1 wont transfer to ffa2, and vice versa?

[stable tiger]

I said this (partly)
People hated it

[trim hound]

^^^^^^^^

[plain silo]

No. Please don't do 2 separate servers, that'll only devide the community or show that one gamemode that may be better or worse for the server dies.

If they do both work well you'll have more to maintain. Which already is an issue with less servers to maintain.

[trim hound]

ayli has a point deviding the community will only cause more issues and more work since u have to maintain 2 gamemodes at the sametime

please just make 1 server

[sand mirage]

@trim hound has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[mental rune]

I think it’d be pretty cool

[torpid garden]

How about this remove kits and make a whole different concept and name it ffa3 because we can’t decide on one thing.Also it’s almost time for ffa’s yearly update and also making 2 different servers is a horrible idea.

[mental rune]

Here’s an idea:
What about a universal armor that everybody starts at when they come into ffa, and with the more kills they get, the more each individual armor piece levels up. The max level would be 100- where the armor would be kitted with enchants that can be applied every 20 levels. After level 100, the armor would no longer be able to be upgraded anymore. In addition to this, to remove an enchantment, some amount of coins would have to be paid. This whole system would also be applied to swords and bows and stuff.

Kind of like one big kit

[undone wharf]

2 Servers I agree would tear it apart from each other and it would make both less popular and I'm personally thinking about quitting with a couple other people because of the fact its just not as popular, as when it came out and people who grinded just keep getting new players seeing as a redo for the FFA would be better and not opening the new would be nice to take some time to get more people to join.

❤️

[gloomy patio]

then that has the problem that all high lvl players win no matter what

[undone wharf]

Yes

If you restarted it it would be best so everyone would have a fair chance

[mental rune]

🤔🤔

How do you fix that?

[gloomy patio]

idk

cause having no gear lvling is also not a solution

ig that comes with balancing

making it not super op to have maxed gear

but also worth the grind

[mental rune]

Like prot 2 iron for max

And all else is chain mail

[gloomy patio]

i like how def gear is now

cause you do have more armour but its only 2 hits i think

from other def

[mental rune]

From what I’ve read some people don’t

On the other hand

[gloomy patio]

remember ffa1 with dcp

[mental rune]

Skygrid would be a solution to both of these isdues

[gloomy patio]

you could not lose

[mental rune]

What is dcp

LJ FOR MOD

[gloomy patio]

dia chestplate

[mental rune]

ok

[gloomy patio]

blud have you seen my punishment history 💀

[mental rune]

I don need to

#ljformld

Mod

[gloomy patio]

i dont think i can with 5 bans

[mental rune]

You’ve already banned 5 people?

See

I know you would be a good mod

[gloomy patio]

6 bans nvm

[mental rune]

Even better!

[gloomy patio]

only 7 mutes

this server is to nice to me

14 warns

[mental rune]

And muted 7 people!

Without even a rank

Such a talented staff member you are

[gloomy patio]

fr fr

[undone wharf]

LJW7 you should be a Mod

[stable tiger]

ffa4 when

[woven kettle]

can we make a battle royale mode

please zackaraira

[tame citrus]

In my opinion we shouldnt split it, because it feels like its only happening so theres less of a disappointment for those like ffa2, but with all due respect I havent seen a player who likes the idea of splitting it.

Its my opinion that if we do it, were only half listening to the players and not actually listening to them.

I am pretty against having 2 ffa’s

[plain silo]

Same

[storm herald]

@lusty musk

ok so 1 ffa, and just removing all the kit stuff

also going to be transparent, right now "Refunding" coins to people with kits currently is not looking too good, not sure if it's going to be possible

[gloomy patio]

💀

[keen obsidian]

💀

[torpid garden]

Your rich why do you care

[crisp fable]

The rich stay rich with greed

[trim hound]

thats fine honestly

makes more things to grind for

[torpid garden]

Good morning, I have seen the hatred of kits and the want of change. If you will be making changes please consider removing the 2x coins event. As it has done nothing useful to the players. The kb event was more fun then have the 2x coins events. Every time I see the 2x coin event I get very sad. Please make this change.

