#Can we have some communication about what's going on?

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random flame
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There seems to have been no marketing this season even though it was promised and the game is already dead, pvp lobbies are almost empty outside of peak times and most of our streamers aren't even bothering streaming the game anymore.

Despite the unified pleads of the entire community sword priests recently got massively buffed with the halved sprint cost change that could have been made into a passive trait for paladins only instead and you now regenerate more stam than you lose from sprint attacking consecutively.

Can we have a Meet the Devs soon?

wispy atlas
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Can we have marketing please ? Can you make balancing/gameplay decision matching some top players feedback ?

rare stump
wispy atlas
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because they always decide the meta

rare stump
sweet geode
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Class balancing issues don't really bother me because I understand that’s something that takes time and it’s hard to get right; it requires a lot of work.

What actually worries me are other things, such as:

Stupid arena rotations (1v1, 2v2, and 3v3).

Stupid rotations for Crypt and Greenwood (day and night). Forcing players to play something they don't want to—especially when it heavily favors certain classes, like the Crypt map does—is terrible design. I get that the player count is low and you want to funnel the remaining players into a single map, but this just creates frustration and makes people quit.

Only two maps. I can understand this in a beta, but not for a 1.0 release. The problem is that this game is clearly still in beta.

Goldbrook as a tutorial. It’s a nice-looking map but offers nothing. Please rework it to be a PvP map with decent loot.

Absurd grinding for merchant and Lodge progression just to have it wiped later. This makes it so only hardcore players can progress and complete the game, driving away casuals (over 90% of the player base). Either don't wipe at all, or if you do, reduce the progression time by 75%. 60 hours of gameplay before even seeing an anvil? Please.

sweet geyser
wispy atlas
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Obviously, everything mustn"t be around top players, but ultimately it's gonna be the case

rare stump
sour gyro
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Lets not make this a balancing topic but rather the first part of his post about where tf the team is and communicate with is 🙂

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And marketing

rare stump
sweet geode
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what AWOL means?

hasty marten
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let's just hope they are not pulling the rug on our feets... I guess the old players that remains and/or came back and the new players want to beleive that its gona work and that the game will one day have a higher regular playerbase. But the idea is slowly fading away. Would be great to have a MTD about the actual point of view of the devs team on this topic, but also what they are planning to do in the close future about marketing.
Sure getting more maps & more classes will probably bring a few og back and some fresh player but will they stay once the hype fall back ? I'm not a dev nor do I work in video game industry but I would focus on keeping the game alive by growing player base and fixing already existing problems rather than focus on distant future with new feature / map / chars...
Gieb us intel pls

hasty marten
sweet geode
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ty!

hasty marten
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ngl, its kinda worrying that even on the website of notorious, the game, the videos and the FAQ is still labeled as Legacy : Steel & Sorcery ... Feels like the rename was not tought to the verry end, and it does more bad than good ... As someone said all the medias, guide and old videos are also labeled as Legacy which make finding info verry hard for new players... Future is not looking very bright and tbh I think most of the players are starving for comfort rn

sour gyro
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The hope was already damn low and it's getting even lower each day

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It's sad to see so much potential in a game just to be treated like this now

hasty marten
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yeah its not "let them cook" at this point its "are they even still in the kitchen ?" 😅

sour gyro
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That's the kitchen cctv rn

sharp gazelle
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I’m starting to think there’s no money for marketing and that they launched 1.0 to try to sell the game to another company

sour gyro
sharp gazelle
rare stump
hasty marten
rare stump
sharp gazelle
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Hey, is anyone there?

rare stump
leaden galleon
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come on!!! I just went through this with new world and then ashes of creation...another game that I was enjoying headed to the rubbish bin

spark orbit
thorn bane
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…… not a good sign 🪧, no communications, low population, lots of critical game crashing bugs. Doesn’t take a genius to figure this out. 😂

thin flare
spark orbit
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yah

spark orbit
rare stump
thorn bane
elfin plover
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Eldegarde – Current Situation Analysis

• ~470 average concurrent players (last 30 days)
• +106% growth month over month (strong rebound)
• 1,100+ daily peaks
• €24.99 price + in-game shop
• Venture-backed (Galaxy Interactive, Riot Games, 1Up Ventures, OTK)
• Hiring Build Engineer + preparing PlayStation launch

What this means:

The game had an early hype spike → heavy drop → strong 2026 rebound.

Current numbers show recovery, not decline.

~500 avg players is not a hit, but it’s a healthy niche base.

Console development + live build hiring = active investment, not shutdown mode.

Venture backing suggests multi-year runway.

Business estimate:

Likely 20k–40k copies sold lifetime.

With €24.99 price (≈ €17–18 net after Steam cut), estimated base revenue roughly €350k–€700k range before shop revenue.

