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terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:25 PM

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3 games at 1500 pts on a 4x4 table

Restrictions for tournament
1500 pts
Tanks, fliers, drop pods, superheavies, primarchs not allowed

0-3 rhinos may be taken
0-1 bikes, jet bikes, artillery, monstrous creatures, levi dreads can be taken (1 of each)

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:26 PM

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No limits on contemptors?

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:26 PM

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yes

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Im about to post my list

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So far

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Unit Force Org Type Upgrades Points Upgrade Points Total Points
Centurion, legion delegatus HQ delegatus, nemesis Bolter 60 45, 10 115
Tactical Squad Troops 10 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla 100 100, 10, 5, 5, 10 230
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis Plasma Cannon, Gravis Lascannon 175 10, 20 205
Headhunter Kill Team Fast Attack multi melta, artificer armour 125 20, 10 155
3 Apothecaries Elite 2 apothecaries, artificer armour 45 90, 30 165

Headhunter Leviathan
Total 1470

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Please @median horizon happy with any suggestions, this is obviously a WIP list

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I wanted some Line in the middle of the board hence the 20 man blob

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:30 PM

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No fist on the dread?

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got nothing for close combat

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:30 PM

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Yeh is that an issue?

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Dread can just go into combat with a fist into terminators and win

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ws 4 terminators will struggle to kill one

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with brutal 3 every wound will kill a terminator

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:31 PM

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idk my Levi died to thunderhammers last game

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:31 PM

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since no way they'll make a save

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:31 PM

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He got lucky with invuln

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I will go with either lascannon and ccb weapon or plasma cannon

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I think plasma cannon may be viable because theres no vehicles???

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or cut some fat and take a levi?

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all ccb

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weapons

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:33 PM

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Probably cut some to get a levi

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one think nice with all nemesis bolters is that you can actually hurt dreads

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Main problem with the list is scoring

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1 tactical squad will die

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They'll kill that and win

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you are also playing alpha legions with no RoT

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:36 PM

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I was going to go Headhunter leviathan

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 3:36 PM

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The MC restriction applys to contemptors?

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:36 PM

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MC?

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:37 PM

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You still get one free RoT

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:37 PM

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Yes from the Delegatus

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 3:37 PM

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terse anchor MC?

Monstrous creatures

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:37 PM

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yes

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What MC can we take?

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lol

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:37 PM

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median horizon Main problem with the list is scoring

all recons can score

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I need something to score in the middle so I took a tactical squad blob of 20 with an apothecary

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:38 PM

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Oh they are they have line got confused looked at scouts

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:38 PM

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Yeh

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I will stick snipers at the back on objectives at home with augury scanners, make use of range

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And walk up the board with 20 taccies

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:39 PM

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Headhunter kill team is a troops choice to make the list legal

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:39 PM

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yes

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:39 PM

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since recon are support troops

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:39 PM

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I think ill outflank with HHs and try and snipe a character at the back of the map or use them to infiltrate mid board early

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:40 PM

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despoilers over tactials if you want to hold mid

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people will have to think twice to charge

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:40 PM

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shreds not all that i think though right

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Id rather overwatch 40 shots

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and try and pin with a frag grenade

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:41 PM

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well it be 60 shots since they in half range and fury of the legion

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:41 PM

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do you get fury in a reaction then?

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:42 PM

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yes

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:42 PM

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oh shit

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You sure?

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that means ill deffo want taccies

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:42 PM

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But only if they didnt move on your turn

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:43 PM

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overwatch reaction always counts as not moving

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:43 PM

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Think its the wording here

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not moved in its controlling players turn

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:43 PM

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ohh

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ok

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good point

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 3:43 PM

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I might consider taking 2 of those recon squads with bolter, shotgun or chainsword and getting more dudes instead. Then use those to push early and force your opponent to deal with them or outflank them for getting objectives later

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:44 PM

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Expanded units allowed?

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:44 PM

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yes

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:44 PM

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Thought about taking some lovely fulmentarus terminators

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:45 PM

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ahh i dont have them

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:46 PM

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west tapir I might consider taking 2 of those recon squads with bolter, shotgun or chainswo...

Yeh maybe, I just wanted to use snipers to make the most of Shroud bombs/AL trait of being out of range

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 3:46 PM

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And one more thing is you might struggle if your opponent plays those 3 rhinos or a levi and contemptors

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:47 PM

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Rending means snipers wound levis and redemptors automatically on a 5 up

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:48 PM

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What units do you have from option legions?

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:49 PM

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gal vorbak

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:50 PM

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Take them

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:50 PM

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arent they overpriced?

