#Please use the new CMS Channel

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merry orchid
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Hello! I can't decide which CMS integration to use in Astro. If you are using one in Astro, could you tell me why did you decide to use it, please? Thank you!

ashen anchor
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This really depends on what you are wanting to do..

pine wagon
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content collection 😉

merry orchid
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Ah, you are right. Sorry! Let's say I have some contents named blog, faq and testimonials. I want to be able to add more and change. Basically, I have some contents and want to update/edit/delete them with an UI.

merry orchid
ashen anchor
pine wagon
merry orchid
pine wagon
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if you narrow it down to two or thee then people can share their experience

pine wagon
ashen anchor
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Not sure on free for the Darkmatter. Could try something like DecapCMS or StaticCMS

merry orchid
# pine wagon haha was gonna ask, what's your budget 😉

Well, I am kind of a freelancer and most of my clients are non-tech related people. So, you know, you have be as simple as possible. I can't just tell them to create an .md file etc. So I also want to offer a free choice for my clients. That's why I am asking if there is a similar choice with a free plan 😅 .

pine wagon
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true, that's wise

merry orchid
ashen anchor
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So ive been dealing with this same exact thing lately. Im using Sanity.io now and it seems to be good

merry orchid
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I also tried Storyblok but it is an overkill I think. After all I just want to CRUD some blog post, no?

merry orchid
spiral quarry
# merry orchid Hello! I can't decide which CMS integration to use in Astro. If you are using on...

There are plenty of options, you just kinda sorta gotta decide which best works for you and your use case, your familiarity with the project, and willingness to explore & tinker!

https://jamstack.org/headless-cms/

Personally, I chose to go with Directus, hosted on DigitalOcean.
Sanity and Storyblok seem very very popular around this server.

If you're looking for the simplest "plug-n-play" type, then DecapCMS/StaticCMS would be your best bet.

Jamstack.org
Headless CMS - Top Content Management Systems | Jamstack

Check out this showcase of some of the best, open source headless CMSes. This is community-drive so be sure to submit your favorite CMS today!

hollow compass
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I dont know, why anyone is not suggesting TinaCMS. You can give that a try.

ashen anchor
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I tried tinaCMS and ran into multiple issues.

hollow night
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I am using Sanity for two client projects and I think it's pretty good. You can get pretty far with their free tier.

silent umbra
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Little late to the party here but my suggestion is anything git based (TinaCMS and DecapCMS are the 2 I know off the top of my head). A git-based CMS will commit your client's changes directly to the repo that way you can rebuild/deploy whenever there is a commit to the repo. If your using Netlify/Vercel they will automatically redeploy for you, or if your client uses a traditional hosting service, you can use a GitHub Action to rebuild and upload to FTP using: https://github.com/marketplace/actions/ftp-deploy

hollow night
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Hmm, sanity can trigger a webhook when making changes too. There is also a plugin to create a deploy button in the dashboard. I never felt comfortable telling my clients to make GitHub accounts.

silent umbra
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Interesting! I haven't experimented with a CMS that has webhooks but that would work great too, although it sounds like it might be harder to setup (not sure!). As far as making GitHub Account, it depends on the service, for example TinaCMS has a free cloud based editor that is easy for non-technical people to use

hollow night
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yeah, it's pretty easy to work with. their docs are massive and they have a pretty helpful slack channel (I sound like a shill at this point :D). I wanted to give Tina a try before coming to sanity but they have a limit for 2 editors on their free tier I think. with sanity, you get 20 users.

silent umbra
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Wow that is generous, I have heard a lot about Sanity I need to try it out. The free tier for TinaCMS is a downside, I wish they at least had a cheaper paid tier than $29/month

merry orchid
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Hello people. I explored little bit last night. I tried Sanity, TinaCMS and DecapCMS. I removed the Sanity from my list because of React must-have integration (I just want pure Astro but it is quite easy to set up and use. I recommend Sanity if you don't have a problem with having React). I tried TinaCMS and it is pretty easy to set up also. It is git based to with Vercel, automatic deploys. One thing I didn't like is sorting (I wanted to sort just draft posts but as far as I know you can only sort asc-desc, maybe you can do it, I don't know) and needing some sort of premium in order to have editorial workflow. So lastly I tried DecapCMS (used to known as Netlify CMS) and it is what I chose to use for now. Editorial forkflow + better UI when showing draft posts etc. One problem that I encountered with DecapCMS is auth is easier to set up with Netlify Integrity (I think that was the name) but I didn't like being vendor-locked so I found a library with that you can use OAuth with GitHub and log in to your CMS. So my choice is to use DecapCMS for know. Thank you all for commenting and helping out. I leave the library repo here: https://github.com/dorukgezici/astro-decap-cms-oauth

Thank you all!
PS: Sorry for grammer mistakes!

ashen anchor
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You can self host TinaCMS. But I ran into issues with that trying to get it working.

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I am enjoying Sanity so far. But the Groq and stuff is tripping me up

merry orchid
ashen anchor
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I couldn’t get the media to load for me. But I may just use DecapCMS since Sanity is giving me some issues trying to just pull images.

merry orchid
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On that note. I was able to upload images successfully but haven't try to use them in <Image /> component.

left sapphire
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Regarding Sanity and React, I can't see a reason why the React components can't be ported to something else...

merry orchid
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Yes, you're correct but still, it is extra work. As I said, I just didn't want to use React. I am sure it is a good CMS.

cyan scarab
half ledge
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I also had issues with images in TinaCMS and dont really recommend it. I got Keystatic CMS working really well with Astro though! Using the keystatic cloud for deplpyment. It's another local / git based CMS. It's not perfect but it works really well for me so far. That way you can still use content collections with MDX (or markdoc) and image optimization, plus you can register custom components as well

fast schooner
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I think @tulip osprey got images working with Tina

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I mean <Image/>

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keystatic is nice, only thing it’s missing for me is live preview which decap has but it’s quiet limited admittedly can’t do anything cool like live preview remark plugins

merry orchid
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I did this, it looks, idk, ugly but works. @tulip osprey could you show me your solution, please?

const blogImage = import(`../content/blog/${blog.data.headerImage.split(".")[0]}.jpg`);
short crescent
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I've also been curious about Keystatic and will probably try it out soon.

silent umbra
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I got images working in TinaCMS awhile ago, I forgot exactly how this worked but I used a field object like this: ```ts
{
label: "Thumbnail",
name: "image",
type: "image",
ui: {
parse: (val) =>
(val && (val.includes('https://assets.tina.io')) ? '/' + val.split('/').slice(4).join('/') : val.replace('/../src/images', '')),
format: (val) =>
(val && (val.includes('https://assets.tina.io')) ? val : 'https://assets.tina.io/' + clientId + val)
},
required: true,
}

ashen anchor
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Im doing Keystatic right now and enjoying it. @half ledge Were you able to customize your Brand in the admin page? Im trying to add a custom logo and running into some issues. No one seems to be online in the Keystatic Discord

half ledge
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I've asked a number of questions there and always gotten a response within a day or so (except the weekends)

tranquil leaf
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Hey there 👋 I'm trying DecapCMS and the live-preview thing is promising but has anyone managed to make it work with Astro?

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I just get a plain html

fast schooner
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https://github.com/OliverSpeir/astro-decap-ssg-netlify-identity here I use a package.json script to put my tailwind style sheet in /global so I can register it to the preview and I register a custom preview to control make rhe live preview only show the body field

I really wish decal would let you use remark plugins on the live preview thoufh

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@tranquil leaf

ashen anchor
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I started using Keystatic. But I hate that it seems like if I want to manage media. Im locked into their subscription

half ledge
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You can just upload images into github at a folder you specify. Then it's free

tulip osprey
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I got images working in tina using z.preprocess but it's a mess

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i wouldn't recommend tina with astro

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keystatic is pretty nice

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i really need to work on a cms for astro, there's too much things to do already lol

ashen anchor
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I’m getting to the point where im about to just roll my own CMS.

ashen anchor
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@tulip osprey If you wanted to try and work together on a CMS for Astro. I’d be down for that.

grand tapir
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In the last month I have given just about every CMS I can find a go. A few people in general are also talking about writing one with AstroDB. Would be a fun project to get involved with.

Regarding React with Sanity, that is only a requirement for the content editor, which to my understanding is hosted separately on the sanity servers and shouldn't effect the runtime of your astro app in any way. Am I wrong on this?

pine wagon
grand tapir
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For me, content collections are not a viable solution because I have non-technical clients. They expect a wordpress-like UI for updates to their site.

I think one feature an Astro-first CMS could have is automatically building out the UI based on the content collection schemas. Currently when working with a headless CMS you have to define the schema twice. Once for Astro and once for whatever CMS you are using.

pine wagon
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That's a tricky one, "editors" how good should they be ?

  • text only
  • simplified wysiwyg
  • final rendering quality editor
    Most professional cms require a sort of abstraction, e.g. you don't manpulate text but logical boxes with arrows, which in my opinion is a high price to pay and drives away from the JAM "revolution", I respect the wysiwyg wish, and I wish it myself for higher efficiency.
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It's only a pity that every cms needs an own editor and there's no standard one we can convert from.

grand tapir
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I don't think a full wysiwyg editor is necesary, but something that renders MD markdown previews in realtime and has the typical "Bold", "Italic", etc UI buttons that most non-technical people would expect.

CMS aren't really for developers IMO. They are for copywriters, marketing teams, small business owners, etc.

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Something extendable like tiptap would be awesome.

fast schooner
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What we need is to load the dev server in the browser like stackblitz then you can support mdx components and everything I think wysiwyg is ideal as well for non technical people tinyMCE or tiptap, slate is ok too then you can create special components for them that use .mdx components so they can easily do calls to action etc

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less than that if you just want a rich text to markdown with a live preview of that that’s pretty good too if you can run remark plugins before the live preview then you can use remark directives for custom components

grand tapir
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Would it be treason to write the Astro CMS in something more dynamic like React, but just offer first class support for integrating with Astro projects (things like schema inferrence from frontmatter, etc.)

fast schooner
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High treason in fact

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no that’s not crazy haha probably smart since it is an app

grand tapir
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I mean, I guess we can just use the client directive where needed, but anything with live preview is probably going to need it.

fast schooner
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Ya you’d have enough state to manage a framework would definitely help out, you’d want to do stuff like saving drafts to local storage and show branch deploys etc

grand tapir
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I think a good MVP would be a "backend" or admin/ route that creates a simple UI and a few forms for each content collection defined in your app.

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Maybe we can just build forms based on the Zod schemas?

fast schooner
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two options also you could do git based where the cms app makes pull requests or use astro studio for a DB

grand tapir
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Yeah that's true.

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I have tried git-based CMS but I don't love that they require a full rebuild of the site.

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Not sure if there is anyway around that in SSG mode regardless though

fast schooner
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all static sites will need a full rebuild I think the vercel adapter gives some ISR functions but that’s only for vercel

For SSR you could pull live from DB but it would be slower performance I guess with astro studio edge DBs it wouldn’t be tooooo bad

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I guess by SSR I mean “on demand render”

grand tapir
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We need a way for each route to get it's own serverless function that renders the page and sticks it in a CDN

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Then we can invalidate single routes as content updates are made

fast schooner
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yeah that’s what astro on demand adapters do

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oh that is ISR

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pretty nice pattern currently only available from vercel adapter though

grand tapir
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It looks like there was more talk about ISR for astro a while back in the github discussions but it got lost in the backlog

fast schooner
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personally I don’t really mind a full rebuild but it definitely is not ideal when the site gets bigger and bigger

grand tapir
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It's moreso that I don't want the site to crash because someone figured out a way to input a string where a datetime should have been and now the whole site is down.

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And I'd like to be as economical with build minutes and bandwidth as possible.

fast schooner
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Mm fair, the site wouldn’t “crash” but new updates might break until an “admin” can fix it but that would be admins fault for not people proofing haha

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Usage cost is definitely a thing

grand tapir
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Oh, I guess vercel would do a rollback

fast schooner
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Depending on how data is stored

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ya if a new build breaks the old site stays live

grand tapir
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Are you knowledgable at all on what goes into the adapters?

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How difficult would it be for example, to write a similar ISR functionality for Cloudflare?

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Using workers or somethign

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*something

fast schooner
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it’s like you said basically, they just take the runtime code for “on demand rendering” which is astros term of request time rendering or SSR instead of SSG and then put the runtime into serverless functions / cloudflare page functions or in a node app etc

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I’m not sure about ISR on cloudflare honestly I’m not sure how it works for vercel adapter tbh

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I’m assuming it has to do with invaliding build cache

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and cloudflare does has a beta build cache

grand tapir
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Okay thanks. Something to think about

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The astro integrations page refers me to the discord. Do you know if there are any docs on that sort of thing floating around somewhere?

