#Ultramarines 3k - Liber panoptica

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dry oak
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Hey guys, <@&1006645963005362246> <@&877303538051600415> i am wondering if this would be a little too spicy
it is a narrative event, with all of the liber pano and centure rules.

Just gave it an update, since ofc, but mostly just some corrections for it to match the FoC
The list goes
Loyalist

Rite of War
Locus Lectra

HQ
MoS - power axe
Remus
Vindicator assain (the exodus model) - going to stick with this over the siegebreaker for the fun of it

Elites
5 Fulementarus
5 suzerians, two with hammers in a landraider
2x tech marines with cognis signums

Troopes
Tactical -, Sgt with artificer and claw, chain bayonets on the rest Rhino with multi melta
Tactical -, Sgt with artificer and claw, Rhino with multi melta
Tactical - chain bayonets
Tactical support squad - 6man total with plasmaguns in a rhino

Fast attack
Locutarus - hammer on the sgt.

Heavy support
Macharius - Vanquisher cannon
HSS - Autocannons
HSS - Missle launchers, one with augry scanner

The plan is that the MoS goes with the TSS, and the siegebreaker goes with one of the two heavy supports squads, where the tech dudes also are.
Remus with the fulementarus or locutarus, not sure which yet and then just tacticals for the rest

Thank you for reading so far, and hopfully you like it

coral scroll
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Looks interesting

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Does the assassin give an extra HQ slot?

crystal pasture
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Time for our bi-monthly argument of "does LL give you an extra HQ?"

coral scroll
plush thunder
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Oh wait

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Panoptica said that it doesn't give you an extra HQ slot

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And you're using panoptica

crystal pasture
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Panoptica and being wrong on FAQ rulings
Name a more iconic duo

plush thunder
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wdym being wrong on FAQ rulings?

crystal pasture
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Playing devil's advocate by saying LL should and does give you an extra HQ slot

plush thunder
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Ahh I see

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Well it's not like ultramarines need it with how good they are

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Either way the list looks interesting. I don't think it'll be too scary to deal with. A few un-optimal choices, some nerfed units here and there, and the macharius which I know nothing about lol but it doesn't seem awful

dry oak
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Oh fak, didnt realise the 4th hq was on, thoiught it was in elite ;O

crystal pasture
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Truth be told I think assassins would be better as elites

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Let's you run a full execution force if you want, doesn't gum up HQ slots, and opens up the chance to run less "meta" assassins

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Plus they don't really feel like HQs

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As for the list, personally I think plasma are all or nothing, either run a full squad or none at all

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That and even in "lower" power lists I find missile launchers to be incredibly underwhelming, id much rather run either another brick of autocannons or a multimelta squad in a rhino

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Depending on what you think your list needs more of

dry oak
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I am pretty sure they can handle javelins super well tho?

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and maybe even amigers?

dry oak
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But what do you think, siege breaker or the assain?

crystal pasture
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You'll get more general use out of the assassin

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And yeah, missiles can be good into javelins, but (my own personal anecdote) despite them being really good I don't see them a ton

waxen hinge
chilly dragon
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I think Javelins cost about a dollar a point, which can be a tough sell.

plush thunder
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Javelins are worth 38 points?😳