soft hull
This is DPP-UE, DPP integration inside Unreal Engine! You can do what you would normally do in C++, but also in Blueprints! The sky is the absolute limit with whatever your imagination can come up with!
This feature is currently in the works and will likely take a bit before I roll it out. It will be on Windows & Linux, and eventually for download on the Unreal Marketplace!
Here's a working example of sending images, directly from inside Unreal Engine! This uses a SceneCaptureComponent2D, takes the render target, and then sends it in discord!
frank lynx
this is completely pog... can't wait to see where this goes!
flint meadow
That looks pog as hell. I would love to see/make some advanced bots with this
soft hull
Hahahaha, thanks for all the comments everyone! I’m momentarily jumping back on dpp, contributing some stuff up, then I’ll be back on this very shortly with more to show!!
lilac ridge
Holy shit this likely just made bot development both easier with the posibilities to make it more advanced at the same time and thanks to blueprints its beginner friendly good fucking shit @soft hull
This type of advancement is insane
Not just for DPP but for discord bot development in total
Mad impressive
I can sort of imagine how it works e.g building blocks with args obviously a simplified explanation but damn
Would love to give this a go once its out
Also wouldn't this have the potential to make bot apps/game commands less intensive as theres less region for error and mistakes? Along with it being c++ anyway
Good shit man you need recognition for this
soft hull
Holy shit this likely just made bot development both easier with the posibilitie...
Thank you!!
soft hull
Also wouldn't this have the potential to make bot apps/game commands less intens...
Potentially yeah :)
It opens up a whole new area of freedom and creativity with discord that I'd love to see be used
lilac ridge
Big ups to you man i could definately seeing even big bots utilizing this
soft hull
Big ups to you man i could definately seeing even big bots utilizing this
Thank you :) I’d hope so! The plan is to get it working via Dedicated Servers so the requirements to run this are little
I’m not entirely sure if 3D stuff will work when you’re a dedicated server but hopefully it does somehow
lilac ridge
Im sure with proper integration from the bot developer themselves it should be fine but theres no proper way to tell really is there
soft hull
Yeah, not really a way to tell atm
As dedicated servers only really know that things exist and where they are, no 3D side, i'm not entirely sure they'll be updating a render texture
I imagine you'd expect clients to do that
soft hull
Here's a new test with buttons!
frank lynx
very cool!
you should add coloured emissives to the crosses and noughts, red and blue, so its obvious this is a 3D environment you cant just do as image compositing, also alter the angle to make it more obviously 3D rather than just top-down
soft hull
Hm, that's a good idea :)
frank lynx
yeah these are things you can do without going outside the realm of programmer-art
from an above view, people who know UE know the power of this, but a random joe looking at it will just say "i can do this with libgd"
or canvas js
go 3D, and "got em"
soft hull
New way of sending messages :O
And most importantly, we got callbacks 😎
Long gone are the days of only using strings, we now got spaghetti in this house
The row spaghetti has to be done because you can't do TArray<TArray<Comp>>
So it's TArray<CompRow> To which comp row is TArray<Comp>
frank lynx
The row spaghetti has to be done because you can't do `TArray<TArray<Comp>>`
pretty sure you can?
but perhaps thats because i did that C++ side
frank lynx
nah i remember what i did
just have an array of 9 elements, using a function to determine from X and Y what the correct index is
instead of 3x3
soft hull
Yeah but i'm thinking for others :P
It's more friendly to let people know "these elements are on this row"
i'd rather the spaghetti if it's more user-friendly :P
frank lynx
if its abstracted they dont need to know, you give them a component where the componentrows is private, and you give them a get and set function that take x and y
soft hull
True, that could work too
frank lynx
thats how mr boom level maps work
soft hull
I like that idea tbf
remote pecan
This is amazing, i'm super stoked for this!
soft hull
This is amazing, i'm super stoked for this!
Thank you! Glad to hear :)
soft hull
Added a cheeky HDR :)
frank lynx
that's pretty damn awesome, shows off that it's a 3D game engine not just images
soft hull
Hell yeah!
soft hull
We’re getting closer to the Linux phase of testing which will be fun :)
old grove
Archie woke up one day and decided to be an absolulte madlad
And I'm all here for it
rustic trout
We’re getting closer to the Linux phase of testing which will be fun :)
You wanna make it work on Linux?
soft hull
Archie woke up one day and decided to be an absolulte madlad
And I'm all here fo...
