Plastic Mark II / Saturnine Box

[rancid girder]

I'm pretty hype for the dread

[jovial flame]

but thats why im in the auxxx

AWHH YEAAA

so chunkyyy

[tame goblet]

it’s neat but it’s not something i’d think about buying a box for

[open sequoia]

Exactly

[analog stump]

Wierd that they stole Warmaster titan suzerian plasma cannon design for them

[brittle mesa]

Wonder what weapon option the dread and terminators will have

[tame goblet]

Like in a terrain kit where it can be used as a model if i wanted would be cool ig

[open sequoia]

Also you really checked my profile description lol?

[jovial flame]

loooks like they get a disintt

i hope we get that old school combii bolter

but maybe doubt?

[analog stump]

Yes I indeed clicked you on phone xd

[jovial flame]

i dunno

[indigo narwhal]

The dread looks like it has a big disintegrator.

That worries me a little personally.

[rancid girder]

How come?

[weak wren]

That it’ll be OP, or that it’ll kill itself?

[violet dragon]

Yes

[open sequoia]

I mean the second option is funnier

[tame goblet]

also dual plasma

[open sequoia]

Skaven mentality yes yes

[rancid girder]

That it'll 'get hot' and vapourise itself

[grizzled prairie]

Fair

[naive pawn]

”say the line valrack.”

https://youtu.be/Po0ZKNAGFBU?si=hPZDiSdILbvvCBlY

[violet dragon]

There he is, I was wondering when valrak would weigh in on the situation

[open sequoia]

I do feel bad that the box leaked

[naive pawn]

Dude everyone is giving there 2 sense.

[open sequoia]

It seemed like the team was having fun with the hearsay stuff

[weak wren]

Oh good, valrak can tell me what to think :/

[open sequoia]

You can just…not watch him

[naive pawn]

[jovial flame]

I honestly dont watch a lot of warhammer stuff. This discorddss enoughh holllerringg for mee and more entertaininnn

[open sequoia]

Real

[viral belfry]

Same

[naive pawn]

I like to sometimes watch stuff just to see the things Iv missed.

[tame goblet]

i check auspex tactics and that’s ab it

[violet dragon]

I like watching valrak because it satisfies my need to go listen to the village schizo with a much lower chance of getting shivved

[naive plover]

I like the MKIIs but damn those Terminators aren't for me haha

[open sequoia]

Watch out, I once got shivved through the screen

[violet dragon]

The chance is low, but never zero

[indigo narwhal]

Yes

[cobalt hawk]

I’m not sure the new termies fit the BA aesthetic so I might be passing on those

[gusty escarp]

Overall I'm happy with it, not all the models are to my taste but that just means I can sell them to effectively reduce the box price

[viral belfry]

They fit ieon hands

[tame goblet]

depends how they’re handled in lore

[naive pawn]

100%

[tame goblet]

would be cool if they’re treated like dreadnoughts just for people not mortally wounded

[pure wraith]

They also fit if you want to go full 2nd edition.

Just those and beakies, nothing else.

[tame goblet]

like chosen to be locked in the armour until death

[hollow isle]

is it safe to say that salamanders finally got some love?

[naive pawn]

Wrong

[naive plover]

For me it's the shoulders I think, the profile on them is a bit dopey looking

[naive pawn]

No love only sons of Horus and imperial fists

[violet dragon]

Don't go counting your chickens yet, buddy, they're just a paint scheme for now

[grizzled prairie]

Its fine for me, but that praetor makes NO sense

[hollow isle]

fair point

[grizzled prairie]

I don't see him swinging arouns that thammer

[naive pawn]

Wdum?

Oh

[low prism]

I dunno. Saturnine does nothing for me so I guess my strategy will be to massbuy mk2 marines that get parted out by ebay sellers when this thing comes out 🤣

[grizzled prairie]

Saturnine armor looks too big and impractical for a command role

[naive pawn]

Yea

[naive plover]

Are they a heavy support choice? All the gun options would point to that

[violet dragon]

I really like the Saturnine so I'm hoping there's a lot of people willing to do trades for more mk2 in my local

[naive pawn]

I like it way more than the standard sat terms. I think it’s the covering of the parts I hate

[grizzled prairie]

That also sucks for me

I got more hope for that centurion

[viral belfry]

However it makes the commander more visible so they can see their leader leading from the front.

Also it makes them more durable which iron hands like

[naive pawn]

Like the lower chest looks rly ugly to me.

[violet dragon]

I'd imagine either a HS slot or 2 units, one with double heavy in HS, one with heavy+fist in elite

[south moon]

Im swapping mine for more mk2

Gonna use em for veterans and heavy/support weapon bodies

And save a few for when the breachers show up in plastic

[violet dragon]

Never ever

[gusty escarp]

Geab the box and sell the sat stuff. Lots of new players from 40k will be wanting it. More money efficient.

[naive pawn]

I used my mk6 as inductii, heavy support squads and marines. With swamped heads to make them “MK5”.

The mk 2 are going to make up my ranks of vets and legionary’s.

[grizzled prairie]

He may be visible but to me he looks like an eye sore

And his sheer girth make him more likely to attract a lascannon squad than to rally his troops

[naive pawn]

[violet dragon]

He'll simply shrug them off his massive shoulder plates

[winged moon]

not that warhammer players ever have a unanimous opinion on anything, but that being said
we all agree those mk II are bangin right

[violet dragon]

As we all know, the bigger the shoulder pads, the safer the marine

[grizzled prairie]

Gonna tank it all like senator armstrong

[gusty escarp]

I'm calling t5 with a 3++ now. So he will just wade through lascannons

But 5"move

[naive pawn]

I LOVE mk2 RAAAAAGH

[grizzled prairie]

Other than the helmet they look neat

[open sequoia]

I like em

[tame goblet]

they look like the iron warrior heads lowkey

[open sequoia]

More variety in squads is always welcomed

[tame goblet]

I’m hoping the mention of white scars was actually a hint for a mk2 bike squad

[winged moon]

they seem much more faithful than the mk III truescale
not that i dislike the new mk IIIs, i actually quite like them
but this looks much more like "we took mk II and made them plastic" rather than a reinterpretation

[open sequoia]

Mk6, mk3, mk2 combined squads will look fantastic

[naive pawn]

The new mk3 are a sin

[open sequoia]

That’s not written in the bible

[naive pawn]

Give me 30 minutes to make a shity edit

[grizzled prairie]

I'd say they look more like a reintirpretation if the flattened greaves are anything to go off of

I didn't spell that right lmao

[open sequoia]

Editing a holy book, sin :)))

[winged lava]

Who's getting their door busted by the Pinkertons this time?