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I see the integrations channel. I'll snoop around over there.

hollow night
brittle light
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Hi ! Discovering this channel and glad to see I’m not alone to miss a simple way for non tech people to edit astro content. 
For a long time I looked for a GUI that sits on top of Astro’s content collections, acting as a flat file “CMS”.
An authed back-office that gives friendly access to Astro .md files as a form, and allows users to trigger a build once content is updated - astro files sitting next to the static generated files in the web host so everything sits at the same place and can be easily self hosted.
I probably wouldn't be able to do that at the moment but in my head that sounds pretty “simple” so I was surprised about its non existence. Also I’m 100% front-end junior dev and maybe don’t understand all the potential issues this would involve. I'd be happy if I could have some feedback about waiting for that piece of software or not, or even try do do it myself one day. Thanks 🙂

half ledge
high tangle
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Keystatic requires auth with GitHub though, so it's a no no for non-technical people that don't have a GitHub account

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I kinda regretted choosing TinaCMS over Keystatic, but the auth thing made me stay

dusk wasp
half ledge
high tangle
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Eh, I don't know. My school teacher probably doesn't want to make a GitHub account just for editing content. You're right tho

fast schooner
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I think about making people have GitHub accounts too it’s annoying

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Especially now that 2fa is required

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But yeah it’s not too bad

high tangle
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I'm just going to wait for that astro CMS... It's gonna be the biggest thing since astro/db

brittle light
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Do you know where I could find infos about that and what is planned ?

high tangle
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I don't know to be honest, I read somewhere here on this server that they're working on a CMS for Astro. Someone posted a link as well, I think it was in #off-topic

tulip osprey
high tangle
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Is the repo still private or something? I can't give it a star then 😔

tulip osprey
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Yes still private for now but I think it should be made open source next week

distant pagoda
# tulip osprey Here is the link https://astro-studiocms.xyz/

It will be awesome:

  • to have images uploaded through WYSIWYG in Image/Picture tag
  • to be able to query images uploaded to the blog post in components. I want to use them for schema structured data, current solution I am using is messy.
  • UI to fire an error if the length of the input does not match the config.ts .min().max(). Also it would be nice to have some kind of UI indication on how many letters to reach min/max limit. (Both sanity and Directus has this functionality)
  • to be able to create aliases (also called references or one2many) for links. So I do not need to change every <a href> link if I changed a slug of some file, also to prevent links from returning 404 responses. (But SEO wise I would prefer that if the <a href> link return 404 response then I get an error on build)
tulip osprey
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For your information, this project is focused on astro db / studio, not content collections

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as for the rest, I haven't coded it so I'm sure you'll be able to open issues once the repo is open-sourced

opaque sonnet
rancid smelt
bold steppe
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I mean

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Directus is my favorite

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but there's also pagescms

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which is based on GitHub

vernal spoke
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Just to add my 5 cents on this. I've been evaluating the current state of headless cms's for an upcoming client project and this is my take so far:

Keystatic
Nice integration with Astro collections, free to host alongside your Astro codebase. That said, the branching/pull-request side adds an extra layer of complexitity. Fine for more technical clients, but less so for non-technical clients.

Keystone
Similar ui, but db driven using postgres or mongo. In theory should be able to host for free on Vercel with their built in postres db's. The biggest advantage with both keystatic and keystone is the extendible editor, allowing you to define custom blocks and the built in layout system. Both can also be setup as separate repos or as a monorepo along your astro code. Going the monorepo route means you need to set your config to hybrid and include the react integration. I personally opt for separate repos for the site and cms. Important to note that i18n is not yet supported.

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SveltiaCMS
Modelled on Decap, sveltiacms (as the name suggests) is built with svelte. It extends on what decap offers, layering on additional functionality, like built in support for DeepL to handle translations. The biggest downfall currently is the editor, but that is currently being worked on and will provide a similar experience to keystone and keystatic. The auth uses github, but can be setup with other auth providers.

Directus
I tend to reach for Directus for projects that require more than just a cms. While directus offers everything you'd expect from a modern cms, it goes even further by letting you create custom flows (which are really powerful), custom interfaces (using vue!), custom dashboards and a growing ecosystem of extensions. I generally use Railway to host Directus, which costs somewhere between $5-10 per month.

TinaCMS
I've been following the tina project since it's inception and was excited to finally try it out. Like Keystone and Keystatic its built with React and requires you to setup Astro in hybrid mode and include all the React integration. The overall editing experience is nice, but the i18n side is a bit clunky.

Darkmatter
I love the idea of a native app tightly integrated with Astro. While it's perfectly suited to technical folk on mac, it adds a layer of complexity for non technical clients, requiring them to have git setup on their machine and understanding the push/pull/branch jargon. I reached out to the dev and he is working on a web-based version, which should eliminate some of the above issues.

Payload
There is so much to love about Payload (albeit it being written in React) and with the 3.0 update, where it's becoming an extension of Next, I must admit it's been the only thing to come close to drag me kicking and screaming to the React camp.

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Astro Studio CMS
I love the idea of having the CMS and site code side by side, with a single config for collections and a tight integration between the two. Having something similar for Astro (ala Astro Studio CMS) which is not dependant on any framework would be friggen awesome. Even more awesome would be to be able to choose between managing the content via content collections, Astro DB or both. Static content in mardown, dynamic content (like comments, like, profiles, etc) handled via the db. In an ideal would the auth would be offloaded to an external auth extension, making it easy to use existing auth providers.

Cockpit
A project which has been around for ages, Cockpit takes an interesting approach, where it's a php based package that can be dropped into any traditional hosting. This does require paying for a basic hosting package, but that should be pretty minimal. It supports defining custom content collections and custom forms.

WordPress.com
While I've mostly moved on from WordPress, I recently took on a weekend challenge of rebuilding a blog I frequent, which after some digging in the source could tell was using WordPress.com. Knowing the rest api endpoints, it was pretty trivial to setup Astro to pull in the latest content at build. Not exactly the most intuitive of the above options, it does provide a quick backend to manage your content, while having all the flexilility of Astro to craft a completely custom front-end.

spiral quarry
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@vernal spoke I do with the above post was broken down into individual posts, so you could later gauge peoples reactions with each CMS 🤔
Would be truly interesting to see.

I fell in love with Directus as it's capable of many things, not JUST a CMS. truly a top-choice. PLUS i do believe it's the only popular contender written in Vue? all the rest are React based.

Am currently tinkering with Keystatic. it's really nice. i love the UI/UX/DX 👍 config is easy to follow. am just having trouble getting my image paths correct.

Am super excited to make time soon to have a decent play with AstroDB, as I have used Turso in a few small projects. It looks like my Go To for many up and coming projects.

EXCELLENT WRITE UP!!!

restive zenith
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Never heard of sveltiaCMS but looks like a better variant then DecapCMS or staticCMS, will def look into it. Thank @vernal spoke !

naive pendant
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I just read the title and probably missed something, but

  • for very simple website that just need blogs and simple collections -> use files -> https://keystatic.com/
  • for more complex cases, where a db is needed -> https://payloadcms.com/ (but I tend to use next for this cases instead of astro)
Keystatic
Keystatic

Content management for your codebase.

Payload CMS
Payload: The fastest growing open-source headless CMS

Built with TypeScript and React, Payload is a headless CMS and application framework. Power anything.

fast schooner
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Anyone self hosted payload?

naive pendant
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you mean like on a vps, or serverless?

fast schooner
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Any way really just curious how it went if anyone has

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serverless would be awesome

naive pendant
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You can deploy in one click now with vercel

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Cloudflare doesn't seem to be well supported yet, hoping on the future

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Alongside turso hopefully

fast schooner
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thank you! How do images work with payload? Are you keeping them in the db ?

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I’ve been meaning to look more into payload and sveltia

naive pendant
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with the sample repo you create with the previous command, images are stored on https://vercel.com/docs/storage/vercel-blob
I think that by default are stored on the local file system and they are not tracked on the repo like it would happen on sveltia cms or keystatic, usually you probably want to use a plugin and save the images in same blob storage

Vercel Blob

Vercel Blob is a scalable, and cost-effective object storage service for static assets, such as images, videos, audio files, and more.

bold steppe
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@fast schooner if you want completely offline that works really well and is really simple

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PagesCMS works great with GitHub and because it actually writes to it, forces it to rebuild if you have that pipeline

fast schooner
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Nice I love git based CMS I’ll check it out

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right now I’m stuck between sveltia and decap sveltia because supports custom oauth and decap because its supports custom live preview

scenic bobcat
opaque sonnet
naive pendant
opaque sonnet
# naive pendant *beta

You're right, that changed recently. But I wouldn't use v3 for production in alpha or beta. The v2 release was a bit rough, so I'm staying in v2 until v3 is out of alpha/beta for several months.

restive zenith
shy herald
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I used Payload + Next.js in a medium-sized project, it never went live unfortunately. It has very good typescript support and defining models and the admin UI was straight forward. With server components, I primarily used Local API of payload, which means Rest API /GraphQL were not required. I only needed to use a Rest API to get the user session, since there were some problems, which I can't remember right now. I used server actions for any kind of POST submission, like image uploads or storing user data to MongoDB.
Payload also has fine-grained access and role management.

Just to give you an example how the local API looks like:

export default async function Slug({ params }: { params: { slug?: Page['slug'] } }) {
  const payload = await getPayloadClient()

  const { docs } = await payload.find({
    collection: 'pages',
    where: {
      slug: {
        equals: `/${params.slug ?? ''}`,
      },
    },
  })

  const page = docs?.[0] as Page

  if (!page) {
    return notFound()
  }

  return <.../>
}

Pretty straightforward 🙂

NOTE: Payload is "developer first", which means you have to do more work than usual, but you almost have full control of everything.

Now I have a simpler project + I love Astro. I wanted to try something more light-weight, that is easy to use for devs and non-devs. It should have low to no cost. And here I am, considering payload again 😄

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I really hope Astro StudioCMS will rock the shit out

restive zenith
shy herald
sweet spade
shy herald
high tangle
restive zenith
young light
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So, I've been searching around for a CMS that fits my needs, and after looking for quite a while, there surprisingly isn't one that ticks all the boxes for what I'd want (that fits my 'situation')

  1. stores entries as md/json/txt/etc
  • so as much as I actually like Directus and Payload, they exclusively use databases (I'm counting sqlite as not being on disk as content still is stored in a custom schema that from my experience is only usable from the CMS that created it)
  1. fully self hostable on a local machine or VPS
  • this actually excludes Tina and Decap, as those seem to only store entries on GitHub, their 'local' modes are only supposed to be used as dev environments
  1. serve a public REST or Graphql API so the content can be queried from other sites or apps
  • which doesn't seem to be one in Keystatic, readings its docs, its 'reader API' is only supposed to be used internally with other node frameworks, not querying from the browser or other servers
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Looking for quite a while (and trying a lot of stuff) there is only one that seems to fit all of these, which is Kirby. It actually looks pretty cool and malleable, and the devs seem pretty cool, in general seems nice

Only thing is that the 110$ for a license (per site that serves content from it) is quite a bit over my reach for a personal project, I totally would get a license if it was for using it on a commercial site

restive zenith
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@young light But Kirby's primary use case is not to be used as a headless CMS. It's a local CMS and you build around it, so most likely basic html, css and js with php. There is a plugin made from the community to transform Kirby into a headless CMS so that it works with Astro but it's not clean at all

restive zenith
young light
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I'm just wanting to be tied to as few third parties and subscriptions as possible for personal projects. Already learned quite some time ago the hard way that 'free tiers' are not them wanting to be nice, and the day they decide to end it when not enough of those are being converted to customers, either get the subscription to keep your vendor locked data, or lose it all

shy herald
shy herald
restive zenith
# young light I'm just wanting to be tied to as few third parties and subscriptions as possibl...

Their entire business model revolves around building a strong community and ecosystem. Removing the free tier would directly contradict that goal and alienate a large portion of their user base, ultimately harming their platform. In fact, if you look at the history of Sanity's free tier, it has actually become more generous over time. They've increased API request limits, document limits, and added more features accessible to free users.

restive zenith
restive zenith
shy herald
shy herald
high tangle
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Haha what kind of website are you building? I doubt it's going to go past the free tier

restive zenith
# shy herald <@251401289785802752> Did you ever had to pay extra using vercel/sanity free tie...

If you built SSG websites with astro and Sanity, Its going to be very hard to go past the free tier. In SSG, the only time it does a API request is when the site is built and this only happens when your clients are creating a new page/ make a change to a existing page or writing a blog post. And as I said, you have 250 000 API request per month for every project, so unless your clients writes tousands of blog posts every month you can exceed that.

The other limitations of Sanity are the Documents, so individual records in your CMS, so for example a page is one record. So 10k is also more than enough for every small to mdedium sized project. Of course I you wanna rebuild the apple website its going to be tight.

Then you have assets and bandwith at 100GB which speaks for itself.

And lastly "unique attributes" which is a tricky one but basically means "any unique combination of attribute and datatype". So if you're doing marketing websites for a clients with structure like a page builder, where they can create a page, choose the components they want on the page. Maybe have some authors or idk what you're never going to reach that many unique combinations of paths in your structure.

hope that helps 🙂

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I'll soon do 2 starter template, one with Astro and sanity where you have a simple marketing website (one language) with mulitple pages a bit like wordpress but better 😄 and the second template will be for people who need complete i18n with astro and sanity where everything if configurable directly in the CMS where you can also create new pages etc directly in the CMS

tulip osprey
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i really need to get your i18n issues fixed, i've had too much stuff to do

restive zenith
tulip osprey
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okay all good 👍

shy herald
# restive zenith If you built SSG websites with astro and Sanity, Its going to be very hard to go...

That sounds awesome and really makes me more confident with Sanity. The setup is just so simple, that only the cost could ruin it. But it seems to be more than fine.

If you are using SSG, how do you handle forms? Like adding an entry to sanity from astro frontend, like a feedback form.
Also how do you re-generate the SSG pages when a user does a change in sanity? Do you use webhooks in sanity to trigger a redeploy via vercel api?

shy herald
restive zenith
# shy herald That sounds awesome and really makes me more confident with Sanity. The setup is...

I actually never did that with Sanity, I use it only as a CMS, my clients receive new form submits in their inbox. But if you google it there are differents things you can do like using netlify forms and then sending the data from netlify to Sanity. Or just using Astro in hybrid mode and having the contact page or the page where the form is in SSR, makes it much easier.

As for rebuilding you're completely right, you just add a webhook to youre sanity project and it triggers a rebuild when you publish your content in Sanity

shy herald
restive zenith
shy herald
shy herald
# restive zenith Yeah let me know if you found something 🙂

I think the solution is quite simple. Just use output: "hybrid": and then use export const prerender = false on an Astro API route. The API route sends the request to sanity to create new entry with a secret key.
In the SSG page you can then either use form submissions via HTML or for more interactive/custom behaviour, use something like react-hook-form on a component with client:*

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Best of both worlds.

tranquil leaf
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I've gotta say at this stage I'm all in on keystatic for the content and astro db for the dynamic bits. The ui is super minimal, the content view puts the frontmatter to the side and the editor, which is highly customize and easy to extend via custom blocks (with optional live preview).