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55 pts a model

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:50 PM

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Toughness 5 and ws 5

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they can kill things

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and arent bad against terminators with rending 6+ and murderous strike

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dont get instant killed by power fist

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5+ feel no pain

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 3:53 PM

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Honestly for this kind of tunament it who7ld be funny to bring 120 tacticals plus apos and a character and then see what happens

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:53 PM

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word bearers would suit that playstyle

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always Ld 6 minimum

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:53 PM

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That list probably die to iron hands dreadnoughts

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:53 PM

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I dont think we would do so well

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 3:54 PM

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median horizon That list probably die to iron hands dreadnoughts

What list doesn't?

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:54 PM

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True

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Gal Vorbak would be a unit to tie stuff down in close combat to stop things going for the snipers

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and make a great distraction

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:56 PM

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Ok updated list so far

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Unit Force Org Type Upgrades Points Upgrade Points Total Points
Centurion, legion delegatus HQ delegatus, nemesis Bolter 60 45, 10 115
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 5 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla 100 50, 10, 5, 5, 10 180
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis Plasma Cannon 175 10 185
Headhunter Kill Team Troops (mandatory) multi melta, artificer armour 125 20, 10 155
2 Apothecaries Elite 2 apothecaries, artificer armour 45 45, 20 110
Gal Vorbak Elite 1 extra, 1 talons, 1 powerfist 275 free, 15 290

Headhunter Leviathan
Total 1485

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dropped an apothecary and a recon squad and 5 marines off the taccie for the gal vorbak

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dread is now fighty

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 3:57 PM

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Any reason not to go for recon company?

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:58 PM

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extra VP with HH leviathan

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5+++ shrouded first turn

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 3:58 PM

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With all those snipers it might be more valuable to get the first turn

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 3:58 PM

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With this much sniper you will kill the warlord

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to get the extra 2 vp

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 3:59 PM

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ROW is fine, especially since the vehicle restriction

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I have 15 snipers still and 16 with my HQ

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and 5 HHs

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are the gal vorbak worth 290 points when a Levi is about the same though :?

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Leviathan Dreadnought Heavy Support siege drill, phosphex discharger, volkite cavillers 270 5, 20, 15 310

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Unit Force Org Type Upgrades Points Upgrade Points Total Points
Centurion, legion delegatus HQ delegatus, nemesis Bolter 60 45, 10 115
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 5 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla 100 50, 10, 5, 5, 10 180
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, augury scanner 85 50, 10 145
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis Plasma Cannon 175 10 185
Headhunter Kill Team Troops (mandatory) multi melta, artificer armour 125 20, 10 155
2 Apothecaries Elite 2 apothecaries, artificer armour 45 45, 20 110

Leviathan Dreadnought Heavy Support siege drill, phosphex discharger, volkite cavillers 270 5, 20, 15 310
Headhunter Leviathan
Total 1500

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That is another option instead of Gal

west tapir Jul 25, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Levi will allways be better, but that said dreads are op so depending on how hard you want your list to be that might be an option

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:04 PM

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yeah probably leviathan

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but do you need the drill over the claw

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:04 PM

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why?

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theres no vehicles

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Ive gone with one of each

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:05 PM

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ah

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thought you went 2 drills

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:05 PM

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ah np

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one of each

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phosphex dischargers are OP aswell

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Im using Hydran Excursos

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excursor, should I combine one of my sniper squads to a 10 man?

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means less scoring but more Hits

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4 line units or 3 😦

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:07 PM

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Having 10 makes for a better return fire

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:08 PM

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Yeh, dreads can be distracting

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so hopefully they can take the brunt of the damage

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I can stick an apothecary in the 10 man aswell

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and an apothecary in the taccies

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and when they snapfire they hit on 5s

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so really good actually

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Yeah since you will be snapfiring when you need to move them

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:13 PM

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Unit Force Org Type Upgrades Points Upgrade Points Total Points
Centurion, legion delegatus HQ delegatus, nemesis Bolter 60 45, 10 115
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 9 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla 100 90, 10, 5, 5, 10 220
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, augury scanner, 5 extra 85 100, 10, 60 255
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner 85 50, 5, 10 150
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis Plasma Cannon 175 10 185
Headhunter Kill Team Troops (mandatory) multi melta, artificer armour 125 20, 10 155
2 Apothecaries Elite 2 apothecaries, artificer armour 45 45, 20 110
Leviathan Dreadnought Heavy Support siege drill, phosphex discharger, volkite cavillers 270 5, 20, 15 310

ROW: Warlord Trait
Headhunter Leviathan Hydran Excursor

Total 1500

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Is this enough line though>

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Maybe I should drop the HHs and get more taccies or recons

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:17 PM

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Oh looking back at the rite of war you need more Fast attacks than heavies

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:17 PM

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SHEET

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:18 PM

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maybe just do a recon company

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:18 PM

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scrap the HHs?

