4k Word Bearers List with Lorgar Transfigured

[stuck flume]

Word Bearers - Dark Brethren

Primarch:
Lorgar Transfigured
1x8 Corrupted Command Squad w/ Boarding Shields and Charnabal Sabres

HQ:
Kor Phaeron
Siegebreaker on Jetbike
Corrupted Master of Signals

Troops:
4x10 Tactical Marines w/ Vexilla and Vox, Sgt AA
4x Rhino DT

Elites:
2x10 Ashen Circle w/ Sgt AA and 1 Phosphex Bomb

Fast Attack:
1x3 Skyhunters w/ Multimelta, Sgt AA
1x3 Skyhunters w/ Warpfire Cannons, Sgt AA

Heavy Support:
Deredeo Talon: One w/ Arachnus Lascannon and Boreas Missiles, One w/ Hellfire Plasma and Aiolos Missiles
Deredeo Talon: One w/ Arachnus Lascannon and Boreas Missiles, One w/ Hellfire Plasma and Aiolos Missiles

Lord of War:
Ka'Bandha

This is a list for a 2v1 where I have 4k pts, and my two opponents each have 2k. Each will indeed be bringing a primarch, and I'm mostly concerned with ensuring I didn't overtune this list to hell and back. All feedback welcome:)

[rustic isle]

The only thing I can say is I really like how mobile this list looks.

Is Lorgar just going to walk around with his command squad? Or did you have some other units in mind for him to support?

Also are you opponents bringing Primarchs?

Nvm, just spotted that, who will they be bringing?

[stuck flume]

All I know is the Dorn is one of them. The other is still up in the air about who they're bringing.

And yes, Lorgar does intend to just walk around. We agreed to an objectives based, king-of-the-hill style game so starting on an objective isn't a bad idea so long as the bannerman continues to live

[rustic isle]

Okie dokie, then that seems reasonable, I'd be a bit worried about winning any melee brawl he could get into with the other Primachs though as his bodyguard does feel a little light to me

[stuck flume]

Ngl I do at least have the cheeky move of summoning Ka'Bandha via overwatch 😅

And an 8man command squad w/ a 2+/5++ and FnP(4+) from Lorgar's Power of the Word doesn't seem too horrible

Plus Dark Brethren buffing the whole unit

[rustic isle]

I actually have no idea how strong Ka'Bandha is, but I am going to assume he's a pretty reasonable powerhouse giving that he is a named greater deamon and all that

[rustic isle]

Yeah, it's far from bad, just seems like it doesn't really have any backup if they bring a list with a lot of tough close combat troops if that makes sense

[stuck flume]

Eh, if that happens then I'll just screen as best as possible with my tacs and let fly with the Deredeos and Skyhunters. Can't win every game, after all 😅

[rustic isle]

very true

[stuck flume]

Plus, I wanted to make sure I wasn't bringing an overtuned list. Of the three of us I have the most experience with 2e (and to a lesser extent, Wargaming in general) so I feel like it's on me to not bring a dick-kicker list

Plus, w/ Dark Brethren boosting the whole unit I can get WS8 chosen, which seems like an absolute meme

[rustic isle]

I agree with this mentality, I think it's much better to bring a fun list than a winning one.

If it happens to do both, then that's cool, but no sweat if you don't right?

[stuck flume]

Exactly

Thanks for the feedback!

[naive shard]

@stuck flume does lorgar have the heavy keyword or did you just want to give your command squad 5++? Imo with charn sabers losing the extra attack really hurts

[stuck flume]

I wanted to give his goons an invuln that wasn’t a T-shirt save

Yes I’ll lose the extra attack, but even a single point of dark favor will make them WS6, and thus able absorb more punishment in melee than the avg command squad

[main basin]

Just making sure, Lorgar, the Command Squad, and Ka’bandha all together is 1,000 pts or less?

[stuck flume]

We elected to ignore the “Retinue adds to the 25%” rule so that they could bring their special retinues as well

[stuck flume]

Update: My list was still overtuned😅