#1st 3k NL list. Any criticism is welcome will try terror assault 1 more time.

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stark harness
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++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - VIII: Night Lords) [3,009Pts] ++

  • Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

  • Allegiance: +

Allegiance: Traitor

VIII: Night Lords

  • Rite of War: +

Rite of War: Terror Assault (NL)

  • HQ: +

Centurion [105Pts]: Librarian, Psychic Discipline: Divination
. Librarian: Artificer Armour
. . Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainsword

  • Elites: +

Apothecarion Detachment [90Pts]
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. . Chainsword: Chainsword

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [380Pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Kheres Assault Cannon
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Kheres Assault Cannon

Terminator Cataphractii Squad [675Pts]
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Maul
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Maul
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Maul
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Maul
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Cataphractii Sergeant: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Maul
. Land Raider Spartan
. . Land Raider Spartan: 2x Lascannon Array, Hull (Front) Mounted Twin-linked Heavy Bolter

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  • Troops: +

Reconnaissance Squad [245Pts]
. Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter

Tactical Squad [150Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour
. 13x Legionaries (collective): 13x Bolt Pistol, 13x Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Tactical Squad [150Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour
. 13x Legionaries (collective): 13x Bolt Pistol, 13x Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Terror Squad [258Pts]: 5x Rotor Cannon, 5x Volkite Charger
. 10x Executioner w/Chainsword: 10x Bolt Pistol, 10x Chainsword
. Headsman: Chainsword

  • Heavy Support: +

Heavy Support Squad [285Pts]: Lascannon
. Legion Support Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. 9x Legionaries (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol

  • Primarch: +

Konrad Curze [671Pts]
. Command Squad: Warhawk Jump Pack
. . Legion Chosen: Bolter, Pair of Lightning Claws
. . Legion Chosen: Bolter, Pair of Lightning Claws
. . Legion Chosen: Bolter, Pair of Lightning Claws
. . Legion Chosen: Bolter, Pair of Lightning Claws
. . Legion Standard Bearer: Pair of Lightning Claws

++ Total: [3,009Pts] ++

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shadow wave
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Hello!
This isnt a bad list, but I will make some suggestions:
Kurze doesn't really need a retinue, they end up actually slowing him down. He's great for hit and run.
Cataphractii are great, I would suggest swapping the mauls for axes however, you already have a decent chance with wounding as you'll outnumber the enemy.
Split the recons, gives you more of a presence to snipe enemy leader's heads.

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You also may want to swap one or both assault cannons for a melta cannon, helps save points and it's pretty damn good

stark harness
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Sweet the only reason i bunched up the recons is for the outnumbering +1WS. What units should i aim to outnumber with?

shadow wave
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Well, Recons will help you outnumber in that they'll pop the sergeants :P
I'd say that your catas will outnumber damn near everything, but you 15 tacts wont hurt. where are the apothecaries going?

stark harness
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TACS

shadow wave
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I would suggest one goes with your terror squad. theyre good but squishy

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the other could go with your HSS to outnumber single vehicles

stark harness
shadow wave
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Lemme...
@proper kelp, what do you think about this besides what I suggested?

stark harness
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Yeah I don't i have seen a Curze with a command squad

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think*

upbeat elk
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You also probably want rhinos for the tacs

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I also think the command squad on Curze isn't a good idea. It will slow him down because he can't leave it.

proper kelp
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Hey just saw i was pinged.

So first thing- remember to give ur libby the free force weapon. Staff or axe are my favs.

Split the recons into 2 squads if u can.

On ur cata blog swap the swords for axes, u alreadu have better ap 3 in ths mauls and u need something for thay unit to effectively punch into 2+ saves.

This is me, but NEVER EVER put Konrad in a command squad. He can never leave it and thus becomes chained to it and he is one of the like bottom 3 primarchs in death stars, potentially the worst. Trie the jump pack one only slows him down by about 4 inches of movement so this may be good practice for his solo movement (tho the bigger squad size will make it harder to hide him)

u need to tweak points so if u have to drop 1 or 2 tacs cit there

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Oh also try to afford an augery scanner on the las cannons if u can, gives u an extra and free intercept reaction. (They intercept for free so 1 other unit can declare one on top of that)

proper kelp
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Oh also woth the command squad w/ konrad, str 4 now wounds that unit on 4s, str 5 wounds it on 3s and str 6 on 2s insteas of 6,5,4. So its more worth shooti g them. Blast and template weapons can also score more hits so it doesnt deny ur enemy value on their weapons loke a solo konrad does

ruby plank
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inspite of having 10 lascannon troops it feels blisteringly short on anti tank, Im not sure what is going on with that terminator squad with that weapon setup it should really be Tartarus and spears would be better than mauls i think

The jump packs on the command squad are useless i think unless pano lets you use them you can never activate them by (pg. 163 core rule book) Having a command squad isnt the worst thing as a few spare puds to soak up wounds is always good, but they need a transport.

