💬┃talk

[charred cove]

no info rn

[forest meteor]

and now the card is paired to a ryzen 5 2600x 😂 ✌️

[charred cove]

I hope so

[forest meteor]

to what

[dusk sail]

Kaimson's Fraud Advisor 🤣

[slate helm]

dude, feather server are literally hosted on your computer 😂

[forest meteor]

😂

[echo flint]

I am in the process of creating a new VM to extract feather's launcher without triggering an update 👍

[vocal yarrow]

ad fraud is so funny 🤣

[median storm]

Server runs on your pc but it uses Feather proxy network

[forest meteor]

we've been cooking this up for a while (for legal reasons this is a joke)

[winter yoke]

just release the linux version ✌️

[oak coral]

bro they are a selfhost your computer is the host that is what that means lmao

[median storm]

so there will be latency test it out if you dont believe me

[vocal yarrow]

wc.setbackgroundthrottling(false)

[sterile sand]

h

[slate helm]

yeah, the server is still running on your computer though

[median storm]

i never said it wasnt, im just saying it has latency

[half mantle]

Fraud client on the top

[forest meteor]

I cant read code

[clear tangle]

nobody escapes the client playground.

your code WILL be trash talked

[late rose]

Yo would u help me w sum

[echo flint]

The server is on your pc, but you just get a feather domain for players to connect and it masks your public ip

[oak coral]

yes but the ping for it will be like 4ms beacuse you konw on your computer you cant really get better then that if you use a server ever

[solar helm]

larp detected

[tranquil venture]

Yesterday I died as keeper with sacred heart because I got cornered by spiked cubes

[slate helm]

the proxy is only here to protect whoever is connecting their ip
if you don't like it you can port forward and give them your ip

[vocal yarrow]

chat lets larp

[median storm]

its significant

[forest meteor]

what does that even mean

[solar helm]

how do I larp csm

[vocal yarrow]

poser

[median storm]

its significant the delay

[clear tangle]

let's larp, just this once

[frank scroll]

Live action role play

[late rose]

Unc help me please

[dusk sail]

it means larp

[forest meteor]

oh pose

[forest meteor]

ok bro

[vocal yarrow]

power best character

[solar helm]

do I have to glaze reze arc or smth

[clear tangle]

see this is a great example of larping

[vocal yarrow]

denji is a weirdo

[frozen stump]

@sullen ember
can you address my following questions:

• Why dev tool or whatever it's called was disabled after caleb contacted you?
• Why is obfuscation necessary in the first place and why it was put in place after years of launch?
• Proof of it being placed in January and not after being confronted.

[median storm]

again i get that but it is a latency

[echo flint]

D1 idiot activity if you do that btw, but some people do for some reason

[dusk sail]

I am known for my larping

[forest meteor]

I feel old 👴

[vocal yarrow]

makima best girl

[solar helm]

bro made his name grand regent like he da big thragg ☠️ skull emoji skull emoji

[clear tangle]

I only know you from like melon client

[tranquil venture]

I never watched csm but isnt she like the devil

[vocal yarrow]

u need to hate on s1's animation

[dusk sail]

I had this name for years, don't insult me

[solar helm]

Bro is not thragg

[vocal yarrow]

EVEN THO IT WAS PEAK

[autumn echo]

I believe the staff team does annual larp sessions bi-weekly

[frank scroll]

See asa is the best because she's the perfect incel foid

[solar helm]

invincible s1 animation better

[forest meteor]

😄 (sleep with one eye open tonight)

[vocal yarrow]

calm down

[oak coral]

you are playing on the server. it is like bedrock worlds you are host a server techenely so there is some ping and if someone happens to the server then well you lag cause it is a server but you get low ping as you are directly ontop of it

[tranquil venture]

Ok

[vocal yarrow]

we dotn talk about hat

that

[frozen stump]

boi bro thinks he's some grand regent ☠️ #sigma #india #phonk

[forest meteor]

u have extreme gf issues istg

[vocal yarrow]

we are larping u see

[tranquil venture]

Yes sir

[median storm]

like its not a bad service but the difference is significant so thats why i reccomended self hosting since no proxy

[vocal yarrow]

tf does that mean

[gleaming rapids]

heyy boss buddy i hd recently applied for staff and transloter

[clear tangle]

@author Kaimson the Clown. 😭

[forest meteor]

U like makima 💀

[solar helm]

exactly what I’m saying #sigmaindianphonkigoontomarlow

[dusk sail]

Oh I remember this

[vocal yarrow]

makima is fine

[dire oracle]

btw fc is a fraud

[echo flint]

If you use feather, you ARE SELF HOSTING

[vocal yarrow]

she is cool character

[forest meteor]

U JUST SAI-

[vocal yarrow]

i like reze more

[median storm]

with a proxy

[solar helm]

Its pixels 🙏

[vocal yarrow]

short hair

[forest meteor]

So u have extreme gf issues

[vocal yarrow]

i said as a character

[median storm]

which means there is latency

[solar helm]

Uh huh

[frozen stump]

innocentmogged by power

[oak coral]

bro feather is selfhosting the prox is to stop your ip being leaked that is how you should set up your server anyway it is basic practice

[echo flint]

Where is the server located. Tell me. Is it self, or is it not

[clear tangle]

i mean id like reze more too

[forest meteor]

u done goofed

[solar helm]

Larp larp larp sahuuuuur

[tranquil venture]

Whos the orange dog thing

[vocal yarrow]

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN BRO

[frozen stump]

just for 4'11 reze to lovebombmogg

[forest meteor]

😡

[vocal yarrow]

W LARPS

https://tenor.com/view/im-silly-nobana-higashiyama-nobana-higashiyama-higashiyama-nobana-gif-3111086672117855407

[frank scroll]

It means ur like me but less

[median storm]

if you set it up on your network you dont need proxy

[clear tangle]

youre not larping enough skipper

[forest meteor]

U have extreme gf issues (u dont have a gf tho)

[echo flint]

You can connect using localhost you larp, you dont need to use feather's domain to connect to your own server

[solar helm]

Just writing words bro

[tranquil venture]

Ty ty

[dusk sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141975975740063785/1498991673093525504/Star_Wars_but_its_ruined_by_AI_bazZdwm_Yvk.mp4?ex=69f32c48&is=69f1dac8&hm=a49842b6cf85a448382a471d8587592dbfc4795c73e4bb4c2e6d5d6013abb444&

[forest meteor]

ok bro calm the hell down

[solar helm]

how do I manipulate and larp lik ayanokoji

[vocal yarrow]

I HAD ONE

NOW PLEASE SHUT UP

[median storm]

Server runs on your PC but it uses Feather proxy network which causes latency

[forest meteor]

HAD

[clear tangle]

you got clowned by decencies in ESS but I dont think you were there in that server when it happened

[forest meteor]

u know I wont ever do that

[echo flint]

YOU CAN USE LOCALHOST

[solar helm]

larplarplarp

[vocal yarrow]

yes had

[median storm]

the network is not local

[clear tangle]

ggs your client gave birth to 2000 other clients that look identical to melon

[oak coral]

what are you doing that you need less then 4ms???

