#World Eaters - 2k or 3k - Help build a Forge Lord list

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grizzled mesa
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Howdy, never played Horus Heresy before but I've read all the core rules and Liber Hereticus and I really want to build a list of World Eaters based on some backstory I have for a couple characters, I have no idea how to build it since it's a bit weird considering World Eaters but the jist is:

  • I want a Master of the Forge / Chief Techmarine character in that list, probably represented by the Forge Lord Consul
  • Basic bits of Lore: They're a company the World Eaters that are led by a Techmarine covenant, their leader is a extremely talented Techmarine who made a big mistake during a war and was oathbound by Angron to become a 24/7 Forge Lord for the legion, being denied the glory of battle he must content with leading on the sides and rarely taking up to battle, only when the legion's forge is under threat or he must protect a relic of the chapter. They wear a mix of MKII and MKV armor and such because they lend the newer patterns and better equipment to the other companies, because of this I would maybe include Castraferrum dreadnoughts and Indomitus Terminators just for theme, but they can field anything really
  • If I would use other Consuls I would use a Champion or Moritat because they're dope and fit with other characters I have in mind

Other than that, I don't know how to build my list, I just want a playable list that won't lose all games, maybe Armoured Spearhead because vehicles are cool? Idk

rancid jungle
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Don't you want to run some Brethren of iron ?

grizzled mesa
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You mean Thallax? Yeah I forgot to add them in

rancid jungle
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Or a praevian

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No, I meant the RoW BoI, it's to include castellax, vorax and thanatars in a legion list.
But the issue is that they don't synergize very well with the marines.

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You can also run a classic WE RoW and take some mechanicum allies

errant field
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arent castellax ok? your regular world eaters can hit things really hard and castellax act as a firebase

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especially with darkfire cannons

grizzled mesa
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The main idea here is that this army is led by a "Master of The Forge-Style techmarine guy", I don't really care about adding any Mechanicum and such, I would add them in the list for sure because it fits, but the main thing I'm seeking is how to include that idea in the army

Forge Lord Consul is the one that makes more sense to me, but using the Brethern of Iron RoW is also a good idea!

untold maple
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Truely, this is very open to what you want!

For general reasons - World Eater Dspoiler squads/Assault squads with minimal upgrades are great, thanks to the free Chain axe.

Starting with two twenty man units is a good idea, of either/both.

grizzled mesa
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(Also I have not read Liber Mechanicum yet)

untold maple
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Thats either 200 ish points, or 265 with jetpacks

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Castaferrums - Chuck a unit of 3 in. 125 points base each, + weapon upgrades. I'd assume you dont go double gun cause world eaters!

grizzled mesa
grizzled mesa
untold maple
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3 double melee Castaferrums? I dig

grizzled mesa
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I also don't mind not taking a RoW as long as that doesn't ruin the list ig

untold maple
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RoW's are 100% not needed

rancid jungle
untold maple
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++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - XII: World Eaters) [1,920Pts] ++

  • Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

  • Allegiance: +

    XII: World Eaters

Allegiance: Traitor

  • Rite of War: +

Rite of War

  • HQ: +

Centurion [100Pts]
. Forge Lord: Artificer Armour
. . Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Forge Lord

  • Elites: +

Castra Ferrum Dreadnought Talon [495Pts]
. Castra Ferrum Dreadnought: Gravis Chainfist with in-built ranged weapon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, 2x Meltagun
. Castra Ferrum Dreadnought: Gravis Chainfist with in-built ranged weapon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, 2x Meltagun
. Castra Ferrum Dreadnought: Gravis Chainfist with in-built ranged weapon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, 2x Meltagun

Techmarine Covenant [140Pts]
. Techmarine: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe, Warhawk Jump Pack
. Techmarine: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe, Warhawk Jump Pack

Thallax Cohort [125Pts]: 3x Thallax

  • Troops: +

Assault Squad [265Pts]
. Legion Assault Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. . Chainsword: Chainaxe
. 19x Legionaries (collective): 19x Bolt Pistol, 19x Chainaxe

Despoiler Squad [210Pts]
. Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainaxe
. 19x Despoilers (collective): 19x Bolt Pistol, 19x Chainaxe

  • Heavy Support: +

Heavy Support Squad [285Pts]: Lascannon
. Legion Support Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. 9x Legionaries (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol

Leviathan Dreadnought Talon [300Pts]
. Leviathan: Leviathan Siege Claw, Leviathan Storm Cannon, Phosphex Discharger
. . 2x Heavy Flamers

++ Total: [1,920Pts] ++

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Little 2K list I made up.

Forge lord, with points to spare for his weapons as you wish

2 Techmarines, his underlings, 1 Gets a jumppack

20 CC despoilers for running screaming,
20 CC Assault marines, flying and Screaming

3 Castaferrum with dual Melee and a melta gun in each hand, loping and screaming.
A big Leviathan boy to head up the charge with them

3 Thallax for funsises, jumping and screaming internally at their horrific fate

10 Lascannon friends because a little bit of sensible anti tank support is good

grizzled mesa
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Single unit of 3x Dreadnoughts right?

untold maple
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Yeah, they seperate at the beggining of the game into 3 units tho

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The weakness of this list is the techmarines/forgelords dont REALLY make their points back with healing dreads etc, so everything else has to pull its weight

grizzled mesa
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Yeah, the battlesmith rule seems pretty bad

untold maple
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I ran a Dreads + Forgelord/Techmarines list before and the result was that the Forgelord may as well have not existed

rancid jungle
grizzled mesa
untold maple
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sure, drop them for 130 points extra

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The army mostly lacks, in that version, High quality melee. The kinda stuff that can go toe-to-toe with other elites. Red butchers are your choice there, or a Praetor with command squad

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Of all the armies to do a "Forge lord centered" one, World eaters is the toughest 😉

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Though I suspect a Jumppack-Forgelord with Thunderhammer will smash a lot of people with the bonus snippy attacks

rancid jungle
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Damn they can get both a machinator and a jumppack ? Poor jump pack

grizzled mesa
grizzled mesa
untold maple
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Well, thats an 8 inch and 12 in range gun!

