#🤝┃community-help
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what are you trying to do
the server ip is localhost
how to do so
feather server
mate
the host name up there
thats the ip
put that in multiplayer
then you can join
can i make it for cracked player
like cracked mc
Possibly but dont, it violates the minecraft tos
online-mode=false in server.properties
error: Jun 04, 2024 6:20:01 PM java.util.jar.Attributes read
WARNING: Duplicate name in Manifest: Bnd-LastModified.
Ensure that the manifest does not have duplicate entries, and
that blank lines separate individual sections in both your
manifest and in the META-INF/MANIFEST.MF entry in the jar file.
error: Jun 04, 2024 6:20:01 PM java.util.jar.Attributes read
thats what it says
reading errors always gives more info if you cant solve it create a ticket :p
i have used feather before this error never came back then
Create a ticket
Ok So Here's The Issue -
Does Anyone know how to port feather client to make it compatible for 32 bit windows 7 (no service pack( for god's sake its so annoying to not be able to play on any custom minecraft client)
Please I Would be So Grateful
Feather Literally Looks The Best And I've Heard From My Friends That It Really Does Give Some Nice FPS
also i only want the client (or the specific modpack) but not individual mods like sodium
Feather 32 bit port's my only bet
anyone knows how i can i disable potion particles without turning off all particles i want only potion particles to be removed not such as totem
I asked if it could be fixed, not if it was funny :))
If you close any errors?
Can you alt tab
Maybe try launch and don’t click anything just wait
bro i tried but same error
now it stucks in this and when i press f11 it show black screen
any1 can tell me how to fix
Disable the pack
WTF happend?!😂 it just randmly changed my skin to that. i dont have this skin this isnt mine
bro i cant open the laucnher how to disable
disable from the folder?
the skin chose you
In files.
i guess so lol
i cant even get into my account
guys, tell me what to do if I want to play feather and I can't go to my account because I'm not 18 years old
how to turn on smooth chat animation?
Microsoft settings I think
how 😭
bro I real stupid I idk how
what can ı do for this problem?
Does anybody know how to fix fps drops on 1.8.9 like its unplayable i get fps drops every 5 secs with low graphics
do not ping staff
Update your Nvdia drivers? do as it says?
okey sorry
why does f3+a not show entities
Kho account da ga 1days plz
i have not nvidia or amd
why are my accounts not saving in the feather client
Can someone tell me how to get rid of the potion status effect timer on top right, it is trasparent so its useless and I dont have it in my mods folder.
i also have that problem
Alright I fixed it, just use the feather effect one
it wont let me sign in to my microsoft account and says i dont have minecraft
I downloaded it, but when I enter it, the game crashes. My system is sufficient. Could there be a bug in the Feather client? ( Version 1.20.1 )
hello, sorry if this has been asked before, but how can i safely back up a feather client server to a USB so i can safely wipe my PC ?
Go to the feather launcher, on the left there should be a icon with 3 bars, click it and launch your server
k
hey can you help me with recovering my minecraft account because it was stolen from me 2 days ago but on feather client it didn't log me out so I'm asking for your help
contact microsoft
nothing we can do
then why are you saying this here and not in your ticket?
then why are you sending a message concerning your ticket here
I tried to contact but I had to enter gmail and when I did, it popped up that gmail doesn't exist
I downloaded it, but when I enter it, the game crashes. My system is sufficient. Could there be a bug in the Feather client? ( Version 1.20.1 )
just wait patiently in your ticket
Can someone help me my game keeps flickering when I’m trying to change perspective I know it’s because motion blur but i dont know how to fix it so that I can use motion blur without the flickering
salut j'arrive pas a faire mon serveur qui peut m'aider s'il vous plait
hello, I can't ask my server to help me please
when i start my server it stops
Hello,can anybody help me, i can not apply better hurt cam
does anybdy know anything about this?
go on settings and click on repair and dont forget to choose your game version
i get this error whenever i open feather with sodium
i have a few other mods installed but they are small and the crash log doesnt say anything about them so 🤷♂️
can you ping me or just reply to my message if you got a solution, ty
How do I fix this damn back? I've had it for months and I can't play feather. Can you please tell me what the problem is with this back or system error.