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Two things that would make it perfect are 1.) being able to register custom routes in the admin, where we could build natively feeling ui's that consume external data (like from astro db). Some use cases could be comments, contact messages, live chat, reservations, etc. 2.) better handling for multilingual content, which is something the team is already thinking about.

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Here's a preview of my keystatic setup and a proof of concept using astro db for the comments.

naive pendant
fast schooner
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🔥

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Ok Keystatic it is 🫡

spiral quarry
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I remember a while back while using Keystatic, I had issues with getting images under /src to work, as at the time, it only was able to serve images from /pubic.

Is that still the case?

fast schooner
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no it can use the astro optimization

shy herald
spiral quarry
shy herald
celest canyon
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I have been playing around with and slightly tweaking decap recently, I have been really liking it. I havent actually deployed anything yet but I think its the solution i am going to start using for non-technical clients.

fast schooner
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I love decap, I recently did give keystatic another shot and I wasn't huge fan of the field.slug forcing there to be an actual slug field and the collections view always having the slug visible

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the only issue I have with decap is you cant register remark plugins to the live preview and the mobile admin view isnt responsive ( which I think is being worked on )

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there probably is a way to set up remark plugins as a custom view component with react but I havent gotten that far into the weeds with it yet

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oh and the fact that you need to oauth via github but I've sort of got over that

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sort of... haha don't love that I have to make a github account for cilent and they need to set up 2fa etc

spiral quarry
fast schooner
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Same

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My dream is Astro dev server running in browser for mdx support and git based but who has the time haha

half ledge
digital valley
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I just need something that I can write Markdown blog articles in and can be deployed to Netlify lol

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Where I can still do the front end stuff in Astro

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I'm assuming for a blog I'd need a database but maybe not?

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Thoughts?

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I've never really used a CMS before so I just know what it stands for and is commonly used for blogs

fast schooner
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Pretty much all headless cms will cover that, to get started making the decision it’s good to know the difference between the two major categories

Git based and api based

Git based means it uses your GitHub repo as the “database” and makes PRs or commits when you add or edit content via the cms GUI

digital valley
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So if I push a new article the live site would auto update?

fast schooner
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Since you’re going for netlify you might be interested in decap which used to be called netlify CMS

digital valley
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I mean I'm used to that with Netlify already

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Where it deploys a new build anytime I push to a branch

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I like that convenience

digital valley
fast schooner
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Decap is pretty cool, the only major draw back right now is it doesn’t have a good mobile view

digital valley
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Aw

fast schooner
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so editing content on mobile will be painful if not impossible 😪

digital valley
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Oh idc about editing it on mobile

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Like on the go

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That's fine

modern tinsel
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Scroll up and read the thread. SmokeyFro has a good summary of many of the choices.

digital valley
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Oliver probably just convinced me with Decap

fast schooner
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lmk if you have any questions

digital valley
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Just those five steps then where do the markdown files go lol

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But that seems easy enough

fast schooner
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you’d use content collections

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And then the CMS interface will let you edit / add to the collections

digital valley
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That's amazing

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Just what I want

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Is there like a "theme store" somewhere by chance?

fast schooner
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For astro projects there’s https://astro.build/themes/ for decap it’s not very customizable but they are working on redoing the UI right now to add dark mode and mobile view and in general make it more pleasing

digital valley
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This seems decent enough

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If I use Decap I'd need a Decap theme and not solely an Astro theme I assume

fast schooner
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Any theme that uses content collections which I’m not sure 100% but I assume most do use content collections is fine

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That’s the benefit of git based cms

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They don’t require project structure specific to the cms api

digital valley
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Love it

tacit current
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I've been using Decap as well. I find it convenient and easy to use with Netlify.
@digital valley : that theme is running an old version of Astro. (v2.x). Currently, the only way to get Decap with Astro v.4x is to add the integration yourself thanks to the Astro docs Oliver posted earlier. I'm working on a template, but it's not quite ready just yet.
Do you need a client or 3rd party to be able to write content for your blog? If you are the only writer, you don't need a CMS and can use Astro's Content Collections only, FYI.

@fast schooner : you use Astro's content collection and its config.ts alongside Decap, right?
I still haven't found a way to use CMS-uploaded images in Astro's <Image /> and <Picture /> components, in spite of going through the docs. Is it even possible?

fast schooner
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In markdown posts the images are automatically optimized

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unless you’re using remote images

digital valley
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These

half ledge
tacit current
digital valley
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Oh oh that theme

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No worries I'll use whatever is default lol

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Or the blog starter I think it's called

digital valley
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This is for a security blog and this just feels...wrong lol

fast schooner
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hm yeah not sure what those vulnerabilities exactly are but I’d guess it’s sanitization of the input from the rich text editor, because it uses remark to turn the rich text into markdown

digital valley
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Is installing decap supposed to automatically add any folders or files?

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like /admin?

fast schooner
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Let’s make a new thread in #1019713903481081876

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@ me there if you don’t mind

digital valley
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Ya man

vernal spoke
# shy herald Do your clients have to have a github account to use the admin ui?

Keystatic cloud should take care of that. Haven't gotten there yet. Prop won't be using Keystatic for this project, as it needs to support authoring content in multiple languages, which KS isn't quite great at yet. Will prob be sticking with Directus for this one, but still going to be using KS for other projects where it makes sense (like the one in the above demo).

tacit current
subtle thistle
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hey not sure if anyone already said but - STRAPI is amazing and its fully javascript and free! I use it with Astro and its a great combo IMO 🙂

half ledge
fast niche
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I'm currently on cloudflare pages any CMS compatible for that?

fast schooner
sweet spade
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small note from experience... if you go with GhostCMS, don't use the @tryghost/content-api package with CF as it uses axios which won't work on the non-node Cloudflare runtime, instead use the @ts-ghost/content-api 🙂

fast niche
scenic bobcat
vernal spoke
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The samai zip is the site I demo'd, which is a bit further with the blocks. I'll prob publish them as an npm package once they are a bit more complete.

📎 samai-wip.zip
scenic bobcat
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Thanks!!

vernal spoke
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you're welcome 🙂 hope it helps.

vernal spoke
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@scenic bobcat was just thinking it would be cool to extract the blocks into a standalone package via an open repo that keystatic devs can contribute to build up a comprehensive library of blocks (with their framework-less astro counterparts), that can be imported as needed on a per project basis. I'll post a message on the keystatic discord to see if anyone else is interested. Let me know if this is something that interests you. Also ditto to any other keystatic fans reading this 😉

tacit current
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If anyone is interested in seeing Decap CMS in action, here's a template I built. Best used hosted on Netlify to take advantage of Netlify Identity.

digital valley
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I'm using it! I like it!

tacit current
fast kraken
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I'm giving keystatic a go... Is it exclusively for the dev mode?

vernal spoke
fast kraken
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how can I make it detect existing articles? Or is that not possible?

half ledge
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It will detect existing articles as long as they're in the place you configure in the keystatic config file

somber flare
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Wordpress

ocean sigil
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I'm surprised to see WordPress mentioned at all because during the meetup in Montreal there didn't seem to be any WordPressers around, plus PHP devs were roasted in a playful way.

I felt a bit uncomfortable as someone who learned to code WP themes in PHP but also has some understanding of React.

Anyway...If you use Astro with WordPress, WP Engine runs a discord for headless WordPress where they offer support for Astro/WordPress sites.

somber flare
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Headless Wordpress is fantastic, too much php + wordpress hate, it may be old but it's gold

fast schooner
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Are you talking about WordPress.com ? That's a good question. I don't know if it's offered there (Automattic is a private company that owns WordPress.com).

I'm more familiar with WordPress.org, self-hosted WordPress.

Kinsta, I believe, offers free hosting for static sites.

fast schooner
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I’m pretty unfamiliar with Wordpress, but thanks I’ll check those out

sweet spade
vernal spoke
ocean sigil
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On the free plan? Yes, of course you can use the WP REST-API.

I am not sure whether the free plan allows you to edit code. There are new features for developers now so maybe.

ocean sigil
fast schooner
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What’s the cost of WP engine? I can also look this up myself haha thanks for the insight

onyx geode
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hello everyone, I'm new here and I have read pretty much everything in this chat, I am starting a project with astro and I'm having a hard time deciding which cms to use, I decided to use sanity.io but I have no idea what the limitations are and what problems am I gonna encounter, I don't have the time to start with santiy and then switch to another cms option so I was hoping if anyone has used sanity with astro and can share their experience with me

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the project is pretty much a blog website btw

spiral quarry
# onyx geode hello everyone, I'm new here and I have read pretty much everything in this chat...

I guess to find the "right CMS for you" you have to determine WHY you need a CMS?! 🤔

for as long as I have been using Astro, I have been happy with just writing markdown files with ContentCollections and git push to update. Never really had the need for Astro DB, or any type of CMS.
but as I freelance more and more, that workflow can not be applied to my clients and other projects. So (personally) I need a CMS that a client can log into, make edits, updates, new entries, etc.
I have settled on Directus hosted on DigitalOcean via Coolify. Am still learning how to set everything up, but have used Directus in the past and while it might be overkill for a personal blog, having one "place" for my client logins is better suited for my needs.

So.
Why do you need a CMS?

I ask this question as I feel it would be a better way for others to best guide you 👍

onyx geode
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Thank you very much

onyx geode
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is anyone free? I deployed my astro site with netlify, it has tinacms integrated in it, I defined the environment variables in netlify and all that but for some reason I can access the admin page

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help please

fast schooner
onyx geode
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yeah sure sorry

sweet spade
onyx geode
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done, sorry I'm new here

sweet spade
pallid copper
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I've been in (and still am to an extent) the same boat as most of you saying "what's a good CMS to use with Astro that I can use in production for a client and I'm not going to waste hours on only to find out there's a limitation or something that means I have to look elsewhere".

I spent hours reviewing youtube videos, docs, reddit posts trying to decide which to go for. I decided on a short list of Cloud Cannon, Sanity and Payload. I liked the look of Keystatic but the github says "status: We're working on it! Things are experimental at the moment." which makes me nervous about using for a client. I want something that's pretty well established.

I decided on Sanity for my latest project and while it has taken me ages to get it set-up, I have been pleasantly surprised. I think the pricing model is perfect. I think you're unlikely to require more than the free tier, but if you do, the next level up is $15 per user I think, which I mean, you should be able to pay if you require that level.

The important thing for me has been visual editing (WYSIWYG) and I've managed to set this up with Sanity. You can preview the site inside Sanity and as you hover over elements on the page you can click a little button that says 'edit in studio' and it takes you directly to where that piece of content is managed in the CMS. When you edit it, it takes maybe 1 second to reload the preview with your updates (I think it waits for you to finish typing). It does require the site to be SSR, though I'm currently working on having an SSR version of the site for previews and a SSG version for the live site to make it super fast and minimal when accessed publicly.
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I like that Sanity is hosted for you (even on the free tier) but you can self-host I think. And it has a pretty cool image thing baked-in so your client can chose a crop/focal point in every situation that an image is used. It can do webp but not avif. I'd like to still process images through Astro but haven't figured that out yet. And I don't have forms figured out yet but from what I understand, you can do a form in the normal way on Astro (post the data to a SSR api route to dynamically do something with the submitted data) and then you can post that data into Sanity, so you can use it as a database of form submissions.

If you're new to headless CMS, it's pretty cool. Setting up the CMS to match your client's requirements exactly is refreshing after working on sites where you're having to bolt stuff on or manipulate what's there just to get it to work for your project. It does take time on your first go though, but once you've set-up a few things, you can copy and paste them into your next project.

I will use Sanity again for my next project but I'm still open to others. I have used Cloud Cannon for a project which was a little fiddly to set-up but you can have visual editing even with a static site and they have really good support (if you're a partner and will be building multiple sites with them). I don't think there's a free tier though from memory, and I don't like the UI of the CMS.

fast schooner
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Thanks for the detailed reviews, what was your take on payload? Or did sanity just check all the boxes before you got there

naive pendant
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the thing with payload (3) is that if you want to use astro you either use a monorepo, with problems on deployments or you need to create 2 different projects with problem on types and dev experience

restive zenith
pallid copper
restive zenith
spiral quarry
# restive zenith The problem I have with directus and payload is that you need to setup a databas...

I recently set up Directus on a DigitalOcean droplet (without docker), and have it connect to Supabase.
I have lots more to learn about Directus, but I have seen some setups on their Discord and YouTube series, where I can have multiple clients log in and make their own edits/updates/etc.

Previous attempts at using DigitalOcean with Directus have resulted in fees over $40 per month. I don't have enough clients to justify that (yet).
So I kinda thought having the Directus "dashboard" decoupled from the database, would keep that bill from increasing as much?! 🤔
MAYBE someone else with more experience here can comment on that?!
As I am still learning best practices, etc. for my new CMS, I have a locally hosted SQLite running, so I can figure out the flow of things. Build my collections and stuff, then export local to remote.
Well. Just a theory/hypothetical.

This is the repo I got my starter from https://github.com/yohita/directus-project-with-extensions-quickstart

GitHub
GitHub - yohita/directus-project-with-extensions-quickstart: Direct...

Directus NodeJS Project with Extensions Quickstart - yohita/directus-project-with-extensions-quickstart

scenic bobcat
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If we use Keystatic - we will lose normal i18n support. If we choose Decap/Svelta CMS - we will also lose MDX support. The developers of both projects are currently not working on adding these features bruh

naive pendant
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For real tho 😅

modern tinsel
woeful mantle
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Waqtail cms anyone used this ? its Django based

naive pendant
rose geyser
# pallid copper ... I like that Sanity is hosted for you (even on the free tier) but you can sel...

