#NL newbie

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empty otter
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Hello there, im new to heresy but willing to learn it. I have an ide if the list but im still thinking about it. Can I win someone with this list?

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LA - VIII: Night Lords - Nl curze - [3000Pts]

Crusade Force Organisation Chart [3000Pts]

Expanded Army Lists

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

Allegiance:

Allegiance: Traitor
VIII: Night Lords

Rite of War:

Rite of War: Terror Assault (NL)

HQ: [95Pts]

Centurion [95Pts]:
• 1x Vigilator: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Artificer Armour, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Refractor Field
Vigilator, Meltabombs, Master-crafted Nemesis Bolter, Infilitrate

Elites: [1125Pts]

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [675Pts]:
• 3x Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Lascannon, Havoc Launcher, Atomantic Deflector

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [450Pts]:
• 2x Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Lascannon, Havoc Launcher, Atomantic Deflector

Troops: [1055Pts]

Night Raptor Squad [585Pts]:
• 1x Huntmaster: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Artificer Armour
• 14x Night Raptor w/Chainblade: Bolt Pistol, Chainblade

Reconnaissance Squad [145Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
• 1x Legion Recon Sergeant: Nemesis Bolter, Bolt Pistol
Power Armour
• 1x Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter, Augury Scanner
• 3x Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
Shroud Bombs
Tactical Squad [100Pts]:
• 9x Legionaries (collective): Bolt Pistol, Bolter
Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
Power Armour
Tactical Squad [100Pts]:
• 9x Legionaries (collective): Bolt Pistol, Bolter
Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
Power Armour
Terror Squad [125Pts]: 2x Rotor Cannon
• 4x Executioner w/Chainsword: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
Frag Grenades
• 1x Headsman: Chainsword
Krak Grenades, Power Armour

Heavy Support: [275Pts]

Heavy Support Squad [275Pts]:
• 9x Legionaries (collective): Bolt Pistol
Lascannon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
• 1x Legion Support Sergeant: Power Armour, Bolt Pistol
Power Armour

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Primarch: [450Pts]

Konrad Curze [450Pts]: Glimpse of Death
• 1x Konrad Curze
Master of the Legion, 2x Mercy & Forgiveness, The Nightmare Mantle, The Widowmakers, Warlord, Sire of the Night Lords

signal crow
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That is... A lot of dreadnoughts

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So, you seem to have some minimum sized units which don't really work the best with our trait. We get bonuses when we outnumber the enemy unit

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Raptors
Honestly I've had better success with them in groups of 5. Their jetpacks make them count as 2 for the purposes of out numbering, plus you can use them to harass multiple targets
Dual lightning claws are ace on them

empty otter
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Curze gives dreadnoughts night vision

empty otter
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@signal crow

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and lascannons have no such big need of +1 to wound

signal crow
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Right, dreadnoughts are considered a bit broken in 2.0, so people tend to use 1 dread per 1k. Las Cannon HSS are also pretty busted, so running both you might get some upset opponents.

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As for the raptors... Curze is unique in that he doesnt really need a retinue, I believe he would actually be slowed down by the raptors which is amusing in itself. Curze strength is hit and run

pearl delta
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Nobody brings more than 3 Dreadnoughts, community-wide gentleman's agreement.

Also Primarchs at 3000 points aren't common either. They are better suited to larger game sizes, 3500 maybe, but more likely 4000 points unless both sides agree. Either way you don't want to include a Primarch in your core army build

signal crow
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Really? Ive seen Primarch commonly at 3k in my area.

pearl delta
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That's not common at all. Primarchs dominate the board at lower point totals but if everyone is running around with them then I guess its fine.

Are they also playing with a bunch of Dreads? If so, your area sounds awful for games haha

tight nova
empty otter
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But I dont know much shooty units that I can use

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I cant take many heavy support

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only 1

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and curze lets me spend far less money on night vision

empty otter
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Can then anyone tell me how Night Lordds are usually played?

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Aside from Sevatar+termo

signal crow
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That'd be Terror Assault then:

Every list is different but I'll tell you some common themes I've noticed:
Essentially utilizing Night Fighting, taking advantage of the enemies limited vision, using recons to pop any augury scanners.
Taking advantage of 'A Talent For Murder', I.E. focus on Outnumbering and forcing pinning.
Recon squads to pop sergeants and augs
Terror squads to force pinning, usually in groups of 10 with a mix of volkite and rotors
Librarians are used to shutdown enemy reactions
Rapiers, surprisingly decent. A single rapier as 6 guys (two handlers and the gun is bulky 4) so a single pack of two already outnumber vehicles.
Raptors with dual lightning claws are a god send, do recommend.
Here's a big one: Apothecaries.
A great source to push Outnumbering, alongside adding survivability to your units.
If you aren't running Curze and need to save on points, give an Apothecary unit Preysight. Whatever unit the models join also gain Preysight as long as the apothecary is alive.

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There's a few others but I just woke up and I'm sure other NL will pick up where I left off

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Oh, also since Terror Assault limits our heavy support selection, sabres are some pretty good vehicles

signal crow
severe kestrel
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What kind of missions are u doing

If black book u have enough line but if ur doing cathonia or any mission packs with a higher need for turn by turn scoring consider taking more line

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Also if u don’t like the Sabre or want plastic thiers jet bikes with volkite or multi meltas

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And follow the rule of one dread pre 1000 also don’t forget presight is a very handy upgrade