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:18 PM

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but the leviathan will have to be in reserves

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:18 PM

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scrap the taccies

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:19 PM

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You can still use a headhunter leviathan

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by getting another tactial squad

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and have the headhunters as fast attack

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How many points left?

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:30 PM

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4

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Unit Force Org Type Upgrades Points Upgrade Points Total Points
Centurion, legion delegatus HQ delegatus, nemesis Bolter 60 45, 10 115
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 10 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla 100 100, 10, 5, 5, 10 230
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 1 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla 100 10, 10, 5, 5, 10 140
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, augury scanner, 5 extra 85 100, 10, 60 255
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner, 3 extra 85 80, 5, 10, 36 216
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis Plasma Cannon 175 10 185
Headhunter Kill Team Troops (mandatory) multi melta, artificer armour 125 20, 10 155
3 Apothecaries Elite 2 apothecaries, artificer armour 45 90, 30 165
Rhino Dedicated transport 35 35

ROW: Warlord Trait
Headhunter Leviathan Hydran Excursor

Total 1496

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:31 PM

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2 chain bayonets on 2 marines or 4 bayonets

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:37 PM

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Sweet

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thinking maybe I should drop the vexhilla of the rhino taccy squad

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then get 5 more chain bayonets

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is that a good idea? @median horizon

median horizon Jul 25, 2022, 4:40 PM

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nah vexhilla so they dont fail leadership

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and run

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really dont want the squad getting sweeped

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 4:42 PM

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Unit Force Org Type Upgrades Points Upgrade Points Total Points
Centurion, legion delegatus HQ delegatus, nemesis Bolter 60 45, 10 115
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 10 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla, 2 chain bayonets 100 100, 10, 5, 5, 10, 4 234
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 1 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, vexhilla 100 10, 10, 5, 5, 10 140
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, augury scanner, 5 extra 85 100, 10, 60 255
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner, 3 extra 85 80, 5, 10, 36 216
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis Plasma Cannon 175 10 185
Headhunter Kill Team Troops (mandatory) multi melta, artificer armour 125 20, 10 155
3 Apothecaries Elite 2 apothecaries, artificer armour 45 90, 30 165
Rhino Dedicated transport 35 35

ROW: Warlord Trait
Headhunter Leviathan Hydran Excursor

Total 1500

terse anchor Jul 25, 2022, 6:09 PM

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Ah shit

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Vehicles start in reserve

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So this is it I think

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Unit Force Org Type Upgrades Points Upgrade Points Total Points
Centurion, legion delegatus HQ delegatus, nemesis Bolter 60 45, 10 115
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 7 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla, 2 chain bayonets, bayonet 100 70, 10, 5, 5, 10, 4, 1 205
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 7 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla, 2 chain bayonets 100 70, 10, 5, 5, 10, 2 chain bayonets 204
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, augury scanner, 5 extra 85 100, 10, 60 255
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner, 3 extra 85 80, 5, 10, 36 216
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis Plasma Cannon 175 10 185
Headhunter Kill Team Troops (mandatory) multi melta, artificer armour 125 20, 10 155
3 Apothecaries Elite 2 apothecaries, artificer armour 45 90, 30 165

ROW: Warlord Trait
Headhunter Leviathan Hydran Excursor

Total 1500

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is the plasma in the contemptor better than the chain bayonets/bayonet?

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na actually dw

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i have enough gets hot

terse anchor Jul 26, 2022, 8:38 AM

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Is it worth dropping the contemptor and the headhunters to get a leviathan?

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Or keep as is

terse anchor Jul 27, 2022, 8:56 AM

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Unit Force Org Type Upgrades Points Upgrade Points Total Points
Centurion, legion delegatus HQ delegatus, nemesis Bolter 60 45, 10 115
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 6 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla, 1 chain bayonets, bayonet 100 60, 10, 5, 5, 10,2 192
Tactical Squad Troops (mandatory) 6 extra, artificer armour, combi grenade launcher, power dagger, legion vexhilla, 1 chain bayonets 100 60, 10, 5, 5, 10, 2 192
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, augury scanner, 5 extra 85 100, 10, 60 255
Recon Squad Troops Snipers, power dagger, augury scanner, 3 extra 85 80, 5, 10, 36 216
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis Plasma Cannon 175 10 185
Contemptor Dreadnought Elite gravis autocannon 175 5 180
3 Apothecaries Elite 2 apothecaries, artificer armour 45 90, 30 165

ROW: Warlord Trait
Headhunter Leviathan Hydran Excursor

Total 1500

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