Hey, I'm relatively new to Astro and new to headless CMS API.

I was curious, with Sanity, can you still generate static files at build time (and automatic deployment to Netlify or Vercel) ,or is SSR a requirement?

I would only be creating basic websites for small businesses but it would be great if I could allow them to add new posts, recent work/projects and maybe a few other custom fields.

TIA

fast schooner
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yes you can use sanity to make a static site

rose geyser
fast schooner
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what might be a little complicated but not too bad is setting up a webhook to rebuild your site when the content changes

rose geyser
pallid copper
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FWIW I have an SSR instance of the Astro site in sanity which allows my clients to see previews of their edits, and a ‘DEPLOY’ button in sanity for when they’re ready to publish their changes to the static site (the one that’s live).

high tangle
rancid smelt
rancid smelt
# bold steppe I mean

Are you on a paid plan or does the free work out most things? Why're they all priced so expensively? Are people really buying these things?

bold steppe
pallid copper
ashen anchor
bold steppe
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directus has it

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google Astro Directus integration

digital valley
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Is there a CMS that will let you post a post at a certain date?

ashen anchor
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Scheduled posts? Strapi has it

digital valley
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Strapi looks nice. Just would need to redo my entire site to use Strapi to return the posts

fast schooner
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Hahah

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Relatable

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Strapi > directus imo but Strapi is more painful to customize

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Directus custom elements are pretty sweet honestly

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I just didn’t love the Strapi onboarding process they make users go through

ashen anchor
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I got back and forth with Strapi. I deployed a Strapi instance to Fly.io last month and this morning woke up to a receipt for $55 from the Strapi instance I deployed and never actually used.

fast schooner
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Wow

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I have a very idle directus in railway that hasn’t gotten me out of their free 5$/month usage tier yet

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not sure what would happen if it started being used though

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the fact that directus stores images instead of putting them in a bucket is a pain to me

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Boosts the usage a ton

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55 for idle is insane though

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I had a Strapi on railway for a while too idle and didn’t get me out of the 5$ free but I literally didn’t use it at all had no content I. It I just tried it and forgot about it

ashen anchor
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I had a wordpress instance on Railway and moved it to AWS because I needed to be able to manage the memory better

fast schooner
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Yeah EC2 is really the play at the end of the day I think

fast kraken
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So it's not built for astro, it's built for Jekyll, but there's a one that's in development called Hyde. It's self hosted and works fairly simply, by basically keeping a copy of the repository in itself, and you configure where the markdown files are. It's git-based and uses discord oauth to login.

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In theory, it should work for Astro, however I have not tested it yet).

hybrid onyx
half ledge
# rancid smelt I unnderstand it maps well to content collections, but what does it look like to...

It's not perfect. My wife uses it for her site and every once in a while she'll have an issue I need to fix. It doesn't handle image renaming on its own so you could overwrite images or provide badly named ones that will cause issues. It also shows the branch which is weird for marketers. It'd be fine for a team I imagine as its pretty easy to explain how it works and what not to do. But it doesn't have built in settings to disable the branch feature for instance.

While editing normal posts and content it's pretty easy though! Custom components work well and it works with MDX nicely

crimson jacinth
high tangle
half ledge
ashen anchor
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Does anyone have experience with Keystone and Astro?

tacit current
grand tapir
scenic bobcat
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is anyone planning to create a content loader for directus by any chance?

dapper crow
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I have, but it's just hacked together for now

teal heath
dapper crow
teal heath
teal heath
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Oops. Unfortunately, you can't actually use D1. D1 is (currently) only accessible via Workers.

dapper crow
# teal heath So you don't have to manage a database.

a default postgres/sqlite/mongo/whatever can take you a very long way, the day it starts stuttering you're probably big enough to manage whatever you need of it hahaha
managed db is really expensive for no good reason

tidal surge
distant pagoda
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@half ledge Hi there, I've been far from astro for a while, but I remember that you were dealing with similar stuff and I am wondering if you found a good cms for astro? With a use of Astro's image/picture component

half ledge
distant pagoda
ashen anchor
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Best CMS for Astro

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[Mega-Thread] - Best CMS for Astro 🚀

full grove
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I’ve been enjoyin Pocketbase

ashen anchor
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Pocketbase is nice.

odd basin
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I've been interested in Keystatic, waiting for them to hopefully set up a method for translating an Astro zod schema into the format Keystatic uses, which apparently they're working on

short kraken
noble citrus
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All these options are nice, but unfortunately a really great CMS is not defined by its technological maturity, but by the willingness of the community to start using it massively.

fast schooner
rancid smelt
merry orchid
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Glad this question of mine helps a lot of people. Thank you all for helping out!

noble citrus
timber sinew
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It all comes down to "right tool for the job"

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in my case, I need a good page builder.. I don't think keystatic has that, but Tina has something I can use that's decent... (don't even get me started on wordpress)

rancid smelt
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I am using the weridest one of the above

google docs i run a script that turns my docs to md and update my starlight files and my site builds ... i used this method cuz i didn't want to worry about collaboration later on

wicked matrix
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I am in love with Directus. Especially for managing translations for the content

fast schooner
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Yeah directus custom input components make it really nice as well

tulip osprey
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I remember coding one for iconify icons, was pretty neat

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The dx for that specifically was not super good tho

fluid grotto
# silent umbra Little late to the party here but my suggestion is anything ***git based*** (Tin...

Also thinking about something git-based, easy to configure and with a free plan available. My project is pretty small and I just need the possibility to edit content with something no-code friendly for the client. The site will be updated max. 3 times per year so nothing fancy needed really. I am on Netlify hosting and GH for storing the files. Maybe some integration for the new content layer feature? Thank in advance for any help.

Update: Keystatic looks pretty cool.

tacit current
fluid grotto
tacit current
fluid grotto
distant pagoda
fluid grotto
tacit current
rancid smelt
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in my opinion ^^

tacit current
# rancid smelt Keystatic on paper does the same as Decap, but a nicer ui.

Your post made me curious, so I checked out Keystatic. Spun up a test project with their CLI, and wow, that's really impressive!

  • The UI is indeed nicer, adding images is a breeze (and they're even optimized in markdown out of the box!).
  • The YS config file is superior to .yaml in my opinion.
  • The docs are clean, but a fair bit of video tutorials.
  • The CLI makes setup a breeze, with a admin server ready to go out of the box.

From this short test, I can see a few downsides (compared to Decap):

  1. Giving CMS access to a client: they have to create/use a GH account; this can be alleviated by signing up for Keystatic Cloud as far as I understand. Funnily enough, they don't really push / market their cloud solution. Apart from that, it looks like giving access to a client seems super easy and safe: just add them as a GH contributor. No password, no Netlify Identity.
  2. Can't upload files other than images (e.g. no PDFs), even with Keystatic Cloud, unless I'm mistaken.
  3. No preview mode, at least for Astro? They have a tutorial for Next.js though.

I haven't dug deep into the tests, nor deployed the project, but it looks super cool.

rancid smelt
# tacit current Your post made me curious, so I checked out Keystatic. Spun up a test project wi...

Yes, very easily set up and configurable. Extensive and clear documentation. I do see where you come from.

GitHub is superior to their own cloud solution, but cloud works for logging in with username and password, although they do recommend the use of Passkeys.
Yeah, I believe there aren't any preview modes (yet).
Unsure about the file part, haven't found any need for it, but https://keystatic.com/docs/fields/file isn't what you look for?

File field

The file field is used to store a file.

short kraken
# tacit current Your post made me curious, so I checked out Keystatic. Spun up a test project wi...

Yeah there's a lot of parts of keystatic that they really got right. The simplicity and type safety. If you could get by on the cloud solution the onboarding was really easy. I still have it on a couple of sites

Some downsides I found throughout my time using it:

  • no visual editing
  • asset handling could be better. I had editors breaking entire site builds because the image they uploaded had a space in it.
  • harder to setup across frameworks (not agnostic)

Tina CMS has been my favorite so far. It has a lot of the same concepts of keystatic, and the visual editing is easy to add to existing content. I can continue to keep the same developer workflow in and choose what I want to be visually editable from code with a data attribute.

Now it's not as customizable for editors out of the box as something like Builder.io (or WebStudio). I've noticed the more you want visual editors to be able to make changes to the structure (e.g styling, adding dom nodes, etc.) the less your codebase tends to own the code, and the more it gets abstracted away. Migrating from these types of solutions is much more difficult

tacit current
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Thanks both for the extra info!
Reading the docs on GitHub mode for Keystatic, onboarding a client to Keystatic involves giving them read, write and PR access. If the repo is private, is there any risk of the client modifying others sections of the codebase or forking the whole project?

ashen anchor
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That could be a possibility.

fast schooner
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Yeah maybe could do some sub module business I’m not sure though

ashen anchor
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Honestly what I do. I have my client make a GitHub account and the repo. And then just give me read/write access to
It. Then they own
Their code.

brazen pond
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My startup doesn't care about the price of a CMS, I just want something that's flexible, and allows a marketer to manage the site content for a time without the need for a developer. Currently looking at Storyblok and Sanity. Can anyone vouch for either of these to work well with Astro?

fast schooner
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I’d go with storyblok for the premium experience

brazen pond
fast schooner
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I’m not sure honestly, I haven’t worked with stiryblok I just know they create a really premium CMS user experience

brazen pond
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I've heard that too haha. Will do some further investigation between the two

ashen anchor
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Has anyone gotten Keystatic working with Github Mode?

ashen anchor
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I got it working locally. But when I push it live. Im getting a 500 error on Cloudflare Pages. Gonna try Vercel.

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Works on Vercel. but not Cloudflare Pages.. interesting..

fast schooner
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Probably due to environmental variables

ashen anchor
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I added them on both. Does Cloudflare Pages access them differently?

fast schooner
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Yeah

ashen anchor
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Yup its that. Found the logs for it.

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@fast schooner Do you happen to know how Cloudflare Pages access Environment Variables?

fast schooner
regal field
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I am not sure if I should write this here or create another support chat. but since it is a bit related to cms, so I choose to write it here.

Context:
I'm relatively new to Node.js and Starlight, and I would say I have a beginner understanding about code editor tools and building a dynamic web app. I’m exploring ways to enable a WYSIWYG editor for Astro Starlight content like MDX and Markdoc, similar to Obsidian.

Goal:
I want to provide an easy-to-use interface for both non-technical users and myself to edit content in Starlight with inline previews including MDX syntax, markdoc and component made in the starlight project.
I am also approaching this in aspect of providing a "wiki resource" to demonstrate and explain interactively on mathematic, physic and cs (similar to Brilliant website or including geogebra/desmos usage).

Current Approach:
I'm working on creating a VSCode workspace configuration that I can include in the repository. When opened in VSCode, users would get a baseline setup, allowing easy editing and previews.

Questions:

Are there existing WYSIWYG tools that support:

  • Efficient macros for MDX content and can render component inline (like obsidian)?
  • plotting, including 3D visualizations?
  • visualisation and diagrams? (I think mermaid could be a solution, but I am also thinking about LaTex's Tikz package as I wrote this)
  • embedded animations from code, similar to 3Blue1Brown's Manim?
  • LaTeX macros, similar to Obsidian's LaTeX suite example ?
  • Customizable keybindings (e.g., Vim motions)?
  • Easy image uploads (e.g., auto-upload to Imgur on paste)?
regal field
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I found the VSCode Markdown Editor, which seems promising, but:

  • I’m unsure how to set keybindings for it.
  • no latex shortcut like in example
  • doesn't render mdx and component stuff. (I am assuming that this require setting up a server of some sort to render, right?)

Alternative Solutions:
Is there a better way to achieve this outside of VSCode? I’m open to building a custom tool if necessary, but I have limited knowledge and time(studying for my entrance exam to uni) to create such a solution and would appreciate any guidance outline.

This is an example of typical use case. I would also like to use other component and feature of starlight mdx as well but as of now I have not tried implementing all of them yet. The image would be what I would like to see the WYSIWYG look like. There are also more nuance detail I would like it to have but for now...

---
title: Test space
---
$$
\begin{align}
 & \hat{r}\triangleq\begin{pmatrix}\cos \theta \\ \sin \theta\end{pmatrix} \> \quad \hat{t}\triangleq \begin{pmatrix}-\sin \theta \\ \cos \theta \end{pmatrix} \\ \\
\text{notice}:\quad & \dot{\hat{r}} = \omega\overbrace {\begin{pmatrix}-\sin \theta \\ \cos \theta \end{pmatrix}}^{\hat{t}} \quad \dot{\hat{t}}=\omega\overbrace{\begin{pmatrix}-\cos \theta \\ -\sin \theta \end{pmatrix}}^{-\hat{r}}\\ \\
\Rightarrow \quad & \vec{s}  \triangleq r\hat{r} \\
 & \vec{v} =\omega r \hat{t} \\
 & \vec{a}= -\omega^{2}r\hat{r} +\alpha r\hat{t} \\ \\
\therefore \quad  & s =r \quad v=\omega r \quad a_{r} = \omega^{2}r \quad a_{t} = \alpha r
\end{align}
$$
___
$$
\begin{align}
 & \alpha = 0 , \ a_{t}=0 & \Rightarrow   & \quad  v = k   & \quad \text{uniform}\\
 & \alpha = k , \ a_{t}=k & \Rightarrow  & \quad  v = u + (\alpha r)t &  \quad  \text{non-uniform} \\
 & \text{otherwise} & \Rightarrow  & \quad v = v_{i} + \int (\alpha r) \ dt  & \quad \text{non-uniform}
\end{align}
$$
``python
print("test")
``
fast schooner
# regal field

Probably better topic for a #1019713903481081876 like you said but vscode as a cms is interesting idea

ashen anchor
olive terrace
graceful crest
ashen anchor
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I do wish with Keystatic I could just use my Astro Content Collections Config though. Be great.

odd basin
true bloom
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KeyStatic is pretty cool, using it for some of the smaller sites, but I needed something for larger sites w/ thousands of articles + shareable from a db / api if need be. Thought I'd share this one:

https://studiocms.xyz/

StudioCMS

A dedicated CMS for Astro DB.

ashen anchor
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Anyone here using Keystatic?

timber sinew
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Anyone know of a page builder CMS (IE not headless but hopefully also has headless capabilities) that's astro compatible that ISN'T TinaCMS?

ashen anchor
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See message above mine

sage isle
brazen pond
ashen anchor
# sage isle Me! Been an OK experience

Im trying to use the Mark UI Logo thing. But if I change to keystatic.config.tsx it wont load my config. Restarted my server but still wont load it. Have you come across it?

sage isle
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Doesn't sound familiar I'm afraid

ashen anchor
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Hmm. Okay. Ill look around more. Thanks!