[stable tiger]

"kb event was more fun"
BOOO

[gloomy patio]

it was

[stable tiger]

says the mlg rush guy

[gloomy patio]

u just a hater

[stable tiger]

add squads instead of 2x coins

protect the banner

[gloomy patio]

squads?

[stable tiger]

cant explain with a huge ahh text rn

[gloomy patio]

:/

[stable tiger]

basically random teams you protect banner, claim other peoples banner, you get coins + xp based on how much banner your team has (banners spawn on random places on map)
(You claim other peoples banners by standing near it for few seconds)

[trim hound]

welcome to the team also i 100% agree

[trim hound]

beg your pardon?

[stable tiger]

Players squad up with up to 2 other players (Dont know how this would be fit on playerbase count) and they compete to control banners that are scattered across the map. If a player stands near a banner for a few seconds, that banner becomes controlled by their squad until another team stands near it. Every banner awards points at 1 point per second and this goes up to 4 points per second based on how long each squad controls the banner. The squad with the most points at the end of the event wins.

copied and pasted basically this

[stable tiger]

summer so more playerbase

[gloomy patio]

CHANGES TO FFA.
With it being decided that we are going back to ffa1 for the time being, I thought I add some ideas for the future, I do agree ffa2 needs changing so instead of just complaining I thought I might as well try and come up with some ideas.

KITS
While I have voted for the change back to ffa1 I do not want to see the gamemode without kits, other FFA’s like minemen club’s classic, while fun don't have a lot of challenges outside of the person you are fighting, which in my opinion isn't why you play ffa if you want challenging fights that's what 1v1s are for.

Default kit is the kit that should define the PVP and balancing, I think how default is levelled right now is perfect and I think the kit should not be changed.

Now this is a new idea for kits and how they are obtained, instead of all the kits being obtainable you should have to max default first and then all the others are obtainable, my reasoning for this is this allows old players their unique kits/items, while also keeping the old style of ffa1 that the community prefers, this idea also allows for future kits to be added and balanced properly without disrupting the game too much as few people will have access, while there are some reasons not to I think this could be a good change.

Default is maxed at prestige 2 and costs a total of 95k, after this then you can unlock the rest of the kits, I think all other kits should be available but it could be that you need to max every kit in a order, or max the kit you buy before getting another.

I also think that the kits after default should not be better in the sense they win trades with default, I think they should have a gimmick but one that isn't too hard to use but also not too overpowered, doing this is not easy however and I think it's the best reason to not do this levelling system.

KIT IDEAS
(These are all the maxed-out versions, the specific armour changes and item changes I can come up with but I don't think they are super useful now these are rough ideas and ofc are not balanced.)

archer: change the one we have so the bow does damage and remove punch it does nothing for the archer but makes it harder to kill people. Now I know people don't like invis but maybe add invis for this kit that also hides the armour.
armour : chainmail helmet, leather chestplate, chainmail leggings, leather boots.
Kit: wood sword (sharp 1), rod, bow (power 3), 16x arrows, 1x pearl, 16x snowballs, 64x stone blocks, 64x wood blocks, 8x cobwebs, 1x grapple, 1x invis pot (1:20).

Kb kit: a kit with a kb stick like the old event.
Armour: iron helmet, chainmail chestplate, gold leggings, leather boots
Kit: 1 stick (kb 10, sharp 3) 1x pearl, 8x snowball, 64x stone block, 64x wood block, 3x grapple, 2x instant heal.

Buhc: I don't know how adding lava/water buckets will work and there's probably a lot of problems with adding this but it could be a fun idea. Also including g heads idk.
Armour: chain helmet, iron chestplate, leather leggings, gold boots.
Kit: stone sword, 1x rod, 1x pearl, 16x snowballs, 2x lava, 2x water, 64x stone block, 64x wood block, 16x cobwebs, 1x grapple, 2x g-heads.

Fireball: a kit with fireballs, is probably going to be useless but could be cool
Armour: leather helmet, gold chestplate, gold leggings, leather, boots.
Kit: iron sword, 1x rod, 8x snowballs,1x pearl, 1x grapple, 6x fireball, 64x stone block, 64x wood block, 8x cobwebs.