[median storm]

you cant its proxy

[solar helm]

larp

[dusk sail]

You're saying I got clowned, but jokes on them I've been making bank ever since lol. Could not care less

[median storm]

its literally more than 20ms

[solar helm]

^

[cosmic dune]

balls

[solar helm]

larp

[echo flint]

You are actually an idiot, stop speaking to me. Please look things up before speaking

[vocal yarrow]

mid

[oak coral]

well you are wrong there cause i run them on a consistent 4ms

[vocal yarrow]

literally me

[tropic dove]

thats what feather does right

[forest meteor]

kids need to chill istg

[solar helm]

I haven’t watched a single episode can I just larp it @vocal yarrow

[echo flint]

You now need permission to speak, please stop talking out of turn

[vocal yarrow]

these foids are ruining my life

[median storm]

ill say it one last time: the network is a proxy so you cannot run it fully locally

[clear tangle]

since 2021? i see

[frank scroll]

Yes ur so right

[vocal yarrow]

i watched it all

its so dogshit bro

i cant

[forest meteor]

ur just like ayanokoji

[solar helm]

How can I larp it

[dusk sail]

My financial advisor can confirm

[oak coral]

also with mc practicly having anything below 25ms is good there is no need for below that number as minecraft has no real change past that point

[vocal yarrow]

glaze the main character

hate foids

[solar helm]

Yo how do I larp supernatural I’m tryna larpmaxx

[forest meteor]

for legal reasons this is a fudging joke

[median storm]

still can be significant

[vocal yarrow]

dont speak

[echo flint]

You can port forward your ip, you don't need to use their proxy. Feather servers bind to 0.0.0.0 by default, meaning you don't need to use their proxy

[solar helm]

do I have to be cold and calculated

[frank scroll]

Just like say stuff Abt demons and angels or whatever

[dusk sail]

Kaimson's Larper

[vocal yarrow]

yes

[clear tangle]

larp larp larp sahur

[solar helm]

Do I have to glaze Sam Winchester

[forest meteor]

[vocal yarrow]

i ned to cut out the foids from my life

they are ruining my life

[forest meteor]

I am going to steal ur house

[frank scroll]

No Sam is niche you have to glaze dean

[frozen stump]

All the 2d foids trying to fogg

Until 6'2 CC descends from the depths of heaven to Snowmogg every foid
Until 4'2 Waguri cutemoggs the entirety of the 2d foid council
Until 5'2 Yukino appears from the depths of peak romance to mog every 2d foid (last upgrade)
Until 5'6 Mai sakurajima appears from the depths of Top #1 romance anime to foggmogg the entirety of 2d anime foids (final upgrade)

[solar helm]

u da real moid

[oak coral]

in no mc gameplay 25ms will be significant maybe if you are doing something else but in mc anything below 25ms is good and there will be no gameplay difference between 4ms and 15ms

[forest meteor]

tf does that mean 😭

[frank scroll]

Cut my life into pieces, this is my last resort

[vocal yarrow]

tf is a moid

[median storm]

most people don’t port forward, so Feather promotes its proxy as the default

[vocal yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-23436511

[solar helm]

foid=femoid=vulgar word for a female

[vocal yarrow]

this is literally me

[solar helm]

u

[frozen stump]

chudoid

[echo flint]

Gang you are so dumb, please do some research

[clear tangle]

emo arse

[forest meteor]

what the f-

[frank scroll]

Don't waste your time on me you're already the voice inside my head

[vocal yarrow]

🖤 🖤

let me be sad

[frozen stump]

all foids are evil

[median storm]

it has significance

[dusk sail]

what was so dumb about that

[forest meteor]

can u stop flirting with him?

[frozen stump]

eliminate all foids

2d anime women > foids

[vocal yarrow]

DONT EVER CALL ME A CHUD

[echo flint]

That you have to use the feather proxy because it just says thats the ip?

[vocal yarrow]

IM AN EMO

[frozen stump]

chud chud chud

[forest meteor]

chud

[oak coral]

can you tell me one case in mc where having less then 24ms will give you a disadvatage over someone with 4ms??

[dusk sail]

He didn't say you have to? It's just the default way

[vocal yarrow]

mods slime this guy

[frozen stump]

ur sub3 u can never be that 2016 emo boi

[vocal yarrow]

sub3???

[forest meteor]

I am immortal

[vocal yarrow]

what does that mean

[solar helm]

yo go back to developing fake thragg

[vocal sierra]

hy

[vocal yarrow]

whatsapp

[dusk sail]

nah im playing dbd right now

[frozen stump]

you're the top 3 percentile of the chud community

[civic pine]

dol

[vocal yarrow]

ew

[dusk sail]

but one of our teammates is taking a smoke break

[echo flint]

Its not default any way? I can connect to a feather server with the kids ip (if they forward it) or the feather one. Its binded to 0.0.0.0 and linked to the proxy

[dusk sail]

so im wasting time here

[solar helm]

Only Uncs play dead by daylight lowk

[forest meteor]

still playing dbd

[civic pine]

does anyone know how to find config in feather files

[dusk sail]

Mad cuz ur bad

[forest meteor]

hmmm

[median storm]

Feather does bind to 0.0.0.0, so port forwarding works. I’m just saying most users don’t set that up, so the proxy is the default/easier option for them.

[frozen stump]

do u dev as a full time

[forest meteor]

yes

[clear tangle]

precious dev time wasted on larping in discord

[vocal yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/gerard-way-picmix-my-chemical-romance-mcr-princess-gif-9432528221294333402

[dusk sail]

He does not know the word default apparently

[vocal yarrow]

im larping

am i doing good?

[echo flint]

Most users would use the proxy here, but im not most users

[frozen stump]

is it worth it

[dusk sail]

yes. Here? No.

[frozen stump]

nah ur a chud anyone can tell

[frank scroll]

Waiting for Claude to finish his work 🗣️🗣️

[forest meteor]

ur still going to be single so its pointless

[clear tangle]

youre not larping enough

[round belfry]

Hmm

[civic pine]

does anyone know how to find config in feather files

[forest meteor]

idk

[vocal yarrow]

yeah tbh

i think

[round belfry]

Temp gone

[tropic dove]

yes

[echo flint]

Oh, you're the AI plugin guy. I remember you from yesterday

[median storm]

we were talking about the general public, also the guy was asking about specifically linux which means that there is no way to even use this client lol

[round belfry]

I think

[vocal yarrow]

i dont think ill find a girl who listens to glaive and lucy

[frozen stump]

what can u do that Claude 3.5 or whatever the latest version is can't do?

[forest meteor]

Omg 🤦

[clear tangle]

what if i told you my crush liked glaive

[frank scroll]

I don't think I'll find a girl full stop

[dusk sail]

I write code that isn't slop

[vocal yarrow]

ill take ur crush

[forest meteor]

u alr have a gf

[clear tangle]

sorry shes mine

[fallen patrol]

False (jk)

[vocal yarrow]

1v1 me bro

[frank scroll]

I don't dude I got dumped like twice

[vocal yarrow]

she mine

[dusk sail]

:(

Thanks Berz

[forest meteor]

WHEN

[echo flint]

True, thats why I mentioned Ptero, pufferpanel, and AMP as options. You just had to jump in and say that feather would give extra latency when thats not the case at all

[vocal yarrow]

JAHHAHAHHAHAH

[forest meteor]

HUH

[vocal sierra]

i am new player :

[vocal yarrow]

HAHAHHAHA

[oak coral]

if they dont want to set up portfowrding why would they in another service you are going off worst case with players for a ping difference that has no gameplay difference and your claim that feather servers are worse then normal setting up selfhost is false by your own statments as you can set them up exactly the same please dont say it if you know and admit it isnt true

[vocal yarrow]

I CANT STOP LAUGHING

[clear tangle]

too bad she likes me back

[frank scroll]

Idk like in November and then just now

[frozen stump]

I see

[vocal yarrow]

NAH NAH WHATS HER @

[forest meteor]

😭

[stable onyx]

Reee

[vocal yarrow]

i need to know her music taste

whats her lastfm

[clear tangle]

qtluna i already gave it to u

[vocal yarrow]

HER

TYPO

[near canyon]

S egxs

[clear tangle]

i dont think she has a lastfm

[vocal yarrow]

whats her spotify

does she have a public playlist

[clear tangle]

shes an irl friend i wouldnt do her like that 🥀

[vocal sierra]

[vocal yarrow]

i lowk dont caare

dm the spotiufy link

[agile spindle]

100%
of text is likely AI
AI

Human

AI-generated

100%
Human-written & AI-refined

0%
Human-written

[clear tangle]

shes a kpop fan thats all you need to know 🙏

i showed her some glaive and she said its good

[vocal yarrow]

ill larp if i need to

[frank scroll]

You can look at mine 😔

[clear tangle]

sorry im already larping abt kpop with her

[vocal yarrow]

u dont listneto music enough

fym 19 hours ago

[clear tangle]

how does one get image perms

[vocal sierra]

faaaaaah

[vocal yarrow]

give me ur crushs @

[frank scroll]

I was asleep for like 16 hours

[vocal yarrow]

ill give u my accoutn

[solar helm]

Ty imma find your account and larp every single piece of music you’ve ever listened to

[clear tangle]

no

[vocal yarrow]

beingskipper :D

LARP

[median storm]

People don’t need to port forward on other services that’s the whole point, they give you a public IP. With Feather, if you use the proxy, there is extra routing so ping is higher. If you port forward, then yeah it’s the same as normal self-host. I’m talking about the default proxy setup, which is what most people actually use.

