#💬┃talk
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the whitelist command be like:
I'm pretty sure there is no good reason to not do an interview
hi ted
unless ofc your mic is "broken"
Some people are so nervous of talking in vcs
I had to build up a lot of confidence to talk to random people on discord as a first lol
Idk why but it looks so satisfying 😭
oh I forgot to consider that
well then they're not fit to be staff 🤷🏻
Yeah
I might be wrong but I think staffs have some sort of vc meetings
Idk if I’m allowed to say anything about that
Is feather client safe??
Yeah
none of the staff (excluding devs and owners) know what i sound like
Ive heard some bad stiff abt it so thats why i asked
No is evil
💔💔
Feather network isn’t
And it’s very big
Whats that
It’s a scam server
Could u explain
damn u shy or somth? 😭
I mean I'll just assume u have a noticable french accent when speaking English
i do
And what do these so called clients do???
well then I think I can imagine how you'd sound like
though it's not as bad as some people
They are mods for PvP and info and stuff
wait do u have the stereotypical french accent or just a hint of accent
Ehhhh idk about how much fps gets boosted
Ohh doesnt like curse forge also have em?

no clue
But you have to find every mod and add them
Feather has them inbuilt
they do
i do try to avoid having the french accent
sometimes
pronounce squirrel
Fair point does feather also have like every mod???
All mods on modrinth you can download on feather
Or most
no feather doesnt have every single mod
And in ur opinion whats the best client
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depends on preferences
Could u explain
How?
that's subjective
do u actually pronounce it like that? 😭🙏🏻
feather has like a built in modrinth site in it
Ohh
we don't get taught how to pronounce words
Could u guys gimme like the options and differences between them
Oohhh okay
Just to let you know ppl here are probably going to be biased to feather
mhm 
lunar and feather are the top clients
bro, noone has answeared my ticket yet, it gone hours
Yeah i get u
What are the differences?
which way do u pronounce squirrel
- SKWIR-uhl
- skweer-EL or skweer-ell
And whats like better?
i don't, it's easier that way
Mods are different sometimes fps is different and more
Ohh fair
but tbf I do have a very noticeable swedish accent when speaking french 💀🙏🏻
for me feather is better lunar has bugs for me not for others
Ohhhh okayy
Thank you for this info
hi
it truly depends on your liking
bye
the best way
is to jus try both
a
i saw u said
dharmann ah
i dont watch dharman though
Alr ill give em a try
What if im mute or deaf
R u joking about me?😂
Why did you want to apply for feather staff if you like badlion more lol
You should apply to them
okay
Well I use blc for 1.8 and Feather for other versions
Moonsworth bought blc
And i dont like lc that much
okay i hopefully gonna try to finish houses and decorate the dock tonight
got some ideas for other buildings as well
any feathers here?
..?
Heeee?
What lol
Shut up loser
lol
is feather for fabric better than the normal one
I like the launcher better
guess what
nobody cares what u like
except me
Aw man.
im the only true friend you have

so you should gift me nitro ❤️
Holy yappity yap
okay thanks guys
@cosmic cargo when am i getting nitro
When pigs fly
technoblade is in heaven
some could say he flew to heaven
so
thanks
When you fly
I mean when you jump its basically flying
You can fly
Get an elytra
He didn't mention if you have to do it irl or in game
true
Nuhuh
also true
Im broke
Y
Ok ok
convince @subtle kayak to gift me nitro
@subtle kayak pay up
I HATE dancing
@subtle kayak if you don't gift me nitro lnyn will abuse his perms and ban you from feather
@cosmic cargo is that aight?
