WIndows 11 doesnt recognize DS Edge anymore

[tardy estuary]

It seems like my Windows 11 doesnt recognize my DS Edge anymore. It worked perfectly fine like 1-2 months ago. I could change the stick curves, button layout etc..

But today (with up to date win11) it seems like my controller isnt using the Nefarius driver anymore. If i connect my controller throu usb. It will just show up under USB-Devices. And it will show up twice.

In DSX the controller wont be recognized anymore. Disconnecting the copntroller and connecting again wont do anything but just let the USB-Device (DualSense Edge Wireless Controller) disapear/ appear in the device manager. DSX wont recognize it anymore.

Also the controller wonr be recognized by the Edge Browser anymore. (whre i could visit some calibration sites, to calibrate the sticks)

[undone zodiac]

hmm well the controller doesn't use any of nefarius's drivers to connect to windows 11

if you use this website, can you add the controller and see it normally? https://ds.daidr.me/

[tardy estuary]

nope site says no controller connected

[undone zodiac]

did you do the thing where you right click the controller listings in Device Manager and uninstall them, and then click Scan for Hardware Changes?

[tardy estuary]

yes tried to deinstall dualsense devices and scanned for hardware changes... windows deinstalls them... but if i connect the dsedge again they pop up again

[undone zodiac]

does it show up under Sound, video and game controllers at all?

[tardy estuary]

ehm one of the "dualsense controllers" allows me manually install the nefarius driver... after that it appears under audio devices

[undone zodiac]

i don't think you should install that to the controller. Nefarius's drivers are for a virtual controller, not for the physical controller haha

mm i would say maybe try using a paperclip or something to push the reset button inside the pinhole on the back of the controller

if you have a bluetooth adapter you might wanna try connecting by bluetooth and see if that works. maybe you can use Playstation Accessories to update the firmware on the controller and then try plugging it in

[tardy estuary]

controller fw it on the newest version

its kinda strange that the controller totally bypasses the nefarius driver ?

or "windows" does it ?

does resetting the controller resets the set up stick callibration ?

[undone zodiac]

Nefarius's drivers are not for the controller itself. the controller should connect to your PC with or without any of Nefarius's drivers. Nefarius's drivers are for creating a virtual controller separate from the physical controller

[undone zodiac]

it might yeah :/

[hybrid charm]

Have you tried doing a clean install of your Bluetooth drivers for your network card?

Or is it working fine now

[tardy estuary]

i connect it throu usb. dont have bluetooth connection on my motherboard or a card

[hybrid charm]

OH

Well that's just weird then

All I can think of is CPU chipset drivers or different cable

[tardy estuary]

i had a similar problem back in the day before i even bought DSX. i had some other drivers installed for the Dualshock4. But installing naferius driver and deinstalling everything a had previously worked totally fine... but i just didnt used DSX for like 2 months or so and just updated windows from time to time... and now it wont recognize the contoller anymore

[undone zodiac]

[undone zodiac]

maybe also try different cables and usb ports too

[tardy estuary]

just connected a different controller (normal dualsense) and it will be detected by DSX

same cable

does it maybe has anything to do thats im on a beta fw with my PS5 ? cant remember if the controller got also an update

so ps5 is on the beta fw

btw the normal dualsense wont pop up as "usb-devices" in the device manager

tried different usb ports now... same story the dsedge is recognised as "USB-Devices"

just Tested the Playstation Accossories program for the PC... it wont recognize it either...

[tardy estuary]

seems like its probably the dsedge usb port which is not working properly ? so basically the dsedge will be either shown as "USB device" (like in the screenshot) or sometimes as Unknown USB Device (Device Descriptor Request Failed) with code 43

[undone zodiac]

Could be ya dang sorry to hear that

[vital cosmos]

I think it's because another driver is attached for the DS edge instead of the normal one from windows. You will have to find the device and make sure it's using the Hid driver from the system.