[vocal sierra]

@vocal yarrow @clear tangle @solar helm hy

[clear tangle]

"Your compatibility with BeingSkipper is Very High."

[vocal yarrow]

W LARPS

[solar helm]

Who are you bro.

[vocal yarrow]

follow me

il stalk ur music shit

[clear tangle]

i follow u

[oak coral]

that agian has no gameplay difference, there is no reason to chnage it as even by your numbers that are not normal there would be no gameplay difference

[vocal yarrow]

my chud larp lastfm friends 🖤

[median storm]

it can make a difference depending on connection extra routing always adds latency it might be small but saying theres no difference at all isnt true if you port forward then yeah its identical but the proxy setup can still be worse

[clear tangle]

larp larp larp sahur

[vocal yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kana-arima-yoasobi-vibe-idol-gif-3537075291355584141

[oak coral]

in mc there will be no gameplay difference and you still cant give an example of a gameplay differnce between 4ms and 20ms

[vocal sierra]

i played Minecraft with a cracked acc for 6 years. i bought a premium acc today 🙂

[clear tangle]

kana my beloved

[forest meteor]

AI is dead

[leaden terrace]

selling experince cape java bedrock dm me (only ltc)

[median storm]

20ms is still higher than 4ms its not zero difference it might not be noticeable for casual play but its still added delay especially for things like hit reg movement timing or fast interactions so saying theres no difference at all just isnt accurate

[bright bear]

let’s be real who the hell cares if feather is scamming ads bro

[vocal yarrow]

if you look in the mirror & don't like what you see, you can find out first hand what it's like to be meee

[vocal yarrow]

kana is my wife

[oak coral]

also i see you are missing a word there im saying gameplay difference yes ov the number is difference and it is techenely slow but gameplay wise from the player there is no difference there any action within the game

[clear tangle]

thought reze was ur wife 🥀

[forest meteor]

lonely

[forest meteor]

he has 9 wives

[vocal yarrow]

ID ENCOURAGE YOUR SMILES ILL EXPECT YOU ALL CRYYYYYYY

[median storm]

your saying its not noticeable but that doesnt mean theres no difference lower latency always means faster response even if its small for casual play it still affects timing and responsiveness so its not accurate to say theres no gameplay difference at all as i mentioned earlier

[forest meteor]

all of them are based on gpt 3.2

[vocal yarrow]

i mean

i like kana more tbh

[forest meteor]

thank god

[vocal yarrow]

her hair is too pretty

[clear tangle]

what about ruby

[vocal yarrow]

she is annoying

[forest meteor]

hell no

[vocal yarrow]

boring hair

[clear tangle]

what about ai then

[forest meteor]

what's ur obsession with hair

[unreal matrix]

Do I reinstall feather

[forest meteor]

dead

[vocal yarrow]

hair is so cool

u style ur hair

in many ways

[clear tangle]

"She's real to me!"

[median storm]

why?

[oak coral]

agian gameplay difference not difference you are saying that 300fps is better then 150fps but you are running on a 144hz screen no it isnt cause you cant tell the difference the number is higher but there is no practical difference in your ablity to play. mc is that 144hz screen that means even if you have 4ms you will act the same as someone with 20ms

[vocal yarrow]

ai is cool

[forest meteor]

she got stabbed to death

[vocal yarrow]

by her bf

or

[clear tangle]

no her stalker

[vocal yarrow]

something like hwat

[forest meteor]

no wtf

[clear tangle]

did you watch the show or are you larping

[vocal yarrow]

her bf helped that stalker

ex bf

[median storm]

thats not the same comparison fps is capped by your screen but latency isnt capped by anything lower ms always means faster response even if its small so its still a real difference even if you dont notice it much in normal gameplay

[forest meteor]

yes

[clear tangle]

yeah he gave the stalker her address

[forest meteor]

Hikaru

[vocal yarrow]

i read the manga unfortunately

[clear tangle]

hikaru kamiki

[vocal yarrow]

dogshit ending 💔

[clear tangle]

🥀

[vocal yarrow]

i wanted to kana and aqua together

[clear tangle]

hoping the anime changes the ending lowk

[vocal yarrow]

my poor baby

[forest meteor]

akane and aqua

[strange fossil]

FF FEAther fraud

[clear tangle]

sorry mate its gonna be ruby and aqua...

[vocal yarrow]

i am from israel and this is my fav ship

[forest meteor]

💀

[vocal yarrow]

i am from israel and this is my fav ship

[clear tangle]

*tel aviv impressed*

[strange fossil]

Stop it

[strange fossil]

67

[pale flume]

[vocal yarrow]

dawg what are ulistening 😭

[strange fossil]

Baby shark

[clear tangle]

what is diddyblud listening to

[clear tangle]

get outta here 😭

[pale flume]

Lol 😭 listening to chat

[vocal yarrow]

nah music

[strange fossil]

On my calculator

[strange fossil]

Why

[vocal yarrow]

@pale flume can u play guitar or are u larping

[pale flume]

NAHH it's ai

[forest meteor]

what did i do

[pale flume]

I can play piano

[winged pebble]

Hey brendon

[vocal yarrow]

u know music theory?

[odd wolf]

Hey!

[winged pebble]

Are you there rn?

[strange fossil]

Stop doing nothing

[odd wolf]

Finally My Client Is Out!!

[pale flume]

💀 Is it music

[winged pebble]

Dm me

[oak coral]

no they are not exactly the same but that is how analogies work what im saying is that minecraft is acting like the 144hz screen even tho there is no physical cap to it with mc there is a practically cap to how it effects the game and gameplay. the hit difference between 4ms and 20ms techenely exists but it will never have an effect on a pvp fight as both players are 100% able todo the same things why beacuse mc has a cap on how fast it can do things that leads to the difference between 4ms and 20ms being unnoticable and uneffected on gameplay

[strange fossil]

New client?

[clear tangle]

yap & larp

[forest meteor]

what

[vocal yarrow]

yo listen to i love you and it sounds stupid

[odd wolf]

No

[solar helm]

you lowk larping larpism

[forest meteor]

sus

[vocal yarrow]

alr larping boy

[clear tangle]

on your soul i will

[dull dune]

what do you guys think of the announcement?

[strange fossil]

Bro can not read english

[odd wolf]

It is very old. But it had a issue for some time

[vocal yarrow]

I WANT THIS SONG IN ME

LIKE INSIDE OF ME

[odd wolf]

Dm me If you want it, open source!