Thanks so much
when i play 1.8 when i join a server it randomly crashes does anyone have a fix???
i also did you the built in repiar to try and fix
I did the same thing but it still didn't fix the screen.
Yo litteraly it won't let me log in to my minecraft account because it keeps saying I don't have minecraft ??
danm
Hey, go to the .minecraft and find a folder called feather and then delete the folder called cef_cache
Do that to the back fix.
can someone help me. every time i sign in on feather and turn off my pc and re open feather i'm not sign in no more and i have to keep doing this over and over can someone tell me how i can be sign in forver.
It might be a Microsoft security thing. Just login
Same thing happens with me
how can i fix it
but half of the time i get this error when logging in lol
me too
why cant i log in lol
the msauth
so it just going be like that forver?
I have one not like that, mine says that i dont own minecraft lol
I've used minecraft for years
nvm i read it wrong
mb
i just wanna use mods with a client
Nope, i got a different error, mind if i send the screenshot in dms?
Thanks for the tip.
MS auth has failed: This account dosnt own minecraft
Im gonna try uninstalling and reinstalling feather
im trying to log in and it keeps on saying i dont have a minecraft account
i was using feather on the same email yesterday just fine
log in not logging in
Replace your "hosts" file in "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc" with
http://files.a3s.xyz/f/1b0fe2ad38bd4143b2fa/
do this @fading grove
no worries
Hello, i recently reset my pc and have the 'player-server' folder from my feather server, can i recover all of my server etc with this folder and if so how ?
Whenever I try to repair my game and change the version to 1.20.1 FB it goes back to 1.26.1 FB is there a way to get it to stay.
Has anyone been able to make feather run using Linux?
!mac
Mac and Linux support will be available on full release, there is NO ETA currently.
I know, but on linux there is normally many round about ways to run an application you normally cant.
I know there isn't DIRECT linux support.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
This is actually so annoying that there is the minecraft auth problem and it only happen on feather client
or this
L
Is your login credentials correct and premium account
Yes
I've been using feather client for 2 years now
and it always worked perfectly
but this past week
me too
idk what happened
im having this issue now as well
As of recent there has been an issue with Microsoft authentication servers
I'm not sure if it's still happening
Do you have that same error message?
i was now i have a new one
May you send that error
nvm its back to this one now
it was saying i had to log in through launcher
now its saying i dont own minecraft again
Go into the official launcher and log out and re-login
Then attempt to relogin to feather
@tepid fox same with you
Whenever I try to repair my game and change the version to 1.20.1 FB it goes back to 1.26.1 FB is there a way to get it to stay.
I've never seen this issue before. Can you make a ticket with a recording?
I dont think its on there yet
Okay sure
!mac
Mac and Linux support will be available on full release, there is NO ETA currently.
does anyone know how to fix this error? seems like some other people are having the same error
why does it say i have no minecraft
Log out and log back into the official launcher
Then log into feather
i tried that
Is all of your credentials correct with premium account?
yes
Make a ticket for me
1.) Make sure login credentials are correct
2.) Log out and log back into the official launcher. Then log into feather
Also Microsofts authentication servers are having troubles at the moment. This could be a factor.
done, #1247664701450485840
alr it worked ty
why does feather keep logging me out of my accounts
same
minecraft launcher aint even booting up
goto volume mixer on windows
maybe its that
do u play in fscreen
yh
minecraft sound
i am already logged in and it gimme this
same thing as the ppl above me i cant log in
also made sure to check login credentials are correct, logged out and log back into the official lanc, logged back into feather
same here
is it feather or minecraft ?
its feather
dam
microsoft is also having troubles rn !! @coarse schooner @lyric spindle
yea ik cause when i log on to the website it says i dont have mc and i reset it it says i does but i try to edit my skin and then it says i dont have it
but the launcher does
but ive had mc for years now
and its my alt also
The launcher does, but the clients dont. The clients have this weird ass coding
they probably have different auth servers
exactly
this sucks
hopefully its fixed soon
guys i was logged out of feather client and ive tried loggin back in restarting my computer deleteing feather reinstaling feather same with the official launcher but it just says my account doesnt own minecraft
can someone help me please
i think its something on mc side cause it says i dont own it either
no because i can load in on the official launcher
but i aint trying to use the reg launcher
read above
wdum
Feather servers are down , they are working currently on it
Auth servers
Just so you know I have 0 idea what I'm speaking about but it's just a theory
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well its happening to a good amoujnt of people rn
so i asume u r right
So it’s down for everyone
It’s not letting me in
ig so
false
it's not feather servers
it's some microsoft issue
as far as logging in goes, it is happening to a lot of people and i think its mc issue not us
auth doesn't go over any of our servers
How long till fix
^
i would think soon bcuz microsoft has like people working all the time but you never know
Please be patient as minecraft is currently having authentication/login issues. You can try logging out of the original minecraft launcher and back in.
