#Dark Angels and Ultramarines - 3k - Anti Tank

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rocky zodiac
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This is for an upcoming event. I'm using dark angels primarily for melee and Ultramarines for shooting. I can't figure out what I want for anti tank though

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nimble reef
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Run some ironwing leviathans

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Siege drills and meltas

lime void
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Javelins w/ lascannons and multimeltas are also very funny

nimble reef
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What about some neutron bean saber tanks?

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Quick and shooty

rocky zodiac
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I don't have any/can't find an stl :/

lime void
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eh, i prefer javs over sabres

nimble reef
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I know STL'S

lime void
nimble reef
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Give a moment

torn hamlet
rocky zodiac
lavish crystal
torn hamlet
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I can provide literally everything

rocky zodiac
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How else would I play this game 😂

torn hamlet
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Fair

rocky zodiac
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Y'all are awesome

nimble reef
torn hamlet
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Ah, the easy shiv

nimble reef
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I know a guy who printed it

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Is good

torn hamlet
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That one's good

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Indeed

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Do you want bikes and javelins?

lime void
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and can deepstrike

rocky zodiac
torn hamlet
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Give me a min

nimble reef
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Some melee leviathans would fit your melee DA

rocky zodiac
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Javs look good but I'm also having a bit difficult time fitting those in

nimble reef
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Give them ironwing and twin drills

torn hamlet
lime void
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well, claw and drill is probably better

torn hamlet
lime void
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no benefit for two of the same weapon

torn hamlet
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I run 2 squads of 2 with lascannons at 3k

rocky zodiac
nimble reef
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The drills are strength 12, can crack the front armour of a warlord titan

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Which is T 15

rocky zodiac
nimble reef
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And the drills have brutal as well

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I think brutal 2?

lime void
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well yes but you may as well run one claw as well to have a choice

nimble reef
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Put the volkites in hull to deal with chaff trying to slow them down

torn hamlet
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I believe we should give a more structured criticism and discuss this afterwards

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Um

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That link doesn't work

nimble reef
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I am always a leviathan advocate

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The imperiums most lovable wrecking balls

rocky zodiac
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It doesn't?

torn hamlet
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Ok this is how you post lists: in your roster, you copy the roster to your clipboard in chat text. Go to your browser and into pastebin.com, create a new paste with your list and send us the link to the page

nimble reef
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Leviathan stat page

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The drill does not have brutal

rocky zodiac
nimble reef
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But the drill does have armourbane

torn hamlet
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Tremendous

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Ok

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Right off the bat

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Your commamd squad has artificer amour and better weapon skill by default. Your chouce of power swords doesn't take advantage of that. I would give them power axes because of their armour piercing 2. Power fists in some can also be good, but watch your points

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The volkite serpenta on the praetor is useless

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You want to give him a bolt pistol if you want something cheap, or a plasma pistol/ archeotech pistol if you don't mind pimping him out

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Still

rocky zodiac
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That's what he's modelled with 😔

torn hamlet
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Your praetor and his goons are a spiked club, they don't shoot often

torn hamlet
rocky zodiac
torn hamlet
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But you have a printer, we will solve this, don't you worry

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I have been collecting STL's for months

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Anyway

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Tactical squads

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Your sergeant is going to want a power weapon that isn't a sword

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Preferably an axe

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A fist if you don't mind it

rocky zodiac
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I built him with a sword 😭

torn hamlet
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I mean, they're usable, certainly

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It's just that the poor things are kind of meh in comparison to even power mauls

rocky zodiac
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I don't intend for my tacs to be in melee tbh

torn hamlet
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You can always magnetise your model's arms,

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Oh man

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Your tacticals will wound up in melee

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Your tacticals are going to get charged by cataphractii terminators and suicidal veterans

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I advise that you give them a legion vexilla, and some chain bayonets

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They are like cheaper chainswords

rocky zodiac
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ATM they're modelled with bayonets and I can paint a vexilla rq

torn hamlet
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Sublime

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Also, every tactical unit size has a place. 20 man blobs do well, but they are at their most manageable at 15. You can give them rhinos to make them speedy, if you have something scary to draw attention from them

rocky zodiac
torn hamlet
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Oh yes

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Those guys

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They are a steam roller

rocky zodiac
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I'm planning to teleport them with a Warmonger

torn hamlet
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The way you win against Suzerains is by virtue of the fact that they can't be everywhere at once

rocky zodiac
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Thus the presence of the First

torn hamlet
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A contemptor dreadnought or leviathan also does the trick

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I would like to make a honorable mention of the castra ferrum dreadnought

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He isn't as durable or punchy, but he makes a lovely weapon platform with lascannons and searchlights

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2 of them do the work of 10 men with lascannons

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Back to reading the roster, one moment

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I see

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This is what gamers call an infantry skew list

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You really need fast attack

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If you don't have the points, shave your tacs to 15, have your other units clock at a round number and invest in javelins

rocky zodiac
torn hamlet
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Sure

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If you want

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I don't want to be dictatorial and tell you the units that you like don't have a place

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They can stay

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I should point out, however, that I know next to nothing about inductii

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You should ask at the ultrmarines chat for that one

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Also, final note

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If you are just going to run a squad of despoilers, only with chainswords, and have the rest of your line units be tacticals, you need to give them all chain bayonets and a vexilla

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Maybe not a cheaper one that you want to use for backfield objective camping

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But you need to be prepared

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If I was attacking you, I would throw my 20 man assault squad, with 5 power axes and a power spear on the sergeant, without hesitation

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Your dreadnought is melee material too, yes, but he's slow

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6 inch movement iirc

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My palatine blade squad can go up to 12 inches with their jump packs

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Do you see what I'm saying

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You need melee units, some that can do it if need be, and others that are dedicated to it

rocky zodiac
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One question: should I give my dark angel Inductii chainswords?

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Or rather should I just give out chainswords to most guys?

torn hamlet
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How expensive are power weapons foe them?

rocky zodiac
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I think the sarge can take one

torn hamlet
rocky zodiac
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Inductii have volkite chargers

torn hamlet
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It does literally the same thing but two handed

torn hamlet
rocky zodiac
torn hamlet
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I apologise, I'm not acquainted with them

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Ask the other blueberries

rocky zodiac
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Lmao you're good

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So I should round my squads, throw in a javelin or sabre, and give troops chain bayonets?

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Plus give my command squad power axes

torn hamlet
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Ye

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Also

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Not just one javelin

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Take them in squads of two at least, not just because of volume of fire

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They are going to take flak

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You want to have something to fall back to: numbers

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2 squads of 2 is my go to

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(Javelins, only lascannons)

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Keeps them cheap

rocky zodiac
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Or I could swap them out for 2 sabres with neutron cannons

torn hamlet
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Both can work

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A sabre with a neutron blaster is like giving a dwarf a 44. Magnum

rocky zodiac
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Or I can take my leviathan out and have both

torn hamlet
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2 javelins over the sabres

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I'd be in support of scrapping the leviathan, not because he's bad, I just dislike the dreadnoughts in this edition. They are bulldozers of claw and energy cannon that can't be brought down

rocky zodiac
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I can take it out and have 2 javelins + 2 sabres

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And an additional extra 200 points

willow marsh