[weak wren]

It is actually. Armourua 21.7 “Though shalt not fuck up the holy Iron Armour”

[grizzled prairie]

I think theyre neat but they dont beat out the old mk3

[open sequoia]

I simply can’t get over how squat the old mk3 are

[gusty escarp]

I think it's a courier theft tbh

[grizzled prairie]

As somebody whos totally definitely actually read the bible this is real

[open sequoia]

It ruins the design for me

[open sequoia]

You see, the emperor hates religion so clearly this is fake news

[weak wren]

I do agree. I prefer the size over the segmented plates

[rugged nymph]

Sooo, which projects do you guys have in mind for these models?

[open sequoia]

I’m def doing a 40k deathshroud with the saturnine

[rugged nymph]

Im thinking about early Raven Guard

[open sequoia]

And turning the praetor into a lord of contagion

[grizzled prairie]

Maybe grab the centurion and mk2 to make a despoiler squad

[hollow isle]

definitely doing salamanders

[weak wren]

Well Mk2 is our “canon” armour that all our art is in, so these will replace most of my legion.

[winged lava]

Theft for sure but I think this person knew what they were stealing
A bunch of new 40k stuff was taken as well, like the dawn of war game

[open sequoia]

It looks very knight to be fair

[grizzled prairie]

Ludwig will most definetly not

[weak wren]

No he will not

I cannot wait for his reaction

[cobalt hawk]

I might do dark angels with the mk2

[grizzled prairie]

Really hoping that once we get better images the mk2 will look like this

[cobalt hawk]

It probably will

[crisp dirge]

That's the old Mark II.

[cobalt hawk]

Is it? The helmets are the same aren’t they?

[grizzled prairie]

Its new artwork, flat legplates, and new phobos bolter

[grizzled prairie]

Not quite

[weak wren]

These are based on Hibou khan’s armour, or vice versa

[crisp dirge]

Those plates aren't flat lol.

They still overlap visibly.

[grizzled prairie]

Somewhat flat

The overlap is small enough that it looks like a more detailed rendition of a model rather than a unique take imo

[cobalt hawk]

I think I’ll do dark angels or night lords for the new mk2

[weak wren]

DA have nice MK2 upgrade heads, reccomended

[cobalt hawk]

Are they still sold? And Tbf the MK6 ones would work to

I just hope they release mk2 upgrade kits

[unkempt brook]

I've figured it out

[cobalt hawk]

Give me mk2 legion shoulder pads

[crisp dirge]

I suspect we won't see anymore resin legion ugprades ahead of the plastic stuff.

[unkempt brook]

I hate them because they look like Necromunda Orrus Spyrers with gigantic shoulders

[cobalt hawk]

Wym

[livid pond]

One was hoping the bolters would be tigrius or umbra ferrox

[unkempt brook]

I knew something looked both familiar and wrong

[cobalt hawk]

I want a better picture of the consul

[crisp dirge]

#hh-general message

Basically, they've stopped resin legion upgrades entirely.

Including the weapon upgrades.

[open sequoia]

Hopefully it means we get 40k style upgrade kits for legions

[crisp dirge]

If you read between the lines, and clock what Andy said, it's fairly clear the plan is to do a legion "upgrade" box which'll have the heads, pauldrons, weapons and such.

Alongside your uh, legion units in plastic.

[agile hamlet]

Okay but where’s Liber Militarum huh

[analog stump]

I dont like that this is probably replacing current age of darkness

[unkempt brook]

no "probably" about it

[foggy nimbus]

Realistically how many Spartans and mk6 do you need?

[analog stump]

More then saturshoehorn dread and saturnines is answer for me

But thats me

[orchid egret]

At least 8 Spartans

[cobalt hawk]

So does that mean plastic upgrades?

[crisp dirge]

Yes.

[pliant scroll]

Time to grab the 2E boxes while they last

[cobalt hawk]

Rad

[hollow isle]

so lucky I got four lol

[open sequoia]

The hell y’all do with the book lol?

[pliant scroll]

I've already had two, but the chance for a third or fourth....
I don't know if I could help myself.

[pliant scroll]

Sell them on

[hollow isle]

i keep them

[winged lava]

Who

[open sequoia]

On what

[pliant scroll]

Or donate them to my local Kids Games club

[open sequoia]

Fair enough

[cobalt hawk]

I’ve already got my MK6 collection I don’t need anymore

[hollow isle]

four is enough for me

[open sequoia]

Okay that’s fair

[pliant scroll]

My local high school has a warhammer club

[open sequoia]

Aight I respect you for that

[pliant scroll]

Keeps the sprogs off the streets, and more Souls for the Forges.

[open sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-handshake-animal-gif-1552983923948963323

[pliant scroll]

I quite often just buy kits and donate them, if I find them for cheap enough

[unkempt brook]

it doesn't matter to me from the perspective of expanding an additional army, but it does matter to me from the perspective that this is a much worse start to an army, unless they make both saturnines absolutely cracked rules wise

[weak wren]

I view this as more like the battlegroup, not the AoD box.

[unkempt brook]

aod was a good core to build off in any direction you want

[fresh sundial]

Yep, tho this box is large tho

[unkempt brook]

does GW view it that way?

[livid pond]

I've not seen the turret in person but that really does just look like a hydra emplacement

[weak wren]

No idea, but i think it’ll be cheaper to reflect

[analog stump]

Not as large

[crisp dirge]

I mean, it's clearly in the same vein as other SGS; it's the replacement core box, lol.

[winged lava]

But it is an edition starter box
New players will buy it thinking it gets them into the game properly

[analog stump]

Mainly cuz gun replaces spartan

[crisp dirge]

It's probably just about the same amount of plastic overall.

[analog stump]

And termis are 3 Mans. Its dtill big, But is it good big 🤔

[naive pawn]

4 sicaran cannons strapped together? light anti tank/ AA?

[weak wren]

I mean it will get you into the game with a reasonably balanced army, depending on what those terminators can actually equip

[analog stump]

I gues heresy is more often played on planet bowling Ball so that cannon might see use

[winged lava]

Not even close
AoD had 54 minis this is 50
You could add a Spartan and still be a bit less

[fresh sundial]

Larger than Battlegroup

[sinful fjord]

these 4minis are 10cathas vs 6saturnine, they probably use the same amount of sprues/plastic

[analog stump]

Its replacing current Age of Darkness most likely, not battlegroup fomobox

[fresh sundial]

Hopefully, this being fomo would be bad

We need multiple starter box options

[winged lava]

You're still missing the vehicle

[tepid lagoon]

Really good for Dark Angels too.