Please do not create a ticket.
what they said

real
just doing my part lol
feather login fent
read the pinned message
oh okay thanks
Someone ping me when u find a fix
@frozen rivet okay
I’m dying to get on mega walls rn but of course this is broken
I've also been noticing deleting accounts.json has been working for many players

Not for me
Its community wide
@compact hollow lmk if that works
What works?
His solution
I logged out on the normal launcher, relogged, still having the issue connecting my microsoft account with feather and lunar, I have also tried deleting the accounts jsons
Unfortunately, you'll just need to wait. Please check pinned messages
It works for some players and some not. Same with deleting accounts.json
can't. log. in. again.
So many login issues oml
Check pins
fr
i aint doin all that
so dont complain
yeah fr
im trying this rn, seeing if it works
cuz i did like
Tell me if it works
I’m downstairs eating dinner😅
wtf💀 i just logged out on mc launcher and it says i own bedrock but not java
wait just reopened it
uhh ima relog again
its back
U logged on??
no
not yet
i just fixed the issue where it thought i only had bedrock
O
yeah im doing this
this has been happening for weeks tho
moment of truth
^
No it hasn’t
i cant imagine its just cause of a microsoft error
First day
oof
bro i cant log into feather
theres a trick where u delete a file in .feather
gotta redo the process
it used to work for me but now it doesnt
Check Pins. Also try deleting accounts.json
yeah that doesnt work anymore
already tried that it didn't work
oh sh1t nice
Check pins
Just be patient until it works again :D
i don't want to be patient
can i be impatient
womp womp
me not being able to log back in is new for me but the issue of feather just clearing my account list has been happening for weeks
sameeeeeeeeeeee
it always log me out
this makes me want to go back to lunar tbh
ill do that
unless its a mojang issue
its not because literally no other client does this to me
how can you say its not a feather issue when it literally doesnt happen anywehere else??
fr
for you and no one else
IT DONT WORK ANYMORE 😭😭😭😭
default launcher is fine but lunar is even working
"ms auth failed: this account doesnt have minecraft"
its a different one every time
yuh
sometimes its "minecraft auth failed"
sometimes its "log into default launcher bla bla"
yup
"failed to get minecraft profile, please launch official launcher to setup"
nice
i tried that it dint work
@fading grove i dare you to log out of feather and log back in
if you're so confident
Then you'll just need to wait and be patient
@fading grove yes relog.
also why tf is your ip in your about me
Happening with everyone bro
q?
patas
3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841
something something
what the sigma
Can someone help me with this?
pins
It either says Minecraft auth has failed or This account doesnt own minecraft
pins
WHAT THE SIGMA
whats the use those don't even work right?
Ah
ok we get it
y por q si yo lo compre tengo el recivo :C
:C
There’s no way to get in just gonna have to wait
I’ve tried everything
Col go play some mega walls
lunar client isntr working either
i have it
it dosent work
thats debatable
Bro just cus ur bad doesn’t mean its a bad gamexxx
i dont even play it lmao
fire
bruh
thats so unfair why you of all ppl
who gets it to work
alright ima try to log in with minecraft running
im just tryna play blockey hockey man
it thinks i dont have a username
Please be patient as minecraft is currently having authentication/login issues. Please do not create a ticket.
With the recent error images please check for the following:
● Make sure you have a premium Minecraft Account. Feather client does not support cracked Minecraft.
● Check if you are using the correct login details.
● Login to the Vanilla Launcher.
● Log out and log back in to the Vanilla Launcher.
● Delete the accounts.json in %appdata%/.feather.