[stable tiger]

kb 10 stick? That's just.. You know Big.
Kb 10 just will yeet whoever you hit off the map and give them no chance to clutch if theres not a wall there (since pearls are so bad), even kb kit's armour is much better then archer which makes no sense

Also these kits are way too op, i mean ok its gonna cost lotta money but still new players gonna cry out them being not balanced

[gloomy patio]

fair

maybe 5

[stable tiger]

Remove pearls n snowballs i dont want anything else 🗣️🗣️

[gloomy patio]

or 3

as i said they are not going to be balnced they are concepts

also my idea with the armour is archer isnt trying to sword fight

they are trying to bow

so low armour

[trim hound]

bro just stick with this

[trim hound]

u think adding invis to a kit is smart

g heads and stuff could be a good idea tho

idk if ghead would be good on a laggy server like bl tho

but lava buckets and that sound sick icl

ffa1 but with a uhc type loadout sounds cool on paper

[winter root]

no

cuz people would just flood the map with the

them

[keen obsidian]

What about a double xp event?

[torpid garden]

Cool read 3 words then stopped

[quick field]

LOL same here

[quick field]

Its fine but the 2x coins event is really useless for real

[trim hound]

true

nvm bad idea

[trim hound]

keep it its one of the best events

cant wwait for ffa1

[quick field]

So if old ffa will back when will it back? In a month?

[winter root]

8 years around

[quick field]

LOL 8 years

[silk bough]

nah its 12

not 8

[stable tiger]

People hated me for suggesting gheads could be a buyable/tiers perk with melee dmg increase etc

[trim hound]

tbf i can see why issues with the server could mean when u hotkey they might not pop and that so i can see why

and most people dont like speed UHC

[keen obsidian]

pearl clutching is ez wym

[trim hound]

i think he means more suddenly getting lunched so far away with kb 10 can make it harder to land pearls

still simple to pearl clutch but i get his point

[keen obsidian]

ah true, but just pearl clutch lol

in all seriousness though i dont think kb related additions would be beneficial

with the exception of the kb event, that is absolutely goated

[trim hound]

kv event was the best

[trim hound]

frfr

[winter root]

what about 10x xp event

[sand mirage]

@winter root has leveled up! (5 ➜ 6)

[winter root]

?

or 100x

[keen obsidian]

i agree

[lone shoal]

What about a no xp event

[torpid garden]

Kits were a good idea, but the kits weren't very even. So, why don't we have the same thing as ffa 1, but you can chose a trait. Like a criminal: which doesn't give a notification when they kill someone in the chat and when they get a bounty the bounty sign on top of the users head will be removed. Removing the targeting of people with bounties. Also hiding their level and tier while they talk which will go good with ./nick. (please fix nick)

[keen obsidian]

yeah the nick needs to be relooked at

[tame citrus]

Okay so /nick I agree with but I wanna reaffirm, the entire point of a bounty is for you to be targeted.

Thats the exact purpose of bounties irl and ingame

For people to go for you

The more dangerous you are the more valuable you are to kill

[mental rune]

What if you’re really bored

[keen obsidian]

if nick will be changed it should hide tier and level in chat aswell, but bounties are fun so i agree no changes need to be made to bounty

[winter root]

make bounty more money

[storm herald]

Can you point me to the msg talking ab it

[tame citrus]

That talked about bounties?

[tame citrus]

100% agree

[tame citrus]

@storm herald

“Removing the targeting of people with bounties”

[storm herald]

Okay

Thanks brotha

[torpid garden]

I know, but thats the thing that came up to my brain first that wouldn’t be overpowered but rather than helpful to the player because the reason of a kit is to have something powerful that no other kit has. Unlike a trait or power that you could play without having.

[tame citrus]

I have a whole spit on this but in short it’s a big playstyle change

So you need people on board

It isnt smth like changing kits this is a whole build playstyle change

Not that im against it tho

Personally id love to build my set using coins myself rather than be locked to a kit

Including perks

[torpid garden]

I was mainly thinking of like real skywars with perks and that you can choose between perks up to 4-5 and upgrade those that you have chosen and you can change the perks too if you dislike it. I wouldn’t think of hypixel skywars to be mainly about strategy to choose what the best perks are .Mainly who is better at pvp and game sense.

