s-class

[short sandal]

mann you guys are tough on the spam-category 😅

can I ask if there is any pathway to submit updates to an already sent submission (with more documentation etc)

[halcyon ridge]

Still unclear to me how to submit multiple tasks for the same category and if it matters...

We submitted 3 endpoints for the same category at the same time, would it be better to break it in 3?

[thorny aurora]

Same question here 🤔
Coz indeed there are multiple adresses that have submitted several things in the same subclass, so are they registered twice/thrice in the points pool ?

(They FAQ says they dont)

[fiery oracle]

it was said that quality projects will earn higher roids, will there be a column for this?

[south sorrel]

I see 101 and 104 the same address and the same class. I think this way to get score at the same class @halcyon ridge

[terse vine]

Should no extra point for Relayer ? #53 + # 60 is duplicated ?

#4 and #72 same for relayer

[south sorrel]

you can comment on it bro

[sturdy egret]

yes, which submission?

[terse vine]

Hello another question.. for rejected submission should i add comment or resubmit again via portal ?

[sturdy egret]

don't submit multiple tasks for same category
for example, relaying more than IBC channel doesn't get you anything more than just relaying one IBC channel

[sturdy egret]

only one per category

[short sandal]

was that in response to my comment on spam or my question on submitting extra info?

[mighty river]

Hey Gavin! Will the ROIDS be split equally for each task even if quality differs? I am asking about "Building Namada ecosystem integrations and tooling" subclass specifically.

[sturdy egret]

resubmit, maybe add a comment that it was previously rejected

[terse vine]

Thank.. but need to wait for chain fixed to able to done that task 😄

[sturdy egret]

oops! that was for path to resubmission

@short sandal wdym tough on spam? we've taken over evaluations, and we'll be reasonable

[short sandal]

it's about submissions that aren't in the spreadsheet yet (better to wait until they show up?)

[short sandal]

I would feel super bad if I had submitted one or two of the spam-marked in good faith and be rip'ed from the expedition. I can see it's a judgment call though

[sturdy egret]

yeah the points are a pool for each task, and then as more submissions are made, the claims on the points pool increase. this will dilute points earned

idk what to think about this part of the game, haha

[smoky mirage]

I think you might want to re-evaluate submission #74
it's just a copy of bot from cosmos-sdk chains that uses cosmos-sdk REST API, it won't work for namada

i.e. thats proposal query from the said repo:
https://github.com/Zenon-provalidator/namada_proposal_bot/blob/main/modules/proposals.go#L65

[sturdy egret]

yeahh if anyone gets 💀 from spam pls let us know

like i figure someone has to be a real jerk before getting banned

like botting us or something

[short sandal]

alright, just assumed it was an automatic ban as per introduction to SE article

[sturdy egret]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-phillips-look-at-me-im-the-captain-now-gif-5038544

thanks to those who pointed out that there were duplicates!! by commenting in the spreadsheet

okay spread the word: don't do more than one task in each subclass because you won't earn more points

[mighty river]

I see a reason for it (almost no human factor included in ROIDS distribution), but it is a bit sad, as it means quantity over quality. Just wanted to highlight it, I understand the decision all good

[upbeat gulch]

Hey, I sent an request but I'm not in the table, do I need to wait or send another one?

[mighty river]

It is up to Feb 10, so wait

[sturdy egret]

it seems to me that (unfort) there doesn't seem to be a distinction for quality

[sturdy egret]

thank youuu!!

[mighty river]

I can predict you will just pick up some cool ideas and fund them from a different pool, that would be nice. Because I see some cool staff guys are doing!

[sturdy egret]

spread the word: don't do more than one task in each subclass because you won't earn more points

[sturdy egret]

idk how ultimately scoring will go down, but personally we (Luminara) will be looking for high quality stuff 👀

[fiery oracle]

so all block explorers will get the same roids no matter what?
:/

[short sandal]

for those competing in both crew and pilot, I assume submissions are distinct so one can submit crew s-class and pilot s-class?

[sturdy egret]

i think so 🫤
will confirm

[grave saffron]

For final understanding:
The tasks "Providing Public RPC Endpoints as a service" and "Operate a Namada indexer as a service" are one subclass of "Oparating Namada infrastructure as a service" will be awarded points as one task.
Also "Operate a Shielded Expedition-compatible Cosmos testnet relayer" and "Operate a Shielded Expedition-compatible Osmosis testnet relayer" are also one subclass of "Operating IBC/Interoperability infrastructure" will be awarded points as one task.
Am I getting this right? 🤔

[mighty river]

#1210194761621839962 message

[low walrus]

Yes, you have it correct

The sheet itself is confusing on this because it makes it look like indexer and rpc are being scored separately; we'll fix this going forward. Sorry for any confusion!