Thank you
wait or try your own sh1t
Ty
Just wait until microsoft authentication stop bugging
Ok
supposed to be 10 more minutes
ima dip and grab food
AHA now lunar installed
is feather still trying to fix this
@fading grove also do u have minecraft open when u try to login or not
whatever
ill wait ig
guys lunar has new cosmetics...
wait
didn't mean to reply sry
it working now
it's been so long i've forgotten what the game was like
its worknig again ??
YOO ITS WORKING WWW
@fading grove @summer adder
W
If you had the session on before without having closed the feather you have access, otherwise if you closed it you will present the problem
my alt isnt working but its fine
yes.
Isn’t working stop the cap
it is bor
idk like fabric if it's available
The problem has been going on for several days or even months but apparently there is no response from the developers
I want u to do it on my computer
Also try logging in your Microsoft account several and several times consecutively and the problem stops happening to me.
U got us all with this one

@fading grove how do i know you just took pictures before all this and you sharing them like you have a solution
It is the solution that at least has worked I guess
Anyone else’s account supposedly not existing?
Cuz according to feather my account doesn’t exist
same here
One of the solutions is to try starting many times
bro i was just playing warzone and then tried it anbd it worked
1+1 = 2 that is a solution
ww
Try
its not
So I’m confused
Just try opening and closing feather and logging in a few times.
I’ve tried that for 7 hours
If you had the session on before without having closed the feather you have access, otherwise if you closed it you will present the problem
Every time I press feather client it won’t open
Sorry for you it was not
Bros grammar is not grammering
Sorry im spanish
Your fine
Can you help me then
i did what the pinned msg said its still not working
Just tell me what to do then I’ll leave you alone col
Just try several times and if it doesn't let you wait 5 minutes and try again.
Col pls help me
My new keyboard (since I broke my last one) arrives in 2 days and I ain’t able to use it
I play donut smp as well, wanna team
Ima HT2 in PvP
CAPP\
Was* I need to train but overall I’m decent
KoolPlaysYT
bro
I’ll be on in 48 hours or so gotta wait for my new keyboard to arrive
u got 0 dollars
Cuz idk how to get money bruv
I haven’t logged on in months bro
I really don’t know
Im so gonna get killed lmao
HOW DO I NOT HAVE MINECRAFT WHEN I BOUGHT IT 2 YEARS AGO
BRUH
Please be patient as Minecraft is currently having authentication/login issues.
Here are some solutions that may or may not work.
● 1. Make sure you have a premium Minecraft Account. Feather client does not support cracked Minecraft.
● 2. Check if you are using the correct login details.
● 3. Login to the Vanilla Launcher.
● 3a. Log out and log back in to the Vanilla Launcher.
● 3b. Log in and out of Minecrafts official website
● 3c. Repeat these steps over and o
● 4. Delete the accounts.json in %appdata%/.feather.
● 5. Restart your Computer
● 6. Re-Install feather (last resort)
Most players encountering these error messages get fixed by following the solutions above. Does not mean it will work, If these do not work, then please wait until the issue fixes itself.
You can also check pins in this channel for more info
"make sure you have a premium minecraft account" hmmmmmm
do I?
i cant remember
pluh
Yes
You'd be surprised 
Yeah! I totally didn’t spend 30 dollars for a cracked client WELL OF COURSE I BOUGHT MINECRAFT DIP-
U guys all play bad Minecraft games
Try hypixel mega walls
U won’t regret it
Try it
ok I will delete
It’s this game with a ton of kits with dif abilities
erm context clues, delete account.json 
4 teams in the game each has a wither and once ur wither dies u have one life left
Last team standing wins
By playing u accumulate coins
Alright
I think it’s one of best Minecraft games
Get auto clicker
And it’s more about game sense
put glasses on actually it was a, erm, joke so um yeah
I like it sliced and diced
The fact this still isn’t fixed is driving me nuts
It’s happening to everybody
Nobody knows how to fix
erm, read pinned
and my mc works on the normal mc launcher
cracked doesnt work
yep
Does anyone know why my game crashes when opening voice settings in feather?