[strange fossil]

Skibidi toilet is 67x better

[forest meteor]

what

[median storm]

mc doesnt have a hard cap like a monitor latency still affects when the server registers actions even if its small 4ms vs 20ms wont change everything but in pvp or tight timing it can affect hit reg knockback or reactions slightly so saying it has zero gameplay effect just isnt accurate even if its minor as im saying for the THIRD time now

[clear tangle]

@vocal yarrow lowkey kinda calm

[vocal yarrow]

heavn''s vocal is soooo good rbu

im gonan cry

[pale flume]

Gng youre judging me over my pfp rly

[vocal yarrow]

yes

[clear tangle]

i gotta listen to ts

[vocal yarrow]

the lyrics are vbery peak

[neon yacht]

Hi

[strange fossil]

@serene lava help my bro

[vocal yarrow]

god willing would u get old with me

so peak

[strange fossil]

Bye

[solar helm]

Don’t talk in my chat again

[neon yacht]

my bad

[vocal yarrow]

bruh we just chatting

[strange fossil]

Pls talk

[sterile sand]

.

[vocal yarrow]

did yo girl leave u

are u sad?

[solar helm]

Your pfp is wonderful we should protest @vocal yarrow

[vocal yarrow]

u can cry in my arms if u want

[strange fossil]

You never have

[oak coral]

that is like arguing that a fly effected the boxing fight beaucse it was also in the ring, the difference is so small even tho techenely there that it had no noticable effect same as the difference between 4ms and 20ms hence agian no gameplay difference as while you are in game you will not notice a difference and it will not effect the outcome of your gameplay

[pale flume]

Yayay

[strange fossil]

Whynot 67ms

[pale flume]

Real

[burnt siren]

yo why there feather allegations

[neon yacht]

I think the official statement from feather is pretty confident

[pale flume]

Me?

[oak coral]

beacuse 67ms does hacve a noticable effect lmao

[vocal yarrow]

yeah

[strange fossil]

Feather is skibidi

[pale flume]

Yeh actually lol

[vocal yarrow]

LMAO

you good?

[strange fossil]

How are you partner

[burnt siren]

yeah okay

[pale flume]

Gng is It funny.....

[vocal yarrow]

it kinda is

[pale flume]

Ig

[neon yacht]

what is that question

[median storm]

thats just saying its negligible not zero the difference is still there even if its small in most cases it wont decide the outcome but its still a real gameplay difference just not a noticeable one in most cases however you said "no difference" which is just false

[strange fossil]

Are you rich?

[vocal yarrow]

are u depressed?

[strange fossil]

Gold name

[vocal yarrow]

come cry in my arms

[pale flume]

Dawg

[strange fossil]

No u pedo

[neon yacht]

why are you asking me those questions bro

[vocal yarrow]

u never had anything friends

[clear tangle]

aint skipper a minor

[vocal yarrow]

calm down

[pale flume]

Nag

[strange fossil]

me

[pale flume]

Nah Am good

[vocal yarrow]

i am 😭

[keen ruin]

a

[strange fossil]

Stop

[vocal yarrow]

make me

boy

[subtle kayak]

Haiiiii

[strange fossil]

b

[strange fossil]

girl

[median storm]

do you get paid for translating?

[vocal yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/lucy-bedroque-girls-last-tour-gif-10062179840961472000

[strange fossil]

who

[oak coral]

i think the problem here is we define gameplay difference difrently gameplay difference for me is an effect so small that it doesnt deterin the outcome of 99.99% of cases that fly can effect a boxing match but that difference 99.99% of the time wont matter. you seem to define gameplay difference by any difference that happens while playing

[next orchid]

I agree with that!

[strange fossil]

I need money

toma toma toma toma toma toma toma BAILAO +5k aura

[vocal yarrow]

@paper pecan

[strange fossil]

Why no shirt?

[vocal yarrow]

u tapped in w lucy?

[void gyro]

Yo guys

[strange fossil]

Yo

[median storm]

youre just redefining “gameplay difference” to mean only outcome changing which is way too narrow latency still affects when actions register in game even if it rarely decides fights so it is a gameplay difference youre just choosing to ignore anything small and call it zero which isnt actually true

[strange fossil]

Ai

[median storm]

yup im AI! You caught me - anything else i can assit you with?

[strange fossil]

Yes

[haughty birch]

hello everyone what we arguing ab today

[strange fossil]

Skbidi toilet episode 67

[vocal yarrow]

This my last stop, come and meet me in the night. You a princess? You know I could be ya knight

[haughty birch]

balright

[median storm]

latency difference on feather server vs fully self hosted

[strange fossil]

Good episode

[winter silo]

i just downloaded feather client is it good

[median storm]

no its trash

[haughty birch]

yo its a fellow

[strange fossil]

No rob

[haughty birch]

absolute dogshi

[median storm]

chosos unite

[strange fossil]

They mad

[haughty birch]

will hack ur mc acc and sell it on ebay for 3 dollars

[strange fossil]

Relly

[haughty birch]

no lie

[strange fossil]

Shakira shakira

[winter silo]

if u say so

[strange fossil]

I say 67 67 times

[haughty birch]

yo ts ad scandal doesnt even affect me i have an ad blocker

[median storm]

dont you even wanna know why?? you just listen to strangers online? wow

[strange fossil]

Who ask

[slow raft]

o/

[winter silo]

i really dont care what you say

[strange fossil]

Go to school

[slow raft]

im home schooled

[haughty birch]

also i heard if u drink bleach while chanting wiggos name 3 times u get a free mc acc

[strange fossil]

Why i say go to school

[median storm]

translator do you get paid?

[haughty birch]

is ts the real rappture

[strange fossil]

No eating

[vocal yarrow]

CHAT SAYAKO DROPPED

[slow raft]

no

[vocal yarrow]

TAP IN

[strange fossil]

yes

[haughty birch]

why u tryna be sum bumahh cheater then

[strange fossil]

think he cool but no cool

[winter silo]

i dont think thats gonna work

[haughty birch]

also fempuppyboy solos your ahh

genuinely the goat at mace icl

[strange fossil]

@fickle lily femboy?

[strange fossil]

Me goat

[median storm]

cause another translator has it in their bio saying they translator but like its not worth much if your not getting paid, so are you?

[haughty birch]

fempuppyboy is someone on mcpvp club whos genuinely better than rappture at mace

[strange fossil]

I eat mace

[oak coral]

no i am not, you are ttying to say you should tell poeple there was a fly in the boxing ring so the fight was unfair or bias not how that works. the chance the fly made any difference is so low that is communicates the wrong thing to say it would make a difference hence instead of saying difference i have been saying gameplay difference beacuse in the gameplay of mc you will not have 4ms and 20ms be the difference in any real none test case beacuse the chance is that low

[strange fossil]

No cool

[haughty birch]

holy yappuchino

[strange fossil]

Why

[haughty birch]

not sure what the argument was but im prtty sure ts proves nothing

[strange fossil]

Taco

Buy me

[haughty birch]

yo i didnt get to click the link before it dissapeared 🙁

[strange fossil]

Link

[median storm]

youre still mixing up “unlikely to matter” with “doesnt exist as a difference” the fly analogy doesnt remove the fact it physically changes conditions it just means the impact is negligible mc latency is the same 4ms and 20ms still changes when actions register even if it rarely affects outcomes so calling it “no gameplay difference” is inaccurate its just a very small one in most situations

[vocal yarrow]

wait why is chat filled with randoms

[haughty birch]

yo FINALLY we've been WAITING

[vocal yarrow]

where my friends at

[strange fossil]

You are not looksmaxing today

[strange fossil]

Here we friend❤️

[median storm]

dang it

[strange fossil]

Dang you

[median storm]

dang it

[strange fossil]

Ok

[oak coral]

but you are trying to say small that is like trying to say getting the same minecraft seed 2times in a row is a real thing anyone will have to every worry about it is so inprobable that it wont happen it is not somethign that will effect someone outside of test cases or throey

[heady pagoda]

Make it supported on Linux plsss

[strange fossil]

Ok

[haughty birch]

wait is cjf2 DEFENDING feather server hosting?