In-game shop adds additional upside depending on engagement.

Outlook:

12-month survival: very likely.

If they stabilize above 300–600 avg → sustainable niche.

If console + crossplay push above 1,000 sustained → strong mid-tier success.

If numbers fall below ~250 again → second collapse risk.

Overall conclusion:

Eldegarde is not failing.
It’s a venture-backed live game in recovery phase, moving toward expansion.

Not a blockbuster — but absolutely viable if execution continues.❤️

thorn bane
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^ Hope the AI model is right 😭 …. Devs need to throw us a bone, a message, sticky note 📝 something

sour gyro
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So is this like our new hangout when we feel sad its dying out with no comm?

thorn bane
sour gyro
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My man!

spark orbit
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i do wonder what hte next balance patch will look like

thorn bane
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rare stump
spark orbit
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What if we all agree that goblin feet are pretty neat

fallen vault
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Here is what is REALLY going to be interesting:
WHAT will happen, say 1 month AFTER the coming wipe:
My prognosis:
A solid chunck of players will realize for the first time that there even is a wipe
(Btw Imo, it should be f-in mandatory to WARN customers of wipes!)
While ofc they will eagarly await new content of the next season, they will simply login to a rough awakening.
THEN said players will quickly leave the game NOT to return.
The playerbase will likely fall >200 - 250 EASILY over the course of the year.

The more you think about it:
The more you realize the root cause of the issue: Wipes.

PvE-Players are generally extremely Anti-Wipe as it seems.
And let's be real here: Do you HONESTLY expect me to put in the EASILY >50h of Grind to get BiS so I can properly do Arena ... JUST to take that all away again the next month!? So much for the PvP-Players.
Srsly, this is such extremely dumb game-design that I almost WANT to see the game fail for that alone.

BUT I am still here!
Hope dies last 😄

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PS:
You can tell they are ex-Blizzard Devs.
What they created, is a mini-MMO indeed, along with the needed Grind-Times and all.
And INDEED you can tell they are ex-Blizzard Devs.
Because they are unable to think outside of their field and MASSIVELY burnt their hands when they thought:
"Hey! ... Let's make an Extraction-Game!
The likes of Tarkov and Dark&Darker succeeded! Let's just do our own 🙂 WITH WIPES OF COURSE :DDDD"
Yeah ... extra funny that these games didn't exactly stand the test of time either ...

simple aurora
fallen vault
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The numbers will prove us right soon enough ...
UNLESS the wipes are removed.

simple aurora
simple aurora
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Good job deleting bozo

fallen vault
simple aurora
fallen vault
# simple aurora He is asking for communication you start spouting your wipe bullshit

This is a demand I share 100% btw. (I doubt anyone does not).
It would be promising to see ANY kind of actually relevant communication at this point:
-WILL wipes ever be removed?
-WILL they stand true to their original roadmap? Ideally expand on it?
-WILL there ever be a new substantial marketing-campaign?

Questions we have, that deserve an answer ...
Let's see if we will get it.

simple aurora
fallen vault
# simple aurora Bro dont mention me

To put it blunt: You say smth, I answer, that is how this works.
And generally speaking, Ignorance as to another isles argument is not something I would ever recommend.
BUT you can ... always mute ppl XD
And yet it is funny really ... hard to imagine someone is so in love with such a disgusting "game-mechanic" [if you even want to call it that] ... as wipes.

simple aurora
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Never see someone with a brain that works less than yours

fallen vault
simple aurora
fallen vault
# simple aurora Deadass get off my dick

Once again, you say smth, I answer.
And to quote you now: "You know there is an edit button right?"
Followed by a charming: "Never see someone with a brain that works less than yours"

And I dare remind everyone:
All that was proposed was actually NOT wiping everyone progress once every 3 Months.
And for some reason some ppl go CRAZY whenever this suggestion is made even though numbers, reviews and just general common sense speak clearly on the matter.

simple aurora
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Derailing a thread with pure stupidity

fallen vault
fallen vault
simple aurora
# fallen vault I think this is a fairly relevant post 👆

Youve said absolutely nothing relevant to the topic of this thread and then you bring random bs from other threads that are also unrelated. If you need some attention just say so but for the last time get off my dick theres gotta be someone in your country you can ride this hard

fallen vault
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OMG the Clown-Emoji ...
I am truly defeated now

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I revoke all I ever said 😭
Wipes are awesome and from now on, I LOVE getting all my hard-grind progress deleted multiple times a year 🫡

quaint cloak
fallen vault
quaint cloak
fallen vault
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PS: You should be happy someone is even having a conversation here at all.