Same
its annoying ashhh
Fr
I mean I don’t have a keyboard right now
But like
It doesn’t mean I don’t wanna adjust my settings
same thing is happening to my atm
@dawn topaz @stray elbow
yep
ye
ohhh
OH
ty LMAO
alr ty
of course
nah fr
When I first saw the ms auth this account does not have Minecraft or wtv I was low key bouta smash my fist threw my desk 47 times
FINALLY
anger management
WERE BACK CHAT
it's been happening to me the past few days.. almost threw myself onto the floor
i though some1 stole my acc
Dang it’s been happening to me for 7 hours
then i tried my alt and it said the same shi
Me to
Is anoying
I am about smash my computer
I did that once, don’t test it
reinstall
me cause i just wanted to play some mc :/
it fixed mine
i already reinstalled i'll just try again later
All time it signs out
i just restarted
same
and reinstalled
didnt work
reinstall
did reinstalling work for u
Please be patient as Minecraft is currently having authentication/login issues.
Here are some solutions that may or may not work.
● 1. Make sure you have a premium Minecraft Account. Feather client does not support cracked Minecraft.
● 2. Check if you are using the correct login details.
● 3. Login to the Vanilla Launcher.
● 3a. Log out and log back in to the Vanilla Launcher.
● 3b. Log in and out of Minecrafts official website
● 3c. Repeat these steps over and over
● 4. Delete the accounts.json in %appdata%/.feather.
● 5. Restart your Computer
Most players encountering these error messages get fixed by following the solutions above. Does not mean it will work, If these do not work, then please wait until the issue fixes itself.
So did I bro lmao
yes
if that doesnt work, go to mircosoft servers, break in, figure out whats wrong, fix it, leave undetected
like the crap they do in the movies
sucks cus i cant start up my server now 😭
if only we were able to start it up without needing to sign in
wdym by delete all accounts om appdata
i got minecraft
- Go into %appdata%
- Head into .feather
- Delete a file called accounts.json
- Relaunch!
i've tried all the stuff suggested in common bugs-fixes
isnt working
ok
i tried this
It's happening to me too
@quick void
why did all of this happen
idk
by relaunch do u mean restart my pc or feather launcher
💀
feather

ok
@deep nest
ik lmao
dint work
crazy
dynamike song tutorial
i feel like there has been more then that
Read the last line in my pinned message
ok than i will go play fn cuz regular minecraft is as
yeah lol
so my feather client keeps logging me out and it wont let me sign back in? does anyone know whats happening
Outage
I have had a auth issue is there any major cause for it?
outage of minecract or feather
dw its happening to basically everyone that uses feather
oh thank god i thought something happened with my account
How do i fix?
Be patient and wait
thats only 61 reported cases out of the thousands who play everyday
alr thanks, how long has this been happening
bro same i taught i got banned from playing minecraft for ever
Alright thanks
i feel that
bruh
minimize the window
same i dont wanna play normal launcher
and put it back fullscreen
yea bro it said i didnt have mc and i was so confused
its a feather issue not minecraft clearly
Me patiently waiting for some random ahh YouTuber to upload: “How I Crashed Minecraft”
i really dont want to go through the pain of redownloading all my mods to the regular launcher
no it is minecraft auth server
im tryin to get replay shots rn bro, to lazy to download the actual mod
It’s Minecraft dingus
My heart is racing I cant feel my hands my head is going numb I need to play minecraft I can’t take it anymore
any other version of minecraft runs fine
only feather isnt working
that wouldnt make sense
yea i thought it had to do with the fact my minecraft acc is so old the current email associated with it is my dads yahoo email
@dense quartz
thanks 😄
lol
ty aswell
read that
@frozen rivet
thats not my problem
for some pepole it work some dont
when i try logging in it says no
check pins
Outage
Same
I feel like its alot more than 61 lol
then stop saying it every time
i wasnt talking to you
Yeah..
repeating yourself doesnt do anything but make me more pissed off
I’m getting vibes from the outage for 3 days on Roblox in 2021 ngl
your flooding chat when you keep going “same” and make other comments
please go to #💬┃talk k to
@compact hollow LOL
mine working rn
Your not my dad but okay
Same message everyone?
check pins
Alright thanks
ur flooding the chat
And we’re flooding chat?
how did u log in????
so through the outage website i have discovered minecraft has a facebook account
Can you take me to pins?
sheer luck
??
