#tia shielding rewards
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Should be working, have you waited a full 24 hrs?
you have no nam showing in shielded section?
going to link a thing to try, one sec
could you try this and see if it makes a difference? #๐-general-chat message
Now I look at it and shows something in my Balance
can you show a bit more of the screen?
tia shielding rewards
interesting
are you seeing your nam balance is not increasing or just assuming it's not due to the 0 in the column?
it looks it works (loks like i get 1 day counting and two days OSMO counting).
I will try to unshield rewards and look what ir will do...
ok so it looks like you are getting the right amount for the tia, but just that it says 0?
why?
yes, that was my confusion :-). I did not look at my NAM balance ;-).
I just unshielded it. Is the rewards showing in one time? Like at 7pm? Or by the time I shielded tokens?
ok. could you just keep an eye over the next masp epoch and see if it increases as expected? (with the amount as per dismad's screenshot above?)
I'm not sure why you unshielded it if you want to see whether it accrues rewards or not. What did you unshield, the nam or tia?
NAM
ok. so now you have 0 nam and waiting to see how much accrues?
just let us know if you see only 0.89 or also the 3.25 as per dismad's ss above
my guess is you will see the full amount accrue and it's a rewards display issue but waiting to hear back from you on that after next masp epoch switch
thanks
strange:
what is?
So now I see it is not working at all just 2 days rewards from OSMO...
for your question this is the picture I forgot to upload.
Any news on that?
thinking
if you look at metrics.namada.net that calculation looks wrong, so one of those two are off
@fiery reef could you check if you also get 0 on the rewards calculator?
on the other hand, tia shielded being well above target, it would not surprise me if rewards have gone to 0. will ask around and get back
The first picture ('100 TIA) were made yesterday... this is made right now...
both in reward calculator
hm ok
well it's entirely possible that it was true yesterday, and also true today.
as the rewards are dynamic
from epoch to epoch
Bought TIA to get NAM rewards and get some TIA...
let me check when next masp epoch shift occurs one sec
But this rewards are going dows so as for OSMO but to get that from 3,25 (like a week ago) to zero in a blink of an eye?
OSMO is going down pretty slowly. TIA fast as lightning?
can def happen, especially since tia shielded is above target
osmo is not above shielding target
try waiting 24 hrs without unshielding anything and see if any accruals occur
can't find when next masp epoch shift is anywhere for some reason
So there are some amount of TIA to get shielded rewards and if there is more TIA shielded no NAM rewards, just like that? f.ck I should have rather bought NAM instead of TIA for that 20 bucks. Now it is 40 % more expansive... โน๏ธ But I can be also pissed at your calculator :-).
well, shielding rewards is a pd-controlled fluctuating figure depending on how many tokens are shielded total, nothing new about that
still not entirely sure what's happening here, but it could well be that the value changes from epoch to epoch (masp epochs of 24 hrs, not the regular epochs)
It is strange I am looking at metrics.namada.net and OSMO is shielded above target (170+%) and I am still getting some rewards...
I've flagged the thread here for devs. We may get some qualified input from them later.
OK, thanks a lot.
@cerulean shoal ๐ can you try clicking on the cog icon (top right corner) then click MASP and Invalidate Shielded Context. Then wait for context to be rebuild and see if rewards from TIA show up
there might be a visual bug in the calculator but rewards should show up in assets list
It is messed up...
I have done Invalidate Shielded Context with no change. Now 0 in MASP rewards calculator is showing 0,874 NAM as rewards from shielded OSMO = same = OK.
you are using namadillo.app, right?
shielded 20 tia yeterday and I got the reward, so I assume it has to be visual bug on the interface side
I tried it also on other interfaces with the same result...
I am loosing NAM rewards every day. If you get rewards and I do not it is pretty bad. Do not you think? Can I use any explorer to see my shielded address?
you can't use an explorer to view your shielded address, that's the whole point of a shielded address.
also let's not be hyperbolic about this.. wait for dev response
Now I found ๐ (I must laught) different amount of staked NAM on namadillo.app and tududes.
How can I know that somebody is a dev?
the ones with heliax roles
mateusz is a dev
hey, was talking to brent, and he suggested you might want to try shielding just a fraction more tia (like 0.1 or even less) and see if it makes a difference, as currently the shielding rewards cut-off is exactly 20 tia... could you try that?
I will try.
Should I send it to shielded address or unshielded and than shield that TIA in namadillo.app?
If your goal is to shield TIA, you can send it directly to a shielded address without needing to send it to an unshielded address first [[1]](#๐-general-chat message) [[2]](#๐-general-chat message). [๐](#1434570799679017090 message "๐: shebe")
I shielded 0.2 TIA, and there was no change in the "Rewards est. for 24 hours" column.
ok but the column is not so important as whether the rewards actually accrue
so please check and report back when next masp epoch has passed
thanks!
No rewards again. I am pretty desperate. ๐
I tried it also on other interfaces with the same result...
@cerulean shoal soe more debugging of namadillo.app - make sure that the infra you are using is from this image. Check by going to the settings cog --> Advanced
you might want to try clearing your browsing history cache too
then invalidate shielded context and resync from scratch
Still not working...
What will help? Maybe I try to get my TIA from shielded MASP to undhielded, get it out of the Namada ecosystem (Osmosis) and then back to Namada...
@cerulean shoal did you shield those tokens directly from osmosis or from celestia chain?
Are you also 100% positive that the NAM you are receiving is entirely from the OSMO?
it checks out with the amounts exactly, so think we can be pretty sure of that
Here is the story about shielding TIA. The first part of my shielded TIA, totalling 20.44, came from the Celestia wallet. It was exactly 5.74 TIA. This was sent on 26/08/2025. Then, about 14.50 TIA was sent two weeks ago from Osmosis directly to the shielded address. Finally, as you recommended, 0.24 TIA was sent from Osmosis to the shielded address.
Ok, I think that's why there is an issue if so. You are absolutely sure those two portions of TIA was sent from Osmosis directly and not from Celestia?
Sorry, it goes from osmosis to Celestia
My brain is not remeber it correctly, I think. It is imposible to go from Osmosis to Shielded MASP...
It goes from Osmosis to Celestia and then it was sent to shielded MASP address...
ok, that makes more sense
listen, the thing is that there is a governance proposal happening atm which will take away shielding rewards for all other assets than usdc (see #๐ณ-governance-alerts ), theoretically you can try unshielding all the tia and reshielding it, but in a few days only usdc will still have shielding rewards, so it may be limited how much sense it makes to keep troubleshooting this.
we can if you want to, if so I suggest you try unshielding to tia and then reshielding back.
OK, will try it
So, finally it works. I made another wallet address. I get my shielded TIA back to Celestia wallet, and send my TIA to my new unshielded NAM address. Then I shielded my TIA tokens and voila, it is showing rewards... This would get me 50+ NAM in rewards, which will be like 50 bucks in a couple of months. What a shame.
glad it works now, sorry about the trouble.
The worst part is that I thought this from the beginning, that what I did now might help. I was counting on you a little bit to make it something different. Well, next time I'll probably just go with my gut feeling...
You can now close this. Thanks.
look, the main value you get from shielding your tokens is that they are shielded - the main value is in the functionality of the product. but yes sorry that rewards did not accrue for some reason.