[livid pond]

Yeah, it's called an accelerator emplacement so that lends to it being a quad sicaran turret basically

[unkempt brook]

this being fomo would limit how many of these godforsaken terminators i see

all for the fomo model just this once

[fresh sundial]

DG also loves this. As does Fists. Basically, anything slow and bulky. Fast legions like EC, WS or AL arn't nescessarily into this

[winged lava]

I'm doing DA with it
No question
Gotta find a way to turn the mk2 into proper interemptors

[tepid lagoon]

WS will like the MK II though. As will SW.

[cobalt hawk]

I might sell my current BA army to fund my new MK2 army

[analog stump]

That wont be in conjunction. It directly says it has 3rd edition rules jn the backshot

[sinful fjord]

AL can probably do some ugly infiltration shenaningans

[unkempt brook]

whereas Literally Everyone was into aod unless you specifically didn't want beakies for theme reasons

[tepid lagoon]

But i need 120 MK II Stormwing like toast needs jam.

[weak wren]

Millions must march in orderly lines

[fresh sundial]

Sure, but they tend to favour lighter configurations. Unless they deploy in open batle....which is rare

[sinful fjord]

none of the cc legions realy liked the aod box, the bodies were good fodder to convert into despoiler/assaults but not out of the box

[tepid lagoon]

I love MK VI, it's my favorite MK. However MKIV makes the most sense for most traitors, and MKII makes the most sense for many loyalists, for most of the heresy.

[naive plover]

I gotta ask if it's a sentry gun or manned by a crew

[unkempt brook]

tacticals are perfectly fine for any legion, better than despoilers by a mile

[analog stump]

And as replacment i see it as mid box at best. Gun emplacment osnt great, and saturnineish things are marmite in best of times. And their focal poijts of the army made up in the box, where as in AoD it was mk6 not universally loved, But its just chaf infantry

[naive plover]

Too blurry to actually see the bloody thing well

[fresh sundial]

Yes, the tacs are fine, 100%.

Those mega bulky and slow terminators tho....

not sure

[orchid egret]

Hand them around my 40k group to bully them into picking up heresy

[unkempt brook]

assault box would have been nice for a discount but even within that, tacticals were the best possible option. Plus you got AoD, get 40 tacs, and you never have to buy tacs again

[fresh sundial]

Yeah, my Sally playing friend (he just started and only has a few units). And this is just perfect for him

[unkempt brook]

Then you can just focus on your CC stuff that didn't exist when aod released

[fresh sundial]

I do like those mark 2 and will for sure grab a box when they release separate.......but I don't feel the dread and terms are right for my legions

[tepid lagoon]

I mean we are supposed to get a glaive and raipers with this release still too right?

[livid pond]

Yes

[unkempt brook]

when you see photos of it, that will be the first evidence anyone here sees of that

[fresh sundial]

Man, this is a heavy duty shooting legion's wet dream

Sallies, Iron Hands, IW, Fists, DG

[cobalt hawk]

I wonder if we’ll get mk2 assault marines and all that now they’re doing new starter box

[violet dragon]

My boy is BIG

[fresh sundial]

DA probably as well (before the very dedicated first legion fans start screaming at me)

[analog stump]

Did we just get plastic imaginary armour preator before plastic tartaros preator

[violet dragon]

Did a super quick and dirty size comparison between he nu dread and leviathan using the Marines base from the box and the official Levi size picture

[tepid lagoon]

I play DA and think it's awesome for DA, at least some of it is.

[unkempt brook]

you would be correct, as they're not right for any legion - at best they're right for warmachine

[fresh sundial]

If accurate...that big

[violet dragon]

It's a real rough estimate, so I'd say +/-10% minimum

[weak wren]

Good save

[analog stump]

Intresting. Didnt they spin levithan as being biggest baddest dread tho

[crude falcon]

How much money do you think I'll be able to suck out of 40k fans and tourists for the saturnine models

It's not scalping if I want the mk2s

[pine cloud]

Thanatar sized maybe?

[tepid lagoon]

MK II in plastic is amazing for DA though.

[livid pond]

Has this picture been posted yet?

[violet dragon]

This is the Biggester baddester dread

[tepid lagoon]

That looks like a clearer picture Rabbit

[crude falcon]

That saturnine praetor is a parody of itself
Ravaged star ahh model

[grizzled prairie]

Thats why, among other reasons, im gonna pretend that dread doesnt exist

[livid pond]

Tehe

[analog stump]

I will forever question why its not tartaros and castraferrum

And i HATE castra ferrums

[cobalt hawk]

Cuz they want new models not redone models

[grizzled prairie]

A castraferrum wouldve been AMAZING, but not alongside the saturnine

[grizzled prairie]

Oh the pain

[gusty escarp]

So the mk2 "praetor might be a Chaplain or a Centurion.

[manic cradle]

Do we have any rules rumours yet?

[fresh sundial]

I don't hate the dread, those termies are pretty decent as well.......but that Praetor is ass

[cobalt hawk]

What do we think the price is

[unkempt brook]

because GW fell for the vocal community meme from people who will not buy models anyway

[unkempt brook]

more than the contents justify

[analog stump]

Fuuuck its kroot are best thing ever shit again...

[fresh sundial]

Context?

[tepid lagoon]

White Scars were mostly in MK II when the Heresy started so MK II is awesome for them.

[livid pond]

My knowledge on "theming" for this edition is shattered legions and all the shitty scrub conflicts

[fresh sundial]

That do be true ye. Which is why I said that I will get at least one box of Mark 2 marines

[analog stump]

Saturnines... Not so much

[nova wren]

As an IF player I'm reasonably happy about the box content. Now, will the quad-gun platform be usable for SolAux...

[fresh sundial]

Nope. Good for shooting legions tho

IF, IW, Sallies DG and the like love this box

[weak wren]

Dont the WS have one of the rare levi sculpts? Obviously they’re not so anti-heavy units.