I’m assisting players to get support. You guys are making comments that you already know.
just delete that
alr ill try
That is for your screen being blank. Not login issue.
join ss @dense quartz
yeah im good rn
im already logged in
@fading grove
everyone's having the sign in issue right
Yep
A lot of players. Check the pin message for possible solutions
thank you
Where is the pin message?
pin on the top right on the left of the search bar
im losing out on tons of hypixel skyblock coins right now for this 💔
Real
sorry for your loss
if you have been helped please move conversation to #💬┃talk
im still trying to log in
What issue do you have
auth wont work/it says i dont have mc
then you don’t delete cache, follow my pinned message
no.
does anyone know why my feather client says minecraft auth fail and this account dosent own minecraft even though ive been using it for months now
i still dont understand
look at pinned message
outages
its not a mc outage
It is
its just auth issues
Dingus
they arent the same
ur showing a picture that says 61 reports of outages
u really think if minecraft was down only 61 people would have reported it
u dingus
It is Minecraft
bro
Bros stupid as heck you clearly don’t realize it’s not down for everyone
It’s down for a bit of people
But not everyone is gonna report it
Stupid
Quiet now huh? That’s what I thought
And your 7 please get off this platform
add quite a few more years to that
Your 9?
How am i stupid 😭
whats the actual problem tho
Cuz it’s an outage
if its not an outage what is it
its a authorization issue not an outage
It’s an outage
minecraft isnt authorizing accounts to log in
then why is everyone getting it
OUTAGE
because its a auth issue so if u try to log in you will get the issue
if its an outage then its down for everyone and no one can play
Low key I think the staff are saying it’s an outage because they probably broke something lmfao
well im followin g the pinned message and restarting my computer now
Alright
alr cya
pov me loading up lunar client cause im that desprate to play minecraft
scroll up a little bit
bro I have been trying for 25 minutes and tried the things in pinned message
same here
i got the same issues dude
check most recent pin in this channel
check most recent pin in this channel
fr
read the last message
I think feather rn is broke lol
last sentence in my message*
when do we know when the power outage for the auth/issue to login gets fixed?
i’m seeing it broken in others to
no clue
Nah, I can use my minecraft account perfectly but it's a little bit hard, in feather it is IMPOSSIBLE
its all minecraft even in the original launcher it took me 5 minutes to connect
I got connected to minecraft launcher in no time
Im experiencing issues looging in.
If it logs out just wait and update the page
recommend me a good cape thats not cringe!!
But I have the mc account logged in rn and I can't use feather
I don't use capes.
anyone do it
same issue :/
always logging me out if i turn off my pc
ON BRO
and also keeps saying the minecraft acount is not signed into main launcher
I NEED TO JOIN MY SERVER
or its just not an acount
just use a random launcher or just use the minecraft one
.gg/cupcakemc 😉
back to lunar i guess
at this point yes 😂
smh I don't like lunar for 1.9+ pvp
me neither but its the only option unless you dont want to play the game
same
Istg every day there is an issue with feather
plus they don't see tickets
only option
vanilla, MultiMC and any other fork of it
scallop client
bro i cant log in fix this
Check the most recent pinned message
legit have done all
Then just wait and be patient until it fixes itself
its benn 3d with the same issue bro
i thought it was me the whole time tbh
thats inconvenient as hell
Unfortanetly their isn't much Feather Client can do about it. Just be patient and cooperative please.
it is
Reply with 💀 if u think the devs broke something and are blaming it on minecraft
💀
Imagine this is how feather client ends
don't make our anxiety worse 💀
thug client
I’ve just checked a few different clients discord and they are having similar issues. Do not raise false rumors.
yeah ok fed
its an issue with minecraft, not feather
^
father client when
shoot how come lunar nor any other client has 0 issue
we 'bove the law, feds can't touch me y'all.
did minecraft decide the fate of feather
darn liberals
Look in Lunar discord and search “login”
bro
Works fine for me
lunar works fine
is there an estimated time fori t???
holy heck moderator is promoting other clients fr fr
No clue
Real
real
He's a discord mod
real
miscord doderator
I wonder what he like outside camera
yoo
Discord mod status

skill issue
stfu
Sorry for the inconvience. Not much we can do. Just follow the steps in pinned and hope it works.
ok im really not trying to be rude im just getting pissed
Lunar works fine
cause its been forever
is the client issue
Sorry but there just ins't much we can do
so feather client is broken orrr ?/
Some players in other clients are having the same issue.
macrohard idk
Microsofts Authentication Servers
again
i don't think so