[tame citrus]

It'd all need to be heavily balanced, but yeah

Perks that give you a buff and maybe a debuff are good imo

[trim hound]

just not the extra damage perk i beg

[torpid garden]

Nah add the strength perk

[trim hound]

no??

that would ruin ffa again

[torpid garden]

question couldn't players take screenshot of their kit level and show it in like a ticket for a refund?

when ffa 3 or 1 or idk comes out?

[lone shoal]

Ok. What about... A balanced game mode

[quick field]

How so?

[torpid garden]

Nah I want the least enjoyable ffa game mode

No armor no gaps just a sharp 5 diamond with strength

[quick field]

Bruh thats kinda violent

[last shore]

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[storm herald]

Currently, when we defeat someone, we fully restore our health. The issue here is that some players fully regenerate for killing players without contributing much. They just need to hit the opponent once to regain all their health, while the player who did the most damage gets nothing in return. We would like a system that keeps a record of all players who attacked the defeated player. This system will then calculate and distribute health to them based on the damage they dealt on the opponent. The health gain for the killer should be configurable.

what do you guys think of this

[last shore]

how about whoever did the most damage gets the most health (not full health since it would have been an assist) while anyone else who damaged the victim will still get health

[storm herald]

isnt that exactly what i said in different words

[lone shoal]

I feel like this would ruin FFA.

Completely

[last shore]

idk im blind

waffleeatsdogs are u ok

[lone shoal]

Getting heals is a very important way in how you play in all FFA servers. just because a player might have not done EVERY hit to a player does not mean they should get a partial heal. The assist numbers never really make sense because they seem to track all hits. I think this is a bad idea.

Playing against a mob of players would not really be possible with this imo

[winter root]

if you have a streak you wouldnt be able to heal very well bc everyone is on you

[mental rune]

Give a gapple if they get a kill?

[lone shoal]

That's already a thing tho.

But the redistributing the health's hurts people more than it helps. You got kill stolen. Womp womp

A simpler system like kill = health is just more fair

[storm herald]

i see ok then

it was in the update list but i will remove it

[torpid garden]

Amazing idea, pls add right now.

[lone shoal]

If I kill someone who has been I've and getting kills and getting hit for like 10 minutes I would probably not be the biggest damage dealer. Then I just get like a heart healed?

If someone is getting attacked by like 5 people everyone should not get like 2 hearts

The game mode is trying to get kills. "I did a lot of damage" is far from getting kills.

Also I believe the assist numbers are calculated in a similar way and they turn out to reflect very little about what actually happened.

[zealous sequoia]

No cuz if everyone is dealing equal damage everyone should heal equal health

It's mostly luck and ping who gets the finishing hit

And that's one scenario

Most of the time it will be a 1v1

And some random drops and kills both instantly

When said random kills someone on low hp, the person who dealt most of the damage should heal

@storm herald re add to update list waffle is waffling cuz this would disable their #1 strategy of just stealing kills

[lone shoal]

Kills = health. That imo is a more fair system then distributing. The person who got the kill should definitely not just die out because they might have not done all the damage. If they snowball someone into the void should they get no heal? They should get a heal. The assist numbers are wack and reflect very little about anything.

[zealous sequoia]

Womp womp assists are different

[lone shoal]

If your playing with this, every player basically has a hidden value that you can't see that is all the damage that is done to them. That includes every time they might have gotten close to low health, then got healed.

[zealous sequoia]

Hitting someone into the void deals 100% of their health not 0🤦‍♂️

[lone shoal]

No

[zealous sequoia]

Genius

[lone shoal]

100% assists exist

Not true

They can get hit before

[zealous sequoia]

U just mad cuz ur #1 way of getting kills getting removed

Lmaoo

Why would u even need to heal if ur just voiding someone

[lone shoal]

Why should that not heal me

[zealous sequoia]

@storm herald pls add this it would make ffa playable

[lone shoal]

It would do quite the opposite

[zealous sequoia]

Did u read his msg?

