Hi, i've made a transaction but never

[halcyon eagle]

Hey, can you provide some more details? maybe a screenshot of what you were trying to do?

[small mica]

i was testing withdrawing 1$ usdc from shiedled pool to noble. It never arrived...https://www.mintscan.io/noble/tx/942E98A5EA26A1EE28CF93C6DC0CA30C77E9CE1209AC01DFDA9FE0128BF231D8?height=36000343

@alpine mango tried to help but no news

and the ticket is now closed but not solved

I need to trust the system before doing with large amounts

[full stag]

There's no ticket system

[small mica]

there was before. I talked with @alpine mango . Maybe you can help ?

If token disappear like that. There 's no way i will use namada agin

[full stag]

Have you checked your Shielded Balance?

Check if it's refunded

[full stag]

He's not on our server.

[small mica]

yes. It has disappeard

[full stag]

Beware of scams

[halcyon eagle]

that user is most likely a scammer. I hope you did not give him your seed phrase? cease all contact with them please

[small mica]

ok. I don't give my seed to anyone

but that doesn't solve where my 1$ has gone

[full stag]

Check your destination address please

Can you share your address

[halcyon eagle]

relax, tokens don't just disappear in ibc, that's not possible

[small mica]

noble17qnwnkkd7vdd7duaugd0tz0wkdd88ggej5eucp

transaction hash from namada : 7E1636F4D8AC0955BFE6C7904200DE812BA8A6C6E6BA4BA0D5B53AA182D175D0

[halcyon eagle]

I can't help rn unfortunately but I'm sure tony can lend a hand. I'll check back in later if anything is needed from me.

[full stag]

Thanks, I'll take a look

[small mica]

It will be great to solve this. I was about to put some larger amounts but for now i can't trust namada

Please @full stag help if you can. Thanks

[full stag]

Gimme some time, almost there

Okay, I just checked and you have received an unrecognised coin instead of USDC. You can try depositing it back to Namada. I'll investigate and discuss it with the Devs for more information.

No, worries, funds aren't lost.

[small mica]

I'll try

Thank you

[ruby jetty]

which wallet you use for the recipient address ?

[small mica]

Kepler

With ledger

[halcyon osprey]

Can you please specify what's the origin chain of the USDC you sent to Namada in first instance?

I mean, you did use this route? Osmosis > Namada, right?

If you did so, you have to return back that USDC to Namada, return back to Osmosis, send it to Noble chain, and from there send it to Namada

Sending USDC from Osmosis to Namada directly results in a unrencognized IBC token

[small mica]

How to send it back to namada ? I don't know how to do it. The token is not recognized by namada ...

I might have shield it from osmosis. I can't remember

i understand the problem but it's not very user friendly....

Please help me do the transaction. I'm not a dev

[halcyon osprey]

Namadillo doesn't let you to send that unknown asset back to Namada?

If not, you'll have to use CLI to execute the transaction

That means to download Noble binary for your OS, import your wallet, and execute the transfer transaction from Noble to Namada using the resulting IBC denom (not uusdc) - also, add the --node flag to specify a RPC endpoint, as I assume you aren't running a Noble chain node in your OS

[small mica]

i'm just a simple user. I'm assuming my 1$ is lost. Hopefully i haven't transfered a lot more...

Namadillo doesn't let me transfer the token back. It doesn't recgnize it

[halcyon osprey]

Nah, that's not lost, but yeah, perhaps it doesn't worth for an avg user to make all of this

[small mica]

I am the frist one with this ?

[halcyon osprey]

#🎯-integrations-and-apps message already reported

[halcyon osprey]

Hm, if I recall there are other users that have experienced this, but they solved it using the way I mentioned above

[halcyon osprey]

Now you know what's the accurate route to use

[small mica]

if you want to onboard users you need to solve this and make what i did impossible...

[halcyon osprey]

If it's Noble USDC, you have to send USDC from Osmosis to Noble and then to Namada, not directly to Namada, as it loses its fungibility

[halcyon osprey]

That's why I reported it and tagged the dev 🙂

[small mica]

thanks for your time anyway

[halcyon osprey]

Anytime, happy to have clarified the issue at least!