[violet dragon]

Counterpoint, WS paradoxically love mk2

[fresh sundial]

Fits them like a glove

[fresh sundial]

Yes we do......for some reason

Even tho we lorewise hate dreads

[unkempt brook]

the people jacking off saturnine armor 24/7 are not people who are going to buy full price GW models
either they're cheap enough to 3D print everything and thus already had access to saturnine that looks better than this garbage, or for the vast majority of them, their entire exposure to warhammer is youtube lore videos and they saw some narrator hype up the walking eggs as the greatest thing ever

[fresh sundial]

99% of the time

[pine cloud]

I mean, I bet it'll still be sold out day 1 of pre-order (unless they do the guarantee per order)

[unkempt brook]

every GW kit sells out day 1 of preorder

[fresh sundial]

These days, at least 20% of the WH community is people who live on Ytube, own zero models and only watch Bricky (who is not bad by any means) and Weshammer

[unkempt brook]

as long as scalpers exist that's meaningless

[weak wren]

I think stocks will be fine, AoD was fine. They learned from Leviathan to overstock launch boxes.

[teal mantle]

AoD was in stock for 3 years straight
I see no reason for this to be out of stock. especially since it's also filled with niche models

[pine cloud]

If they do the "made to order' like system they've done for a few sets, that would be best

[fresh sundial]

What was that box before Leviathan again? That one was insanely scalped as well

[teal mantle]

Indomitus I think

[fresh sundial]

Yep, that was the one

[crisp dirge]

Less overstocking, more slightly exceeding the normal "we produce x amount of stock to cover the initial cost of production, plus profit."

[fresh sundial]

They had to do a second print-run for that one

[analog stump]

It was geniuenly amazing box

[cobalt hawk]

Just make everyone pretend to not be hyped for the new box and then they won’t scalp it

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[fresh sundial]

But eh, I have no interest in the box really, (maybe the termies tho, double shooting termies with mega guns seem kinda interesting, espescially as AL termies are pretty mid)

[analog stump]

There is need to pretend?

[fresh sundial]

Mark 2 is what I am mostly looking forward to

[low prism]

I kinda think it's hilarious the saturnine termies are like 2-heads taller than the Mk2 marines

[analog stump]

Its coming with third edition

[cobalt hawk]

More like half a marine taller

They’re like 2 marines stacked ontop of eachother

[analog stump]

We know not how they will harm our lerneans

[fresh sundial]

if I had to guess for the rules: T5, 3 wounds, 4++, but slow as sin, like 4 inch movement. Inexorable and relentless. Bulky 3

[low prism]

sorry I meant their head is two heads up. the shoulders make it comically big

[fresh sundial]

Literally our Lerns do nothing but sit back in a corner on a objective and take potshots with the ol' conversion beamer

[analog stump]

Just gonna leave it here

[crisp dirge]

Just gonna.

https://discord.com/channels/832649952043204659/1315338314982756445

[analog stump]

Its on the saturnine thingy box, a content of this box. Shouldnt it be here O.o?

[fresh sundial]

Just gonna what? I''m sure people who need to wear glasses have seen clearer stuff without their said glasses

[agile hamlet]

Tragic truthnuke

[flat fjord]

I don't see where it says third edition

Someone refine that shit

One pixel per eye for the text is insufficient

[fresh sundial]

I was never big on Saturnine. Having said that, I like these compared to the general 3d sculpt take on them. Their legs are bulky and that makes em better proportioned. I've seen many renditions that had major "Shrek-posture" syndrome

Not my favorite terms by any means, but they are ok

[river briar]

The coffin kneepads were cool, I'll give the old version that

[fresh sundial]

Sure, but the lanky legs make it look comically out of proportion. Like a dude is wearing a badly fitted entertainer costume

[river briar]

True

[low halo]

I'll see if I can get anyone semi-local to split it with me because I actually like the praetor model, I've already got a conversion idea lined up for him

[tepid lagoon]

I'm gonna buy 3, and like 3 more boxes of MK II. I love MK II. And for my DA a bunch of exotic stuff and exotic energy weapons makes a lot of sense.

[low halo]

^thats about my thoughts on it, also wargear options depending maybe we can maybe destroyers in mostly plastic now

[pine cloud]

I'll defo be trying to split for the Dread and Disintigrator weapons xD

[ashen python]

Can’t wait for the platform to release solo

[agile hamlet]

I’m dreading a new edition man.

I play militia and if they get squatted I think I’m abandoning ship

[fresh sundial]

That's a whole army right there

[agile hamlet]

Still picking up the damn pieces after what happened to my Beasts of Chaos in aos

[livid pond]

So now I'm out of work meeting and can brain better. Expect a slightly brought forward schedule for things, James is not a happy boy and has been uh talking to people with copies of things

[fresh sundial]

I don't think GW would squat Militia tho. I would worry about the rules they might get. Cause in second that was not it

[unkempt brook]

the silver lining is that if the new edition sucks I'll be saving a lot of money

[fresh sundial]

Wasn't it literally the same thing as with the launch of the HH2 box?

Early leak, finding out how it happened etc

[sinful fjord]

yes, james realy hates these leaks

dallas open preview also got scrapped

[surreal pendant]

So the Areknae Quad Accelerator Platform is able to get up and walk to a new location to redeploy looking at it.

The legs are articulated and it has feet. This thing is a proto-defiler

[livid pond]

Maybe Thursday showing

[fresh sundial]

Not doing the preview there anymore?

[orchid egret]

Dallas open preview was next week right? The 399 hours is counting down to the Thursday after

Assuming it's a real countdown 🤷‍♂️

[livid pond]

It was meant to be shown at adepticon originally.

[sinful fjord]

https://web.cvent.com/event/4928ecba-01fb-4110-981d-1971e98f0847/websitePage:a4f4b816-ba6a-40e1-b6fd-d93f57e84581

[fresh sundial]

I understand that they hate it, but their system is just not leak proof. Why are they giving it to 3rd party before reveal anyway? That's asking for trouble.

Also

Isn't HH launchboxes leaking just tradition at this point?

[sinful fjord]

"With some changes to the preview schedule, we're shifting the Thursday night activity from a preview night to an epic Game Night - and hopefully starting a new tradition for years to come!"

[winged lava]

IIRC they never announced a preview for Dallas

[fresh sundial]

[tepid lagoon]

I mostly collect and stuff now and I just like painting. Its good for my mental health, and I love MK II. I will use most of it for DA, but also for loyalist DG (Dusk Raiders), SW, and maybe loyalist World Eatters.

[fresh sundial]

Meaning.....the HH will be shown thursday evening?