I can i think
i don't actually want nitro btw
im js messing around
i hate nitro
no take backs
its alright, thanks tho
Curseforge paying enough now
you're just poor
woah
admit it
dang thats something
what the hell is that grok from x
I can buy it for 12 years rn lol
cap
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
yeah it is
Show him the card you used
@tired heath this guy needs nitro
fire
E.g. i still have all my orders on my card
Id love some credits
how much is curseforge paying you 😭
depends on downloads
Just earning them
leak the income 🤑
Nqh
drop the link pooks
I can leak you my card with 0.1 USD that expres this fall
Just dont transfer IT all on the card
Since curseforge makes online ones that are like 7 months
Til they expire
i mean leak how much money you made 🤑
@dry matrix yo
hello how are you
Howdy
fr
they have alr said they wont do it so stop asking
someone wants to play a tournament with me
linux
[12:36]
please
[12:36]
feather
[12:36]
!!!!
12:36
Please don’t say that
tell him to stop then
It’s not against the rules
hes asking like every day even tho u guys have said it wont happen
whenever im on i see atleast 1 message of him asking
He’s sent 7 messages
js tell him to stop its been said by the owner and everything that linux wont happen yet he asks and hes been told abt it
Im sure he’s aware now
watch him say it again in like an hour or smth
A man can't even talk about chemicals anymore
sa
Chemical fact: salt is very tasty despite being made from 2 chemicals that are not tasty
gulps from getting scared of salt
can someone help me with setting up my feather
!help
Please use the appropriate channels to receive support.
- Check #1098503726232244284 to see if the issue you are experiencing is in there.
- Check out https://news.feathermc.com/how-to-debug-crashing-client-issues/
- Head into #🤝┃community-help and explain the issue.
- #📩┃create-ticket and explain your issue, then wait for staff to assist you.
__Note: Do not ping any staff, please be patient. __
sauce
👋
do campfires emit light?
yea..
can someoe help me
oh sweet
i cant log in into my account
send a pic #📸┃community-media
if u wanna
does mac feather above .5 just not work
i turned on my lights and it flew away sadly
aw damn :(
its just a black screen
New pfp
yesyes
the next step:
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good song but i hope that moth doesn't get burned
it was orange if im not blind
with black
dont ping staff please
I have a question tho
Cute
are you staff?
No but I could try helping
then no because I was try to ask a staff for if I became staff if they can vouch for me just incase
trust me if ur app is good enough you dont need vouches. plus unless they know you (or if they're kaimson when hes happy for some reason lmao) they wont vouch
0 messages in #🤝┃community-help, 7 messages in #💬┃talk
i doubt anyone would vouch for you
also you already managed to break the rules in the first 8 messages you sent
how..
well you tell me, you're the one that broke them, not me
idk im sorry it was accidental
yes you did
there's LFT thing on official minecraft server
My ranked teammates
if im not wrong
You lose
Yes
You'd win with me
Cus I'm the goat at games
Actually I'm just okay
But that's better than most
Can anyone give mein a primium acc 🙂T-T
no, buy it yourself
🥲
Cost ?
if you buy me a car then ill get you a minecraft account
Can you play overwatch
No.
Toy car 👽
if its a 30k usd toy car then sure
🥲
How much a primium acc cost ???
2500rs ?
Can we split the car
Then ur useless
sure go grab a kitchen knife
looking for a team
Okay yey 💗
hi
The reason why it's so hot in Africa is because they do not havea large air conditioning dome
why i dont get free cape for discord
Ya for a server my friend made
i found out how
#🤝┃community-help is the correct place btw.
pls tell me
did u check ur cosmetics in mc lol
which one
yup and i dont have it
which bug fix is it?
did u check the launcher or in game
Repair version in launcher settings
- Head to the launcher and the settings button in the bottom left
- Scroll down until you see the "Repair Game" section
- Select the version you want and click "Repair"
it says error....