[silent dawn]

Can someone summaries what has actually hapend in a few bullets. It's very hard to understand what is going on from this thread. Thanks

[halcyon osprey]

@small mica sent USDC directly from Osmosis chain to Namada, making it non-compatible with the USDC in Namada, as it comes from the Noble chain instead of Osmosis one. When one sends USDC from a different chain than Noble, the IBC denom isn't the usable one in Namada.

So, Namadillo needs to restrict receiving USDC only from Noble chain to address the issue.

[silent dawn]

Ok from our end Namadillo already blocks this action.

[halcyon osprey]

Could you please specify which Namadillo site did you use for doing so?

[silent dawn]

So we are abit confused on how it happened

[halcyon osprey]

Also, please explain the steps you have done to end up with such a situation

[gentle grail]

im also not sure if thats usdc from osmosis, that would mean different channel -> different trace -> different address of token on namada

so we would most likely not display it at all in the UI

[halcyon osprey]

Yeah, I assumed that, so not sure if that's what actually happened, or there's something we're missing

[gentle grail]

gonna take alook and ask around

[midnight kiln]

hey @small mica can you share the namadillo you are using and the step to reproduce your error? it would help us a lot

[small mica]

Hi,

i've shieded USDC sometimes ago but i can't remember if it was from osmosis or noble (maybe osmosis). At that time namadillo accept USDC from osmosis (it was alternate infra but can't remember which one). Then 2 days ago i withdraw USDC from shielded pool to Noble. That result transferring me a IBC token which was not Noble USDC. The current version of Namadillo doesn't accept me sending the token back. As it was 1$ i gave up on it

Just to compare i used penumbra before it stops developping. It was a lot faster and a much smoother exp. It was integrated with skip and lots of token were available. But your UX is better. Ledger is for me unusable for now. Why don't you allow USDC from any chain and swap it internaly for USDC noble. That will solve your issue.

[midnight kiln]

we are looking into skip but we can't help solve your issue with the information you gave us 🙁 I would recomment to try to do it again via https://namadillo.5elementsnodes.com

you could try with a small amount and if anything happen we can help debug it

[midnight kiln]

namadillo doesn't let you swap it back cause we dont want people to end up in this scenario so we basically disable this option

[halcyon eagle]

that's not how ibc works unfortunately. do you still have any of the usdc you shielded from osmo in the masp currently, or was it always $1?

[small mica]

it was just 1$ so i can't do it again

[halcyon eagle]

the point is you can't do it again because that option was closed. it was never intended to transfer usdc from osmo directly.

if it was more than $1, we could probably work out a way you could get it back from noble and back onto osmosis via cli commands, but if it literally was just $1 I suggest we leave it be. rest assure the possibility to transfer the tokens this way has been closed off

and just to explain (a bit simplified but for these purposes accurate enough) - the $1 you sent is not lost, it resides on noble atm as a "osmosis usdc to namada bridged to noble" which is a non-sensical token for noble. you could bridge that $1 back to namada and back to osmosis and it would be canonical osmosis usdc again.

[midnight kiln]

@small mica did you manage to retry?

[small mica]

No i can't because that option was closed as @halcyon eagle said

[midnight kiln]

what do u mean? didn't you want to move usdc to namada?

[halcyon eagle]

I understood this as osmo to nam usdc was disabled?

[midnight kiln]

yeah you can't, you need to first unwrap it to noble

[halcyon eagle]

ok but that's what he did initially

[midnight kiln]

ah ok i see

[halcyon eagle]

so when you say retry you are asking him to send from noble?

[midnight kiln]

im not sure anymore what he was trying to do

[halcyon eagle]

basically we gave up on retrieving the 1 usdc he sent from osmo as it seems like a lot of effort for 1 usdc

[halcyon eagle]

he was trying to unshield 1 usdc he originally sent from osmo into noble. (which namadillo let him do). this resulted in an abominate token on noble (a namada-bridged osmosis usdc bridged to noble, which is nonsensical to noble).

[midnight kiln]

oh okay i thought he was trying to send from noble and got stuck with this

[halcyon eagle]

we assume that in order to salvage it he would need to bridge that token back to namada first then to osmosis. but namadillo won't let him do that so.

[midnight kiln]

okok i see

@small mica the point is that you need to transfer from noble to namada not from osmosis

[halcyon eagle]

but I am correct in understanding that the option to send usdc from osmosis to namada has been disabled now?

[midnight kiln]

yep namadillo does't give you the possibile but you can do it via cli