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Both of which you could shoot, then charge with

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Pop a Tank open with a cheeky sideshot melta, charge into the squishy juicy insides

grizzled mesa
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Yeah true, maybe I could lean into that, make a big Forge Lord fighter supported by other marines, Thallax and those melee boxes of death

rancid jungle
grizzled mesa
untold maple
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For sure. Really after your big tac/assault blobs the world is you oyster

rancid jungle
grizzled mesa
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Starting to lean on maybe a Brethren of Iron World Eaters list for lore reasons, would make sense for the Forge Lord to be on the sides commanding a Thanatar Siege-automata while the rest of the army rushes forward, since lore-wise he has an oath to stay out of combat as much as he can, plus +2 Battlesmith saves might end up being not completely useless to help the automata just a bit, maybe even a castellax for extra support

The rest of the army could stay similar to Kari's list! Maybe put the despoilers in rhinos, thought of maybe getting some terminators with the praetor, or just having the praetor go with despoilers even, could keep the Boxnaughts or swap them for something else if needed

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I could also just ditch the Forge Lord and say it's just his army and he's not there because he can't go to war directly, just fluff it around old armoury units and such

untold maple
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Despoilers in rhinos will always dissapoint due to no assault vehicle rule

grizzled mesa
untold maple
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For the points get 3 more guys and sprint across the battlefield

grizzled mesa
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Is there any good way to protect despoilers?

untold maple
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I wouldn't worry about them too much, they are the cheapest troops you can get.

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Tho land raiders is the other way

grizzled mesa
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COuld be a fun way to include a Land Raider Phobos or something

untold maple
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Yeah. Either as a heavy support slot or you start looking at the armoured assault ROW, which unlocks dedicated transport proteus

grizzled mesa
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++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - XII: World Eaters) [1,999Pts] ++

  • Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

  • Allegiance: +

    XII: World Eaters

Allegiance: Traitor

  • Rite of War: +

Rite of War: Brethren Of Iron

  • HQ: +

Centurion [140Pts]: Cortex Controller, Cyber-Familiar
. Forge Lord: Artificer Armour, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Refractor Field
. . Chainsword: Chainaxe
. . Plasma Pistol
. Forge Lord
. . Machinator Array: Flamer, Meltagun

Praetor, Cataphractii [165Pts]: The Butcher’s Claws, Warlord
. Legion Cataphractii Praetor: Berserker, Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Master of the Legion, Pair of Lightning Claws

  • Elites: +

Apothecarion Detachment [90Pts]: Legiones Astartes (X)
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Narthecium, Power Armour
. . Chainsword: Chainaxe
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Narthecium, Power Armour
. . Chainsword: Chainaxe

Castra Ferrum Dreadnought Talon [170Pts]
. Castra Ferrum Dreadnought: Gravis Chainfist with in-built ranged weapon, Meltagun, Multi-Melta

Red Butchers [470Pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour
. Devoured: 2x Power Axe
. Land Raider Proteus Carrier: 2x Sponson Mounted Gravis Lascannon, Legiones Astartes (X), Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter
. 4x Red Butcher (Pair of Power Axes): 4x Pair of Power Axes

Thallax Cohort [209Pts]: 5x Chain Bayonet, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Incunabulan Jet Pack, Lightning Gun, Lorica Thallax, 5x Thallax

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  • Troops: +

Castellax Battle-Automata Maniple [200Pts]
. Castellax: 2x In-Built Maxima Bolter, Mauler Bolt Cannon
. . Two Power Blade Arrays*: 2x Power Blade Array
. Castellax: In-Built Maxima Bolter, Mauler Bolt Cannon
. . Siege Wrecker & Shock Charger: Shock Charger, Siege Wrecker

Despoiler Squad [160Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
. Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainaxe
. 14x Despoilers (collective): 14x Bolt Pistol, 14x Chainaxe

Despoiler Squad [160Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
. Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainaxe
. 14x Despoilers (collective): 14x Bolt Pistol, 14x Chainaxe

  • Heavy Support: +

Thanatar Siege-automata Maniple [235Pts]
. Thanatar Cavas
. . Thanatar Cavas: Atomantic Deflector, Plasma Mortar, 2x Shock Charger, Twin-linked Mauler Bolt Cannon

++ Total: [1,999Pts] ++

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What you guys think of this?

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Did this without thinking too much tho

grizzled mesa
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Another idea could be taking off the Apothecaries and equipping the Butchers with Lightning Claws so they're a bit better when fighting sturdier characters (and fighting anyone really)

untold maple
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Tbh the double power axe isn't bad

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Small thing, dont bother with plasma pistol on the forgelord. His melta gun is better in every way and he can only fire one

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Looks fun! Other than minor tweaks for optimisation I've not got much to add!