[strange fossil]

peglo

[heady pagoda]

How ru gna do that?

[median storm]

just use prism mc its faster lighter less bloat

[haughty birch]

wiggo

[strange fossil]

Support linux

[strange fossil]

You are

[haughty birch]

i am

[oak coral]

ye bro use prism for linux lmao

[strange fossil]

Not

[haughty birch]

huh

[strange fossil]

Not alpfha

[haughty birch]

you spelled it wrong

[strange fossil]

Who use prism

[strange fossil]

No

[oak coral]

alot of people

[strange fossil]

Goofy ahh

[clear tangle]

mb had to return to work

[blazing summit]

does the anouncement of feather about the ads fraud change erveything

[strange fossil]

Real sigma dont work

[green rune]

prism launcher + the feather jar if its still supported and boom you have feather on linux

[blazing summit]

Good type skills huh

[oak coral]

prism is fairly popular and i know atlest 50poeple personaly that use it

[strange fossil]

Blud yes

[clear tangle]

will crash saying there is no linux support

[median storm]

that comparison doesnt hold because seeds are random generation outcomes latency is always active every tick of gameplay its not a rare event it is constantly affecting timing even if the difference is small and usually unnoticeable so its not about probability its about continuous system behaviour the effect exists every time you interact with the server it just often doesnt change the result

[strange fossil]

you worng

[green rune]

interesting, i didnt have any issues

[blazing summit]

should i use it again

[oak coral]

i dont know poeple???

[strange fossil]

Use skibidi 67 client

[vocal yarrow]

your work is more important than me? 😔

[crystal meteor]

hello

[clear tangle]

probably

[vocal yarrow]

just say u hate me

[strange fossil]

Only in ohio

[blazing summit]

im not 8 like u

[vocal yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hmph-hmph-anime-tsundere-gif-25758864

[crystal meteor]

Habibi, love you you are you love girl hello girl

[oak coral]

it is a misrepersentation to say it effects someone as it doesnt outside of test cases or thorey

[strange fossil]

You are 67 old

[clear tangle]

"I'm not a dere, a tsu-tsu-ndere!"

[blazing summit]

brainrotted 8 year old

[strange fossil]

Rizz

[oak coral]

well ye i dont know anyone in ohio as i have never been

[quartz sandal]

guys what are your thoughts on the drama?

[clear tangle]

Are we back in the pandemic?

[quartz sandal]

innocent or guilty?

[vocal yarrow]

what if i am

[median storm]

it still affects timing in real gameplay even if it rarely changes outcomes calling it a misrepresentation goes too far because the effect is real its just usually too small to notice or matter in most situations so its more accurate to say it has a minimal impact rather than no impact at all

[clear tangle]

spill issue

[vocal yarrow]

not saying i am

[fresh hatch]

Rage bait was never that good.

[vocal yarrow]

just saying

what if

i happen

to be a

tsundere

[blazing summit]

Wiggo shu up u brainrotted 8 year old

[clear tangle]

you are a tsundere, skipper

[oak coral]

unclear, they dont have it anymore and they have proven that but idk if they will never be able to prove they didnt do it

[strange fossil]

Goofy ahh

[vocal yarrow]

I NEVER SAID THAT

stop putting words in my mouth

[clear tangle]

i stole the words from your brain

[vocal yarrow]

youre calling me skipper

are u an alt

[oak coral]

no rarely practly never the timing is so small that it doesnt effect people hence it misrepsernsts it as a problem or something that will effects poeples gameplay

[vocal yarrow]

what was ur old username

[clear tangle]

no your name is literally skipper

[strange fossil]

Did you pray today?

[vocal yarrow]

yes

but people dotn call me that

[clear tangle]

idk someone called you skipper so im calling you skipper

[fresh hatch]

It’s your discord user name. It could’ve been random😭

[strange fossil]

In 2026 you say this🤣

[vocal yarrow]

okay fair

but are u an alt

[blazing summit]

Guys should i still ise feather client

[median storm]

it only becomes misleading if you present it like it meaningfully changes gameplay in most fights but saying it has zero effect isnt accurate either because the timing difference still exists and can matter in edge cases so the correct way to say it is it has a small and USUALLY unnoticeable impact not that it has none

[vocal yarrow]

what was ur old user

[clear tangle]

no

[median storm]

no

[green rune]

no

[clear tangle]

i had an older alias but theres no way i coulda known u on there

[oak coral]

yes it is more accurate to say it has very very low impact but poeple dont communicate that way, language is about commincaution and the way you are saying is misrepersenting it as a real problem that someone will face when it is not you are commincating the wrong thing

[vocal yarrow]

what was it

[clear tangle]

refactoring

[fresh hatch]

Just use what you want😭

[vocal yarrow]

you had any nicks?

[clear tangle]

nah

[fresh hatch]

Adopting TikTok opinions or opinions from the internet is never good. Use what you like most and what works for you.

[clear tangle]

i think i joined the feather cord like once to clown on them when it released

[oak coral]

you did respernst it as that you said that feather servers are worse beacuse when you connected to the proxy you got 20ms instead of the say 4ms you would on your server you diractly misrepersented it to say feather was worse

[blazing summit]

but is it gonna go evil mode and steal all of our accounts and sell it to indian scammers in india

[green rune]

the evidence is pretty rock solid from the vid ngl no tiktok opinions needed

[fresh hatch]

They most probably won’t.

[blazing summit]

i dont give a shi about ads

[median storm]

youre mixing two different setups again i didnt say feather servers are always worse i said the proxy adds extra routing so it can increase ping compared to direct self host and if you port forward then its the same as normal self hosting so the point was not feather is worse overall but that the default proxy path can add latency compared to direct connection

[fresh hatch]

Then you can still use feather👍

[vocal yarrow]

hmm

so u did join before

[median storm]

what do you give a shi about then

[fresh hatch]

I’m ruining 4ms on some servers on feather. It isn’t that deep.

[green rune]

just use og minecraft launcher and self host a server using the official minecraft server jar yolo

[strange fossil]

Very beta

[rough spear]

proxies are designed to optimize routing as much as possible, there's barely a delay compared to direct connections

[green rune]

[paper pecan]

I saw

[median storm]

if youre on 4ms then youre basically already on a direct or very close connection so in that case yeah there is basically no practical difference but that doesnt change the fact that the proxy path can increase ping for other setups so it depends on how its being used and by who

[vocal yarrow]

ur goat is done

[green rune]

holy yappacino

[strange fossil]

No rizz

Sorry

[paper pecan]

go youre so dumb

[median storm]

they can optimize routing but they still add an extra hop compared to direct connection so there is still some added latency even if its small in good cases it might be barely noticeable but its not exactly the same as direct connection in all situations

[paper pecan]

nine is a pedo

[fresh hatch]

Most servers you play on run on a proxy. The difference is so small if there’s even any that it rly isn’t an issue.

[vocal yarrow]

WHATTTTT

[paper pecan]

yes

[strange fossil]

you mean @vocal yarrow

[vocal yarrow]

thank god i was never a fan

[median storm]

its not an issue but what i was arguing for is that there is difference when you fully self host

[acoustic salmon]

Yo what`s good NGa?

[dense forge]

Hello

[strange fossil]

Hi bro

[blazing summit]

fps

[strange fossil]

Simp

[vocal yarrow]

@steep moon nuke this guy

[median storm]

prism has less bloat so use that instead

[clear tangle]

yes

[strange fossil]

No i not wrong sorry

?

[fresh hatch]

Self hosting a sever on your pc is mostly a waste at this point. If you run it on a proper machine it won’t be an issue.

