White scars fast armor list

[west storm]

Running three lascannon javelins is very strong, I’d say drop that down to a squadron of 2

Also frees up points to put the command squad on jetbikes instead of combat bikes

[topaz peak]

Hijacking my top comment here but this isnt worth anyones time reading the rest, just devolves into Khar being dense

also 3 lascannon javelins is fine in my local meta, ive run it countless times in my EC and never heard any complaints

[brisk pollen]

Why bother with jetbikes on Com squad?
They are way too expensive for what they add in this unit

Better keep them cheap and retain the good mobility with basic bikes

[west storm]

I personally like running them the sake of a bit of extra firepower, if I have the points going

[west storm]

That’s fair, didn’t know your local meta

[brisk pollen]

Though this command squad need other choices of power weapons
Lances are good for theme but bad for an elite unit

Better get some axes, claws and fish (don't even ask me how a guy can drive a bike while having twin claws in both hands 😛)

[brisk pollen]

You can only take heavy bolter and the Com squad is mainly a melee unit, better focus on that and avoid triggering any shooting phase reaction

[topaz peak]

"power glaves"

BS just doesnt have that option

[brisk pollen]

You can't take them

[topaz peak]

also Twin LCs is an illegal command squad loadout by the book

[topaz peak]

my local group FAQ says otherwise

[brisk pollen]

The only squad that can take them is Qin Xa's one

[brisk pollen]

Well what's the point of the Qin Xa's Buff then if a basic comm squad can take them? 😛
But you do you 😉

[brisk pollen]

Why?

[topaz peak]

the point of it is we have a blanket rule that command squads may be kitted out with "legion weapons that normally require the character subtype (but without the independent character subtype)" in order to better encourage fluffy armies

[topaz peak]

sorry, Illegal on bikes

being a scatterbrain tonight

[brisk pollen]

Where is it written? 🤔

[topaz peak]

I want you to read the line right beneath twin lightning claws

[brisk pollen]

I understand why you did it but it makes Qin Xa's Buff redundant

[topaz peak]

ok and?

[brisk pollen]

I'm blind ahah

[brisk pollen]

At this point you should also cancel the option to take both thunder hammers/snipers and jump pack if you faq all équipement that makes sense 😛

And à narthecium

[topaz peak]

1. cant take thunder hammers on a command squad, its only up to power fists
2. FAQing away snipers on jump packs might not be the worst idea, I'll pitch it to the boys

[brisk pollen]

I was talking about a centurion
Sorry it wasn't clear

Or sniper+bike

[topaz peak]

ive yet to see anyone take snipers on bikes and I doubt anyone will

[brisk pollen]

But in any case I would try to find some points for power first on this squad

[brisk pollen]

I do 🙃
The NL rite that let you take more consuls on bikes

[topaz peak]

as much as the inspired "evelution of the horse archers" would offer cool modeling opurtunities

[brisk pollen]

Like 4 centurions of various types with a comm squad and all the centurions have sniper and all in bikes

[topaz peak]

id like to take a moment to ask you how in the hell that makes sense

and that isnt just "oh I want x rules on x unit"

[brisk pollen]

What do you mean?
Lore wise or rule wise?

[topaz peak]

lore wise

or well how does it make sense by physics

[brisk pollen]

Not all people care about that

Some just want something that looks cool

[brisk pollen]

Most of 40k doesn't make sense physics wise 😛

[topaz peak]

cool, now I want you to apply that same logic to putting power glaves on a bike command squad

[brisk pollen]

The main difference being that it's a legal option that doesn't require any local faq

[topaz peak]

a lot of it does actually, you just need to ignore GW's attempt at calling stuff what it isnt

[topaz peak]

congrats! but last I checked you dont live in my area, and I wont be playing against you.

kind of an "isnt there someone you forgot to ask" moment, especially considering ive already got this cleared with my local group in full

[brisk pollen]

If you play with people from different group or in event you need to all play with the same set of. Rules 🙃

[topaz peak]

sorry, I'm the one who organizes those events.

[brisk pollen]

And you don't participate in event organised by other people? 😛

[topaz peak]

not really no

sereously, were on an entire discord for my area and I'd need to be driving over 4 hours to reach an area where heresy is played that were not aware of

[brisk pollen]

Too bad, it's good to get some other pov on the game

But anyway we are going far off subject 🙃

[topaz peak]

too bad for you not everyone plays so exploitative of the written rules, and would try to have fun with the game! And youve written yourself off to me as a WAAC player anyway, so thanks for admiting to that!