untold forge
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I’ve gone back to league of legends, I enjoy this game and hate saying it as I know people throw this phrase around easily. But kind of feels like a dead game now with little chance now. But I hope to be proven wrong, never say never.

rare stump
sharp gazelle
shut pike
fallen vault
shut pike
fallen vault
shut pike
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The number is also WAY higher because like I said, they have their own launcher that a majority of the playerbase owns the game on. It doesn’t make much sense for old players to buy the game again to review it.

fallen vault
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ALL hail our Lord and Saviour Gabe Newell.

fallen vault
shut pike
fallen vault
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ebon harbor
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imma say som shit that people may not like, but first a big thanks to the devs for creating this game. however, its time to sell it to a company with the man power and dedicated player base that might help push this game forward. a company like (epic games) for example. 🤷‍♂️

fallen vault
ebon harbor
fallen vault
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Protector of Gamerkind
Bane of the greedy Developer

ebon harbor
rare stump
thorn bane
rare stump
sharp gazelle
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Honestly, I don’t see the logic in it, how hard would it be for them to give us a few words…

rare stump
fallen vault
# sharp gazelle Honestly, I don’t see the logic in it, how hard would it be for them to give us ...

Well their silence can effectively mean only one of 2 things;
EITHER
they already threw in the towel long ago and silently left the stage, meaning the game will ofc be kept running for as long as the few monthly purchases justify the minimal server costs, but have fun with a community of ~50 average players.
OR
They actually are preparing SOMETHING! And are merely waiting until said something is ready to for revealing.
...

Logic would heavily lean towards the former though ...

thorn bane
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Compare to how frequently they use to communicate, how often, how transparent etc Silence for this long is concerning 😬

rare stump
thorn bane
# rare stump writing was on the wall when they did same thing S3 imo, copium was just too str...

This is my honest theory (tin foil hat), the studio made this game not for long term growth but to create something unique, badass with a solid foundation. Now that 1.0 base build is set, they are looking for buyers / investors to take it over, the new buyhers / investors will then spend money on scaling it, marketing it and growing it from 1.0 to more and beyond. Many businesses do that, they build out a truly great demo / v1.0 and then sell it to the highest bidder and either stay on to see it continue or cash out from the sale. Thats my theory (tin foil hat off).

spark orbit
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They were already kind hoping for people to stream iot

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like a big one they were hoping for was summit1g

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i recall vakeri saying "please summit play our game" on a stream once

sour gyro
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I'd say looking for new investors or potential buyers

thorn bane
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if someone has money to buy this game, if it gets the right marketing thats ez money in the bank

sour gyro
pearl widget
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It would be interesting to know, how much money is required for a effective marketing campaign of a game (genre etc.) like Eldegarde

fallen vault
# pearl widget It would be interesting to know, how much money is required for a effective mark...

That 100% depends on your definition of "effective".
But in order to get the playercount to the 4-digit, not much.
You could probably pay a few medium-size content creators to give your game a shot and that could be it.
BUUUUT 😄
Said content creators will charge a substantial extra if they have to LIE about your game being good 🙂
(E.g. Raid Garbage Legends XD)
AND
If said game is not good, the players will leave as quickly as they came 🙂
Which would in consequence require more and more marketing.
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IS the game even ready to recieve marketing?
And I fully believe in its current state it is not.

WHICH is actually the optimistic stance btw.
Because the alternative is: The Devs already abondoned the game XD

hasty moth
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The best option would be for them to work on the console release + a good endgame patch + the latest big marketing push + a free weekend

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But if that is indeed their solution, I don't see why they stopped communicating

fallen vault
thorn bane
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… ehh I think the writing is on the wall right now

hasty moth
rare stump
thorny fossil
rare stump
waxen parcel
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please not is just bought the game with my brother last day and we have so much fun

waxen parcel
fallen vault
# waxen parcel i mean when they wanna go away and left the game they should make it a koop game...

In theory yes.
In reality: What possible $-gain would that bring the Devs on the short-run?
SURE it would bring them respect and a certain thankfulness of the community, but that ain't worth s*** to them if we look at the short-run XD (Which we 100% should, seeing the game dying and them scrambling for the $)
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All it would do would be to potentially pre-occupy potential customers of future products.
And if there will not be any future products ... why should they care?

HOWEVER:
This is all based on the game ACTUALLY dying.
There is still a kernel of hope!