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Fixed it. If anyone else comes across the issue. Delete node_modules and reinstall

timber sinew
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TinaCMS would be exactly what I need/want if it weren't for this stupid issue around client directives..

short kraken
timber sinew
modern tinsel
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@deft latch Keystatic getting lots of mentions here lately... 😎

ashen anchor
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Keystatic is okay so far. But I hate that I cant make fields read only

tulip osprey
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What I disliked was the lack of customization of images paths

ashen anchor
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What do you mean?

tulip osprey
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for example i migrated a wordpress app to astro a year ago, so i was quite constrained by the structure given the amount of files

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and keystatic did not allow me to map it correctly

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I think that's the only thing I dislike, all the rest is great, especially since they added mdx support in January

ashen anchor
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But of cousse I cant find how draftMode works in the NextJs code yet

tulip osprey
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I don't think there's such a concept in Astro atm

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I think there's a roadmap proposal for it

honest ember
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From what I've seen, Sveltia or something like Keystatic are somewhat neat solutions. However, I think that it would be good for some CMS to have integration with Astro and boilerplate templates for blog and classic cms. That way, it could show the the custom fields and other features from where others could build upon. There is something like that in keystatic, but it is cumbersome to figure it out, without any examples.

ashen anchor
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So I want to like Sanity. But I do not understand their Groq query stuff

spiral quarry
plush plume
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Using strapi one of the few you can selfhost

restive zenith
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Guys, I'm coming back after having built some websites with Sanity and I can tell you, Sanity is the real deal. Super easy to setup you can hook it up in like 2 minutes, you have visual editing, it's just the best in my opinion after having tested building websites with storyblok, directus and keystatic

ashen anchor
tame oak
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I might've missed it scrolling through all of this but has anyone tried Astro with Contenful? I've used it for a simple blog with React a long time ago and saw that it had an integration with Astro. I'm working on making some templates for freelancing and am wondering what would be the best option for a client to be able to make simple text updates through whichever respective CMS dashboard. I'm not sure how viable this is but I'm thinking of having any sort of copy on the site be fetched from a cms, if that's possible, so if a client needs to update copy in some way they can without a code change.

ashen anchor
tame oak
# ashen anchor I have a site using Contentful with Astro!

Nice! I'd love to see it if you're able to share it. How was developing with it? I'm not the best at reading docs and it's been years since I used Contentful with React so I'm not sure if this will be a smooth integration or not lol.

ashen anchor
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I use it for SSG. I’ll be honest. It’s been a bit since I implemented it. But we can talk more tomorrow.

tame oak
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Sounds good. Have a good rest of your night.

spiral quarry
rancid smelt
# restive zenith Guys, I'm coming back after having built some websites with Sanity and I can tel...

I beg to disagree, though. I tried Sanity once and I'm vowed to never return to it. It feels like managing two systems and then I couldn't deal with grok/graphql, where everything feels manual and hand-pulled... then the editor interface just lacked that spark... this was ~2 years ago, so don't know about now, but doubt it was for me, because if you rae about it, then it's probably my own issues 🤷🏻‍♂️ in my experience with CMS, I feel at this time there's no solution still... only one coming close is Storyblok - it gets almost everything right, except for a few, which the team seems open to improve and it's way way friendlier with Astro... now pricing of CMS is another talk - they're all expensive dunno why...

sweet spade
# rancid smelt I beg to disagree, though. I tried Sanity once and I'm vowed to never return to ...

they're all expensive dunno why...

Another reason StudioCMS is 100% free and open source and just a fancy Astro integration. So costs come down to your database(if you go with a provider over a self-hosted libSQL) and server host (For the actual API/SSR Routes). In the future we might do some sort of Hosted solution, or even a enterprise SLA system, but for now... our focus is just getting up and going and create a stable and useable CMS for all.

We have a huge project going (PR #333) right now that will not only just upgrade the look of our UI, but help really get us ready for production usage!

winged inlet
#

https://hashnode.com/

Hashnode
Hashnode

Hashnode is a free developer blogging platform that allows you to publish articles on your own domain and helps you stay connected with a global developer community.

pallid copper
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Has anyone used Prismic or DatoCMS?

spiral quarry
#

Question for the more advanced CMS users:

Having worked with Astro for a few years, I absolutely love my simple stack, and I'm looking for a headless CMS that I can add to my "workflow".

REQUIREMENTS:

  • self-host-able, so I can install and fully run locally as well as install and run on my VPS (Hetzner) with Coolify
  • postgres preferred with mongodb as a close second
  • i need an "out of the box" experience, I don't want to have to install a bunch of plugins/extensions for common CMS uses
  • cloudinary integration

I have locally installed supabaseCLI, postgres, and mongodb.
Ideally, I would like to build my project/projects locally, tune, tweak, etc. and then put it online.
So export/dump database locally and sync (somehow) on my VPS.
I know there's Kysely, Drizzle and other ORMs to simplify the process - I have yet to really learn those.

And possibly the most important - I think it's called "multitenancy"?
As a freelance web developer, I have a variety of clients. Currently, I make edits and git push (Astro SSG) + Netlify.
In the future, I would like to grant access to my clients to log in to a secure CMS backend and have access to their website structure. This CMS backend would be used by my clients, each with their own roles and permissions to modify/update/edit their own structured content.

I think Directus and PayloadCMS fit the bill for much of the above, and there is Sanity, Strapi, Storyblok, and so many others.
Just wanna hear some opinions based on my needs 👍

ripe verge
restive zenith
#

for people who want to dig into sanity I found this yt video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSZCajClrA

YouTube
Jordan @ Island Web Design
Sanity & Astro Visual Editor Tutorial - Build Click To Edit Website...

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▶ Play video
mental saffron
# pallid copper Has anyone used Prismic or DatoCMS?

Prismic is a no go for me because it doesn’t have the notion of « required fields » (last time I checked) which can lead to build errors when using SSG.

I’ve only tested Dato CMS on my free time (ie not professionally) and it’s hands down the best CMS I’ve used so far but the free tier is not generous and the entry plan is on the expensive side.

wintry dock
#

I've been playing with decap cms + github auth + cloudflare pages in last couple days. a little bit hacky to get everything to work but i'm satisfied with the result. currently i'm trying to integrate decap cms with the "astrowind" template and i think i can share the code in the next few days.

for a little bit more context: decap cms is a git based headless cms where you can bring your own authentication provider (netlify or github). decap cms generate markdown file where you can use them as content collections. each change to a document (in decap cms) will push to the branch you specified. after that cloudflare builds a new static site and deploys it.

spiral quarry
rancid smelt
#

i used a cloudflare worker script and had an admin folder in my website so when i visit /admin/ it loads the CMS

#

and only contributors can login

#

it was a static website hosted on github pages and cloudflare workers have 100k requests per day and i wasn't reaching 100 even with testing the cms

#

but now i discovered that something like google docs with the realtime collaboration feature is really nice

so i setup github action that takes google docs files from their link and turns them into markdown files and put them in the right subfolders

then i used them like i use markdown (or mdx)

#

this way the people who don't know how to code can use google docs like they normal do and update their websites for example

spiral quarry
rancid smelt
#

i litterally told it to so many people and their reactions was "meh"

#

nobody relised the power...Gdocs is one of the best text collaboration software making it run smoothly with astro is good

rancid smelt
#

i forked the npm package so i can have custom behavior for the markdown frontmatter

#

also i think MDX is not editor friendly for non programmers so i have sed script that changes these

#question what is your fav color?
red

blue correct 

purple

#question end

to this

<Question>

.....

</Question>
spiral quarry
fast schooner
rancid smelt
#

everytime u make a change you need to rebuild the site

rancid smelt
rancid smelt
#

Anything explored or used Notion (as CMS) with Astro? (Then again, with Content Layer, seems like nirvana on the way?)

rancid smelt
fast schooner
#

Does notion have a way to enforce a “template” ?

wide nest
tulip osprey
#

We're kind of using Notion as a cms at work, but with some extra layers. We do not use the content layer yet:

  • Right now, we have a github workflow we can trigger manually that pulls data from notion, converts it to json inside data collections and creates a PR. Pretty manual and being a dev is required
  • We plan to make those parts into an internal small cms. People would still edit content in notion, but manage where to push this data (eg. staging/prod). That would still do github stuff under the hood but merge PRs if they pass automatically etc
#

In our case, we only need to add some data once a week and there's a need for a manual action, so it's not just using notion as a cms

topaz eagle
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Tested a few. Now I use directus for all my customers. I don't know if there's a best choice but this one just is perfect. I used strapi but their mobile responsiveness is absolute nightmare and they clearly said that that was not desirable so....

brazen pond
#

Has anyone here managed to get Sanity to work with visual editing on hybrid mode in Astro?

scenic bobcat
sleek acorn
topaz eagle
#

That's when you tell directus that no post must have same slug. I don't know, I maybe surrounded bu world experts and have no knowledge but this is just data management in a database with slug being a data that you would enforce of being unique. And for using directus, that is totally possible 😅

spiral quarry
hard mountain
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Obviously. .md / .mdx

crisp narwhal
#

I have used Directus for many projects, and love it

spiral quarry
# crisp narwhal I have used Directus for many projects, and love it

I too have used Directus for many things.
Mostly localhost projects, as I had issues getting it properly installed on DigitalOcean without racking up a crazy monthly bill.

I've recently got it running (finally) on Hetzner under Coolify!!!
It was the easiest thing. Even got Umami for stats/analytics/tracking.

Came out to about $15 per month.

If ya never tried Coolify, give it a shot - I'm sure you'd like it.

odd basin
pallid copper
brazen pond
scenic bobcat
pallid copper
brazen pond
#

Would anyone be interested in a Astro-first supported CMS?

#

Like what features would you expect with a headless Astro-first CMS, looking to gauge the audience interested

rancid smelt
#

Isn't that already happening with StudioCMS, @ashen valve ?

#

I should really do a "CMS Manifesto"! I hope we build one that does all it's supposed to do, and well

ashen valve
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Indeed!

rancid smelt
ashen valve
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I have not, ill give it a read 😄

brazen pond
#

Oh sweet thanks!

half lance
#

I used astro(node-ssr) + pocketbase to build 25 news websites.
I am running all sites on single $10 ARM64 server and combined traffic is almost 200k page views in 24 hours.
I used varnish and cloudflare cache and have my own cache clear mechanism.
I am running 2 instances of astro and each of them having 10-11 sites. Single astro instance is able to check the domain and return the desired post of that domain.
Right now I have just 1 layout and I am going to add 4-6 more layouts to it.

Currently each website is using default pocketbase dashboard for CRUD. I want to build a separate dashboard for it. If you are interested in building dashboard then I can share my CMS with you.

rancid smelt
#

Wait, Pocketbase as CMS? And you're able to do relationships and other reference stuff? And individual users sign in and update content in a friendly ui?

half lance
# rancid smelt Wait, Pocketbase as CMS? And you're able to do relationships and other reference...

I am on my way to build that with pocketbase. I made a separate dashboard to manage pocketbase content. I just have to create users and individual users can login and see what content they are allowed to edit and create.
People underestimate pocketbase.
I have 2 pocketbase instance. One has 65k news posts and other has 53k news posts.
I can easily do relationships and manage permissions. Single pocketbase instance has 10-11 domains. So each domain owner will only get to see posts that belongs to his domain and can never see posts of other domains and each user belongs to specific domain.
I am not good at building UI but I know how to do backend stuff. That's why I just buy templates and implement them in astro.

I just need someone to do dashboard for me. A good one.
I might think to open source my entire CMS with a single layout and entire pocketbase configuration.

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rancid smelt
spiral quarry
spiral quarry
ashen anchor
#

That would be awesome if you could Open source it!

half lance
#

@rancid smelt @spiral quarry @ashen anchor
I will do that pretty soon. I have DMed you guys regarding this.

tidal surge
scenic bobcat
rancid smelt
#

I looked at all of them, and because I would just use it to generate new blog posts, I decided it wasn't worth the hassle, and complexity- astro 5 for example has a ton of new things in it and how they handle images for example.

distant pagoda
rancid smelt
rancid smelt
# brazen pond Like what features would you expect with a headless Astro-first CMS, looking to ...

this week i have been experimenting with partykit and tiptap editor

and it might be the best experinced i had with realtime editing also you can host the collaboration server on glitch

i am making a collaborative team mangement server and i love the idea that the user uses the web app to connect to a server he hosts to sync stuff

also one big beneifet of using this is that you can use yjs to save the text file to indexdb then sync the changes and merge your offline changes with the updated ones automatically

spiral quarry
rancid smelt
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Damn

frank trench
valid swan
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Any Drupal integrations yet?

random anchor
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Sanity CMS still best choice for me as easy to use CMS.

btw Astro is developing own CMS? or I read it wrong above?

spiral quarry
random anchor
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Thanks, I will check

fast schooner
sweet spade
spiral quarry
sage isle
#

soon™️

sweet spade
sage isle
rancid smelt
#

And just like that soon is trademarked, so we might go with "very soon" or better still "very very soon"

sage isle
#

Before people get the wrong idea. We'll need time

#

It's not a thing that'll be done in a week or two

rancid smelt
#

Got it, should be worth the wait

short crescent
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I still got my eye on Directus or Payload (now that v3 is out of beta). I'm mostly interested in something I could hand off to non-technical writers/journalists to use on their own, which drastically limits the options...

cold fern
#

frontmatter.codes

rancid smelt
cold fern
brazen pond
spiral quarry
# brazen pond I gave Payload an honest shot multiple times, and did not enjoy it personally. I...

i really wanted to like PayloadCMS.
all their youtube videos and this resourceful site https://allaboutpayload.com/ made it seem like it's the best thing since sliced bread 🤔

but i just couldnt get my content to render properly without deeper and deeping into queries what would only work with one collection and not others.
maybe it's my unfamiliarity with it. but i was very successful when using Next along side it 👍
it is indeed a great way to structure a site and I really did start liking it with Next ... but as for my Astro projects? I'm sticking with Directus if I ever need SSR.