.
restart u pc
that will fix it?
in luncher
think
alright thanks
load ur game and look at the ingame cosmetics it should be there
why u doing ts here go to #🤝┃community-help bruh
now i have it thanks my lovee
guys some random guy needed me for a tournament in the fake feather network server and uh he didnt know he was getting hacked how do i help him
noone is helping and this guy is in main chat, so ima speak to him thank you.
then you and him go to it, this channel is not for help thats what community-help is for, so go there.
give it a rest wannabe staff.
should be in community help.
how about u just shut the hell up ur the ones who are having a fullon convo about it here rather than community help me and that guy said like 5 things
your not moaning at him i see, because you can fix his issue and you don't know mine, so wait.
hahah shush
Hi
yo
Just waiting for the day when I can work at Tesla and add proximity chat to cars
ah yes slaughter, devour, hunt, massacre, betray, manipulate, suffocate, torment, rot, annihilate, etc...
all themes present in ratatouille
slaughter
also present
explain
i bet that guy was a serial killer tbh
its canon
its in the lore
huh 😭
ok let's say cannibalistic titans.
I don't think anybody ate people in that movie
you do NOT know what happened post-credits.. :(
e
there is no 😭
I don't think Remy wiped out 80% of human population 😭
Hi im back
the collassol titan attacked in the cut post credits scene
im sure of it
hihi
Idk why im on dc late i just like it
wow so there's a Levi Rat?? 🫨
yes there is. wasn't present for the events of the film though
I feel like a bat
Let me taste my blood and see if i like it
Pov:me does it 10 minutes later im sick
I was jk when i said this
I have found it the ultimatie youtuber
doubt it
Its the only and in heaven
Technoblade ngl i watched his duel with dream and his math made me smarter by 2% lol
Rest in peace
hi
quite the flood, but these will 100% make you smarter
https://www.youtube.com/@3blue1brown
https://www.youtube.com/@BenEater
https://www.youtube.com/@clabretro
https://www.youtube.com/@DisplacedGamers
https://www.youtube.com/@weirdboyjim
https://www.youtube.com/@javidx9
https://www.youtube.com/@KerryWongBlog
https://www.youtube.com/@NileRed
https://www.youtube.com/@RGMechEx
https://www.youtube.com/@SebastianLague
https://www.youtube.com/@thethoughtemporium
second is the GOAT 🔥💯
guys i've got a question and i need a truthful answer
so
is feather good for competitive minecraft?
competetive 1.8.9
d
if the god of pvp wills it, so it shall be! @frank scroll
do you take him as your subordinate ??
Have you ever played classic duels?
the client is a dogshit for streaming, lol
It's normal that I don't have the cape even though I linked my Feather account ?
"Feather accounts" are not a thing
If you are looking to sign in to the launcher, please sign into your Microsoft account that owns a copy of Minecraft or use the standalone version.
how to get a server partnered with feather, is there a cost, and if so how much?
@untold minnow
Can you gift cosmetics?
ye
ciao
Hello! How are you guys today?
hiiii good thank you hows your day
someone said "cry" because i told them the 7800x3D was better for games than the 7950x
i saw that lol
It's going pretty amazing!
Ok? I'm sorry to hear that?
Or happy to hear that?
You do you?
do you know how much it is to partner a server with feather
@feral axle
You do not have to pay to become a feather client partner.
You must own a minecraft server with atleast 85+ concurrent members.
does fadedmc.net count
what does bro need to the point where hes tagging whoever that is in almost every channel
its not ur server so no
bro stop ping me
brat mysli ze jest english a jest hinduską cipka
i speak on behelf of the owners
@shadow chasm
from te screm tu the rain to de paint to de dziwka
ur not the owner or an admin or anything so how would u
zamknij morde in poland
english pls
oi speak english
im on vc with an admin
no
@feral axle on jest kurwa pierdolona
I am an admin
@shadow chasm
you are cwel
oi speak english dammit
im speak polish
And I am Sans Undertale
proof?
then go to #🇵🇱┃polski-talk
join Fadedmc dc
ok thats it mods where are we
SPEAK ENGLISH OR GO TO THE POLISH CHANNEL DAMMIT
you german perchance?
no
mk can we get a mod here this kid just said the f word and the w word like 5 times @lunar heath again srry for the ping but can u or someone else sort this kid out translate what he said from polish to english
ill never understand what happened to the brains of this servers members to make them so.. uniquely intelligent....