[sinful fjord]

maybe, i dont know

[winged lava]

The 28th with the countdown
I have no idea why they would push it back

[winged moon]

much as im a little sad we're not gonna be further meme'd upon by hearsay, it's probably better this way
what two months of no heresy thursdays does to a mf

[winged lava]

Eh I was having fun
You gotta admit hearsay was great at building hype

[real hinge]

I bet they look great in red with black trim and the Aquila and helmet in gold

[trail steppe]

…and horushearsay is gone

[winged moon]

tbh it kinda felt difficult to tell whether it was all in good spirits or whether they were taking the piss out of us
maybe that was the idea lmao

[winged lava]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-por-que-no-gif-23322568

[gusty escarp]

Everything has happened according to the predictive model I have made

I can now SEE THE FUTURE!

[livid pond]

Well you see post adepticon reveal content creators were going to start posting models they had been working on

But the date got pushed and no showing off things

[gusty escarp]

I am a fucking GENIUS

[winged lava]

Did you break into the delivery van?

[peak mauve]

it was fun for the firt two days but got tired of it pretty quick

[gusty escarp]

I am a predictive analyst god amongst men

[runic sleet]

He broke into that van 100%

On the scene analysis

[spark harbor]

Has anything leaked since the two pictures?

[winged moon]

various rules rumours but nothing concrete afaik

well-corroborated rumours, but rumours nonetheless

[sterile fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/boris-grishenko-boris-i-am-invincible-invincible-cocky-gif-26504180

[teal mantle]

?

[winged moon]

don't do drugs kids

[tawny pendant]

Do we know why it got bumped out of adepticon?

[teal mantle]

before and after fent

[winged moon]

the ket epidemic that's ruining our streets

[livid pond]

Because y'all were mean to me when I posted rumors so I told them to pull it.

[viral belfry]

Is it?

[livid pond]

No, not a scooby

[winged lava]

I'd be curious about the rules rumors

[winged moon]

#1315338314982756445

[naive pawn]

The locked us out

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[hollow isle]

sooo… that means no preview, right?

from what I can understand

[viral belfry]

I can still get on hearsay

[spark harbor]

Nah. The current obliterators are corrupted centurion suits if anything. The other model of them very much as centurion feet

[tawny pendant]

Turns out the preview was cancelled before the leak? Weird?

[livid pond]

Y'all were mean to me yesterday so I said no treats

[hollow isle]

it was?

[livid pond]

It was cancelled last night, people who paid to attend were notified

[tawny pendant]

My bad, I'll turn down the threats a little

[livid pond]

Shortly after the 399 hour countdown was posted, I think they intended for the show to be pure 30k but seeing as the Dallas event is more mixed content they probably thought pure 30k wouldn't go down well

[river briar]

Ngl I need a saturnine terminator plushie, they're friend shaped

[hollow isle]

damn

[spice igloo]

All super heavies!

[naive pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-tank-soviet-t-28-heart-gif-7256138978809015038

[agile hamlet]

I’m not holding my breath. They told me Beasts of Chaos were staying in AoS too

[winged moon]

in GW's endless crusade to make sure that daemons are actually unusable in every game system, ruinstorm are squatted again

[teal mantle]

:( I wanted to make one for my friend to use his sylvaneth

Anyways, I think the chain bayonet on the MK-II marine is of a different design to the MK-VI one

[fresh sundial]

Honestly, the worst part about this, is that it means that Valrak was 100% correct

[winged moon]

love him or hate him, you can always count on him to know a guy who knows a guy whose brother's uncle works for GW

[flat fjord]

It helps that he lives in the UK

It's pretty easy to know a guy who knows THE guy when you can span the country with a 15 hour drive

[agile hamlet]

I dislike Valrak for being the archetypal soyjak 40k fan but his rumours are accurate unfortunately

[flat fjord]

"Oi, it's me boi, James workshop, Oi bruvna, what be cooking in the kitchie"

"I ran into me boy, in the loo, having a right proper pissah, and I look at him and I says "what cooking in the kitche m8?"

[teal mantle]

why is it the worst?
It's the best, that means that whoever has been saving up while believing Valrak has not been misled

[flat fjord]

Because social media ruins everything

[unkempt brook]

it's the worst because now it means we have to hear him more

[flat fjord]

Boycott Valrak

Tell everyone to do something else with their time.

[teal mantle]

and the problem is?
He's been constantly right. I'm happy because it means what he says is trustworthy and I can put money aside for plastic crack without doubting the rumours. And that REALLY helps me

[unkempt brook]

the problem is people won't shut up about whatever he's saying at this point
even in this server, with a dedicated rumors containment channel, it spills over constantly

[teal mantle]

well I can do nothing about that unfortunately
And it's bound to happen

[unkempt brook]

it's bound to happen unless people don't keep relitigating the same rumors to insert their dreams and nightmares into their expectations

[fresh sundial]

He is getting arrogant about it. Tho, I was half joking

[unkempt brook]

make a thread, collate the known information from reliable sources that publish their sources, and start shutting down the rest of the mess

[teal mantle]

was he? I think it's more about joking. Or "banter" as he calls it

[unkempt brook]

functionally indistinguishable

[teal mantle]

if you publish a source you literally invalidate any meaning of rumours or leaks.

• What you want is official marketing,
  rumours don't function like that. If you divulge a source you stop everything from the source

[unkempt brook]

nope. you say you have a box in hand you've seen? post a picture. until then the "word" of anyone is irrelevant

this box "leak" is a perfectly fine leak in terms of reliability imo. hard to fake an entire box to this degree, with evidence it's real.

(this is not condoning "steal packages from GW", to be clear, just "posting evidence of claims")

[weak wren]

It’s not always possible. You might physically be in the presence of a product, but you’re not alone and at liberty to whip out the phone camera.

Do you just say nothing?

[ashen python]

The best you can do is give codenames. M y favorite from other communties being one guy known as "Highly Suspect"

[unkempt brook]

yes
if you can't back it up then don't say shit

[ashen python]

Just so you know what's coming from which leaker

[gusty escarp]

I'm pretty sure he is the thing the 40k soyjack meme is based on

[ashen python]

Like, "this leak came from brother fraudulus, and this came from tehc adep leaky" to better tell what's coming from whats, rather than it just being a pot to pull from

[teal mantle]

Lore wise, I guess Saturnine terminators have SOME super shaky precedent
But what about the Dreadnought? Will this be another Femstodes "they were always here" type of situation? Or will they say this is the predecessor of the Leviathan?

[gaunt bay]

The leaker is just a Saturnine whistleblower

[pine cloud]

I mean the Kratos just kinda happened right? 🤷

[dim lynx]

It was two sicaran turrets glue together wtf

[civic violet]

So did the leviathan

ROFL

[weak wren]

New dreads being invented is not new. Deredeos are very recent, and Contemptors were only invented for Badab

[teal mantle]

that's not true
Contemptors first appeared in that visions of heresy card art

[ashen python]

Kinfa, but those were both recontextualizations of older ideas.