You can also make it easier in device manager by selecting VIEW (TOP LEFT) -> Devices by connection -> look for the controller.

Refer to attached images.

[tardy estuary]

i cant select the driver you are mentioning. One of the "USB-devices" can only select some audio drivers. And the Other doesnt even have the option to selext the driver you are mentioning.

[vital cosmos]

Hmm, then i suggest resetting windows only if it’s not a big issue for you, otherwise you need to keep finding a way to change the driver type to the normal one

[tardy estuary]

I totally blame this on windows… it worked fine like 1 month or so ago…

[tardy estuary]

Like @vital cosmos suggested. This fixed my problem.
I just didnt saw the driver he suggested first. Installing it on one of the two "USB-devices" (The one which allows it. The other device only allows some audio drivers) fixed the problem

btw THX to @undone zodiac and @hybrid charm for the help really appreciate it

[undone zodiac]

Yay!

[vital cosmos]

Yeah unfortunate you had to reset, but at least makes it work as normal.

I suggest to not mess with device manager especially switching x driver to another x driver unless you know what you’re doing and is able to revert etc..

In those times, windows restore is good to have to restore to

[tardy estuary]

i just didnt connected the controller for like 2 months or so to my pc... updated windows etc... and now windows used some other drivers for it ? cant explain why it used a different driver...

[carmine falcon]

You used Zadig or similar to swap the drivers on your edge. This doesn't magically happen out of the blue. The fix would have been easy: read the Zadig Wiki or whatever tool you used to fiddle with things you didn't understand 😉

Libwdi doesn't magically replace drivers randomly on its own, never has, never will

If you use advanced software better have a good backup to undo 😉

[carmine falcon]

Gave me the idea to add detection feature to a new tool of mine

[hollow socket]

Will be so much better to use this instead of those wonky websites, except for ds.daidr.me ofc

[carmine falcon]

Yeah daidr is more a specific diagnostic tool towards a specific product already rather than what I envisioned

Ofc. its logic could be copied from WebHID over to C++ but what for....

[hollow socket]

Well offline testing ofc 😉

But not worth the effort anyway

[carmine falcon]

I mean it depends on how the site is coded, you can make PWAs that are offline-runnable

Since WebHID is a client-side "offline" interface anyway

If the web app is pure JS or WASM, so all runs client-side it technically doesn't need an Internet connection

[hollow socket]

Indeed, or one could cache the page anyway

[carmine falcon]

If all the assets come from the same location, then just "downloading" the page and all its assets could be enough

JS, CSS, Media etc.

[hollow socket]

I guess besides keeping the code up to date, the only calls are for his skin detection db

[carmine falcon]

U can just run an offline cop of this too https://eleccelerator.com/usbdescreqparser/

The entire thing is one HTML file with the JS logic embedded in it

[tardy estuary]

Well yeah like i already mentioned. I didnt used the edge controller for like 2 months or so on my PC. And it worked before that. But i had problems with it while i first tried to use it on my pc also. Similar problem to which caused DSX to not detect it. I just wanted to calibrate my Edge sticks on the site https://dualshock-tools.github.io/

In the past i tried to use a DualShock 4 on my PC and i remember it also didnt worked from the start... And i had drivers installed from this site https://ds4-windows.com/drivers/

So maybe these caused the Edge to not be detected as it should have. But i didnt intentionally changed drivers for it. Why even ?

[carmine falcon]

2nd link is literally a scam site so sorry but I do not believe you that this just happened by itself like magic 😉 maybe stop running random stuff from the net and get an ad blocker and a healthy sense of skepticism when using the Internet

[carmine falcon]

Neither did Windows. We all love to clown on it but that is not something it does.

[tardy estuary]

No seriously I didn’t change the driver. Like I said before DSX detected the controller just fine and I used it. Why should I change the drivers for the controller in the first place? This accusation doesn’t make sense to me. Also deleting the controller and connecting it again to windows will always install the driver I posted in the screen… It’s not like I manually select a wrong driver for it….