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vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 10:13 AM

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HQ: +

Centurion [125Pts]

. Champion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Thunder Hammer
. Champion

Praetor [393Pts]: The Broken Mirror (Traitor only), Warlord

. Command Squad

. . Legion Chosen: Bolter

. . . Bolt Pistol
. . . Charnabal Weapon: Charnabal Glaive
. . Legion Chosen: Bolter

. . . Bolt Pistol
. . . Charnabal Weapon: Charnabal Glaive
. . Legion Standard Bearer

. . . Bolt Pistol
. . . Charnabal Weapon: Charnabal Sabre
. Legion Praetor: Artificer Armour, Sonic Shriekers

. . Bolt Pistol
. . Power Weapon: Phoenix Power Spear

Elites: +

Apothecarion Detachment [90Pts]

. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour

. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour

. . Chainsword: Chainsword

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [200Pts]

. Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Plasma Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Graviton Gun

Palatine Blade Squad [390Pts]: 9x Palatine Warrior, 9x Phoenix Power Spear

. Palatine Prefector: Bolt Pistol, Phoenix Power Spear
. Rhino Transport

Phoenix Terminator Squad [200Pts]: 4x Phoenix Terminators

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Troops: +

Assault Squad [250Pts]

. Legion Assault Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Sonic Shriekers

. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. 11x Legionaries (collective): 11x Bolt Pistol, 11x Chainsword
. Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Charnabal Glaive
. Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Charnabal Glaive
. Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Charnabal Glaive

Despoiler Squad [215Pts]

. Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Charnabal Glaive, Sonic Shriekers
. 11x Despoilers (collective): 11x Bolt Pistol, 11x Chainsword
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Charnabal Glaive, Legion Vexilla
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Charnabal Glaive
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Charnabal Glaive
Reconnaissance Squad [125Pts]

. Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Astartes Shotgun, Bolt Pistol

Fast Attack: +

Javelin Squadron [105Pts]

. Javelin Land Speeder: 2x Lascannons, Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta

Sky-Hunter Squadron [285Pts]

. Legion Sky-Hunter Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Multi-Melta

. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta
. Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta
. Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta
. Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta
. Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta

Heavy Support: +

Heavy Support Squad [235Pts]: Volkite Culverin

. Legion Support Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. 9x Legionaries (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol

Sun Killer Squad [385Pts]: 9x Lascannon, 9x Sun Killer

. Novaetor: Chainsword, Lascannon

++ Total: [2,998Pts] ++

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Too mean? Or not mean enough?

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indigo stone Sep 30, 2023, 11:34 AM

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definitely not enough

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you have no melee punch

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Charnabal Blades are fine, but you need some actual AP2 weapons to actually do damage

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:52 AM

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What would you change then?

indigo stone Sep 30, 2023, 11:58 AM

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i wouldn't give the entire Palatine Squad Spears

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the base blades are fine, but i would add a few axes

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axes for the despoilers & assault marines as well

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also power fists

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the blades in a rhino is kind of a waste, they can't charge out of it

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:59 AM

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Problem is I'm looking for a balance of looking good and looking fluffy

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 12:00 PM

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indigo stone the blades in a rhino is kind of a waste, they can't charge out of it

That's true, might put the volkite in instead

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I'm not looking to powergame, I was just concerned that having both the sunkillers and volkite would be a bit mean

indigo stone Sep 30, 2023, 12:05 PM

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you could just drop the killers down to a squad of 5

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 12:11 PM

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Could do

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 1:10 PM

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@indigo stone

I've dropped the sunkillers and HSS to 5 men, put two axes on the palatines, 3 on the assault squad, given the palatines a land raider and added a xiphon

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And put the bikes down to 3

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Well, 3 and the sergeant so technically 4

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 1:29 PM

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Okay nvm I've taken out the xiphon, added a moritat and outfitted the land raider with more las

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And also a third apothecary

indigo stone Sep 30, 2023, 3:20 PM

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Nice

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 5:03 PM

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It sorta solves the ap2 problem and it gives it more options

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I'm still tempted to stick a rhino in the list somewhere

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I might not need that third apothecary

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The board control aspects of a rhino might be worth it over that

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:02 PM

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vital egret I might not need that third apothecary

Did you tweak that?