[winged moon]

like most things, if it was vaguely alluded to in rogue trader art even once, it gets a heresy release someday

[ashen python]

Contemptors were one of the loadouts for what we call the furibundus pattern now, and the deredeo is based on the dreanought in space crusade.

This saturnine dread seems to be a complete fabrication

[winged moon]

saturnine dreads have no precedent, but nothing has precedence until it's retconned to have always been there

[ashen python]

Kratos is loosely based on some tanks from RT

[gusty escarp]

Neither did leviathans

[weak wren]

Or Centurions

[ashen python]

The names contemtor and deredeo come from the OG dreads, the derdeo model is based on these guys

[grizzled elm]

Yeah everyone just seems to assume that units not present in 1.0 are "being shoehorned in"

but in reality they were still inventing plenty of units all the way through 1.0

[ashen python]

I just want a reasonable explination for them, that's all I want.

[pine cloud]

Cool dread goes pew pew, works for me xD

[tame anchor]

The ruinous warp powers of capitalism alter the timeline at their whim?

[ashen python]

Like, i would rather have had saturnine be the original terminators. Like, the uparmoured version fo the void suits termies are derived from. Would justify the name to, as the saturn shipyards were the main source of the imperial fleet during the early GC

[grizzled elm]

The reasonable explanation is that the studio who decides what is and what is not part of the horus heresy have said they are part of the horus heresy and we just have to take that in our stride

[ashen python]

I meant in lore. 😒

[south moon]

https://thehorushearsay.com/

Its there now too

[weak wren]

They pay people who design models, and they did their job. Thats good enough for me

[ashen python]

It's fine to fabricate it out of nothing, i just information on why it exists.

Don't be like the kratos and just drop it in with no background info

[weak wren]

Presumably you’ll get that in their little lore blurb

[ashen python]

I'm not seeing it

[teal mantle]

lol

[ashen python]

okay there it is

Honestly Hearsay just comes off as mean spirited to me. I dunno

[south moon]

The pic theu have used of the desintergrator vet seems better quality or is that me?

[hidden creek]

No it definitely is

[south moon]

Nah its just them bein silly with the bri'ish humour

Hence the dig at the french

[teal mantle]

It is better quality

[hidden creek]

Suspicious now if they were behind the leak all along, but the cancelling of the preview show would be very odd in that case

[south moon]

Either they got good photoshop stuff or they just used a new one.hmm

[gaunt bay]

They still releasing a cinematic?

[tame anchor]

I think it's just damage control, they did edit down the photos

[south moon]

For sure

[teal mantle]

it 100% is better definition

[gaunt bay]

“I’ve always wanted this”

[south moon]

Cant wait for a Isstvann cinematic piece
Gonna be dope

[cobalt hawk]

No overlapping leg plates

That’s segmentum

[tame anchor]

We kind of already knew that from the mk3 redesign?

[cobalt hawk]

Don’t think so, lots of ppl were saying it’s still overlapping a bit ago

[teal mantle]

Hibou Khan's armour wasn't overlapping

[cobalt hawk]

I prefer the new look over the overlapping

[tame anchor]

Okay, lemme rephrase - it's not surprising in light of the mk3 redesign

[naive plover]

Given all the guns in this box and that it was to be at Dallas, maybe this was for a big US pitch, call it Y'awllhammer or something lmao

[teal mantle]

same, the old one (not the artwork, the resin cast) made it look like a bad quality sprue mould with acetone
This looks much sharper

[cobalt hawk]

Why’d u put a w in yall lmao

[naive plover]

Closer to how I've heard the average spam say it, in fairness

[tepid lagoon]

Contemptors and Deredeos were furbundus variants that got re-imagined.

[gaunt bay]

British trying to say it in their accent

US southern vocabulary but in Cockney

[teal mantle]

a comment from Instagram about the Dreadnought

[south moon]

Thats what i thought haha

[cerulean solar]

From Horus hearsay haha

[spice igloo]

Holy shit things accelerated over here

[open sequoia]

damn insulting the guys camera work

[sonic spoke]

Brilliant work from GWs marketing, honestly the best possible reaction they could have had to a leak lol

[radiant stratus]

in fairness it was so bad, like come on, you couldnt have taken two seconds to zoom?

[open sequoia]

oh dont get me wrong its terrible, still tho lol

[runic sleet]

Tangental note, looks like you can mix and match weapon choices on the termies which is cool

[nova wren]

And they're nott purely ranged platforms, which is also cool. Lernean are in shamble though

[tiny shoal]

Dont worry next edition lernaeans will be good I swear. 3.0 will be their time

Best termis in game

[runic sleet]

They'll gain the 40k sticky objective trait

But their melee weapons will go up another 5 points

[tiny shoal]

Theyre going to use the first phase playtest rules for them. WS/BS5 and they get a second legion trait of their choice

[open sequoia]

they are basically mini contemptors

[tiny shoal]

Ya I like how they blend the design elements of termis and dreads

[runic sleet]

"You pay 15 points for a thunder hammer, I pay 20 points for a power fist, we are not the same"

[open sequoia]

i reckon they will get more weapon options as the edition goes on

[tiny shoal]

Still not totally sold on the big ass shoulder plates, but Im a fan of the rest

[runic sleet]

Yep, basically heresy dev centurions

[open sequoia]

who knows, maybe we get more updated terminators

[runic sleet]

I am a sucker for the goofy oversized design of the saturnine stuff

[open sequoia]

and than a terminator weapon pack

[tiny shoal]

Something something do breachers first

[open sequoia]

the clock is once again reset

[runic sleet]

Still 90% sure these are breacher charges

I mean they look nothing like the actual breacher charges that resin breachers get but still

[violet dragon]

I desperately want to know what the guns on the Saturnine dread are

[ashen python]

I think they're ammo for the disintgrators

[viral belfry]

Plasma and disintegrator?

[runic sleet]

Nipple disintegrators too I think

[violet dragon]

The numbers, mason

[runic sleet]

Yeah this is more than likely the case in hindsight

[violet dragon]

I need to know if we're gonna have another knight asterius situation where it's plasma cannon is the size of a dreadnought but has the same profile as the GPC

[tiny shoal]

As someone who plays Custodes, I'm really hoping it's not disintegrators lol

[radiant stratus]

time to suffer banana boi

[spice meadow]

I'm all in on disintegrators next edition

[ashen python]

I mean, marines have had disntegrators, this was just the only model for them:

[tiny shoal]

Oh ya they've always had them, but access has never been that wide

[ashen python]

that and the main way of taking them en-masse (nullificators) were hopelessly niche

[naive plover]

"Their accent"? Now please, there's at least 7 in Scotland alone 😂

[tiny shoal]

It was what? Seeker sergeants, ICs, nullifactors basically?