I dont like putting spartans and primarchs together as its far too eggy a basket

stark harness
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GUYS TY very much. Im altering the list a bit now and will just repost here. I have my leviathan weapons on teh way and will probably mostly use him in heavy slot.

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Im purposely doing the cheap 10x las and librarian and now apothecary for the sake of trying it and it sounds powerful with TA

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my next game i'll use a different ROW but picking your brains is the main goal of throwing the lists up here to avoid redundancies

proper kelp
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np cant wait to see the lists

stark harness
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++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - VIII: Night Lords) [2,915Pts] ++

  • Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

  • Allegiance: +

Allegiance: Traitor

VIII: Night Lords

  • Rite of War: +

Rite of War: Terror Assault (NL)

  • HQ: +

Centurion [105Pts]: Librarian, Psychic Discipline: Divination
. Librarian: Artificer Armour
. . Bolt Pistol
. . Force Weapon: Force Axe

  • Elites: +

Apothecarion Detachment [90Pts]
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. . Chainsword: Chainsword

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [380Pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Melta Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Havoc Launcher
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Melta Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Havoc Launcher

Terminator Cataphractii Squad [745Pts]
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Axe
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Axe
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Axe
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Axe
. Cataphractii Sergeant: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Axe
. 5x Cataphractii w/Lightning Claws: 5x Pair of Lightning Claws
. Land Raider Spartan
. . Land Raider Spartan: 2x Lascannon Array, Hull (Front) Mounted Hunter-Killer Missile, Hull (Front) Mounted Twin-linked Heavy Bolter, Preysight

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  • Troops: +

Night Raptor Squad [435Pts]
. Huntmaster: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
. 14x Night Raptor w/Chainsword: 14x Bolt Pistol, 14x Chainsword

Reconnaissance Squad [135Pts]
. Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter

Reconnaissance Squad [135Pts]
. Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter

Tactical Squad [145Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour
. 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Legion Vexilla
. Rhino Transport

  • Heavy Support: +

Heavy Support Squad [295Pts]: Lascannon
. Legion Support Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol
. Legionary w/ Options: Augury Scanner, Bolt Pistol

  • Primarch: +

Konrad Curze [450Pts]

++ Total: [2,915Pts] ++

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If the sell for terror squads is forcing pin tests it seems recon squads can cover that box at lower cost.

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Maxed out the raptors for the +1 to WS and prioritizign them for distance during night fighting.

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10 CATS in a spartan is heavy investment but me and the guy im playing have agreed we will be using primarchs and i can cover ground and hopefully tie his retinue up.

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10las only because 90% chance he will drop his extremely well painted leviathan and dreads crash parties regardless how good the dice rolls are.

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Any criticisms but simce this my first game i am also trying to add as much variety as possible to experience the different rules.

ruby plank
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id drop one terminator and use those points to pick up another character

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or take an armestos for the lols 11 lascannons

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and size 11 so you get +1 to wound a tank 😛

stark harness
ruby plank
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cool nvm about that then

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still 85 points

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hmmm

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ruby plank
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its a consol upgrade

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doesnt do too much but they can take heavy weapons

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for the price of 1 termy you could add a termy libby maybe?

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lemme check if thats accurate one sec

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would have to be a tarterous one but

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you could take telepathy

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and that would let you pin the enemy unit before the charge

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making the termies all get an extra attack

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your have to drop one termy with claws but

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not too bad a trade i think as you can get 5 ws 5 force weapon attacks

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also you can cancel reactions which might make your lascannons live longer idk

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or take a termy chaplain for hatred on the charge

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and stuborn

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ruby plank
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its a very helpful power if your opponent likes to return fire

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or charge in the move phase -_-

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libbies are just flat good

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also if he has any bricks of stuborn marines the other power in that tree is exceptional at pinning them

stark harness
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Its big gangster. If its Terror assault, attaching an apoth to las guys could be a waste for atleast 2 rounds