[lone shoal]

People on streaks will take damage and get healed for several minutes. This means that A LOT of damage has been dealt to them. So when they die, that person who dealed the last damage to him gets a really small portion of the actual heal. We see this issue with assists.

[zealous sequoia]

Don't do by percentages

Do by actual hearts

[lone shoal]

Same thing really

The precent of the 10 heats is the same of the amount of heats.

The assist system does a similar thing, and reflects very little about the fight.

[torpid garden]

personally its better for bounties so thats why i like it.

[lone shoal]

I think if this is added people will notice how bad it really is

[lone shoal]

how

dont sugest splitting bounties...

[charred owl]

make level 100 black

[torpid garden]

Most times I die is after someone kill steals my “kill” and being at like 2 hearts. So if I can heal for the work I did then I won’t die.

Also not killing people with bounties . Getting the bounty itself

[lone shoal]

For one: skill issue. Second: this would not realistically solve that. look at the asists. its scuffed

[lone shoal]

getting kills?

what if kills = heal = items = bounties... like at always has

thats just what makes sense and is practical

not storing every bit of damage done to a player and screwing the person who actually gets the kill.

Getting kills is the point of ffa. Why would we reward players for not getting kills.

[zealous sequoia]

Waffle just mad

#stopwaffleing

[lone shoal]

your arguing for the sole reason to argue

[mental rune]

You live to live

[torpid garden]

Waffles you barely play ffa why do you care also I haven’t see you get a higher streak then like 50. Get good

[lone shoal]

I don't play ffa too much but I don't want it to get ruined. It is a fun gamemode. Also why try to insult me lol. I have gotten 50 without armor or egaps. I was trying to actually offer some input because I believe that this is a very bad change. This is the point of the channel, not just attacking people.

use a different channel for that

[torpid garden]

…

[lone shoal]

This was literally a response to you saying that you fail at playing the game.

It's not attacking to say that the issue you brought up was not with the game mode.

[rough wadi]

add skygrid tbh

[zealous sequoia]

@storm herald pls ignore waffles and add the fair kills thing #saveffa

[plain silo]

Thank you for stating the obvious, because some people still don't realise how obvious of a decision this is.

[zealous sequoia]

What is that?

[rough wadi]

exactly

[plain silo]

Uncultured man

[zealous sequoia]

@storm herald pls ignore waffles and add the fair kills thing #saveffa

[crisp fable]

One do not constantly ping Zack

Two do you even play ffa?

I’ve never seen you play ffa and your stats also show this

[lone shoal]

He is just trying to argue

[lone shoal]

It's not fair lol. At all

Look at assists, how scuffed and little the damage actually reflects stuff

Giving partial heals is stupid

[zealous sequoia]

yea

im not on much rn hto

[zealous sequoia]

no

ur idea for it is rly rly ddumb

I would play a lot more if zack did the dmg thing

ur entire argument is assists = bad so health = badf

[lone shoal]

I have given many points

[lone shoal]

It is literally the basic idea behind ffa

used by a bunch of servers... because it works

[stable tiger]

why we cant have zero kill regen and instead golden heads

[lone shoal]

Because that is stupid

[trim hound]

Tbf that isn't a smart idea as gheads have a tendency to sometimes not pop when you click on them and I remember u being so high ping player so for you it would be even worse

At least kill refill is always instant

[lone shoal]

NEW FFA IS BETTER JUST MORE MAPS ARE NEEDED @trim hound is a D1 HATER

ffa2 took adjusting but it caters to more peoples playstyles and thats fine. the same stuff over and over is boring. We just need more content like maps or gambling or something.

ffa2 > ffa1

We just need a good update to keep the gamemode interesting. Not an actual remake. I will just quit if ffa has another total overhaul.

Just because it's nostalgic does not mean its better

[torpid garden]

Just remove the dumb harming pot kit then the game gets good.