All About Payload

Your hub for all things Payload

topaz kiln
#

I'm using payload now, as a surprise it works quite well. It's free, customizable to the fullest, for now I'm really satisfied with it. The only thing that confuses me is, why should I use content collections for querying collections from payload, while they provide an API for that?

brazen pond
#

Hey all! I'm starting a discussion on pain points that people from the Astro community have faced when implementing a CMS into their projects. The goal of this is to scope out what is lacking or what's doing really well in the CMS landscape today. I'm really interested in hearing from the Astro community specifically. https://github.com/orgs/luxeCMS/discussions/62

rancid smelt
sleek acorn
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@short crescent is there anything interesting added in v3?

cold fern
#

this is literally everything i want

#

i don't want a CMS that has all this fancy stuff. I just want it to read my astro config automatically without me having to do anything else and be compatible with markdown / mdx so i can have a visual live preview

#
  • nice ui
cold fern
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nah even front matter is too complicated. im going back to neovim

high tangle
#

what about headless CMSes for e-commerce? Yall have any reccomendations?

#

And does Astro fit for e-commerce sites? if that's not the case, that's ok i'll just use Nuxt I guess

tulip osprey
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Astro is definitely a good fit for e-commerce

#

I've been looking at Medusa.js for a while, looks powerful

spiral quarry
timid solstice
ashen anchor
brazen pond
#

Medusa is great for when you feel restricted with your existing e-commerce platform, as you can make it what you want. But it does require a lot of skill and knowledge on how things are done in that project

rancid smelt
open hazel
open hazel
rancid smelt
open hazel
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No, react-slate

rancid smelt
# open hazel No, react-slate

i think tiptap (based on prosemirror) is the best at handling the most amount of chars while being useable

also i didn't know github can add plugins for editing like that

open hazel
#

It's a chrome extension not a GitHub plugin

rancid smelt
#

makes sense didn't know it was possible

#

Wait you gave me a crazy AF idea ....oh man

open hazel
#

Yup it took me a hell of a lot of time to come up with this

rancid smelt
#

you can link this editor to a WebRTC server and have realtime collaboration support

#

this is so cool

open hazel
#

here is the link to the product

https://gitcms.blog

GitCMS

GitCMS is a Git-based CMS for Static Site Generators. It is a headless CMS that stores your content in a Git repository. It is a single source of truth for your content and a powerful tool for collaboration and version control.

#

Currently landing page is still under construction and chrome extension is under review by chrome webstore team

#

Hoping to get paas review by this weekend 😁

open hazel
rancid smelt
#

i am not sure its possible or not but if you can connect to a websocket server from chrome extension it would work

open hazel
#

I mean why is the need, you can edit and update in GitHubs UI and your CI-CD pipeline redeploys your sites.
Everything sorted for scale of large static site

rancid smelt
open hazel
#

Hmm, i have that feature in the pipeline but I'm not sure whether the user needs it that much

rancid smelt
open hazel
#

Yup i know it's easy but not needed, I'll think according to the feature requests

rancid smelt
#

this is the webrtc example save it for later

rancid smelt
open hazel
rancid smelt
#

https://gitcms.blog/#features

But this is where you must be exhaustive. You do have to open a new page for more. One key feature is references and resolving them to other files ... something like partner: reference('partners'), defined in content.config... one way I can contribute to this is by suggesting everything I feel is right for a cms and often missing because people tend to build cms for people they think should be dragging and dropping blocks like designers, instead a way for developers to let non-developers supply all the dynamic content they need ...

GitCMS

GitCMS is a Git-based CMS for Static Site Generators. It is a headless CMS that stores your content in a Git repository. It is a single source of truth for your content and a powerful tool for collaboration and version control.

distant pagoda
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@open hazel it is a WYSIWYG editor for markdown files in the github for now, right? Like Darkmatter, but web-based?

Like I can not create a content collection from the ui, connect to db to approve comments, and so on?

open hazel
silver kraken
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I urge everyone to check out Pages CMS - https://pagescms.org/
Completely free, no bs freemium open source. Git based.
Easy to set up. looks good and you don't even have to deploy it yourself if you don't want to.
a few missing features are supposed to come soon; seems like the perfect solution for easy sites.

Pages CMS: The No-Hassle CMS for Static Sites Generators

Tired of juggling Git and YAML to update your Next.js, Astro, Hugo or Nuxt website? Make it easy on you and your team, get a user-friendly CMS running straight on top of GitHub.

rancid smelt
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easy sites?

rancid smelt
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Hah @short bluff did you catch that one? ☝🏻

silver kraken
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although I am sure you can also code advanced sites with it.

random anchor
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Still just Git based CMSs, I need CMS like Sanity but really self-hosted. So with my own database.

sweet spade
# random anchor Still just Git based CMSs, I need CMS like Sanity but really self-hosted. So wit...

You should keep an eye on StudioCMS for once we release our beta.8 update! There is going to be quite a few fixes (beta.7 is now broken sadly due to a few deps (unless you manually override them)) and a HUGE Ui upgrade. StudioCMS is an astro integration, so you would have your astro project with the node adapter, and you could either run a local libSQL server, connect to a remote, or even use the local file if your host setup supports it. StudioCMS uses AstroDB (drizzle ORM with libSQL Client) for its DB connection.

random anchor
sweet spade
# random anchor I have it in bookmarks and planning to take a look.

we are hoping to have beta.8 out soon... we have been busy working on getting everything together, as we have almost completely rebuilt the entire thing again 😅 But this should be the last major change for awhile. checkout our GitHub for the current things we are working on, we also have our roadmap repo that has more details about the current rebuild project as an open PR 😄

random anchor
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I will wait for some major version, because I am looking for some CMS for clients and use it on 50+ website as CMS. So I need something stable 😄

sweet spade
random anchor
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Sounds great!

polar bear
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Guys im looking for easy headless CMS for small e-commerce site. Ofc with Astro ;). Stripe?

brazen pond
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Stripe is a payment processor, do you mean Strapi?

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I know you can use Strapi with Astro, members of my work team do this now

polar bear
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Sorry i meant strapi ofc xD

silver kraken
random anchor
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Will check, thank you

random anchor
pallid socket
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Is there any good CMS that works with Astro to create markdown frontmatter, and my components are using vue js, and it should have visual editing

half lance
half lance
sweet spade
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In sorry but this channel is for discussion of using ASTRO with CMSs… this entire website says nextJS and payload 🤔 if not Astro related please remove from here to prevent any future confusion

gusty cove
sweet spade
spiral quarry
rose vector
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Hey @gusty cove! This thread is dedicated to helping people find a CMS that works well with their Astro site. As your template is for Next.js, I’ve removed it from this thread to avoid confusing anyone looking for Astro resources. Of course you’re always welcome to share resources about Payload CMS if they relate to how to use it with Astro.

open hazel
desert kindle
fast schooner
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Yeah it’s just markdown and you can use content collections as well

blissful gazelle
rancid smelt
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i am currently building obsidian clone and a cms that is collaborative and it will be better than this way

but its not done yet so i can show you how to setup google docs with astro like this

rancid smelt
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I am planning to use my "obsidian ish" clone as a cms for my starlight website

agile blade
sweet spade
open hazel
open hazel
fast schooner
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decap doesn’t lock into netlify unless you use the netlify identity for auth

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You can have your own auth endpoints for github oauth within your astro app or just as standalone Cloudflare workers like @rancid smelt does

merry orchid
woeful mantle
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Can someone recommend good alternative to keystatic cms i had a site with it which had block builder and alot other but i want to migrate from keystatic

fast schooner
woeful mantle
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i should try sveltia is it battle tested i mean iam using keystatic in some production sites but on some iam encoutring wired issues and the project seems dead as no one no longer reply in github issues

ashen anchor
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I just deployed a site using Sveltia. Not the greatest. But not the worst either. And it has pretty active development

gusty condor
rose flame
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I just found https://getdarkmatter.dev/ and used it on a random starlight documentation. It still seems to work. Does anybody has more information on this project? There is no repository or even dates on the blog posts. The macos app is last modified on october 2024

Darkmatter - CMS for Astro content collections

Darkmatter scans your Astro content collections and generates an interface for managing their content.

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I like it 😮

distant pagoda
scenic bobcat
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Has anyone ever auth users using pocketbase?

rose flame
gusty condor
scenic bobcat
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but I'm stuck on redirects because I don't know how to redirect an unauthorized user to the login page without flickering pages

#

because you can check localstorage only on the client, but you need to load the page first. And Middleware doesn't work fine with SSG, or I didn't figure out how to do it

#

that's why I decided to keep the SSR (which is actually not really necessary for my project, but authorization is required bruh)

#

here is an example of middleware for running pocketbase on the server side

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import { defineMiddleware } from 'astro:middleware'
import PocketBase from 'pocketbase'
import { API_URL } from 'astro:env/client'

export const onRequest = defineMiddleware(async ({ locals, request, url, redirect }, next) => {
  locals.pb = new PocketBase(API_URL)

  locals.pb.authStore.loadFromCookie(request.headers.get('cookie') || '')

  try {
    locals.pb.authStore.isValid && (await locals.pb.collection('users').authRefresh())
  } catch (error) {
    console.log(error)
    locals.pb.authStore.clear()
  }

  const isAuthPage = ['/signin', '/signup'].includes(url.pathname)

  console.log(!locals.pb.authStore.isValid)
  if (locals.pb.authStore.isValid && isAuthPage) {
    return redirect('/')
  }
  if (!locals.pb.authStore.isValid && !isAuthPage) {
    return redirect('/signin')
  }

  const response = await next()

  response.headers.append('set-cookie', locals.pb.authStore.exportToCookie())

  return response
})
narrow mist
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Hi guys, I have an Issue with Astro and Sveltia CMS: Relation Fields Not Resolving Correctly for Multi-language Setup

I am migrating from Netlify CMS to Sveltia CMS to improve the management of multilingual content on my website. However, I have encountered an issue when trying to relate collections in Sveltia CMS, as the links do not include the localization correctly.

  • My website is multilingual, and collections are stored in language-specific folders (en for English and es for Spanish).

  • Relations like author are incorrectly linked without including the localization, for example, author: yuniel-acosta instead of en/yuniel-acosta or es/yuniel-acosta.

  • I tried using value_field: '{{locale}}/{{slug}}' but it resulted in author: /yuniel-acosta instead of the expected localized values.

  • CMS Configuration (config.yml) and Astro Configuration (config.ts) can be consulted in the example branch.

  • It was suggested that the {{locale}} tag cannot be used in value_field and a bug in Sveltia CMS was identified.

  • Sveltia CMS version v0.53.4 includes a partial fix, but additional manual adjustments are required in the configuration.

I still need a solution to ensure that relations between collections correctly include the localization (en/{{slug}} or es/{{slug}}). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

For more details, refer to the discussion.

Exist any astro + sveltia cms example with collections related an i18n (multilingual site) ?

Thank you

sweet spade
random anchor
# open hazel Why did you not prefer git based CMS? Any particular reason?

Because I host all client websites on a VPS with no build option. So if a change is made that requires a build, it is done manually, built and uploaded to the VPS via SSH using a deploy script.
Then there's managing the content of the site by the client and that's what the CMS is for. Once the client edits something on the site, they can see it immediately on the site without the need for a site build.

I used to use Vercel, but neither my clients or I are going to pay anyone for ridiculous data transfer limits and God knows what else.

One of our clients got almost 700k unique visits in January and he wouldn't have paid for that with Vercel. There was also a problem with Sanity, which we use as a CMS, so we had to migrate the images to Bunny CDN. Because just paying $620 to transfer images to someone, not really.

open hazel
# random anchor Because I host all client websites on a VPS with no build option. So if a change...

why not just have simple setup like this, where whenever user pushes new content file (markdown) we can trigger github CI CD to rebuild the site and deploy to cloudflare/netlify or VPS of your choice.

btw I'm currently building best and minimal git based CMS, you can have a quick look https://gitcms.blog, if you are interested let me know I could help you out simplify your client's setup if you are still using sanity or vercel.

sweet spade
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random anchor
# open hazel why not just have simple setup like this, where whenever user pushes new content...

Because CMS based on GIT is not for clients who are paying for their websites and services. Clients doesn't have access to GIT to make commit or push. Someone could do, instead of GIT based CMS, CMS with user management and markdown usage managed by NodeJS, without the need of re-build whole website.

I am using Sanity + VPS right now. I will have to create a minimal CMS for my clients, because I can't find a suitable CMS that is not GIT based and because last bill one of my client from Sanity was around 600$, so I have to move them from it.

sweet spade
# random anchor Because CMS based on GIT is not for clients who are paying for their websites an...