[radiant stratus]

A kit based on that style would sell so hard

[ashen python]

Foot destroyer's could take 1-in-5

[radiant stratus]

id buy four

[violet dragon]

They're real for that dig at the french

[tiny shoal]

Right forgot them

[spice meadow]

Vets in pods probably going to ruin someones day

[violet dragon]

I totally wasn't already doing that or anything

[unreal flicker]

Better look at the MkII.

[pure wraith]

Yep, that's Mark II alright.

[spice meadow]

Exactly what people thought they'd look like yup

[civic violet]

Two sets of disintegrators

[wheat steppe]

Disintegrators looking awesome

[nova wren]

20 disintegrators

[livid pond]

New transfer as well

That white cross

[viral belfry]

No d18

[pure wraith]

Do correct me if I'm wrong.

Disintegrators are just imperium-brand gauss weapons, aye?

[viral belfry]

Meh basically ig

[civic violet]

Instant death death rays

[ashen python]

It's not wholely new. it's likely the same one from the command squads

[tiny shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[gusty escarp]

Gauss disintergrates layer by layer. Disintergrators just dust people.

[real hinge]

Different disintegrators though, by the pixelated looks of it. Regular handheld, underslung and maybe combi, too

[livid pond]

No it's not

[nova wren]

Imperial Fists still on the decal

[pure wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-disintegrate-half-life2-hl2-gif-23941439

[livid pond]

That's a new round cross thing

[nova wren]

IF keeps winning

[civic violet]

I expect 3E to nerf us

[livid pond]

Oh wait it's not round my bad

[civic violet]

Storm shield saturnines are banned GW said

[real hinge]

Also the first time we actually get pure disintegrators. The only on the special edition marine is a combi-disintegrator I think

[tiny shoal]

Took away their deep strike and gave it to night lords

[civic violet]

Everyone gets solerites through saturnines GW said (prob)

[civic violet]

Rip nullificators prob won’t come back rules wise

[spice meadow]

Good thing i didn't make any yet, was going to soon

[tiny shoal]

Nullifactors are more than just the disintegrator unit, so disintegrators being more common doesnt mean they need to cease to exist.

Plus, back in 1.0 nullifactors didnt even have disintegrators from what Im seeing, so the weapon is hardly tied to their core identity

[fresh dagger]

saturnine should have vehicle style shooting that forces it to look at the target (itd be funny)

[viral belfry]

If my saturnine have an AV facing

[tiny shoal]

Imagine if the new dread worked like a knight

[runic sleet]

Be Saturnine terminator with AV
Opponent rolls a pen
Explodes

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-15313749163340250467

[tiny shoal]

But hey, S8 explosion. Get close and maybe you take someone out with you

[fresh dagger]

my opinion on Saturnine would instantly become positive if this was true

[runic sleet]

Saturnine terminators just becoming the marine equivalent of vorax 😭

[fresh dagger]

they come in 3, soooo

[runic sleet]

For the record

I forgot that marines can take vorax

I run bretheren of iron, I have a ton of mech painted up as sallies

And I make a clown of myself

[real hinge]

More like Slowrax

[tiny dew]

Gonna paint them in alpha legion colors and call em blastoise marines

[runic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-terminator-fire-explosion-skeleton-gif-16779623

[wild cove]

Maybe the reason there's a quad auto cannon turret is because they intend to make flyers better

So like the new tarantula turrets they're giving people stuff to help counter it

[upper shoal]

Maybe so? But I would not hold my breath personally

[tiny shoal]

Big gun cool

[upper shoal]

Yeah beeg hydra platform for the funni

[cobalt hawk]

50 miniatures

[cobalt hawk]

I hope not

[winged lava]

I think what would help the new models fit in better is if they give special versions of them to a few legions
So far all main infantry units had at least one legion that turned them into a special unit
If we get told that saturnines have always been there but no one tried to adapt them to their own doctrine, that's just weird

[tiny shoal]

Maybe they'll be the first of these plastic legion specifics that GW said might happen in the future

[runic sleet]

Salamanders will introduce the innovation of "mount a 3rd plasma cannon on their heads"

[tiny shoal]

Now you can roll three 1s and cook your head and both arms at the same time

Now that's efficiency

[fresh dagger]

utterly genius

[runic sleet]

Thank you, thank you, I stole that idea myself 😄

[wild cove]

I mean I feel like it would be a good way to balance something that directly counters air by making it only really useful against air and not just a jack of all trades that happens to also be great at air

[wild cove]

A nice even rotisserie space marine

Instead of a hot on either side but cold in the middle one

[low sandal]

I have to be honest
GW showing the leaks on The Horus Hearsay is hilarious

I think we're at least at 4d chess by now

[wild cove]

Yeah I think they mightve tempted fate a little too much making fun of the leaks with that website

Only to have some guy just blitz their entire ad campaign

[tiny shoal]

That would have happened anyway, regardless of what GW does

[unreal flicker]

At least they can have fun with said blitz.

Yeah, remember the 2.0 box leaked something like nine months in advance.

[civic violet]

Good

It was fuckin awful

And felt insulting

Glad the based British leakers leaked it

[wild cove]

The 2.0 leak was a little different in that it was like tiny bits and pieces of leaks that got pieced together

[runic sleet]

There was the whole playtester rules leak thing too

Honestly I could really go for that right now

[civic violet]

Bring back 4 HP predators from those leaks

[wild cove]

I wouldn't mind the phase 1 thousand sons rules...

[crisp dirge]

You need to learn to live with British humour.

[civic violet]

Guess the British themselves couldn’t

[wild cove]

Or the ultimate British humor was to piss take the piss take by taking the piss.

Now GW must one up the piss take further

As is tradition

[runic sleet]

Are you talking about British Cuisine or Humor?

[agile hamlet]

Do we have any rules leaks for 3rd

[wild cove]

Nah it contains too much micro plastics to be British cuisine

[wild cove]

You got an entire boxset leak and a third edition leak at the same time

[viral belfry]

The ultimate british humour is hating the french and as such they have already done that

[wild cove]

That is a piss take

[runic sleet]

/jk

[agile hamlet]

Rules. I play militia damn it I don’t care for marines

[unreal flicker]

As far as I'm aware, zero rules leaks thus far.

