#3500 Night Lords 3.0

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Wanted to try making a list with all the stuff I like about Night Lords, was hoping for advice on upgrades and specific weapon choices. Basic gist is mostly MSU units going wide across the board. Despoilers for line, recon squads for pinning and shooting out characters. The assault squad for taking out enemy line.

Then the more elite/legion specific stuff is intended to gang up on anything even remotely scary. Night Raptors with Moritat for phage (t), terror squad with librarian for statuses, and praetor with cataphractii retinue to finish it off. With the kratos there to threaten anything big and in the absence of such, fish for more statuses on infantry.

And the contemptor is there because I love contemptors, especially exactly that build.

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Far too many MSU imo. Also where does the Tartaros Praetor goes ? Inside the Cataphractii Retinue ?

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If yes, it's bad, since you will have the benefit of neither suit of armour.

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Putting Trophies AND Telepathy on the Librarian is also useless.

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Telepathy already gives Fear (1) to the Librarian.

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Moritat in Night Raptors is a crazy idea though, ima steal that.

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Also I am reading what you wrote but, and my bad for the harsh words : Do you have the rule book ?

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You are legitimately putting Telepathy AND Trophies Librarian (Fear (1) max) in a NATIVE Fear (1) unit ?

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I would put a jump pack on the librarian and get it inside the Assault, or bare and stick it in the Despoiler.

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retinue wise i was looking at a couple things at once and mixed up

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librarian was more about spells than the fear itself, though he can easily go elsewhere

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swapped to tartaros (and also put a legion standard in there because i somehow missed it the first time around) and dropped the trophies for the libby.

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who will now ride with despoilers

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Rhinos are 12 slots now, so even in Rhinos I would always suggest people to add the 2 bodies if able. it goes a long way to resist a test from dying against shooting, or add a few more dices or sponge wounds for like a special weapon.

I am not too good looking on the Battle Cannon for the Kratos, but also I am dum dum toward the Volkite ^^. The Cannon with Flashburn is more multi target threat so great. Also dont you have the point to max it out with actual good Sponson weapons (AKA Lascan :P) ?

Overall I dislike MSU for the simple reason that it can easily give First Strike on a somewhat average roll, or be blasted off the board with a single lucky attack

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Even if only 2 raptors survive they can easely destroy a Tactical squad in close quarter so there's that.

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everything MSU will be hidden either behind terrain or in vehicles so i'm not too worried about that.

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skimmed a few points to add biomancy and a jump pack to the librarian so he'll go with the assault squad now

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Apex the Retinue for something : Atramentar or Master Serg

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for some reason thought only normal termies could get atramentar, but yeah that's great

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Atramentar allow them to get fist which, with the +1 init on the charge, are immensly better than a Thunder Hammer (Though some people will argue, and be somewhat right, that you then have a -1I only hammer on the charge but...)

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Master Sergent makes a single serg WS6/7 which is absolutely stupidely crazy

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i put that one on the assault squad

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And ? You can have ONE OF EACH prime per detachment

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So you can have multiple Master Sergeant in your army in different detachment

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I keep that Master Serg the Champion "trick" for my 3k pts list on my Saturnine Champion with hammer. Bro is a Primarch Killer in his own right 😂

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ye my primes are

Combat Vets on Libby (+1WP)
Master Sgt on Assault Marines
Atramentar on Tartaros Retinue

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Okej okej. Atramentar or Master Serg is indeed good on the Retinue, even for the +1 init alone.

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just hit me if i drop a rhino i can put a praetor in saturnine with the deepstrike upgrade with the atramentar, put the terror squad in the land raider and see what else fits too.

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Well, also, another opinion but, I would suggest a flamer on your Raptors. They can have both a flamer and a melee weapon so mine is geared with Flamer and Chainblade. And I think on such a small unit, that full dual claws is a more "Multi target threat" approach.

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wow ok so that teleport transponder is PRICY

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Though as is the Praetor in the retinue from the LR is a good thing.

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another update. dropped a couple recon squads to max out the raptors because really only the one with the vigilator and logistics are really necessary.

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on raptors it's 5 vs 10

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Again, I would still put a flamer (or two then) on the raptors. It's a 24" Panic (1) Fear (1) threat bubble to potentially score an easy Vanguard (4) from making a lone Tactical Squad running from a point.

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And in case, just obliterate them off said point.

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If you prepare the field with a Serg sniping from your recon

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At cool 5 (-2 from both rules) it's like a 87% chance for them to run.

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Much more than anything else

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Yeah, but without splitfire they’re more likely to be wasted

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not sure if it's worth hunting down the points to add the flamers. they don't work on the charge.

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Again, charging 5 raptors in a tac squad is even a dead sentence for them. Charging 10 even if 2 touches the squad, the squad is gone.

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If you have 2x 10 blobs vs 1x20, they can’t just fire a single saturnine inversion or whatever and pick up a whole squad