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brittle valley
Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [190pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Twin-linked Volkite Culverin
. . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Twin-linked Bolter
Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion [130pts]: 4x Bolter, 4x Chainswords/Combat Blades, 4x Veteran Space Marines, Legion, 4x Volkite Serpenta
. Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Lance
Centurion [92pts]: On Foot, Volkite Charger, Warlord
. Cataphractii Pattern Terminator Armour: Terminator Armour
. Consul
. . Centurion, Legion
. Power Weapon: Power Lance
Breacher Siege Squad, Legion (Compulsory) [200pts]: 9x Breacher Siege Space Marines, Legion
. Breacher Siege Sergeant, Legion: Bolter
Tactical Squad, Legion (Compulsory) [125pts]: Bolters, 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion
. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Bolter
Tactical Support Squad, Legion Flamer [100pts]: Flamer, Support Squad
. Sergeant, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Flamer
. 4x Space Marines, Legion: 4x Bolt Pistols, 4x Frag and Krak Grenades, 4x Power Armour
Heavy Support Squad, Legion Missile Launcher [160pts]: Missile Launcher, 4x Space Marines, Legion
Legion and Allegiance: XIII: Ultramarines, Loyalist
Rite of War
Use Playtest Rules Errata 1.0 (From FAQ 1.1 Feb/2019): Playtest Rules Errata 1.0 On
Warlord Traits
++ Total: [997pts] ++
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wary mango
Avoid lances
brittle valley
Oh, they sounded really cool and I like glaive/lances on my leader models
If I do a glaive, can it count as something better like a sword or thunder hammer? (At which point, which should I pick?)
stone wing
A sword would be most appropriate for a glaive I would say
I'm not sure on the missile support squad. They're easily avoided in ZM and will suffer from either having nothing to shoot at, or having to snapfire a lot.
uneven laurel
Have you bought any minis, or is this purely from scratch?
wary mango
That didn't stop me from using fulmentarii, tho
stone wing
Fulmentarii at least get relentless and can still whack a fool that strays too close 😅
uneven laurel
Ah, this is also true. But yeah, Fulmentarii are expensive in a normal game, nevermind ZM.
Speaking of Fulmentarii, I'm not sure about the Cataphractii armour on your Centurion, especially as he is the only one in Terminator armour.
wary mango
Fulmentarii at least get relentless and can still whack a fool that strays too c...
They lose out on reaction fire unfortunately :/
Something I forgot about until 20 man NL blob with ccw, chaplain and sevatar decided to charge them
brittle valley
Have you bought any minis, or is this purely from scratch?
I haven’t bought anything but a mk3 breached squad yet
brittle valley
Speaking of Fulmentarii, I'm not sure about the Cataphractii armour on your Cent...
Normal power armor better?
wary mango
artificer
brittle valley
(Well, artificer anyways)
wary mango
And artificer for all sgts
uneven laurel
Yeah, artificer would get you the 2+ without the hindrances of Cataphractii. I think that even with a refractor field, it works out cheaper.
brittle valley
Instead of missiles?
Hmm, works out to be 2pts cheaper to do artificer armor and refractor field instead of cataphractii
brittle valley
Ah, you are correct, I read the 10’s place on my total point count wrong
Tiny text
How about a Morirat instead of the missile launchers?
uneven laurel
Anybody suggest destroyers yet?
I wonder if the Nemesis Destroyers could be pretty nasty in ZM. No Counter Attack, but those Nemesis bolters...
vagrant dove
Yeah nemesis bolters are pretty good and you can bring fifteen of those guys.
uneven laurel
I might suggest adding maybe a couple power swords to the Breachers? ZM is probably the one place where having that option is worth it.
A full squad is definitely not worth the points (sadly, as it looks great).
Oh, it might be worth making your Centurion a Delegatus as it's only 15pt, gives him a Master crafted weapon which essentially makes the upgrade pay for itself, and then gives you access to a Rite of War, such as the ZM assault one. As memory serves, that makes Breachers better?
brittle valley
Do I drop the vet Tacticals for destroyers? Those are two pretty different modeling directions
wary mango
They are, correct
brittle valley
Ok, destroyers it is
wary mango
Which ones?
brittle valley
With those changes I have about 40pts left… is it worth upgrading the support squad to Volkite? Or leave them as flamers?
brittle valley
Which ones?
Instead of the vet tacs with volkite
wary mango
Remember that Nemesis may be yeeted from the game when 2.0 drops
wary mango
Instead of the vet tacs with volkite
Which destro unit :)
wary mango
Mhm
Fun fact
Rules will be changed upside down in ~3 months
And ain't nobody know nothing about which version is better
brittle valley
Yeah…
brittle valley
I think it’s still worth looking at basics though
stone wing
Lore wise UM weren't exactly known for their... inclination to use destroyers
Eh, they definitely still do use them, and indeed the Nemesis chapter has quite a reputation.
wary mango
They were as ostracized as girlyman could ostracize them without disbanding them
wary mango
Eh, they definitely still do use them, and indeed the Nemesis chapter has quite ...
And it also has 2 companies of destroyers for an entire chapter, highest number in the legion
That's... Not a lot % wise
stone wing
No, but it means they're 100% legit to use lorewise still, depending on the theme of your force.
I'd avoid a full blown Destroyer themed force, but a squad is A-ok
wary mango
This is true
Although a mournival destro comp row as UM would feel quite catarthic imo
Finally a good cqc version of UM and suzies with rad 'nades
brittle valley
Plus a a scouring-themed force, I’m guessing there’s more willingness to send some destroyers against traitors
stone wing
I can imagine they're prioritised to send to Word Bearers concentrations.