I loved the way you stated this phrase so much!
Drogba is trying to hurt us and thinks he will succeed XD
translate what he said lmao
It's so very true.
indeed
^
I didn't have to do it because I'm from the same country as him.
by helping? ok wow bruh
It's a good thing!
ooooooooooh ok ok
💀
i mostly meant it with negative connotations (directed at unintelligent toxic or otherwise people) but yk honestly hell yeah
would be nice for a mod to sort this out 🙏
@lunar heath
i dont think shes at her pc rn i pinged once alr
ah my mistake
there we go someone did it
ty mods
to whatever mod did that he was talking polish in here earlier and pinged @feral axle in like every channel btw
Yo!
a
Yo guys simple question here. Can I create an motd for my feather client server. and add a pfp for it? If yes how and how can I set up simple voice chat?
Motd can be set in server.properties, icon can be set by meeting the img Dimensions reqs I forgot and calling it server-icon.png
skibidi
hello
feather client uses only fabric?
@olive gull give me feather client account free permenent
Im out
anyone know how to create a modded server on feather? I rlly need help. i tried yt but dont work
no u dont
ahh
where do I find server.properties 😭
nvm
buy it
nah
why not?
because i am poor
Can anyone recommend a graphics card around 250€
is there a way to make keybind profiles cause i want certain binds for crystal pvp but i also want other binds for bedwars and its a pain to keep switching them manually
Where to buy cosmetics?
I don't think you can
I'm looking for someone to invite people to my server, pay money or other things.
are you paying them or are they paying?
Hey! What do you need help with?
I pay
how much?
negotiable payment
how much could you negotiate
It depends on how many people you can invite.
you paying money?
yes or premium minecraft accounts
alr alr I don't think I can rn
I don't know much English
W
a
@abstract haven thoughts on apple pie?
good
yo
im trying to sign in my account but it wont let me
it says feather client failed to get minecraft profile please login with the offical launcher to set up not found
please help i need to play donut smp🙏🏽
feather not opening
my feather doesnt open either it just gives me a random glitchy screen and i have to alt f4 to close it
can someone help me out
i think feather is just broken rn :P
that note ive been getting is already there since like march?
been tryna play for ever
i might use lunar but it just gives me a random glitchy text screen
i cant send screenshots but i would show it
anyone know why in feather client my fps is sht but in normal minecraft its good?
is there anyway to transfer my cosmetics to a different feather account ?
"Feather accounts" are not a thing
If you are looking to sign in to the launcher, please sign into your Microsoft account that owns a copy of Minecraft or use the standalone version.
hi
is that your trumpet in your pfp
whered a trumpet come from 💀 💀 💀
its my dream car
@untold minnow
sounds like a trumpet
they only have forge for 1.8.9 and 1.12.2
so outside of those versions you can’t use forge
crazy question but, do you like folders
give me a primium account of fether luncher pls
give me a free fether capes in sadalone mod in sk luncher
😂
!crack
You cannot use cracked Minecraft for Feather Client.
It is illegal to use pirated versions of Minecraft, please purchase a Java account from https://www.minecraft.net/ to use Feather Client.
💀
gav fr33 vbux 4 m Vro plzs i ned tem (Sarcasm)
TRAPPP
sure...
