#Maru Skara 2k Emperors Children

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thin frigate
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Hi Everyone!
I'm currently building towards a 2k points list of EC with the Maru Skara RoW.
***Currently there are 250 Points left ***(Battlescribe calculates wrong due to its work in progress state). What would you add / change?

Please refrain from suggesting Units like Jetbikes or Speeders, since my long term goal is to reach 3k and for this i want to use those units that are currently out of my reach (Jetbikes, Speeders, and so on) since they are not available in plastic or are way over my current budget (FW).

Legion: III: Emperor's Children

  • HQ: +
    Centurion: Champion (Work in Progress), Meltabombs, Paragon Blade, Plasma Pistol

Centurion: .Vigilator (Work in Progress), Nemisis Bolter, Phoenix Rapier

Praetor
Archaeotech Pistol, Meltabombs, MC Paragon Blade, Warlord

  • Elites: +
    2x Apothecary

Contemptor Dreadnought: 2x Gravis Lascannon

Terminator Tartaros Squad: Legion Vexilla
3x dual LC
1x Chainfist, Plasma Blaster
Sergeant: Grenade Harness
Magna Combi-Weapon - Plasma Gun
Phoenix Rapier

  • Troops: +

Reconnaissance Squad: Augury Scanner, 5x Nemesis Bolter, Nuncio-Vox, 4x Recon Legionaries

2x Tactical Squad: 9x Legionaries, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword, Legion Vexilla,
Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Plasma Pistol, Phoenix Rapier

Tactical Support Squad: 5x Plasma Gun

  • Heavy Support: +

Heavy Support Squad: Augury Scanner, Nuncio-Vox,
5x Missile Launcher (with frag, krak and flak missiles)

stoic socket
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Who are you planning to Outflank? I'd switch up the Contemptor weapons for Melta/fist and throw him into Outflank.

Consider turning your Tartaros Termis into a command squad so they can have WS5 (although this would mean not being able to Outflank with them, it's still probably worth it on balance). You could use some spare points to buy them a transport.

Also think about switching your vanilla HSS for Sunkillers

thin frigate
smoky moth
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you cant outflank HQ

thin frigate
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not even IC's ?

smoky moth
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nope not as its written atm

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so all your IC start on the board

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except you vigilator i guess as he gets outflank from scout

thin frigate
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Okay, i can't directly read ot of the rules if IC's are permitted or not.
What about the Apothecaries? Can i add them and then flank the unit?

smoky moth
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yes techmarines and apothecaries gain the unit type and special rules of the squads they join so they get outflank

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1 issue i can see is you have the contemptor set up with double lascannons, but no vehicles in the list with searchlights, meaning your dread only has a 24" range turn 1 in night fighting, might limit what you can shoot

thin frigate
thin frigate
smoky moth
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you could take a 2nd contemptor with gravis melta and fist and add it to the outflank with your remaining points, since you have a 4th elite slot open still, 2 contemptors in 2k points is not too opressive

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and potentially a rhino for 1 of the tac squads if it starts on the board with the few points left over

thin frigate
smoky moth
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yeh

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can make some palatine blades from mk6 marines pretty easily if you can find some bolt pistols and swords (I use the Painbringer ones from AoS)

thin frigate
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Is the Sunkiller upgrade really worth it with just missile launchers?
No missiles for sunkillers

smoky moth
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not at all

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only really works for a lascannon squad

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they cant even take missile launchers

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and all options other than the base lascannon are too expensive

thin frigate
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Thought about plasma for later on, but with the nerf and the exorbitant point levels its hardly justifiable

smoky moth
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are you playing traitor or loyalist?

thin frigate
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Currently Loyalist, but I think later on they will become traitors, when I'll start building and converting new models

smoky moth
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yeh traitors have some nice stuff, not that it impacts you atm but adding the sub-sonic pulser to the HSS sergeant for 20pts would mean they completely ignore night fighting (no -BS) the shriekers on any melee character are really good too, even potentially squad sergeants as it makes even basic tacticals that much harder to kill in melee

thin frigate
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@smoky moth is the rapier the right choice for a AA Sarge?
I can't see the distinct advantage of the phoenix spear, ATM.

smoky moth
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we discuss that a lot in the EC faction-tactica, there doesn't seem to be a clear choice that is just better

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the +1 initiative from reach on top of the legion +1 has limited times where it will have much effect, the extra str on the attack making it easier to wound vs losing 1 attack

thin frigate
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I think challenges make the main selling point of the spear kinda moot

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Or am I misinterpreting reach?

smoky moth
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its just +1 initiative

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which can be useful on a tac sgt if they get charged by the enemy

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for units that are charging anyway, they will hit at +1 int anyway from the legion trait the turn they charge

thin frigate
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Thanks for the Info, but back to topic:
What would you add to reach 2k?
250 points remaining

smoky moth
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as you said, you need somewhere to put your champion and praetor

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so either phoenix terminators or palatine blades would work

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phoenix terminators could be taken as a retinue, 1 guy swaps spear for standard and rapier, frees up the force org slot and gives them line, thats 215pts without augments, palatines for 190pts in an elite slot could work too, a rhino isnt ideal but does give some protection for a few extra points

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or even just a veteran squad with some melee upgrades

thin frigate
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Thanks for the input, I will consider and try it 😀
Time for some calculations!

oblique lodge
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I'll second the Phoenix or Palatine suggestions, though Vets or a Command squad would also be good. You've got two choppy HQs that want a choppy unit to run around with.

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Command squad may be a good bang for the buck where getting across the board is concerned. With 250 you can take a squad of 8 with 5 power / charnabel weapons and a Rhino. They'd have a sturdy profile and a good number of models for tanking shots until they were able to charge, and you could put pressure on an opponent trying to move away from the reserve deployment by dumping them in midfield T1.

jade steeple
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i bought 5 of them for 30 dollars