You might be interested in the work being done by the StudioCMS team where we are working on a SSR integration built completely within Astro that will do just what your describing! We are actually hoping to release a major patch (beta.8) here soon that will get us really close to a stable version as well, in fact here is a small video which shows off some of the progress on our new design for our dashboard #showcase message We are starting off with a basic built-in Markdown editor setup for content, and fields for Metadata, with the goal to even add WYSIWYG through our plugin system in the future 😄

random anchor
sweet spade
# random anchor Yes, I have plan to look at StudioCMS when it reach a major version. 🙂

https://github.com/withstudiocms/studiocms/pull/333 Once we get this patch out, we will be ready to start working twords getting out of beta... we are just as tired of being in beta as everyone else, and we are excited to see people start using and experimenting with it!!! So hopefully we will only have a few more releases before we finally drop a 0.1.0 version 😄 (probably 2-3 months at the rate things are moving now 😄 )

random anchor
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It's hard to find a CMS, that will compete with Wordpress. Almost every potential client will read somewhere that for a website on Wordpress you just need to buy a domain, web hosting and that's all costs in total $40 per year. But then all CMS have a pricing per month greater then the annual cost of Wordpress.

sweet spade
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#StudioCMSFOSS 😄

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we are even dropping a WP importer as well 😄

random anchor
wet pumice
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@random anchor ApostropheCMS (https://apostrophecms.com/) has a free-tier and it would let your clients add content through the frontend. Not sure if it would meet your other needs.

tawdry mauve
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Does anyone know of a CMS that works with Astro (ideally using the plain text files), and has support for Markdoc? so far, all I can find are either Markdown or MDX, or Sanity's Portable Text.

Ideally something like Cloud Cannon, but more versatile and with live cursor/editing/collaboration support.

thanks!

random anchor
half ledge
tawdry mauve
half ledge
grizzled forum
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I wanted to pass an table id into astro page how i can do like when user click on the table then navigate to the astro page with id and also i wanted to get id how i can do ? Anyone...

fast schooner
grizzled forum
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Can you explain

fast schooner
fierce ocean
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i want a astro cms like a headless-wordpress but i can deploy in vercel

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does anyone know any?

brazen pond
fierce ocean
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i check now

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ty

brazen pond
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It's kind of hard to find on Google

fierce ocean
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its my first result

brazen pond
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Maybe I'm bad at Googling lol 😅

fierce ocean
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😂

brazen pond
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The team is working on a Wordpress export plugin from what I hear. So it should help with migrations over to it. But it's still a work in progress.

fierce ocean
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omg seriously that's so great

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I'll be keeping an eye on it

sweet spade
# fierce ocean

I am so happy that it worked.... Google is a PITA... when it comes to ranking

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also im one of the Core maintainers of the project 😅

cyan fog
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anyone have a good experience introducing custom components into a cms' editor?

sweet spade
cyan fog
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i didnt even know it had an editor

sweet spade
fast schooner
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custom components are really the end game of CMS, I think they all attempt to have some form of them, but if they're good I'm not sure

directus is pretty nice, but they have to be written in vue

cyan fog
sweet spade
dreamy creek
tulip osprey
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I don't think so

dreamy creek
green wharf
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Anyone ever tried using laravel + astro? Thoughts?

tulip osprey
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I don't think that's really compatible, those are concurrent tools (ie. at the same level)

sweet spade
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cyan fog
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can my notes app be used as a cms, it syncs to icloud and icloud has an api right

sweet spade
rancid smelt
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When you can't even share a (public) link to stuff on iCloud without "viewers" having an Apple account? Damn, Apple!

sweet spade
fast schooner
cyan fog
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any half competently built native app will be better than opening a web based editor on mobile

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doesnt have to be by apple

rancid smelt
wispy trench
sweet spade
wispy trench
sweet spade
wispy trench
sweet spade
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well, when you take ~700 messages, and provide a history to a program to gather all the commented CMS's... thats what it gives ya... 🤣
All i did was verify that it caught all the CMSs from this chat....

wispy trench
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what u prefer for blog posts as cms easy to login easy to publish posts easy to manage personel info etc.

sweet spade
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I am not the best person to ask.... 😅 I am the dev behind the StudioCMS project...

wispy trench
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any experience until creating your own cms ? 😦

sweet spade
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Just various random CMSes trying them out... Mostly worked with pagebuilder style more than content(before i got into astro)... GhostCMS wasn't tooo bad... as long as you make sure to keep good DB backups... and be careful during updates. (i even maintain a Astro content loader for it, since it was the one i used in my early astro days)

distant pagoda
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Can we all choose one CMS with a good team behind and collectively use it.

inland cipher
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Not every CMS serves the same purpose

merry orchid
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Yeah, CMSs differ so much 😅 . If I learned something here, it is that I have a lot of good CMS options and it really depends on my use case.

zenith hare
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I'm trying to decide on a CMS; preferably something that:
a) is self-hosted (ie Ghost or Apostrophe)
b) has a block-based building system - ie; being able to drag-and-drop Astro components into a page

sweet spade
timid carbon
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sooooo

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whats the best cms?

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did we come to a conclusion?

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looking for a free one for my static site

hollow night
sweet spade
hollow night
silver kraken
distant pagoda
silver kraken
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also it let's you customize the CMS (color, logo, etc) which is a paid feature for a lot of CMS systems

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that's the reason why I choose Directus, when I am looking for a CMS that I am hosting myself.. sure Strapi and Payload are great as well

pallid copper
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I’m still banging the Sanity drum. Free tier is very generous (they host your data) and the CMS is very flexible with visual editing. It doesn’t have enough out of the box IMO but it has a plugin eco system. Works well with Astro because you just access the content via the API and there are Astro-specific helper libraries that connect the two

drifting delta
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Still looking to give Sanity a try as I keep reading good comments about it. Have been trying to limit the amount of extra seperate services myself or a client needs to be registered for (image hosting, cms, contact form etc.) to have a functioning site while also avoiding vendor lock-in. Thats why I am liking the simplicity of Keystatic cms at the moment as it is just creating the markdown, json etc. in your project, which you then access like you normally would with astro for local data.

cyan fog
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have any of your clients said something nice about a CMS?

distant pagoda
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Upd: I’ve started using self-hosted Directus and it runs great so far, previously I had remark-rehype plugins to pass dates to markdown, now everything is automated and the overall setup is not that fragile.

I also love wysiwyg for the ability to change html right from there. I use it to add <section> wrappers where needed.

rancid smelt
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The web hasn't (and will ever?) recover from (the sickness of) WordPress (or "website builders").

random anchor
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I have tried other CMS, but so far Sanity CMS still wins. Our clients like it, everything is clear (they mostly switch from WordPress) and there is no problem.

rancid smelt
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Are you / they paying for Sanity yet?

random anchor
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They did, but I fixed it on our server, so they can have at least 1 million visitors per month without paying for Sanity. One of our client had 2.5 millions pageviews per month and bill was about $650. Now he's fine and would pay a maximum of $40 if he had around 2.5 million hits again. But for now it's free. The site itself earned him around $3,000 that month, so the Sanity bill wasn't a problem anyway, but it was a signal to take action and optimize.

brazen pond
random anchor
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Using Node SSR Adapter for all websites. When client edit something in Sanity, it must be live at the moment.

cyan fog
random anchor
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Including various experimentation, it was about 14 hours. But now that we have the solution ready, it is possible to implement it with modifications in the project within 3 hours. It depends on the scope of the project.

warm wasp
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hi everyone, i'm a designer who wants to explore the dev world. i just wanted to pop in and ask:

WORDPRESS is familiar to many and has a huge plugin ecosystem. wouldn't it be a decent idea to use it as headless CMS?

i'm thinking: if the need arises, i could probably add a few plugins that solve my problem (booking systems, simple woocommerce shop)

random anchor
# warm wasp hi everyone, i'm a designer who wants to explore the dev world. i just wanted to...

At least for me, WordPress is a no go. Old code, plugins are mostly not checked, so if you download some no name plugin, it's a security flaw. Not to mention the cluttered administration. At least that's what our clients who have switched from WordPress to Sanity CMS say, where they only have what they need.
Mainly, if you use WordPress as headless, you have to interface so many things with the frontend, and as far as I know, a lot of people who just install WordPress and the plugins for it, they have no idea what's going on in the background and what exactly it brought them. So with a headless solution I'm guessing you're going to transfer about 1/2 of the stuff to the frontend.

hexed wagon
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Personally plan on writing all of my article/guide pages with vscode in mdx and html...
And using Decap for blog / newsposts. ( @timid carbon )

deep sinew
hexed wagon
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^ Intrigued by this. I like Obsidian.

chrome dagger
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Personally at enterprise level I have seen multiple companies using Storyblok. Super easy to set up as well.

torpid vale
chrome dagger
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So rn I just have to rebuild the preview branch to see changes which is fine or I’ll just do local dev which auto refreshes

hexed wagon
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I found something called Frontmatter CMS, a VSCode addon that let's you do the CMSing right there in VSCode. Intrigued by that too, but not quite sure how to config it correctly yet.

torpid vale
chrome dagger
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Or maybe it’s doable in the Astro config hmmm

torpid vale
agile blade
sweet spade
# agile blade skimming the pre-releases, looks like things have been progressing rather rapidl...

We are hoping to be able to drop the beta tag sooner than later, and start moving up the standard semver. We are just working to primarily clear out any of the bugs we happen to come across as well as flush out the current features. beta.8 took forever mostly because it was basically a complete rewrite of the internal functionality as well as the dashboard design itself. currently we are working on preparing to release beta.13 (currently on NPM beta.12 is available) and there is only a few more things to work out in this update, then it drops with a bunch of bug fixes, feature changes and cleanup.

Our biggest focus has really been trying to make the whole thing as dynamic as possible through our plugin system for other devs to be able to come in and add functionality through their own plugins, as well as trying to getting features that we currently have as close to "feature complete" as possible.

agile blade
sweet spade
agile blade
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awesome! i think I'll check it out then

rugged finch
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anyone has experience with both cloudcannon and storyblok? If so, do you recommend one over the other

silver kraken
pallid copper
tender osprey
random anchor
#

Here you can see Sanity bandwidth + traffic for February.

image.png image.png
silver kraken
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also makes deploying sites on something like railway possible without worrying that you have to pay crazy egress. are you caching yourself or using something like bunny cdn?

random anchor
# silver kraken a nice! yeah that makes a lot of sense!

Before we got to this solution, we quickly switched to Bunny CDN, but then we moved it to our server.

It was important for us that when the client modifies something in Sanity CMS, the changes are reflected on the site immediately, without the need to build the entire site and preserve data in the cache memory, which we managed to do with this solution.

tulip osprey
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how are you managing the cache, somethine like cdn cache tags or redis?

random anchor
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In-memory cache

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Otherwise, it is currently on a simple basis that the data is cached for 60 days, or deleted earlier if the site is rebuilt.

So no tagging and deleting. Alternatively, in the future, tag individual segments of data in the in-memory cache and then use API requests to delete them, if necessary, directly from Sanity CMS using webhooks.

pallid copper
fiery kestrel
#

Hey all, I've scanned over this thread and will continue looking over it but in the meantime I figured I'd post what I'm looking for. I'm after a simple CMS for a client website, it would be really simple, essentially just adding adding case studies to their folio section and it might expand to include a blog/news section at some point. I've only really used Astro for my own site so far and I'm happy managing that through git so i haven't really done any client CMS stuff with Astro.

A good 6 months or maybe a year a go I dabbled with Tina CMS and Payload, they were okay, I think I preferred Payload, I also tried out decap but had some problems with it, but that was right at the time where they were switching over to Decap. I've also tried Strapi and Directus, pretty nice, but probably overkill in this instance and Strapi requires a VPS, can't remember on Directus. Hearing good stuff about Sanity but managing the free tier and the prospect of surprise bills puts me off.

So I'm pretty much looking for a simple, stable, client pleasing CMS which isn't too mind bending to implement and close to free with not too fancy hosting requirements. That's asking a lot isn't it!? 😄 I'm not tied to git based, but that might be the best fit here?

fiery kestrel
#

So I've more or less just read the entire thread, phew. A couple of posts put my mind at rest about Sanity free tier. So currently, Sanity and Keystatic battling out for the lead, Decap trailing, maybe pagescms as a late outsider. Does anyone know how far off StudioCMS is?

sweet spade
# fiery kestrel So I've more or less just read the entire thread, phew. A couple of posts put my...

StudioCMS is getting closer and closer! (I am one of the maintainers!) We are working on a bunch of cleanup, and making sure there is no crazy bugs and everything is working as intended or implemented. once that is done we will be ready to drop the beta tags!

Feel free to hop in our discord https://chat.studiocms.dev to keep your self informed with all our news and updates!

