#3k Militia vs Militia Combined arms

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granite torrent
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I'm going against a fellow militia player and we've both agreed to run 3000pts combined arms lists. What should I change or add?
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📎 Combined_arms_3k.txt
quartz matrix
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Cyber augmetics seems bad here

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Just take Medicae units

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As it shuts off taking reactions due to Slow and Purposeful

granite torrent
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Ah but I take it for slow and purposeful. I can move and shoot the lasrifles as if stationary!

quartz matrix
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I guess?

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I think you’d be better forking out for needlers if you’re taking armoury

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The lack of reactions is crippling

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Trust me

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If you wanna run this style of list I’d play Warrior Elite/Legacy of the Great Crusade and Armoury

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Cyber augmetics isn’t worth it if you’re not taking mechanicum allies IMO

granite torrent
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Don't needlers have a really short range?

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Plus lasrifles have 1 shot ID 18" (vs militia) and 2 shot 30" range shots.

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But I'll crunch some numbers and keep it in mind!

pale elbow
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Two immediate issues I’m seeing here are:

  1. All those levies are going to get in your way as much as they will your opponent’s. Manoeuvre is extremely important in heresy and all those levies taking up space will limit your tactical flexibility. Also I hope to god you’ve got movement trays otherwise the game will take days.

  2. You’re going to have a hard time deploying all of that. All those infantry alone will cover around half your deployment zone on Dawn of War, which could be a serious issue if you’re playing with the proper amount of terrain

Now a question: do you have a Baneblade? Because if you drop half the levies and the heavy flamer sentinels (those are unlikely to do anything useful for you) you’ll have enough points for one with all the upgrades and believe me it will improve this list

granite torrent
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I do have a baneblade. And as for the levies, I do have the movement trays, and I love running huge blocks of infantry.

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I will drop half the levies and the heavy flamer sentinels for a baneblade.

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I don't know if I like the direction I am taking this list now

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I went for Warrior elite and dropped all my levies for assault needler grenadiers.

80 infantry does not feel like enough.

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@pale elbow @quartz matrix

pale elbow
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I reckon the Cavalry and the Medicae can go, I don’t see much point in giving a 6+ FNP to militia infantry, and lancer cavalry are really not very good. Trust me they are way overcosted and even with carapace armour they will more than likely evaporate prior to doing anything useful

That will give you space for 100 levies for screening purposes.

granite torrent
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Good idea. What should I equip the levies with?

granite torrent
pale elbow
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Remember you can have up to three levy squads in a single troops slot

pale elbow
granite torrent
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(Plasma gun instead of grenade launcher in the retinue).

tight field
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it's really not a problem at all

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all your vehicles can still react and you'll use reactions on them 95% of the time regardless

quartz matrix
tight field
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Command squad is really really bad. FC should be with either a big blob of grens or hiding out of LoS in the back

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They're in the same "just dont bother bin" as medics

pale elbow
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I’ve always felt the FC is essentially a 100 point tax on provenances and his main job once on the battlefield is to not die

tight field
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or die if you take bbtp

granite torrent
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so uhh

granite torrent
tight field
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I personally really really hate levies but I understand thats the vibe you're going for. I would drop the command squad though and just stick your FC with a gren squad. Then maybe consolidate your sents into one squad and use the 2 free Fast attacks to get some cargo 8's

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Militia need the mobility

granite torrent
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(because I am a well adjusted individual)

tight field
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I own 6 I am not well adjusted

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spark shell
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How many levies are they taking?

tight field
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2x50

spark shell
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My 3500 list has plans for 6x50....
If at 2x50 you are saying it's too much...
Maybe I need to go back to 3x50

spark shell
pale elbow
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The thing to remember about 50 man levy squads is they cost the same as a 10 man Tactical squad and are much, much worse

spark shell
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I will say, there is a psychological effect bringing multiple levy squads.
Having your opponent see all those bodies and realize "crap, I have to go through all that?!" is useful.
Especially since most players expect to fight marines and dreadnoughts

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And not "a reenactment of the battle of Stalingrad"

polar igloo
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My opponents always overestimate them and allocate way more firepower to them than they deserve, too

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But deployment is a serious concern, especially if you get the wedge map

spark shell
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My first game was a wedge map.
My 2 russ tanks had to come in reserves

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Why iam dropping 3 levies and a thunderbolt for 3 cargo 8s and 2x20 infantry squads