MAYBE
They will actually save the game.
-> Remove wipes (replace them with a prestige-system or whatever)
-> Focus more on the Social-Hub and the Arena (or just PvP in general)
-> Give the PvE-exclusive players a few more tasty morsels to chew on

It could be comparatively simple and I believe that there is still a 10-20% smth like this will happen.

waxen parcel
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sad to hear about that as new player im also enjoing it alot and dont want and can refund it since i played last day more then 10 hour in one session

rare stump
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bump

thorn bane
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Did the dev Anboni leave the studio? His YT content IS not about Eldegarde it’s all about WoW for the last few weeks Also, I don’t see Chris listed on Discord anymore? Sigh 😔

rare stump
spark orbit
hasty moth
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fallen vault
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Ok, so we're likely NOT getting Witch, new map, Guild hall or WHATEVER all of this post-alpha Roadmap stuff is.
BUT:
Hopefully we will at least get a final patch that will clear up some fronts and ideally fuse the existing game into something not reliant on seasons (as without devs to actively take care of those, they logically can't work all too well).
At the very least that should take care of the wipes which originally killed the game in the first place.

thorn bane
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My theory, if the game gets a buyer it will get marketing + a lot of really cool stuff. If this game isn’t bought… it will sit on the shelf until servers go offline…. or the studio gets another round of funding which could happen (more debt)

fallen vault
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(Look it up on Steam and brace for a laugh if you are bored :D)

willow elbow
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How long is one searon and when it starts or ends?

fallen vault
willow elbow
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thats wild, i love the game, last year game steel hunters was cancelled, now this, unbelivable how the gaming industry changed

fallen vault
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...
HOWEVER:
I do not believe this season to be the least season because I still think it SOMEWHAT likely that AT THE VERY least the devs will still try to get the money of the console-peasants before signing off completely.

tribal dagger
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It just seems very strange to release a game and have no communication

fallen vault
willow elbow
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we need to somehow pirate this game and run it on our own community xD

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btw ark migrated into the wow tbc he said he wont pay for, so thats a not good sign

rare stump
last yoke
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Interestingly, when I wrote in May 2025 that this game was over, and that it was waiting for the sale or closure of servers, my discord was simply blocked. And now it's being openly discussed. This was understandable when the developers were working on a new mage class, and people just left in droves, because the game had a lot of bugs and it was impossible to play it. The same thing is happening now. There is no balance in a game where class balance is important. The game's client is not stable. On a 1-on-1 map, players form groups, and no one does anything. It's just a shame.

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And they call it a release. Isn't it clear that no one needs your new Witch? Again, the developers will invite their friends to a closed testing of the new class, after which we will get a new class that will be very strong or very weak. It seems to me that the developers simply do not respect the players, and this is confirmed by the fact that they have been silent for more than a month....

rare stump
hasty moth
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Personally, what worries me is the total lack of communication for the past MONTH (including Seung, who was apparently very active) + at least 4 developers looking for new jobs

hasty moth
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My opinion doesn't matter, but if I don't hear any news about the game this week, I'll consider it dead and uninstall it

rare stump
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poor a soju on the curb for our fallen Seung

chilly ginkgo
willow elbow
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This game has become my comfort zone in pc games, I can't lose it downed🫡 💔

thorn bane
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Eldegarde 1.0 is a solid foundation if someone had the funds to take it from here 😂… sadly im broke and can not

rare stump
rare stump
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bump

sour gyro
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Bump daddy

rare stump
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b diddy ?

pearl widget
rare stump
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waxen parcel
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wtf

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they killing the game

waxen parcel
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yeah good part is all who bougth it 2 weeks ago can get a refund so me too lucky but still its a sahme the game was good but the content was just missing and now this its like ashes of creation

chrome solar
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Total bs. Everyone mentioned low numbers and asked if the game can survive. They stated as they approach 1.0 release they would market the game to combat this and to not worry.
People then buy the cosmetics to help support the game with the assumption the game would get marketed and thus sustained.

But that didn’t happen. Just straight up lied.
I guess if a dev says they have a plan to increase numbers, they really mean they don’t know what they’re doing or how to that.

ebon harbor
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give the fkin game away

chrome solar
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Guess I should’ve known. Their audio guy Kyle jumped ship a bit back so they must’ve known this was coming. Just leadership lying to people who bought the game to pull as much money as they could.

random flame
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yikes

thorn bane
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Sigh 😔 leadership dropped the ball, so much dev talent wasted

pearl widget
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„Leadership“ 🙂

sour gyro
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I guess we got our comms guys

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slim cairn
proper berry
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So the dev did a savage cash grab and are not even willing to try to sell the game to another studio or make it free to play with cosmetics purchases model...? So what about all of us who supported the game? It's not very fair to the community!

dull hull
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and steam doestn care, this should be brough to the court

sweet geyser
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They didn’t even last a single official season, what a meme

simple aurora
pearl widget
waxen parcel
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no

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until now i did not get any refund

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steam support keeps on saying the same that its over 2 hours even after sending that screenshot im almost belive they never speak with steam

simple aurora
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hasty marten
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Ahaha you dug that man xD