[trim hound]

and the dumb speed kit

[trim hound]

i mean i dont want it back for nostalga

the pvp is just better with no speed

less lag hits less ghost hits

less dumb speed 2 timing

what a clown

[lone shoal]

not a thing

[winter root]

then its just old ffa

[winter root]

then dont play

speed counters runners

[trim hound]

...

the staff literally said they were finna tweak it so its different

[trim hound]

i mean it is

its why you get lag hits due to laggy hitboxes

with speed the hitboxs cant keep up since bridgerland is kinda a laggy server

so lag hits happen alot

both an advgantage and disadvantage to speed kit

[trim hound]

dont chase them for me i just stay where i am and they come back

or i turn around and stay in f5 and they come back

[trim hound]

also its not just me

[winter root]

that doesnt happen

[trim hound]

does for me

[worn spoke]

Fr

[lone shoal]

The issue with bringing back old FFA

I used to dislike FFA 2, but I have grown to like it far more. FFA 1 was bland and got boring very fast. FFA 2 is a massive improvement with faster pace gameplay and more opportunities for unique play styles. From all of this drama and arguing all we have proved is that the playerbase will never agree on anything. The FFA 2 gameplay lets the player choose what they want to play, and play to their own strengths. Going back to the old FFA would be a large mistake. People will always get tied up in the nostalgia of the old FFA, but that does not make it better.

Moving forward, I feel it would be an awful mistake to completely rework FFA another time. People just need more content added to the game to make it ever-evolving, not a complete rework. Even the smallest of features being released over the course of months would be exhilarating for the playerbase and keep them invested in our beloved gamemode. We need to remember that there is no way for everyone to be happy. FFA 2 is not perfect, but it is a lot better and more engaging than old FFA. The gamemode is not perfect for everyone's individual desires, but no gamemode is.

I would like to recommend smaller updates and changes to FFA to make it more engaging. This could be open to suggestions for new items, power ups, or features. I would love to hear all the little changes that we can make to polish our gamemode, possibly adding fun games like prisons has or challenging other players to coin flips for money ect. I also recall bedless talking about ideas for new kits. There are really endless possibilities for this gamemode. I think the community needs a polished gamemode, not an ever-changing gamemode.

Just because it's nostalgic does not mean its better

[trim hound]

I see what your saying and making changes could work but your 1st paragraph I disagree with old FFA for me had 1 thing and it was everyone had there own playstyle ( with aggro, passive etc) and that does still exist now buts it's a lot harder to make a playstyle when u have default and speed 2 kids just holding w

[trim hound]

Just scrap speed

I don't even care if they add new kits

Just get rid of speed in general

[lone shoal]

Just because speed does not suit your play style does not mean it does not suit the play style of others. It leads to faster pace gameplay and for many people more interesting fights.

[trim hound]

...

Right

[lone shoal]

Please construct a response instead of just hating. I would love to hear your input

If you have reasoning

[trim hound]

So if people have speed 2 how can I make a unique playstyle when I'm getting speed 2ed on, when I get 3rd parties by a speed 2 critting me out

When they out pace me

When they get low they just run and I can't catch them

As they can out pearl and outrun me

[trim hound]

Also it's not hating I'm giving reasons

Oh yea and ffa2 is ping based now as well

[lone shoal]

And you have a lot if more armor than them. It's a trade off. That's how it suits different play styles.

[trim hound]

I play on an ALT with just chain gear the same armour bars as them and they just run then 3rd party me

I don't have a chance to make a new fun plsystyle

Btw this isn't me hating I'm just answering u

[lone shoal]

^

[trim hound]

And that means what?

[lone shoal]

I'm done with arguing.

[trim hound]

???

U asked for reasonings

I gave them

Now it's Aguring?

Make it make sence

It's how a conversation works

[lone shoal]

^

[trim hound]

Bro..

Iv obviously not getting ur point here please use words and explain it

Not just an ^

Lemme ask u this @lone shoal

Say if I'm a level 0 default kit and I go up against a speed kit what do I do to beat them?

[winter root]

blood sweat and tears

egaps

crying

[winter root]

change to speed kit

?

