#Spell Slipstream twice on Khymeara Lylyth RV or not?

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neat sphinx
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Multipe efect of spells:
1 frendly upkip, 1 frendly animus, 1 enemy upkip and bag of other spells.
So can i cast with Lilo slipstrem x2mobe and then trigeer efect on two models?
I cant find in rules the answer
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sick carbon
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Lylyth can cast Slipstream on herself, and if she casts it again the 2nd instance will replace the first. You only get the benefit once.

neat sphinx
shrewd lake
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You have one instance of Slipstream going at a time. You need to cast it before Normal Movement in order for it to be in effect when you make your Normal Movement. When you finish the move you place 1 model

sick carbon
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Still only one instance. I'll dig up a citation.

livid holly
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Please do not use nicknames for models. It is impossible to search for rules if you do not use the correct names.

shrewd lake
sick carbon
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My knee-jerk answer is still "No" but it doesn't appear covered by the general rule that same-named effects aren't cumulative (as you're not asking about placing the same model twice).

And I can't find anything about the same-named non-animus, non-upkeep spell not being able to be cast on the same model twice. It just typically doesn't benefit you to as it applies a non-cumulative bonus or named effect.

shrewd lake
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Should someone re-make the thread with the correct model name as per DarkLegacy's comment and then we can get an official ruling that folks can search for later?

neat sphinx
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I find in rules priority this

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Spell Slipstream twice on Khymeara Lilo RV or not?

shrewd lake
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The model's name is Lylyth not Lilo

neat sphinx
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Spell Slipstream twice on Khymeara Lylyth RV or not?

sick carbon
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So the bit about effects being non-cumulative basically means if there's a numerical component, it doesn't "stack". Two instances of Unyielding doesn't grant you +4 ARM versus melee damage, for example, only +2.

The only textual argument I can see here is that Slipstream tells you to choose one model and place it, so there's an angle here that you still only choose one and not one per instance of Slipstream.

shrewd lake
# neat sphinx I find in rules priority this

I’d say this logically still falls under a same named effect that doesn’t stack. You can’t have two stacks of Slipstream on Lylyth at once because of this rule, therefore it can’t move two models.

But I can see where it’s confusing as the spell doesn’t really do anything to Lylyth herself

neat sphinx
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My confusing is/was that spell is on lylyth trigered when Her movement ends but effect is/ can be on 2 different models if i can have two the same spell on Her

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And i dont see in rules that i cant have 2 the same spell on me, becouse multiple spell efect said then i can have bag of spell on myself

sick carbon
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You can have the same spell, but as I laid out above, I think you still run afoul of the "effects are not cumulative" clause when Slipstream tells you to choose one model.

livid holly
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Not being cumulative means even if you have two instances of the spell, you can only pick 1 instance to use anyway, so you can only ever get 1 Slipstream when Lylyth casts it.