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pseudo leaf
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Why not headless WordPress?

green wharf
quaint merlin
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What would ya'll recommend for a cms that needs an easily extensible dashboard? Need media upload hooks to process audio, maybe upload and preview 3d models. I used to use payload 2, but I really dislike the way 3 works now.
Been looking through https://docs.astro.build/en/guides/cms/ for an hour now but none catch my eye.
The ones people seem to recommend here are mostly for simple blogs and such, some don't even have a UI.
simple multi-tenancy would also be nice :)
self-hosting and FOSS is a must
thanks

quaint merlin
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I just discovered https://pocketbase.io/, looks almost perfect! surprised it's not on the list. Even can be extended with svelte, so maybe somehow could work with astro.
They have an astro example!

ashen anchor
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Pocketbase is great! It’s not V1 yet. But I’ve used it for a couple things and enjoy it

quaint merlin
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I did a lot of research on it, and it has no dashboard UI extensions yet. In fact, they say it's not a CMS and one should make their own user-facing dashboard in prod.
Thus I crawled back to payload :(

coral plover
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well, at least when i'm not cheating on astro with next 😛

half lance
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Benefits of pocketbase is, its super fast and also I can test which indexing works for me very easily.

tall sonnet
random anchor
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How will plasmic work with Astro? Plasmic looks like Framer, Webflow etc. or do they have some API for Astro as frontend?

flint barn
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I build and use my own CMS, Strife. I chose to create it because I wanted a CMS that's genuinely easy for non-developers to use, with a strong focus on a beautiful, real-time preview. Our goal is simply to help more people confidently manage their content on the web. Happy to chat more if anyone is curious! https://strife.app

Strife - Reinventing Content Management

A brand new headless CMS built on core web standards, blazing fast with immense flexibility for both delevlopers and editors.

rancid smelt
bronze salmon
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Payload CMS

coral plover
bronze salmon
flint barn
fast schooner
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@rancid smelt did you use storyblok for your latest site ?

rancid smelt
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No, not at all. Ditched forever, even gradually pulling all my sites from them... latest site is all content collections/mdx for now

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No returning to storyblok, ever.. still watching how studio is coming along, sadly not been able to contribute/participate as i'd like

ashen anchor
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If you don’t need the Visual Editing. I found SvelitaCMS to work well enough. It’s DecapCMS but written in Svelte.

rancid smelt
bronze salmon
fast schooner
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I tried storyblok visual editing recently, was painful but it could’ve been user error

Will give it another shot at some point

ashen anchor
bronze salmon
fast schooner
bronze salmon
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And you'd want a good idea on how you plan to model your content

brazen pond
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Speaking of Sanity with visual editing, does anyone have a public repo/demo of sanity working with visual editing?

bronze salmon
oak quarry
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I’m thinking strapi + Astro or I’ve seen a lot of strapi + Next? Not sure what to make of it. Need to make more than just a blogpost site. Anything from fullstack apps with database MySQL/psql, and client sites that’ll need membership tiers and event calendars with a few content pages.

rancid smelt
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I even posted on #general then questioning why Astro would choose them as official CMS sponsor when they couldn't even support their <again holds off swearing> software... I lost the equivalent of a whole month just sorting storyblok errors...

bronze salmon
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Is it mainly cuz they require you to depend on client components to render content?

edgy lagoon
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Going to throw Bknd as an option for a CMS too. It's a lightweight Strapi alternative that integrates directly into your Astro server so you don't need to run two servers. It's pretty cool tbh

https://bknd.io/

BKND ⚡ Lightweight Firebase alternative built to run anywhere.

Experience the power of a lightweight, feature-rich backend that seamlessly integrates into your framework of choice. Start building smarter today.

brazen pond
# bronze salmon What do you want to see?

Ideally what the page will look like inside the editor, and to make changes and to see those changes reflected in the visual editor before actually publishing the page live for everyone

bronze salmon
brazen pond
bronze salmon
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Honestly, best to try it out. Add it to a Sanity + Astro template

brazen pond
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Oh and it works with Astro? Is there an existing template/repo that shows this or should I just try making it myself?

bronze salmon
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Let me take another look

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Once I've played with this a lot more, I reckon I'll try open a PR for the docs, as there's a lack of info with regards to live-preview with headless CMSs atm

brazen pond
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Cool, I'll take a deep dive into it!

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Thanks!

bronze salmon
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No worries. You'll also need to account for conditionally rendering the presentation tool to only those that are logged into Sanity Studio

oak quarry
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Yeah, Sanity is pretty good overall for cms. I'd recommend it as well.

fast schooner
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maybe make a fresh one

bronze salmon
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GROQ is damn annoying to use with Sanity though, that's the biggest negative imo

rancid smelt
bronze salmon
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Reminds me of PocketBase

rancid smelt
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honstly after trying alot of git based cms i found one that might be perfect the only feature i am missing is live editing

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now its forever free the only thing you need to do is configure what files to show and how to show them

any file type is supported but it will be just text preview

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https://tina.io/docs/editing/blocks

currently i am using Tina seems like the perfect way to have for my clients

live editing seems so powerful ...you can even make your astro component into mdx and add them using ui without the client knowing anything about code

Using Tina as a Website Builder

Tina supports block-based editing, so that your editors can build out full pages using your pre-defined blocks (i.e. page sections ). Let's... || TinaCMS Docs

fast schooner
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yeah tinas nice my issue was that you have to use cloudinary for responsive images

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also the custom blocks are a bit of a pain but i didnt dig too far into them

fast schooner
rancid smelt
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i am a simple man with simple needs

live preview + git based cms + simple git auth using cloudflare worker or that gitlab feature

ashen anchor
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Need another counter.

Days since a JavaScript CMS is released.

rancid smelt
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bassically decap cms fork but with better ui

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but it's now discontinued sadly

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you can use gitlab free feature for auth or host a cloudflare worker so it's basically free

ashen anchor
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I actually use Sveltia with https://dallaslowry.org/ and it works well

https://dallaslowry.org/
The Dallas Lowry Foundation

Supporting Veterans, First Responders, Deaf, Hard of Hearing, and Their Families Welcome to The Dallas Lowry Foundation We provide support to veterans, first responders, deaf, hard of hearing and their families.We have various services we offer. Please visit our services page for more info. We are based in Broken Arrow, OK and provide support th...

rancid smelt
shrewd zephyr
rancid smelt
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wait now it works

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before when i click login it hangs and does nothing

rancid smelt
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this feature is so cool👌👌

zealous marsh
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Hi. I wanted to make a project using Astro + React + DecapCMS. Apparently DecapCMS doesn't work with React 19, and I have to downscale it to 18

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Do you sugest any other CMS I could use (it's a very simple project)?

ashen anchor
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Depends on what you need. I use Contentful for one client. Very simple implementation and the free plan is more than enough for them. Then i use SvelitaCMS for another client.

ripe verge
zealous marsh
# ashen anchor Depends on what you need. I use Contentful for one client. Very simple implement...

ty for the answer. I'll try them. It's a very very simple work. I have a React component in a page:
<Card title={} text={} etc.. /> and I want to create like 5 of them using a CMS (i dont even need to create a new page for it, just edit the content of a page creating a new component). I tried Decap but no, I tryed Sanity and I got insane xd I was looking for something ez (i never used a headless cms so I might be a noob)

zealous marsh
spiral yoke
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I'm using pagesCMS for my current site, it's great for basic content management when you don't want your copy writers to ever have to look at a curly brace or a git repo. It's still early in it's life but the creator is really invested in the project and very proactive.

coral plover
tacit current
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To those of you using Decap CMS and wanting to migrate away from deprecated Netlify Identity, I recently updated my Astro Decap template to use a cool solution called decapbridge. I detail the upgrading steps in my kit's readme. All you need is a free Decapbridge account, a fine-grained Github token and a few lines in config.yml.
Visit Decapbridge Discord and their open-sources repos for more information on their solution.

ashen anchor
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My biggest problem with like DecapCMS and SveltiaCMS is that you need a GitHub account to access it. If I want to hand it over to a client. I would like something like Google Oauth or something easy for them to use

tacit current
rancid smelt
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i am going to use astro starlight as my first demo

rancid smelt
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this is what i got rn ⚡

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Just a collaborative text editor with no servers involved looks amazing also im using CRDTs ...like yjs

obsidian wind
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docker

velvet shoal
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I use notion as my "backend"

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and it has opened up a whole new world of opportunity ngl

rancid smelt
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i didn't like notion just because it was slow on my phone otherwise its so nice

analog veldt
rancid smelt
analog veldt
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Many of them, but not all.
Strapi (Cloud) and Sanity e.g. provide more manageable pricing step-ups.

silver kraken
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directus is the best solution if you're working with a database imo - can work with any database, free if selfhosted unless your client has a lot of revenue.

random anchor
rancid smelt
random anchor
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You don't know how much the client will consume, but you can anticipate and adjust the development accordingly.

woeful mantle
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is there is any good file based cms .yaml which accept block builder i did tried keystatic is past in almost 20 sites. but seems like the main developer is not contributing to the project anymore other then that there are tons of issues open hardly someone fix it .

just and FYI my site will have over 3000+ .yaml files

brazen pond
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I just heard that Payload CMS has joined Figma. What do you all think about that? (It will remain open-source)

tulip osprey
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I think that's an interesting take

brazen pond
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I am interested to see where it will go/transform, I can't say if I'm pleased or dissapointed to hear that haha usually when cool projects join big companies it doesn't end well

ashen anchor
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This is interesting...

analog veldt
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Still have AEM traumas 😳

rancid smelt
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Figma is the new Adobe... oops #off-topic

naive pendant
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Did someone made a pool for what cms people use? would be nice to recap this thread

tulip osprey
naive pendant
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maybe, but there are 3 total votes 😅

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let me create one here let's see if people vote

rancid smelt
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@naive pendant you should still add storyblok even if, for me, at this time, any rate, it's impossible to pick favorite... none I've tried has favored me

naive pendant
naive pendant
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Keystatic is good but there are still missing features and it looks like they stopped the development

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All the others have outrageous prices that if you exceed the free tier just by a little bit you end up pay hundreds a month, probably ok for big companies but not for people starting out

pallid copper
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With Sanity looking popular for Astro projects, is it worth creating a thread for Sanity-specific community support? Sanity docs are lacking for Astro so maybe if we club together we can all advance. I’m not discord-literate so not sure of the best way to do that

random anchor
# random anchor I've set up caching on our server. As soon as a visitor comes to the site, the...

Further to my previous post. I'm still testing it, but it looks like I've managed to completely "skip" the limits on Sanity.

I'm storing the images in plain memory-cache for now - see what I wrote earlier - which saves bandwidth.

Now I'm concentrating on other limits like API/API CDN Requests. To make it easier to use Live Content Collections, I made my own loader where I load data from Sanity and then store it in the Redis cache.

So far, the result is that the website does not consume any additional Sanity resources. But I will test further before deploying it to other sites.

fast schooner
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Very cool, how do you invalidate the cache?

I’ve just done static sites with sanity and never had to worry about limits

random anchor
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Within Redis, I set up the key cache. Then I created an Endpoint API that calls Sanity through the webhook. I then use this webhook to invalidate the Redis cache by key.

As a result, fresh data is loaded after editing/creating data in Sanity without the need to rebuild project.

fast schooner
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Very cool

random anchor
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Of course, it's not quite worked out in detail yet.
For example, I haven't yet tested how it will work if I have multiple documents in Sanity - how to differentiate redis keys within webhook. But hopefully it will work 😄

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The worst case scenario is that all keys would be invalidated by a single webhook.

rancid smelt
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the idea is collaborative realtime cms using matrix then on the push of a button it commits the file to the Github repo then github actions will turn it into html or markdown files

split nymph
naive pendant
# naive pendant
poll_question_text

What's your favourite CMS?

victor_answer_votes

14

total_votes

31

victor_answer_id

10

victor_answer_text

Others

fast schooner
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Now we need the others answerers to tell us which they meant 😅

naive pendant
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we need another poll for that 😆

cyan fog
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payload is still nextjs only right, even after figma acquisition

fast schooner
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I assume you can interact with the headless cms api bit from any framework but I’m not sure

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They brand heavily toward next so there’s probably some sort of sdk like stuff that is next only

brazen pond
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Payload runs on a nextjs server but it still behaves like a headless cms whether you’re using nextjs or not

civic drift
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Yeah you can connect use it with astro via their rest api. A couple of us in the payload server have been discussing and sharing tips, starter templates, etc.

silver kraken
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people are sleeping on Directus, it's free and has a ton of features, easy to self-host

rancid smelt
half lance
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I have developed a CMS using astro. As of now it's pretty fast. I need some testers who can give me feedback on it.
Its mainly for writers(news/blog/brand blogs). Let me know if anyone's interested in testing my product.

high tangle
rancid smelt
half lance
deft geyser
next vapor
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i was thinking of trying sveltia-cms, anyone have experience with it?

zealous marsh
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Hi, I was trying the astro + sanity integration and on the sanity website I found this holy command:
npm create sanity@latest -- --template sanity-io/sanity-template-astro-clean
It was pure gold as it setup everything, and I was ready to go.
The bigger problem is that no dependency is updated. For example it runs astro v5, sanity is not updated and many other dependencies, and it's a pain to update them all manually because there are many and might break things. Anyone that uses Astro + Sanity consider this a problem for new projects? (things were working though)

ashen anchor
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@fast schooner I know you use Sanity. Right?

brazen pond
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I've used a little bit of Sanity before, won't call myself an expert though

ashen anchor
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May be best to open a new #1019713903481081876 thread for issues with a certain CMS

zealous marsh
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Yeah, I asked in the sanity discord and they indeed told me those dependencies are outdated, and I had to arrange myself with what I could houston_celebrate

fast schooner
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I just did pnpm up on the sanity repo within the surrounding mono repo and had success

zealous marsh
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@fast schooner yeah, it works which is great, but if you look at the dependencies they all are outdated. I was wondering if this is a problem or I could start building a blog anyway

fast schooner
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By pnpm up I mean I updated all the sanity deps

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But yeah in general safe to start building

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@zealous marsh

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I’m assuming you have two directories inside the mono repo one for astro one for sanity (studio)

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Inside each of those directories there’s a package.json so you can update either of them

zealous marsh
fast schooner
random anchor
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I am using Sanity, but I don't like these "templates" I prefer manual install 😄 I am using flag --latest for update dependencies, like pnpm update --latest

oblique rapids
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👋 Built a small CLI tool for Astro blogs — blogue
It reads your content/config.ts, uses your Zod schemas, and helps you generate posts with valid frontmatter + auto-PRs.

npm install -g @blogue/cli
blogue new       # Create post
blogue publish   # PR + auto-merge

Useful for my own blog, but curious if others would find it helpful — happy to get feedback or collaborate!

GitHub
GitHub - iabrmv/blogue: An interactive CLI tool for publishing blog...

An interactive CLI tool for publishing blog posts with GitHub - iabrmv/blogue

tulip osprey
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Feel free to also share it in #showcase!

silver kraken
silver kraken