[trim hound]

I mean with default

Against a speed 2

[winter root]

dont use default

is the correct answer

[trim hound]

It's not a hard question if speed 2 is really fair

[winter root]

no1 said it was fair

[trim hound]

How would I beat them in pvp with level 0 default

[lone shoal]

Well archer is not fair

[trim hound]

Facts

But if speed should not be removee

How would I win with level 0 default

Against speed 2

[lone shoal]

Should we remove max default then?

[trim hound]

Yes

No shit

[lone shoal]

I like fair gameplay

[trim hound]

Max default is just as bad

Fair gameplay does not have either speed 2 or max default

[lone shoal]

I dont likw kit upgrades tbh

[trim hound]

^

Now we are getting somewhere

[lone shoal]

But speed 2 makes the game fun for me

[winter root]

ok

but if we remove kit upgrdaes

[lone shoal]

It's my play style

[winter root]

literally what is the point to play

[lone shoal]

Fr

[trim hound]

Ofc it does

[lone shoal]

I don't think we should remove

[trim hound]

So tell me

How does a level 0 default beat it

[winter root]

nerf it

[trim hound]

Say it's a new player

[winter root]

be good

[lone shoal]

A game is about enjoying it

[winter root]

if the speed two user is half decent

you cant beat speed user

without being good

[trim hound]

Which most are

Just spam a and d

And u win

[winter root]

not how that works

?

[trim hound]

Spam a and d in different patterns and u win

[winter root]

wrong

[trim hound]

When I use speed I do that and it works

[winter root]

cuz you play against literal bots

[trim hound]

Not rly

[trim hound]

Iv beat good players with it

[winter root]

if you did that against a good player

would not do shit

[trim hound]

I have

And it worked

[winter root]

what players?

[lone shoal]

It's a trade off though because assassin does not change much when upgraded

[trim hound]

Lauqhing, u, don't, _16q, apotola (1 time)

And more

[winter root]

why the hell would you keep track

lmfao

[trim hound]

U wanna keep it balanced @lone shoal nerf the default kit down but keep speed 2

Then assassin stays broken

[lone shoal]

I never said that

[trim hound]

For a convo like this

U said remove kit upgrades

Ergo keeping full chain

Ergo speed 2 is still a thing

[lone shoal]

I said I don't like kit upgrades

I feel like they are important though

[trim hound]

What would max default be for you?

[lone shoal]

For progression

[trim hound]

What would u class as fair for max default

?

[trim hound]

Maybe for u because it fits your playstyle but for others it might not

[lone shoal]

I think the current kits cater to an assortment of players. I would love to see some additional polishing to the gamemode but no significant changes. I'm going to bed.

[lone shoal]

Read ^

[trim hound]

I have

[trim hound]

Additional polishing is a word

But I agree for the most part

[lone shoal]

I'm want others input on my opinions. I understand yours

[trim hound]

Just need to heavily rework the kits

[trim hound]

Just saying this is applicable to if they bring back old FFA it can still be polished and tweaked by suggestions also with how the kits are to balance them to make it fair it finna need a rework

[lone shoal]

Old FFA is just a worse version of new ffa. That's the first paragraph.

We don't need old FFA. That is a step backward. I honestly think new content like the old maps or something would help FFA.

[zealous sequoia]

I hate that guy annoying asf

Guys ima be gone for a few days so don't do anything bad 😡😡😡🤬

[worn spoke]

My literal goat

[worn spoke]

He’s the goat

[worn spoke]

It’s not even that good

People just make excuses when I out strafe them with my tier 1 lvl 20 movement

Speed also keeps the game fast paced and enjoyable and ffa is a fast paced game mode

[lone shoal]

Speed 2 haters faces leaked : 👶👶👶

Also skygrid map when???

The least usable map ever

[stable tiger]

old ffa is unbalanced new ffa is bad
rework ffa

[plain silo]

This. But only the reworking part.