[oak coral]

bro this started from you claiming not to use feather servers cause self hosting was better, mainly beacuse when you conect to the feather proxy you get 20ms(you issue i get about 10ms with it idk prob region diff) you then dropped the claim that feather was worse cause someone proved that you can edit the proxy you shifted your statment to saying under default settings whatever. but now you are saying that i am wrong beacuse in this 1 edge case that will not happen it makes the tinyest difference. your statment is incosistent and has shifted you are claiming something that diractly misrepersents the real diff and are now when called out on it trying to say you didnt make any claim at all

[rough spear]

the difference is negligible

[limber fulcrum]

@steep moon how are u

[median olive]

how to kink my acc

[limber fulcrum]

Damn she blocked me

[median olive]

nvm

[limber fulcrum]

Oop

[median storm]

circumstantial and deppends on set up so not always

[rough spear]

set up of what

[strange fossil]

Blud

[distant sequoia]

yo guys

[median storm]

self hosting isnt a waste it just depends on what youre using it for if its a small server with friends it can be fine and basically the same as other setups but yeah if you want stability performance and no hassle then a proper hosted machine is usually better especially for more players or 24 7 uptime

[distant sequoia]

is feather hacking usi

[limber fulcrum]

Hey excuse me, can I ask u a favour

[distant sequoia]

im so confused about the announcements

[fresh hatch]

If it’s a small serve it’s better to just use some free alternatives like the A word.

Server*

[distant sequoia]

use mcsh

[strange fossil]

🥵

[hushed gorge]

I mean as long as you know basic linux you should be able to host on like a $5 server

[median storm]

youre mixing up what i said i never said feather is always worse i said the proxy can add extra routing so it can increase ping /latency compared to direct self hosting and that is still true under default setup if you port forward then its the same as normal self host i have not changed that point the only thing being discussed is whether that extra routing has any effect and it does even if its small so nothing is inconsistent here its just you interpreting it as me saying feather is always worse which i didnt say

[hushed gorge]

in like datalix or something cheap af

[strange fossil]

Sussy

[vocal yarrow]

what

[hushed gorge]

Some sites even give free VPS servers, I had one which gave 8gb ram servers for 2 boosts but ive lost it

[fresh hatch]

Hosting a Minecraft barely requires any Linux knowledge.

[oak coral]

that depends on use case lmao, if im lunching a quick server to play on with friends for a few hours it is helpful but for big or long term servers then yes ov use a real server

[hushed gorge]

Enough to create a screen to make it easy to administrate and install dependencies

[fresh hatch]

It’s so easy to do that hosting it on your on pc feels like a waste to me.

[paper pecan]

[hushed gorge]

Thats why I said basic

[median storm]

setup of your network and server hosting like whether youre self hosting on your pc port forwarding using a proxy or running it on a dedicated hosted machine all of those change latency stability and performance so the impact depends on which of those youre using

[dry matrix]

Is the feather blog bullshit

didn't care to read

[hushed gorge]

hosting on pc is basically impossible because I barely see ISPs giving dedicated ips

[wheat rose]

no the vid was full propaganda

[vocal yarrow]

yeah

[limber fulcrum]

Just realised, we both know turtle if u look in our mutuals. I just wanted to ask if you know fitermil here, I think she was active. So if u do please can u let her know that I stopped by to say hi.

[median storm]

free alternatives arent automatically better it depends on what you mean by better self hosting gives you full control and no restrictions while free hosts often have limits on performance uptime or features so for some use cases self hosting is actually the better option especially if your setup is decent

[vocal yarrow]

whole lotta nothing

[fresh hatch]

Bro just either opt out of a free hosting service or a cheap one for friend smps.

[strange fossil]

Npc

[vocal yarrow]

this is funny

[wheat rose]

lol no

[fresh hatch]

Also if you’re playing with friends 10-30 extra ping is irrelevant.

[strange fossil]

[hushed gorge]

Nothing wrong w that

[burnt pagoda]

What happened to the partner who had an aura of water droplets?

[wheat rose]

thats literally the most normal statement

[strange fossil]

No rizz lose aura

[dry matrix]

ah okay I mean that's usual for anyone to say when they're being alleged of something

[median storm]

free or cheap hosting isnt always better self hosting gives more control and can perform just as well depending on your setup so its not a one size fits all solution

[burnt pagoda]

what?

[dry matrix]

so a nothing burger

[vocal yarrow]

yeah

it doesnt explain the wc.setbackgroundthrottling(false) thing

[strange fossil]

Fanum tax

[vocal yarrow]

its the same old video

[strange fossil]

Yes

[fresh hatch]

It gives control you don’t need to host a small friend smp.

[limber fulcrum]

Did u see my message, or choose to ignore it? I dont want to be a pain

[dry matrix]

lmao

[burnt pagoda]

I don't understand you

[vocal yarrow]

i saw it

[fresh hatch]

And the effort just isn’t worth the reward in my opinion.

[vocal yarrow]

why dont u just dm her

[crystal meteor]

Hihihihihiho

[limber fulcrum]

Does she type here

[vocal yarrow]

yeah sometimes

[limber fulcrum]

She blocked me, we didnt really end on great terms

[crystal meteor]

No

[strange fossil]

Ok

[median storm]

you dont need it no but that doesnt mean its pointless some people prefer control mods configs or just running it locally without relying on a third party so it depends on what you value not just server size so to say "dont need" is a bit far

[crystal meteor]

I am girl

[strange fossil]

Unc

[burnt pagoda]

What happened to the partner who had an aura of water droplets?

[vocal yarrow]

then i dont think she wants to know that u said hi

[quiet zephyr]

No one asked

[sand jungle]

What do u thing abt the ad polemic?

[strange fossil]

Let him cook

[rough spear]

you're trying to find a needle in a haystack with your way of thinking, using a proxy is plenty of times more reliable, even if you're choosing to host for your friends, given it brings much more stability, and you can choose the location of your host (most of the times). also port forwarding to about 90% of the people that try it is just not optimal, as you'd need to set up tcpshields to avoid throttling your received packets from incoming connections, as well as configuring your firewall correctly to avoid bad packets spreading to your connection and causing spikes which could end up affecting the entire host

in conclusion, your pc is not optimal for anything, so let the professionals handle it

[limber fulcrum]

I understand, no worries

Thankyou for your time

[strange fossil]

Goted with sauce

[fresh hatch]

If by professionals you mean third parties you work with when buying a mc server I wouldn’t leave nothing up to them.

[sharp needle]

this statement is so bad

[fresh hatch]

Hosting services suck most of the time

Also are horribly overpriced.

[rough spear]

im talking about proxies, not vps providers

proxies are very cheap

[median storm]

a proxy isnt automatically more reliable it just shifts where the server is hosted and can still add its own routing issues self hosting also isnt “unusable” most people can run a small smp fine without needing tcpshield level setup firewalls and port forwarding are basic networking not some extreme barrier and saying every pc is not optimal is just an overgeneralisation it depends entirely on the use case and setup not a blanket rule

[fresh hatch]

If you want a small server for friends and nothing more then hosting services work just fine and mostly better than self host.

[fresh hatch]

Yall are arguing over nothing rn.

[opal musk]

lowkey i think tebex cutting off feather is messed up tbh

[tender egret]

@austere willow

[fresh hatch]

For a small friend smp anything works.

Standards aren’t high.

[tender egret]

@austere willow

[median storm]

yeah pretty much its just different setups with tradeoffs so it depends what youre trying to do

[mighty palm]

Guys how to get verified

[untold minnow]

Please refer yourself to #💸┃redeem-cloak for instructions on redeeming the Discord cloak

[fresh hatch]

If you wanna start an actual server self hosting isn’t an option unless you got crazy budget and even then it’s overkill.

[strange fossil]

@austere willow

[warped void]

Does feather client support java / bedrock crossplay?

