#Another 4K Terror Assault List, this time with even more big tanks

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random nymph
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Basic goal is simple: deliver big meaty men across the board while pinning as much of the enemy force as possible. Command squad bullies enemy line, terror squad does what their name implies, night raptors ID marines with their moritat buddy, cataphractii and libby clean up any messes in the late game. Kratos are there to pop enemy vehicles and pin big areas of the board. Recons pop sgts and the contemptor dunks on people as much as possible.

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oh, also important is that the intention is a list you can almost entirely build with the original 2.0 starter box. just needs 10 extra bodies for the command squad and bits for weapons/jump packs/etc. and then two kratos lmao.

limpid ridge
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okay so the first thing I notice is a lot of missing line units

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and also a 15 man night raptor squad is quite overkill imo

random nymph
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no better kill than overkill

random nymph
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i can swap the librarian for a herald to make the cataphractii line, since my usual use for a libby is pinning for raptors and i've got quite a bit of pinning elsewhere in this list.

limpid ridge
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maybe keep the librarian

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just swap the terrors to a tacical

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plus a smaller terror squad

random nymph
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5 man terror with 3 rotor/2 volkite gives me room for 10 tacticals with 7 points to spare.

limpid ridge
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that should be 170 points

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if you're open to the idea maybe remove the two hunter killer missiles on the kratos

random nymph
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ha puts it at exactly 3999 again

limpid ridge
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nice nice

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hmmm let's see

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okay why the shotgun on the moritat?

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reduce weapon skill?

random nymph
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ye

limpid ridge
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hmmm

random nymph
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same reason the praetor has one

limpid ridge
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do you want to try rock instead of a shotgun, a combi grenade launcher for some potential to pin?

random nymph
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i don't like putting a single one on a squad because the chance of actually pinning with them is so low

limpid ridge
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Also I will say for a moritat a primary isn't really worth it, you want to abuse the chainfire

random nymph
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can't charge off chainfire 😔

limpid ridge
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hmmm lets see

random nymph
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yeah you gotta get an unsaved wound to pin and frag aint good at that.

limpid ridge
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true

random nymph
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actually i'm still not used to heresy, can pistols shoot into melee like in 40k

limpid ridge
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also

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I don't think your moritat needs preysight

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since the raptors have it innate, don't characters who join the unit also get access to it?

limpid ridge
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so you can shoot pistols

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then charge

random nymph
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i mean while already in a fight

limpid ridge
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oh

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no

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they become another melee weapon

random nymph
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then i might as well downgrade the volkites

limpid ridge
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I would say keep the volkites actually

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instead I would say take the melta guns off the night raptors

random nymph
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i aint gonna be chainfiring with him is the thing

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he needs to be charging

limpid ridge
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since if you shoot your melta guns you can't charge

limpid ridge
random nymph
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meltas are assault

limpid ridge
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now that's something new

random nymph
limpid ridge
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you are correct

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but

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im just thinking of ways to massage this list

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I would also say

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remove the havoc launcher for the contemptor

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not really needed for what it looks like you have him equipped to do

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So something I would recommend as well is

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for the command squad

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have a few guys with power swords

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why you mauy ask?

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so you can ellect to put wounds on them

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I assume that's what your combi nade' launcher guys are for?

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just to note that the lances won't really help against Armour save 2

random nymph
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the claws/fists are for 2+, the lances are for wounds

limpid ridge
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Personally I run 2 fists, 3 dual lc and 4 swords and gotten a good result, helps keep the squad slightly cheaper

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how about swapping out the combi volkites jsut for regular volkite chargers?

random nymph
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3 points for extra bolter shots on a unit with relentless seemed worthwhile

limpid ridge
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I wouldn’t recommend it, brings the unit to an already expensive tag

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You’ll save 15 points swapping all 5 to chargers

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Remember if the enemy decides to las cannon or shoot your command squad to death after it deepstrikez that’s a lot of points wasted

random nymph
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i don't deepstrike jump squads

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it's risky but i rely on the night fighting and terrain

limpid ridge
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Hmmmm

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Then definitely remove the combi’s

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Right now if I saw that unit, I’d conversion Beamer it to death

random nymph
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jeez i'll have almost 100 points free at this point if i switch the librarian to a herald

limpid ridge
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You could you could

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It’s another reduction in pinning but it’s a fine swap

random nymph
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a unit of line cataphractii in a spartan never hurts

limpid ridge
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I think PoTL would suit this list a bit more

random nymph
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i do not know what that stands for lmao

limpid ridge
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It’s a rite of war

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Where you can elect to give up to 2 terminator units line

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Or veteran squads

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And they get moved to troops

random nymph
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eh, i like terror. it fits my preference for starting stuff on the board and sneaking up nice and slow.

limpid ridge
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Eh fair enouogh

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right now I'm still trying to think of ways to give it more line so you can capture a couple more objectives

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Iso for my 4k list I only run 4 line units

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considered low, but enough to capture objectives and outscore the opponent