[lone shoal]

Old ffa is just worse

Its just worse

[mental rune]

Few weeks

[honest yoke]

old ffa with new maps

[bronze hound]

[trim hound]

Heard of a rework? Acting like it's only ffa2 that can be fixed

Its not unfixable

[trim hound]

+1

[trim hound]

In my opinion speed just dosent work well with an already laggyish server

The hitreg is ass

[trim hound]

It is when the other person dosent have speed 2

[trim hound]

Well... No shit u have speed 2 it's insanely easy to out strafe someone who doesn't have speed

[quick field]

Agree

[worn spoke]

I was joking

[lone shoal]

That is the most backwards shnit ever

new ffa with old maps

[lone shoal]

why the hell would we go all the way back to the shittier ffa1 to rework stuff

[trim hound]

Just sounds like ur hating icl 😭 @lone shoal

Anything can be fixed and tweaked

If ffa2 can be tweaked so can ffa1

[trim hound]

Also how is that backwards?

Would literally make a new change to old ffa

Just hating on it fr

[lone shoal]

I never said we couldn't. It is a worse version. Old FFA is bland and does not give players as many opportunities for different play styles.

It gets boring in 2 seconds

I don't miss old ffa

New > old

[trim hound]

...

u missed the point

old ffa can BE CHANGED and TWEAKED it can be made not bland like it was it can be made not boring

also fym everyone had there own play styles

becuase u could experiment without being 3 tapped by a default or speed kit

[trim hound]

and this is just hate to this is a void point

[mental rune]

Is this thread not about old or new FFA?

we've all seemed to decided that the only option is tweaking the game some way?

I'm with waffles here

[trim hound]

yea to make suggestions not to say and i quote " new < old"

[trim hound]

i mean they alrerady started work on old/ new/ff3 to bring old ffa back

as we won

[mental rune]

I'm simply trying not to derive the point of this thread in the first point

even despite the result

another thread would do good for that

[trim hound]

ah yea i see u

[trim hound]

i just dont see what this suggestion contributes

[plain silo]

I don't believe this can be solved by numbers.

[trim hound]

true i was just being salty @plain silo

i agree

but both of them can be tweaked and changed both ffa1 and ff2

but im done aurguing with ppl about it tho iv said what iv said, just time to see what happens and if speed gets removed and kits get a reword or if ffa1 does end up coming back it is what it is tho id rather ffa1 come back

[plain silo]

My opinion, is that Bridgerlands prime has passed, and we'll never get there again

[trim hound]

yea i was thinking that

kinda why idm what happens with ffa anymore was talking with autumn and she said that bl is been dying so the players wont come back which made me think so even thought id rather ff1 anyday of the week with the playbase even if kits got a rework and speed got completely removed i wouldnt mind

[torpid garden]

Maybe if they advertised the server

[sand mirage]

@torpid garden has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[lone shoal]

Its literally called bridgerland. and bridging is kinda dead

rebrand to skygridland

[trim hound]

das a shout tho

[sand mirage]

@trim hound has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)

[trim hound]

+1

[mental rune]

+1

[honest yoke]

but new ffa is just worse

the kits are unbalanced

default is way better than every other kit

assassin is only good if your opponent can't aim for shit

and the other 2 are so forgettable and bad that I can't even remember what they're called, let alone ever use them

[trim hound]

@honest yoke +1

Nah level 3 alchemist is broken u get 2 or 3 harming 2 potions

[winter root]

3

[trim hound]

@winter root is archer good?

Cus ik u have it maxed put

*out

[keen obsidian]

amen 🙏

[winter root]

hn

[sand mirage]

@winter root has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[short cove]

to all haters of new FFA, just adapt and use speed 2.

not hard

just say you're bad

[quick field]

Bruh do u know what u are talking?

All HATERS of new ffa are bad?

But ngl im bad:/

[lone shoal]

Fr

[quick field]

agree

[honest yoke]

old ffa was so great

new ffa is ok but its not the same

[bronze hound]

yeah

[winter root]

bro does NOT play ffa 😭

[honest yoke]

assassin isn't even the best kit

[rough wadi]

i want what your smoking

[winter root]

its alchemist

[keen obsidian]

all my homies love alchemist

[bright plume]

Fr

[trim hound]

orr more like u need speed 2

[short cove]

WRONG

WRONG

[short cove]

only sane person in here, everyone else is WRONG

[sand mirage]

@short cove has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)