BROMMMM TWTTAA
do trumpets do that?
if they do then ig yes
HII
WYDDD
OMG DIDNT KNOW U WERE CHILL LIKE THAT
SAME
@shy skiff yo
i bought the pc
hi guys
Buy me a pc twin
ik
Guys why do i keep falling asleep

guy why am i only getting 60 fps or below
What pc do you use
how to get capeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
It depens on pc
Then i suggest to upgrade your laptop into pc
Is it bcs its refresh rate is 60hz
헉
Im gonna get a new laptop soon cuz i dont have the money for pc
How old is the laptop
Okay then i suggest get the best laptop you can buy
Idk but its 6gb ram
turn off vsync ig but it can help on laptops
How do i turn that off
you can get a pc for cheaper then a laptop if you play your money right. most laptops are overpriced
in mc it should be in graphics settings
U mean video setting
yeah forgot what it was called i haven't played for a bit
I suggest get laptop with 8gb ram and Ryzen 7 if you can
Ill see
Im sorry if you dont have money for that but i hope you find the right laptop you need
No its ok
I need a laptop for my school project
What is it
For my architecture project
Cant your old laptop do it? If yes then i suggest keep the old one for school and new one for gaming
Im mean it can but its always better to get a new one
Like 6gb ram is not good rn
Im looking for a 8gb ram with intel 12th gen
Thats good
Hai lemon

hihi whatcha up to
I just got done playing clash Royale and now im gonna lay down and watch YouTube till sleep takes me away
i feel that im tired as hell
Hyd
Also im not tired rn but im sure I will be in like an hour
hi
Hi
.
hi
hi
hi
Hey cheater
Hi
Wsp
cześć bestsis
Siema
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@near ivy bhai drag kr lo
i need mcfc aaccc
yo! can anyone here teach me axe?
@near ivy Bhai Drag me in rc discord plz i am in duo
.
man i hate when my cheap mob farm coincidentally breaks when i have to go
How do I set up simple voice chat
hi
hi
no need
@near ivy Bhai Drag me in rc discord plz i am chill VC
how old are you
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@slate helm i need help with smt can u go to my< ticket?
Oh sorry
anyone play cs2
Rader
meh
Rader but can u help me with smt?
woah
Chicken come here i wanna chicken curry
rat
help me
Anyone from Turkey
ben
rookie numbers
i need mcfc acc for free plz anyone help me
tell me this isn't real please
...
i don't stay afk in the main menu though
me neither 😔
I play an hour or half sometimes
also this is obviously a joke
when does staff anweser tickets
when they have the time to
H
yea i cant seem to start 1.19.2 for some weird reason
when i send my logs in my tickets it said
this channel is not your ticket
No solutions found for this log. A staff will be in touch shortly.
System | This is an automated message
elo mordo
thanks rader
sorry fiter, didn't mean to delete your message lol
😭
Wsp
hello
Hello, has the free coin giveaway ended?
which one?
The system where we log into Minecraft every day and get free points
no that's still a thing
Then there's a problem with my Minecraft. Because that tab is no longer available.
Thx
N
Hi, i just applied as staff, do i get sent my answer to my email?
Hey i am not able to see my cloak
no, will be in discord
send an image in #🤝┃community-help, most likely just looking in a different place
hi vikec
HELLO
HI
what's up
what's that mean
idk
@steep moon How old should I be to apply?
what's down then
my floor
Minimum born
What?
good
did you complete all the levels in gdash @steep moon
I only finished like the first 3
but on mobile
yeah i beat deadlocked first try actually
How old should I be to apply?
dont actually remember, around 15-16 im pretty sure
Sa
Romeo
Idk but do the server has a Minecraft server?
no
Okay
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oh ok
speak english
english only please
okkk
how can i verify?
heello
Team green bean or taco?
!colors
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the entire server compiles in ~6s from scratch (except downloading the packages from vcpkg) on my 7800x3D
i wrote 83 cpp files and 94 header files
speak english
i have a problem in the lanchere but i don't have a good english
huh
.
how to unblock sm1 on feather chat
how i can get feather cloack without the client i have feather mod
`hi
you don't
i can't get ?
ok
why are u using feather mod tho
because my dad was stupid he buy the game on his account and i don't have on mine well i play on his account its his password ect
How do I update feather
The Launcher auto upodates
So just close it and reopen
oh alright thanks
In which smp do you all plays
Hi
Hi
Where can I write suggestions for the client?