[mighty sinew]

@sullen ember add me on discord if ur cool and nice

[strange fossil]

Only in ohio

[dry matrix]

https://x.com/i/status/2049485551468720433

汤姆 🇷🇪 (@tomlwsmc)

Feather client posted a response video and have Claude opened
They are not beating the vibe coded allegations

X · Apr 29, 2026, 1:46 PM

Lmao

[mighty palm]

@fresh hatch can u help me know how to get verified on the discord server

[untold minnow]

Please refer yourself to #💸┃redeem-cloak for instructions on redeeming the Discord cloak

[warped void]

fr tho, does it?

[median storm]

that’s not really true self hosting is still an option it just doesnt scale well for bigger public servers small to medium servers can run fine on decent home setups the real difference is convenience and scalability not that self hosting is impossible or invalid

[fresh hatch]

Click on your profile Icon in the launcher

You can link socials there

[mighty palm]

I alr linked discord

[rough spear]

i dont get what your point is, didnt you start by saying that feather's proxy system has "more latency" than a regular self host

this just seems like a nothing burger

[mighty palm]

I alr linked discord

[olive river]

Father Client when??

[fresh hatch]

You’d have to invest into a dedicated machine if you’d want to host a public server.

Your pc won’t cut it.

[fresh hatch]

Then just wait Ig

[marble stream]

dwag i switched from feather to lunar and i got like a 400 fps boots

[mighty palm]

I linked it around the first day of april

[fresh hatch]

Try relinking.

No idea why you haven’t gotten it.

[mighty palm]

Hmm ok

[wooden violet]

should I switch to lunar chat?

[mighty palm]

NO

[fresh hatch]

Just use what works for you.

[vocal yarrow]

HAHHA

[median storm]

yeah and my point still stands the proxy can add extra routing compared to direct self hosting thats it im not saying its some massive difference or that feather is bad just that its not identical to direct connection so it depends on setup and what you’re comparing there is no contradiction here just different scenarios being discussed

[fresh hatch]

Hosting on your own setup can do a lot of a bad things.

Everything can go bad

Don’t mean it will.

[median storm]

not true a dedicated machine is only needed for larger or heavily populated public servers a normal pc can run small to medium servers just fine especially for friends the main limits are player count and internet upload not some requirement for dedicated hardware

[strange fossil]

Dawg

[fresh hatch]

A proper public server with plugins won’t run over 5 players lag free on your pc unless you restrict yourself.

[median storm]

that applies to every hosting method not just self hosting free and paid servers can also break or lag so saying everything can go bad isnt a point against self hosting it just depends on setup scale and how well its maintained

[fresh hatch]

Assuming you have an average setup.

[warped void]

?

[dreamy knot]

E

[strange fossil]

FR

Blud

[median storm]

not true at all depends on hardware and setup not a fixed 5 player limit a decent pc can handle more than that fine especially for small plugins so its not inherently restricted like that

[fresh hatch]

You’re saying proxies can add latency.

If done right they won’t

Or they’ll add an insignificant amount.

[modern creek]

Why did feather remove the prompt that tells you that closing the launcher while the game is running will also close the game

Why was that a feature in the first place

[rough spear]

extra routing doesnt always mean more latency though. as a matter of fact, the route proxies take to allow outside connections is more optimized (even by just a little) than whatever your router could handle at home. not to mention playercounts can generate instability at any given time, and proxies handle these by querying more processing power to handle the amount of packets that the playercount brings

[median storm]

it still adds routing even if small and it can vary so its not guaranteed to be insignificant and its still not the same as direct connection it depends on setup not a fixed no difference scenario

[fresh hatch]

I don’t think you understand how heavy a proper public server can get

[grand meadow]

cus that doesnt even happen

[strange fossil]

Dont be a karen

[modern creek]

Then why did it prompt

[fresh hatch]

Self hosting is dependent on setup as a whole.

[grand meadow]

to farm ad revenue

[scarlet shell]

hello

[dark kestrel]

it prompts but doesnt do anything once u close it

[strange fossil]

Hi

[median storm]

extra routing can be optimized but it doesnt guarantee lower latency and its still not identical to a direct connection it depends on the network and location so saying proxies are always better is just as wrong as saying theyre always worse also handling player load is a separate issue from routing latency so youre mixing two different problems

[fresh hatch]

You can’t run a proper public server without a proxy.

[median storm]

a proper public server being heavy doesnt mean self hosting is impossible or automatically bad thats just scale not a rule a small server on decent hardware can still run fine so its not a blanket “your pc cant handle it” situation its just different use cases

[fresh hatch]

Idk what with this hate on em

[strange fossil]

Guys

[fresh hatch]

A small server.

How small.

[median storm]

you can run a public server without a proxy proxies are just one method for handling connections at scale they help with ddos protection routing and load but they are not a requirement for a server to exist or function

[cosmic meadow]

yo anyone got an smp servere that got only like 20 ppl or 30? vanilla tho

[median storm]

like a few friends maybe 2 to 10 players depending on your pc and internet and how many plugins or mods youre running

[fresh hatch]

A proper public server usually have multiple game modes that are on a proxy.

[fresh hatch]

That isn’t a public server

That’s a friend smp.

[tropic dove]

i run a 50 coactive member mc server WITH spigot plugins and works perfectly smooth, its running on my old laptop, an intel core i5 11th gen and 6gb of ram dedicated to the server

[fresh hatch]

How many game modes/minigames does it have ?

[median storm]

yeah thats common for larger networks but thats about scaling and architecture not a requirement for all servers a single mode public server can still run fine without a proxy proxies are just used when you need to split load or manage multiple servers not because its impossible otherwise

[tropic dove]

its a SMP, so just one

[fresh hatch]

That’s why.

If you have direct connection to one server

It works

[vital pivot]

Feather client is cooked bro

[fresh hatch]

You can run a small 50 players server.

[tropic dove]

DashElector is cooked bro

[fresh hatch]

But when you scale up you’ll need variety and you’ll resort to using a proxy.

[median storm]

a public server just means anyone can join it doesnt have to be a big network with multiple game modes small public servers still exist and can be run on simple setups the difference is scale not whether its “proper” or not but i did mean people not friends mb

[rough spear]

i never said that proxies were better just because of their latency. also handling player load is the same as handling packets, which is in turn the same as handling lower or higher traffic through network, so yes, "routing latency" (which i assume you mean handling the delay between pings) does have to do with handling player load. proxies do handle traffic differently and in a more sophisticated way than a home router, so it's not "mixing two different problems"

[strange fossil]

No cap

[fresh hatch]

I wouldn’t consider any server public under a 60-120 average players mark.

For 10 players it’s more just a niche open server.

[median storm]

packet handling and routing latency are still different issues load handling is about throughput and stability while latency is about travel time between client and server a proxy can improve traffic management but it does not automatically reduce physical routing delay compared to a direct connection so they are related in practice but not the same problem

[opal musk]

@sullen ember why are you lying and saying ad_ran was ran for 1.5 hours, it was only ran 1 minute and 14 minutes.
you can literally watch the clock of the video and see it only move a minute. i dont get how you interpret it as an hour

[fresh hatch]

Running on a proxy for one server isn’t worth it if that’s what yall were yapping about.

[median storm]

thats just your definition public means open to anyone size doesnt change that a 10 player server is still public just small scale not a different category

[solemn scroll]

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[fresh hatch]

If server isn’t being promoted or advertised it can’t be found by the public or unlikely for it to be found by the public.

Just already existing players inviting their friends.

I personally just wouldn’t define it as a public Minecraft server.

[median storm]

that still doesnt change what public means a server can be public and open to join even if nobody knows about it visibility and being public are different things something not advertised is still technically public just not discovered

[opal musk]

honestly drama over click fraud is just so dumb

[median storm]

youre just changing the definition to fit your point public doesnt mean popular or well known it just means open access if anyone can join it is public whether it has 5 players or 5000 so your definition is just subjective not technical

[fresh hatch]

I was talking about planning to run a proper public server not a friend smp.