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Can we have a look at version 2.0?

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:03 PM

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Yeah I'll send the current version one moment

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I have actually changed one thing, I took the sonic shrieker off the despoiler sgt and put it on the palatines

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And taken artificer armour off of the HSS Sgt

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:44 PM

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A phoenix spear? Why not a paragon blade?

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Are you using the forgeworld praetor?

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The spear is a paragon blade

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Your palatines aquilae can take cool power weapons, but you will take flak

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Some will die on the way

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You should have at least 3 disposable ones with charnabals

silver perch Sep 30, 2023, 11:48 PM

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And charnables are honestly pretty good anyway

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:48 PM

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Indeed. They are also the 10 points, the same as power weapons. A matter of choice

silver perch Sep 30, 2023, 11:49 PM

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On palatine aquilae?

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:49 PM

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No, I was looking at your despoilers

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It's a habit of mine to automatically give them power axes

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But

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But

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Charnabals work well too

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Preference, is all

silver perch Sep 30, 2023, 11:50 PM

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edgy quartz No, I was looking at your despoilers

Oh sorry, I'm not op

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:50 PM

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vital egret I have actually changed one thing, I took the sonic shrieker off the despoiler s...

Also, the despoiler sergeant needs the shrieker

silver perch Sep 30, 2023, 11:50 PM

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Just nosy

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:50 PM

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I do not follow

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:51 PM

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edgy quartz The spear *is* a paragon blade

I'm gonna be honest I thought it was a phoenix power spear

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:51 PM

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I just hope I'm not sounding dictatorial. You should build what looks cool to you

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:51 PM

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vital egret I'm gonna be honest I thought it was a phoenix power spear

Happened to me too

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Apparently you can say that any blade can be a paragon

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:52 PM

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Pretty much

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:52 PM

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You only have a single javelin?

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:52 PM

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If I get rid of that third apothecary I could afford a paragon blade and that sonic shreaker

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:53 PM

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Is this one of your first rosters?

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:54 PM

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I do not own ANY of these models except for the praetor

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This is a list to work the army towards

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I'm getting the despoilers tommorow

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:54 PM

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I see

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I only play on tts, I don't have anything except for my praetor and Fulgrim

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:55 PM

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Can't say I've ever played on tts

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Also I'm considering changing the champ to a phoenix warden

silver perch Sep 30, 2023, 11:57 PM

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Personally I'd keep it as a champion, phoenix warden doesn't really do much

edgy quartz Sep 30, 2023, 11:57 PM

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It's just that your squads seem too few, with numbers all over the place. This strikes me as my rosters follow a sort of module, so I would advise that you double the despoilers, get rid of the volkite caliver guys unless you can make them go to 7-10, and put the moritat in a squad of assault destroyers

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Could I send you one of my 3k rosters to give you an example

vital egret Sep 30, 2023, 11:58 PM

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Sure

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It's mostly just stuff I'd like to get and that's also playable in the game too

edgy quartz Oct 1, 2023, 12:01 AM

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Sent

vital egret Oct 1, 2023, 12:01 AM

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edgy quartz It's just that your squads seem too few, with numbers all over the place. This s...

I only reduced the culverin guys because I don't want the list being too mean lol

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Same goes with the sunkillers

edgy quartz Oct 1, 2023, 12:01 AM

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This isn't mean

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10 sunkillers could be mean

silver perch Oct 1, 2023, 12:02 AM

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Tbh that many sunkillers kinda becomes an overinvestment. 6-8 is the sweet spot

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But 5 will do you good work while not being oppressive

trim kernel Oct 2, 2023, 2:13 PM

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Is 20 over kill?

edgy quartz Oct 2, 2023, 5:37 PM

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trim kernel Is 20 over kill?

I think so, yes

silver perch Oct 2, 2023, 10:28 PM

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Unless you plan on playing an apocalypse game or want to really make sure your friend never takes that knight/titan again

main socket Oct 2, 2023, 11:18 PM

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this, 20 is overkill in around the same way as 10 firedrakes is overkill, youre really just wasting points there

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