#3K IW Perty List

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muted ridge
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Hey guys
My friend group has started trying out heresy, dipping toes into different factions to try everything out. This was my first attempt at a IW HoO list with Perty (we’ve been trying out the primarches so I’m pretty set on keeping him in).
HoO seems to focus on 2 aspects, a bunch of infantry shootin’ shrap and some tanks. The idea with this list is the Warsmith+Iron Circle as well as the Perty + Command Squad Land Raider head in while my fat Tac squads with Apothecaries advance up and control points. The tanks and Levi provide fire support.

Rite of War

Hammer of Olympia

HQ

Praetor, Warsmith

Elites

Apothecarion Detachment
-3x Apothecary

Iron Circle Maniple
-3x Domitar-ferrum

Troops

20x Tactical Squad
-20x Shrapnel Bolter

20x Tactical Squad
-20x Shrapnel Bolter

20x Tactical Squad
-20x Shrapnel Bolter

Heavy Support

Land Raider Proteus

Leviathan Dreadnought
-2x Storm Cannon, 2x Volkite Calivers, Phosphex Discharger

Predator Squadron
-2x Predator, Gravis Lascannon, 2x Lascannon

Primarch

Perturabo
-Forgebreaker Desecrated

-5x Command Squad, Cataphractii, 5x Thunder Hammer, 1x Standard Bearer

I'm not entirely sure if the list has the punch that I want, nor am I sure the loadouts are correct. I opted for Command Squad as a retinue since they give line and Iron Circle are too expensive to have as retinue in 3k

dusky crest
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Perturabo is too big for the land raider

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If you want him to be in a proteus land raider, you'll have to take 3 teminators instead of 5 for the command squad

muted ridge
dusky crest
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I thought he was Bulky (6) lmao

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You can take 4 terminators then

muted ridge
dusky crest
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It's 4

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I was thinking of Mortarion

muted ridge
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guess the logos is slimmer than we thought

dusky crest
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Do you have enough spare points for artificer armor and vexillas on the tac squads?

muted ridge
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have 55 left over

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with -1 command squad

dusky crest
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Do you need the volkites on the levi?

muted ridge
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dont really know, was kinda shooting in the dark

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i can take them off

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whats the benefit of artificier armor for tac squads? its just for the sargeant right, i've seen lots of people putting it on but never understood why

dusky crest
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You can assign AP3 wounds to the Sgt without losing him

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It doesn't seem like it matters, but it does

muted ridge
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thats awesome

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will make that change, thanks

dusky crest
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I have been dissapointed by Iron Circle

muted ridge
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thats disappointing to hear

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damn

dusky crest
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They're way too expensive

muted ridge
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what would you suggest over them?

dusky crest
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Dominators or dreads

muted ridge
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(i dont own anything in this list so i dont mind switching to anything)

muted ridge
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or just walk em

dusky crest
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Land raider

muted ridge
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true

dusky crest
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My problem with Iron Circle is they're supposed to be analogus to Contemptors, but they're not WS5 and they don't have a 2+ save

muted ridge
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right, that makes sense

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reading their stat lines it looks like contemptors are just better

dusky crest
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Oh yeah

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If you are cutting the iron circle for Dominators, you can also cut the Praetor for a herald or chaplain

muted ridge
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oh shit i had no idea the herald existed

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this is awesome

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i doubt i'll need a command squad then if i can just attach the herald to the doms

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they can ride in a spartan with perty

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gets me another pred

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Rite of War

Hammer of Olympia

HQ

Centurion, Herald
-Legion Standard, Shrapnel Pistol

Elites

Apothecarion Detachment
-3x Apothecary

10x Dominators
-10x Thunder Hammer

Troops

20x Tactical Squad
-20x Shrapnel Bolter
-1x Vexilla, 1x Artificier Armour

20x Tactical Squad
-20x Shrapnel Bolter

-1x Vexilla, 1x Artificier Armour

20x Tactical Squad
-20x Shrapnel Bolter
-1x Vexilla, 1x Artificier Armour

Heavy Support

Land Raider Spartan

  • 1x Hunter-Killer, Searchlights (I had 10 pts idk what else to do with them lol)

Leviathan Dreadnought
-2x Storm Cannon, Phosphex Discharger

Predator Squadron
-3x Predator, Gravis Lascannon, 2x Lascannon

Primarch

Perturabo
-Forgebreaker Desecrated

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much happier with how that looks

dusky crest
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Take Searchlights on everything that can take them

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You'll be glad you took them if you ever play against Night Lords

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Or if you ever play Night Fighing

muted ridge
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sure, will do

dusky crest
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You have alot of anti-tank, but I unless I’m missing something you’re lacking some anti-elite

muted ridge
dusky crest
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Dominators are good, but that comes from how cheap they are

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They're not going to regularly beat Varagyr or Knights Cenobium

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Something like a deredeo or 2 scorpius tanks are what I prefer to kill terminators

muted ridge
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truee

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okay ill try to retool for that

dusky crest
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Deredeo with the plasma weapon specifically

dusky crest
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Also Hunter-Killers are not worth the plastic they're made from

obsidian magnet
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Can't do HoO without either a praetor or delegatus

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Personally I prefer 15 man tac squads over 20. I find 20 very unwieldy. If you do so, you can pick up a nemesis bolter recon squads

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Best bang for your buck anti elite is probably the contemptor, but plasma is good too. Anything with breaching or rending and/or more than 8 strength will do the job

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I think 3 preds in a squadron is overkill. They're great but you're gonna have a hard time moving them around in cohesion

obsidian magnet
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I'd go with 2 max and get a lascannon javelin instead. Great value for the points and it's fast attack so you're rarely gonna fight for the slot

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Ah pert

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That's right

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I stand corrected

dusky crest
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You're good

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muted ridge
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i agree that sabres prob fit better lol but javs are better

obsidian magnet
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I've run both. I love my sabres but they only really shine if you're opponent is taking sicarans, preds, light vehicles etc. amazing at screwing over casemate vehicles like vindicator or venators that have weak sides and have to pivot to fire. I use them a lot with iron Fire. Being able to bomb 32inches down the board really shocks people. You can use it to tactically block avenues

Although they do, do work into dreads. They have a rough time into land raiders which proliferate most lists

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I haven't tried the neutron sabres but those would pretty good anti elite I think

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I also really like rapiers in an iron warrior list. Every flavor except the grav

obsidian magnet
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Swingy?

dusky crest
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I have rolled one too many gets hot and popped my own sabre

obsidian magnet
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That's what's kept me from building some

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Ah

dusky crest
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They're good

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But I prefer the consistency of the autocannon

obsidian magnet
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I've gotten, got by Knight cenobium one too many times. I'd love to concuss them until oblivion one day

dusky crest
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It's Varagyr for me

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Why can they take a thunder hammer and a frost claw?

muted ridge
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ill drop a pred for it

obsidian magnet
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Plasma blaster is over costed. I'd stick with a gravis melta and pfist. Get a melta gun if you have the points

dusky crest
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Gravis melta is the best weapon for a hybrid contemptor

muted ridge
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got it

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thx!

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i guess its not really that great for elites in that case though, just 3 melta shots

obsidian magnet
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Shoot, melt 2 terminators, charge, kill the rest.