nvm
laughs in singleplayer world
laughs in my custom c++ minecraft server
aw dammit
gonna assume feather points are overpriced due to the free handouts u give daily so how much are they (GBP User)
oh my god
i mean they are really good prices and i would reccomend buying 😅
oh wait custom amounts thats cool
Need somene who knows how to use Worldedit and Axiom to build my Mega Base if intressted dm
i retract my statement
just build it
?
broo
Pretty sure they're like 100 per dollar
And that's USD not CAD or Zimbabwe dollars or whatever
Not Australia dollars either
There's a lot of dollars
hi gng
👋
anyone know why i cant join servers on my feather instance? i can only join through direct connect cus it says all servers are like offline or unknown host, and i also started getting frame drops and render distance bugs. this all happened after my pc blue screened
!help
Please use the appropriate channels to receive support.
- Check #1098503726232244284 to see if the issue you are experiencing is in there.
- Check out https://news.feathermc.com/how-to-debug-crashing-client-issues/
- Head into #🤝┃community-help and explain the issue.
- #📩┃create-ticket and explain your issue, then wait for staff to assist you.
__Note: Do not ping any staff, please be patient. __
oh alr
my horses mod is not working it does not show their speed and else
cool and forge in the same sentence 🥀
Hloo
the broken script to be specific
how do i do it
idk
my horses mod is not working it does not show their speed and else
feed them apples
its easy to do if u use atlauncher idk abt feather im not good at feather
You can't
what why would i do that
As I remember feather is automaticly on fabric
so thats false with forge mods on their site
I'm not sure, I may be wrong
But it's just that I have tried and asked before about that too and no one knew
bjkb
that was my brother
with salutations
Remember
The alphabet and number system are completely arbitrary symbols and could be rearranged at any time
No?
Does anyone have any good minecraft server to play on?
(Not the pvp type server and minigames)
Like survival and lifesteal
Feather shud give out more free stuff
nope
there's already a free cape, free daily points and the medal rewards
we can't give everything for free
I'm sorry, but the server is over 100 ping, is there any way?
Wym hard
I want help
No u didn't
duh, i actually forgot
i did all that things
Okay
Do y’all have a warden hat or something as a cosmetic
can any staff check my ticket?
As a certified staff member i do not want to check your ticket
you'd have to look, but i dont believe so
Nah it’s super easy
because you are not 😄
and i dont need you to check my ticket
You download medal make a clip wich takes minimal 15 seconds upload to your profile and claim your reward
There are a lot of video’s about it
People paying subscriptions to streaming services to still watch with ads is so funny
uhm where to report a dude making a client under the name feather client and using feather client logo and stuff and when I asked him he did say that he own the client lmao
and has a weird mod on modrinth that I am about to test
Is the dude named bren4n cus I have news for you
no lmao
Womp womp
lemme show u a ss
It's likely just some guy who's obsessed
And you know what they say
Imitation is the best form of flattery
yeah and he didn't even credit brend4n and when I asked him to credit him he started yapping about him writing the code from scartch

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exactly
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hi chat
Can I install my client outside of .minecraft?
yea
Launcher settings
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I glaze this man ❤️
def one of the top artists of this gen
@fossil gate sup loser
glazing my goat rn
Before installing the launcher???
I don't really know why you'd need to do that
i have minecraft launcher
Okay?
they may overlap
They won't
whyy???
Feather has a completely different launcher??
myfriend
And doesn't change anything in .Minecraft until you actually try to launch
Or install mods
It also installs the feather client into the .minecraft file.
you are sure?
Yes, that's why the first thing after installing the launcher and opening the launcher will be going into launcher settings and changing the launcher path
Pretty sure, that's why it takes longer whenever you launch a new version
If you're really really super concerned you can set the . Minecraft folder permissions to not allow apps to change it or you can back it up
whats appp
Spilled juice
wdym
why feather don't work
yo feather users
omg bro w feather update
what's in the update
yooo
rader right
oh
hello twins
feather doesn't work nuh
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