#List help for Facing a Dangerous Solar Aux/ Sons of Horus player

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undone wing
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++ 1. Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - X: Iron Hands) [3,000Pts] ++

  • Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

  • Allegiance: +

Allegiance: Loyalist

X: Iron Hands

  • Rite of War: +

Rite of War: Brethren Of Iron

  • HQ: +

Centurion [145Pts]: Cyber-Familiar
. Forge Lord: Artificer Armour, Charnabal Glaive, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Nemesis Bolter, Plasma Pistol, Refractor Field
. Forge Lord
. . Machinator Array: Flamer, Meltagun

  • Elites: +

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [200Pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Conversion Beam Cannon, Gravis Melta Cannon

Medusan Immortal Squad [235Pts]: Boarding Shield, Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
. Immortal Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Cyber-Familiar
. 9x Immortal w/Bolter: 9x Bolter

Terminator Tartaros Squad [215Pts]: Augury Scanner, Tartaros Terminator Armour
. Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. Tartaros: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Maul
. Tartaros: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Maul
. Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-Bolter, Cyber-Familiar, Thunder Hammer

  • Troops: +

Tactical Squad [160Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Lightning Claw
. 9x Legionary: 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter
. Rhino Transport: 1x Hull (Front) Mounted hunter-killer missile

Tactical Squad [160Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Lightning Claw
. 9x Legionary: 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter
. Rhino Transport: 1x Hull (Front) Mounted hunter-killer missile

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  • Heavy Support: +

Kratos Squadron [420Pts]
. Kratos: 2x Lascannons, Co-axial Mounted Autocannon, Flare Shield, Hull (Front, Right/Left) Mounted Lascannons, Pintle Mounted Heavy Bolter, Smoke Launchers
. . Kratos Battlecannon: Kratos Battlecannon - AP Shells, Kratos Battlecannon - Flashburn Shells, Kratos Battlecannon - HE Shells

Land Raider Spartan [455Pts]
. Land Raider Spartan: 2x Lascannon Destroyer, Flare Shield, Hull (Front) Mounted Hunter-Killer Missile, Hull (Front) Mounted Twin-linked Lascannon, Legiones Astartes (X), Multi-Melta, Searchlights, Smoke Launchers

Thanatar Siege-automata Maniple [255Pts]
. Thanatar Calix
. . Thanatar Calix: Atomantic Deflector, Graviton Ram, Sollex Heavy-Las, Twin-linked Mauler Bolt Cannon

  • Primarch: +

Ferrus Manus [755Pts]
. Morlock Terminator Squad
. . 1) Augmentor: Combi-Bolter, Cyber-Familiar, Power Fist
. . 2) Morlock: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. . 2) Morlock: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. . 2) Morlock: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. . 2) Morlock: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist

  • Lords of War Have Moved to "Lords of War Detachment" +

Lords of War Have Moved to "Lords of War Detachment"

++ Total: [3,000Pts] ++

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willow hound
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i would cut the chainswords and cyber familiar on your tacticals

undone wing
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And do what with the extra points?

undone wing
willow hound
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i would get some more line

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it looks like you only have 2 units with line

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that centurion is weird?

can he even shoot all those weapons?

undone wing
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Otherwise I can’t field it

willow hound
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he already has a melta and flamer

undone wing
willow hound
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is he joining the thanatar?

undone wing
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It’s the same as what Ferrus Manus has on his Back pack

willow hound
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can they do that?

undone wing
willow hound
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who does he run with then?

undone wing
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I need a Forge Lord to be able to field Mechanicus units

willow hound
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i get that you need him for that

undone wing
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He would be attached to a Tactical squad

willow hound
undone wing
willow hound
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that does not really seem like the best place for a nemesis bolter

but it depends on the mission

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because of you have to take objectives on the midfield he likely has to go there with the tacticals since you only have 2 line units

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and then you are probably gonna use the melta instead of the snper

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but i would cut the plasma pistol

because it has the same range as the melta but is worse

undone wing
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If he plays Sons of Horus I have to be worried about either Drop Pod assault or Termie spam

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I never faced his Aux army

willow hound
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the job of the aux in that combo is probably just to go and take objectives while elite termies kill stuff

undone wing
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He plays Solar Aux

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And he plays Sons of Horus

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But not combined

willow hound
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so you are facing one or the other?

undone wing
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Yes

willow hound
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not an allied detachment

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alright

undone wing
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I’m trying to build something that can stand against either one

willow hound
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have you agreed to bring primarchs?

i cant speak for your local group but in general it is good sportsmanship to agree about primarchs beforehand

but that might be different in your group

undone wing
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I forgot he also plays Dark Angels

undone wing
willow hound
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interesting person you got there

undone wing
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Last time I faced him he brought a Warhound Titan and never told me he was bring a Titan till I watched him walk in

willow hound
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i would say that is bad sportsmanship but again i dont know your local group

undone wing
willow hound
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how much do you like that kratos tank?

undone wing
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Like 3 or 4 players

undone wing
willow hound
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does that dreadnought have a conversion beamer and melee weapon?

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because if so i would change that

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either go full conversion beamer or take another shooting weapon

undone wing
undone wing
nocturne yarrow
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So there's a few things in here

  • the forgelord has master of automata so can join the thanatar which I encourage you to do. He needs to join the thanatar or get a cortex controller to stop the thanatar being subject to programmed behaviour. In addition, he can heal it with battlesmith and tank low s high AP shots with his better invuln. I'd drop all the upgrades off him apart from a cyber familiar
  • contemptor wants double c beams, don't mix weapons with c beams
  • medusan immortals outside of CoBI are mediocre. No scoring, slow, very poor damage output. Maybe make them breachers for more scoring
  • dunno about those tartaros. Defs get rid of the augury scanner. Just dunno what they're giving you right now
  • get rid of the hunter killers on the rhinos and give your tacs vexillas
  • the multimelta on the spartan seems redundant. I'd axe it for more points
  • put a banner on one of the morlocks

I assume you're playing core rulebook missions?

undone wing
undone wing
nocturne yarrow
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Yes it has programmed behaviour, that's built into the cybernetica subtype which all robots have unless you upgrade them to paragon of metal

unborn pivot
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Which you can’t in BoI restrictions.

nocturne yarrow
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Exactly. So need a cortex controller or master of automata

unborn pivot
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But tbf, I ran a Cavas in my IV Legion and kept him firing twice a turn for all 5 turns. Forge lord and Warsmith in a couple tac squads bubbled round him offset the worst of the damage

nocturne yarrow
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Yeah cavas are great

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Probs prefer them over calix atm

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They do different things so can't really compare em

unborn pivot
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Yeah I didn’t really see the need for 3 S10/11 shots when I can absolutely batter infantry instead

undone wing
unborn pivot
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Indeed.. is there any way to exploit manoeuvre/deep strike against them? I play IW so everyone expects HoO but Thallax can be absolute ballers for line/output and generally redirecting priorities