Prior to points actually being assigned in the nebb, the results will be parsed by script to make sure each entrant is correctly receiving points once and only once for each subclass, whether they made one submission, multiple submissions, duplicate submissions etc

[low walrus]

also: thanks to those leaving feedback about duplicate submissions etc in the comments

feedback so far has been helpful and much appreciated! if you notice any discrepancies or have questions about submissions, feel free to ask, there will be time to take a second look before the end of s-e

[dusky arrow]

@low walrus @sturdy egret
Can someone double check the 56th number on the spreadsheet? My submission was assigned to the wrong category, integrating Namada into a block explorer should belong to the category "Building Namada ecosystem integrations and tooling" and not "Operating Namada infrastructure as a service"😬

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[low walrus]

thanks, fixed!
change should be reflected next time the db is refreshed

fair enough, once the chain gets moving again (hopefully today) and your indexer is synced again, could you ping me and we'll take another look

[fiery oracle]

Is there any news about this?

#1210194761621839962 message

[low walrus]

yes, for the purposes of the nebb it's simply a pass/fail; all explorers meeting a minimum threshold get the same points
however we are also tracking submissions that go the extra mile for extra recognition

[south sorrel]

send the URL to access the website enough for evidence? How about if someone has my website and uses it to submit?

[fiery oracle]

``2. S Class tasks: Does quality lead to different ROID points?

S Class tasks are manually checked (by a human). Quality matters in the sense that the human has to be convinced by the evidence that the task has been completed, leading to winning points.

``

hackmd[dot]io/ljtttUyfQOyjgMszkgTKrQ

trusting the information in the FAQ, I started coding shielded expedition's best block explorer, it's not fair if all explorers get the same score :/

[sturdy egret]

@low walrus

[south sorrel]

Please do not only focus on the block explorer in the SE. I think we need to go through all of classes here. The purpose of SE is to test and find a bug. You can improve your blockchain explorer later to use it in the future ( main net maybe)

[fiery oracle]

no problem, I also reported a security vulnerability where I was able to break validators and rpc's

but there is not even 1 block explorer which you can see the transaction status and details on the SE 😄

[south sorrel]

yes, love it. Let's find more to get the chain stable in the SE ASAP

[sturdy egret]

i think @low walrus has an explorer coming..

can we see yours?

[fiery oracle]

I'll deploy it soon

[short sandal]

has team responded to this yet?

[short sandal]

to be fair, it doesn't say better will get more points

on a close reading

not that I think you shouldn't have them

[fiery oracle]

nope

[short sandal]

that's not great if you can indeed do what you say. (which I have no doubt).

[sturdy egret]

we're looking for outstanding submissions to promote (and if we have to, we'll reward outside of the competition ourselves)

[short sandal]

no doubt hkey's explorer will be outstanding

[south sorrel]

can not wait the outstanding submissions 🫶

[short sandal]

I can disclose already that mine will most likely not be outstanding 🙂

hopefully sufficient though

[azure sentinel]

Are the s class tasks points up to 10th already added to Nebb points?
When do you plan to add tasks submitted later than 10th Feb ?
@sturdy egret

[thorny aurora]

Seems so. Did you see the jump in points of some people ?

[south sorrel]

I think yes

[sturdy egret]

i didn't get notified yet, but maybe devs forgot to tell me

[dusky arrow]

I think the Nebb scoring has been updated. I think I got ROIDS for the wrong category, I got too few ROIDS for a task that 7 people have done so far. Please help me solve this problem

[dusky arrow]

@sturdy egret

[dusky arrow]

Any ideas, guys? @sturdy egret @low walrus (sorry for pings btw)

[glossy sedge]

follow

[low walrus]

np, this is one we fixed on the sheet yesterday, correct?
if so, it's likely still showing the old data on the nebb but when the nebb db is refreshed with the next batch of s-class it will show the corrected data

same goes for any other submissions that were corrected yesterday (there were a couple others that were in the wrong category or incorrectly marked as spam)

[hushed quarry]

@sturdy egret question, I sent a job with an indexer to be checked before the job that I have checked already in the table, why can this be so?
Is it lost somewhere?

[dusky arrow]

thanks for clarifying

[sturdy egret]

pls tag @low walrus for S Class in future

[hushed quarry]

ok, sorry