[quaint rose]

Yeah this hurts the users in no way lol

[fresh hatch]

A proper public server would require you to put in the effort to get more players.

[median storm]

that still doesnt change the point a proper public server isnt defined by size or structure its defined by open access and scale can range a lot you keep shifting it to mean only large networks but that isnt the only valid form of a public server

[agile osprey]

hehehe

[solemn scroll]

Attention seeking I see

[median storm]

getting more players is about growth not whether the server is “proper” or public a server can be fully public from day one with zero players and still be a proper server so effort to advertise is unrelated to whether it counts as public or not

[opal musk]

yeah, i feel like bandwidth consumption at worse. click fraud is very very common in the ad industry too btw

[fresh hatch]

If your ip isn’t posted anywhere it isn’t exactly public.

Simone would have to be invited to it by being sent the ip by one of the members of it.

[opal musk]

every advertiser know that their ads will be filled with click fraud. they only purchase ads for brand recognition most of the time

[fresh hatch]

It would qualify more for a private one at that point.

[median storm]

it still is public if anyone you give the ip to can join public doesnt mean listed or advertised it just means open access unlisted doesnt equal private it just means not discoverable

[fresh hatch]

People just need something to complain and be mad about.

This is an issue for the people paying them for said ads.

[whole crane]

tbh it doesn’t even effect the daily user if anything is lowers ads

[opal musk]

the entire ad industry knows that they have to deal with click fraud btw

[solemn scroll]

#📢┃announcements message

[fresh hatch]

There’s no point in arguing with anyone about it.

[vocal yarrow]

NEW MIXTAPE CHAT

[fresh hatch]

Most people just follow the first opinion they saw

Everyone was harassing feather discord staff before feather even had the chance to respond.

[clear tangle]

itunes

[median storm]

being invite only can make it feel private but technically its still just an unlisted public server if there are no restrictions and anyone with the ip can join it is still public access just not discoverable through listing or advertising

[vocal yarrow]

love the tunes

[fresh hatch]

Still leans more towards private at that point.

[opal musk]

i feel like lunar client does very predatory marketing towards their competitors when they get into any type of drama
(e.x #byebadlion and feather client ad fraud)

[fresh hatch]

Even so the terms used are irrelevant.

My point is that if you want to run an actual server

Not a small thing

Something for revenue.

A proxy will be needed sooner or later most likely.

[opal musk]

lunar client does not care abt ad fraud or the victims of the owners of badlion. they only see dollar signs in their eyes

[chilly grotto]

@subtle kayak @vocal yarrow still no role?

[fresh hatch]

They went after feathers partners

[vocal yarrow]

😭

[subtle kayak]

No lmao

[fresh hatch]

They said that anyone who doesn’t break contact with feather won’t have a chance to ever work with lunar in the future.

[chilly grotto]

buddy shut up

[median storm]

youre mixing scale and definition again terms arent irrelevant they literally define what youre talking about revenue servers and small servers are different use cases a proxy is useful at scale but not required for a server to exist or function so saying its needed sooner or later is only true if youre actually scaling up not for running a normal server

[opal musk]

seems very monopolistic tbh

[vocal yarrow]

let me join bbg

[carmine barn]

My heart says feather is legit but my eyes tell me otherwise!

[fresh hatch]

They were very agressive about it and attacking people that even if feather was in the wrong they had nothing to do with it.

[vocal yarrow]

i need egirls

[topaz lodge]

Does anyone have here a extra account plzz today is my birthday

[fresh hatch]

It was in bad faith.

[carmine barn]

💀

[fresh hatch]

Also feather doesn’t give me the scammy vibe.

[rough spear]

alright i guess we're going into technicism, so ill set the record.
latency is not just "travel time between client and server", latency is a sum of: routing inefficiency (bad ISP peering or indirect paths), queueing delays, packet loss, retransmissions, handshake overheads due to varying TCP/TLS setups, jitter buffering, and server overload causing slow response times.
a well placed proxy (which you can usually consult location and conditions before putting money into one) CAN reduce "physical routing delay", which i assume you're referring to latency. a proxy can reduce the amount of hops through badly peered networks by using different trusted providers to create much more efficient connections through backbone routing; a proxy can also provide recover packet loss that could have been caused by inefficient routes, by instead splitting routes into segments which had been preconfigured by the provider. your distinction between "throughput" and "latency" is just not true, given that in networks they are heavily interconnected

[fresh hatch]

Usually you get to see it based from how high ranked staff act.

[rough spear]

w yap by me

[carmine barn]

even if it is its blody good for a scamming operation

[median storm]

holy get ready for a yap back then

[chilly grotto]

nope, you'll ruin my aura

[fresh hatch]

But Brendan was very understanding towards partners if they wanted to leave or pause the partnership.

[topaz lodge]

Plz it's my birthday guysss plzz??

[vocal yarrow]

LET ME JOIN

[fresh hatch]

Lunar was being overly aggressive and going after innocent bystanders while feather was willing to shield their partners trough it.

[vocal yarrow]

brendon is chill

even after doing all this

he still chill

physci is just annoying as shit

[opal musk]

honestly with them losing tebex and they can prove that feather wasn't engaging in ad fraud, i think feather should take lunar to court for anti-competitive practices tbh. literally getting your only funding cutted because of lunar will cost you a ton of damages

[median storm]

youre overcomplicating it to blur the core point latency still includes physical routing time and a proxy cannot remove that it can optimise routes sometimes but it also adds its own hop so its not automatically lower or equivalent in all cases throughput and latency are related in networking but they are still different metrics so saying they are the same is incorrect the simple point is direct connection vs proxy depends on route quality not a guaranteed improvement either way

[fresh hatch]

Tebex cut em out to avoid damages.

It was the right move

Everyone was angry. And feather was still thinking of how to respond.

After everything calms down they’ll get tebex back.

[fresh hatch]

If yall wanna run a proper server just get a good machine and host your own proxy on it.

Works just fine and you won’t run into any issues.

[forest egret]

hey chat in all fairness feather is a lunar rip off like it or not.

[fresh hatch]

Also ain’t even hard to do.

[light pebble]

hilo

[fresh hatch]

And lunar is a badlion rip off.

Just because something came first doesn’t mean it’s original.

They are different in their own ways.

[rough spear]

the cases in which direct connections are better than proxies are extremely rare, even with few friends, unless every single one of your friends live close by

[forest egret]

holy cope lol

[rough spear]

and i think your conception of routes is a bit wrong, do you think routes are just a straight line to the target?

[near bane]

when is 26.2 coming out for feather

[fresh hatch]

You’re free to have an opinion just said mine.

[brisk wharf]

flabadabazalright

[median storm]

thats just an overgeneralisation it depends entirely on routing and region not a blanket rule direct connection is often already optimal for small groups because theres no extra hop or intermediary so its not rare its just situation dependent not “proxies are almost always better”

[fresh hatch]

Anyway I’m out.

[opal musk]

if tebex did cut them out for a unfair reason, that isn't a smart decision tbh

it might be good PR wise but its bad legal wise idk

[brisk wharf]

[steady solar]

I actually agree, they should sue Lunar for defaming them. Maybe they should sue everyone who did their own research and has a brain that realizes this is all just lies that Brendan has been spewing.

[median storm]

no routes are not a straight line but that doesnt change the point a proxy is still an extra hop in the path even if routing is complex sometimes it improves sometimes it doesnt so its not automatically better just because internet routing is indirect already

[steady solar]

I love that he tagged everyone about this, this is all going to blow up in his face

No evidence in his statement, just "nah I didnt do it"

[opal musk]

i hope all minecraft clients fall inshallah