[brisk pollen]

I have something called a life 😛
Sorry I don't spend 7/7 on discord

1. I have never said I play NL, and big surprise: I don't 🙃 so regarding a centurion on bike with a sniper I don't even play this, I wasn't talking about my army
2. You post a list on tactica and ask for advice, if you only want to get " wow amazing list, you so great" without any kind of objective citricism, imo this is the wrong topic
3. Your interpretation of the game is very personal if you think you can faq it with you own group, just write your own set of rules and don't call it horus heresy 👌
   That exactly why playing with some other people is important and help you being open minded 😉 if everyone faq the game, you have no common ground
4. You can play the game by interpreting strictly the rules without being waac, again you miss match both terms 🙃
5. Why playing hard list or bad list is a bad thing? The main point is that both players on the each of the board share the same idea of the game
   If they want to play the most competitive games or the most "I don't care about winning games" list, who are we to judge them?
   Playing a hard list doesn't mean you're a jerk or playing a bad list doesn't make you a good person 😉

[topaz peak]

wow I really struck a nerve LMAO

1. you literally told me "I do" when I say ive yet to see snipers on bikes, no assumption there just you lying, lol.
2. I didnt post a list here for praise, I posted a list here to ask people to help me identify flaws with it that I might run into in a few games, hoping to garner the expertise of others who had played the legion. Sadly this brought people like you into this, for which I apoligise for.
3. with a ruleset that can contradict itself in places having a written set of things for a large group to refer back to is usually pretty important, and we added only the smallest amount of changes to it, I'm sorry that wanting to edit stuff so the community has more fun ruffles your jimmies this much, you should be a lawer if you want to tell others to read text documents this badly.
4. you above said you take snipers on jetbikes, and you suggested power fists on the command sqad earlier, both incredibly high power options that I dont care for. I made an informed judgement there, and youve yet to prove me wrong.
5. playing a bad list doesnt make you better, but we tend to regulate worse lists in our local group, and from what ive heard a lot of others do too. Last I checked 30 fulmenitarus doesnt exactly go over well, and id say playing it knowing full well the problesm with it does actually make you a bad person.

if a pair of people want to play competitve games together thats fine, but if only one person wants to bring a competitve list and the other doesnt, or god forbid lies to the other about the tier of power thier list is at, thats usually pretty bad. But thanks for trying!

proof btw

for the record tho I would say I play against a diverse in playstyle group of people, just yknow I dont exactly have time to drive over 4 hours to try and find other groups, and I know all of them within 2 hours of us, and theyre all under the same umbrella

[brisk pollen]

Not really no offense but we probably don't even live on the same continent so I don't really care about a topic regarding someone I'll never see 🙃

I tried to help first but it seems you don't need anything 👌

[topaz peak]

you recommended I take power axes and an "illegal option"....

and then divolved into you trying to harass me for having a local group, and wanting to make a thematic army

I apprecate the intent, but you need to work on your execution mate

[brisk pollen]

1. I'm not eng speaker, I meant that I've already seen it on a table

2. It's the internet, you should not expect for a specific response
   Just don't expect anything aprt from talking with other pov

3. That's another subject about playing with fan made version of the game

4. Sniper on bike was just an example of stupid things that the game let you do
   You cannot do that on a command squad anyway
   And yes taking some power fist is imo important for this kind of unit to still get some punch

5. Then we totally agree, don't call people "WAAC" If I try to help you a bit
   Otherwise I could just tell you to run infinite myrmidons and play nothing else 🙃

[brisk pollen]

You really feel "harassed" by a random guy talking a bout how to equip warhammer plastic bits? 🤔
Gosh internet must be hard!

[topaz peak]

1. doesnt change the fact that you said it, then attempted to backpedal. And fwiw your english has been perfect otherwise, so you messing up "I do" and "I have" genuinely feels wrong

2. wow look what channel I'm asking this in

3. last I checked (and citation needed on this) I pretty clearly said that I was using a personal group FAQ to take the power glaives on the command squad at the very begining of the post. At no point in it did I say "vanilla 30k as RAW as you can please"

4. see point 1

5. see point 1. Sereously most of this is conjecture based on your language, and the more I read through your messages the more confused I get about you not "being an english speaker" (not mind you speaking a different language as your primary language, but "not being an english speaker") and feel like youre trying to gaslight me here

[topaz peak]

youre right thats not the correct term, I shouldve said you were hindering me trying to ask for help with my list

[brisk pollen]

1. For the third time I don't play NL 🙃
   Why would I lie about that?
   But feel free to believe whatever you want! I don't really mind 😛
2. Yes you will have response regarding tactics on your list that's all I can understand
3. And?
4. No offense but I don't want to justify how different my language is compared to english and how it affects how I read/write English 🙃
   Just calling out people "WAAC" like it's supposed to be an "insult" when you try to apply the rules feels a bit weird to me
   But you do you I don't mind, it's the internet

Anyway this discussion leads to no where,
We don't understand each other and you don't want my "help"
Lets end it here cordially and don't waste each others time 🙂

[topaz peak]

I have no problem calling the argument here, but a couple things
for the record I was never saying you play NL, just that you played sniper bikes.

[brave crest]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

Literally anytime I see this dude post here

[wanton hedge]

the hell? lol

[sturdy shoal]

What the heck is happening here lol?

[topaz peak]

I wanted to put power glaves on a command squad by my own group's homebrew rules, seems he took offense to that

just ignore it at this point I've realized my mistake of asking for help here

[wanton hedge]

whole convo feels like you two are practicing competitive self-lobotomy via soup spoon.

[topaz peak]

yeah cant argue with that one, it was 4am for me