[runic sleet]

tbf if bolters went down to s3 for real, that'd be a pretty big buff to sol aux/militia

[wild cove]

We won't probably get rules until the event or the count down

[orchid egret]

But it'll be in the other thread if we do

[wild cove]

And even then milita are niche for the time being

[agile hamlet]

S3 bolters would indeed be absolutely hilarious for militia

[tepid lagoon]

It looks like they have those; brown pouches and silver round bits, on some of the guys with disentigrators.

[wild cove]

Hopefully milita get out of pdf army hell

And demons

[agile hamlet]

Hey I’m happy with free rules even if a bespoke book would be nice

We’re still missing the Warp Cult half of militia tho

[runic sleet]

It's so weird too cuz warp cults has a page on the gw webstore

[livid pond]

U wot M8
U taking the Michael out of my homour

[agile hamlet]

We still can’t take the one tank that was on the Militia and Cults store page

[runic sleet]

Okay I swaer to god they did

[gusty escarp]

What do they do with it all after they've taken it?

[agile hamlet]

We USED to and it had the Carnodon, which we can’t use

Tbh if militia get axed I’ll happily take my horde of cultists and beastmen suddenly having 4+ and carnodons

[runic sleet]

Ahh it's still there, just under the forces of the emperor

(To be clear this doesn't go against what you guys said, I just thought I was tripping balls)

[agile hamlet]

Huh weird for some reason I thought it was gone

[runic sleet]

Me too

I mean that store page is basically a joke anyways, but the fact that GW may of had plans of properly reintroducing warp cults

[unreal flicker]

The Warp Cult part of Militia's already represented by the Traitor Provenances. 2.0 just didn't carry over the Demiurge side-grade to the Force Commander and the Spawn iirc (which they should have but here we are).

[agile hamlet]

The traitor provenances largely suck and we’re still spawnless unfortunately

[violet dragon]

Because I like suffering I decided to try and scale the Saturnine armor

Rough estimate puts it at taller, but less girthy than a centurion

[teal mantle]

why would you not wear a helmet when you're already wearing a tank...

[violet dragon]

Not wearing a helmet gives you a survivability buff in the 31st and 41st millenniums

[grizzled elm]

The comedy part being that nearly all of the units on that page are not playable by militia, save for the gorgon

[uneven plover]

same #suffering

[hidden creek]

Just noticed how ribbed those pauldrons are (for my pleasure)

[runic sleet]

Bad Dragon Salamanders

[hidden creek]

the more I look at it, the more convinced I am to swap out that praetor's hammer too

[winged lava]

Fisting is 300 bucks

[runic sleet]

Hammering would be $350 then?

[hidden creek]

I turned my whole house into the Imperial Dungeon

[runic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-custodes-pillar-men-gif-15519847

[winged lava]

militia runs away
Overseer: "FUCKING SLAVES GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE"

[cobalt hawk]

Ima just use centurions as saturine termies

[runic sleet]

What about using a consul instead?

[cobalt hawk]

Looks like he’s wearing a mk4 helmet almost

Mk4 confirmed chat

[foggy nimbus]

I really doubt it’s mk4 if all the other normal power armoured infantry are in mk2

[runic sleet]

Kinda looks like the tartaros head a bit

Might be in the same vein

Since the tart head looks pretty close to the mk4 head

[full abyss]

I mean I assume that when they made a whole bespoke set of terminator armour they also gave it a new helmet

[violet dragon]

It almost looks like it's got triple lenses in the visor

Wish I had something to draw with nearby to visualize it better

[ashen python]

I have to say this guy nailed it

Literally the only thing off is the leg studs

[violet dragon]

1 billion hours paint

[uneven plover]

knees seem to be still there / round though, right?

[unreal flicker]

My initial thought was the Sally MkVI heads, but that's probably too on the nose.

[hidden creek]

Frankly I prefer this multi-lens design over what I think it probably is, which is a Mk3 style "rim" on the brow of the helmet

[violet dragon]

Appreciated, surely my take on the design is correct and nothing will change

[unreal flicker]

I hope so, because I like yours more than what I imagined it might be post-potatocam. 😂

[pliant scroll]

The Horus Hearsay site has updated

It is absolutely amazing

[violet dragon]

My buddys take is that those are actually studs and the lenses are below them

[glacial widget]

I must agree with your buddy here tbh 👀

[ashen python]

The new ones seem to have the rounded square shape that that WS guy has

[low sandal]

From u/Gronneta on Reddit, idk if they're the OG source

[winged moon]

that puts it at like, telemon height if true
that'd be pretty nuts

[low sandal]

Were telemons around in 30k?

[tiny shoal]

Yes

[winged moon]

predominantly in fact

[tiny shoal]

Telemons were originally a 30k unit before being ported to 40k

[winged moon]

comparative to 40k

[low sandal]

They do look quite telemon-y, I wonder if there's a lore link here

[winged moon]

both based on the same source material tbf, the telemon has a lot of love letters to the original saturnine design

mainly them big olllllllllllll shoulders

my main hope is that if they're willing to make a marine dreadnought this dumb and big (affectionate) that a plastic telemon is entirely within the realm of possibility

if heresy has done as well as it seems then plastic custodes seem like an inevitability if GW like printing money

[low sandal]

God I love these new Saturnines
I've said it a few times but I am genuinely just in love with these designs
In the same way I am the 40k Emperor's Children, my favourite models GW ever made

[winged moon]

i quite like them
i definitely understand where people are coming from when they dislike them, but i like them
saw someone else say that they have a lot of that "mechanicus repurposed industrial equipment" vibe and i'm inclined to agree

[low sandal]

Yeah they're like
The stuff I like about mechanicus
Without the pain of building mechanicus

Tiny dudes and my shaky hands don't mix

[ashen python]

I wish they weee more crude than advanced

[low sandal]

I mean I was definitely expecting cruder but I like this approach too
I'm sure there'll be ways to make them look more crude if you want, though I'm not good with that stuff

[ashen python]

I wanted saturnine to be the original terminators. Liek, these are those void suits terminators were based on but with guns and some extra plating. It would justify the name too, as saturn was the home of the navy’s main shipyard during the warly great crusade

Terminator equivlent to early armoured cars or a combat bulldozer

[crisp dirge]

https://discord.com/channels/832649952043204659/1371887295518605453

[crisp dirge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d8R2lk-5pw