Hahahahahahha, ofc
soft hull
You wanna make it work on Linux?
And hell yeah
soft hull
Linux support would allow for people to use UE dedicated servers on linux with this
which could be huge for performance
soft hull
you definitely can
Can't do much benchmarking atm, not got it running on linux
but due to how little resources DPP uses, it's basically like running a barebones UE dedicated server
grim trench
Well. Can you make it do not draw anything at all?
soft hull
granted, you'll run a bigger bot easier without the UE end, but that's not the point. If you're wanting to run a bot like Triviabot, you wouldn't be using DPP-UE
grim trench
Like do not render game? 
grim trench
But how to create image than?
soft hull
that's not via the dedicated server
There may be a way to do images via a dedicated server, but that's not related to DPP-UE, that's related to Unreal Engine itself
Or maybe even the drawing of an image happens in a dedicated server, but again, how often it draws is not related to DPP-UE.
You can make SceneCaptureComponent2D only capture when you call "Capture Scene" (or whatever it's called), which is much more performant than a capture every frame
There's a lot of testing that needs to be done with DPP-UE in Dedicated Servers, but the whole image thing isn't related to DPP-UE and is purely just my Proof of Concept, the Tic-Tac-Toe images you're seeing posted is purely to show "hey, DPP-UE can send images from Unreal Engine if you provide it the image!"
Unreal engine is handling the image creation, the image saving, the image compressing, pretty much all of that end. DPP-UE only does the load and send
soft hull
With DPP-10.0.26 released, you can expect more info today! The new release helps the backend of this greatly, meaning I can now handle some events in a much nicer way!
soft hull
Commands will also begin to look different (in how you handle them) following this update!
soft hull
Here we are! Tic Tac Toe pretty much complete!
old grove
Here we are! Tic Tac Toe pretty much complete!
Make it so that it draws a line over it, and if it's animated it'd be more fun
soft hull
Make it so that it draws a line over it, and if it's animated it'd be more fun
For sure! It's on the list :)
Not entirely sure how i'll achieve the animated look (i could do a gif but Unreal doesn't support that) but I'll have a look :)
whole quail
But can it run doom?
soft hull
honestly, I thought of this, and it's doable
frank lynx
lol, sure, but how do you play it when you only see a snapshot
old grove
honestly, I thought of this, and it's doable
But it can only run the shareware one
Cause legal issues etc
rustic trout
I mean, you can make an actual game and "link" it to Discord
old grove
Yeah but grandpa was talking about Doom
soft hull
I mean, who says it has to be exactly Doom
it could be Boom
A Mr. Boom inspired Doom™️ Game
soft hull
lol, sure, but how do you play it when you only see a snapshot
That's the only limitation :(
However, I'm curious as to if there is workarounds
frank lynx
not until discord allow bots to stream video, no
soft hull
Sadly :(
whole quail
Bruh nobody will come after you for porting Ultimate Doom, the game is literally older than me.
rustic trout
It's older than most of D++ community
frank lynx
Bruh nobody will come after you for porting Ultimate Doom, the game is literally...
theres a version that is gpl iirc
soft hull
It's older than most of D++ community
lol
whole quail
theres a version that is gpl iirc
The engine is open source, its the WADs that are copyrighted I think
fresh storm
that's pretty damn awesome, shows off that it's a 3D game engine not just images
Tbh I'd just prerender the images for such a simple game 🤔
But this is really cool, yeah!
Does it run headless?
fresh storm
not until discord allow bots to stream video, no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfS1GIr4kW4
I doubt it's an approved method, BUTTTT....
frank lynx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfS1GIr4kW4
I doubt it's an approved method, BUT...
how do they manage to edit the message so fast?
there are rate limits that stop it
ah no wait i see how
watch the colour of the pfp in the top left
its a botnet of selfbots.... thats a huge no-no.
grim trench
its a botnet of selfbots.... thats a huge no-no.
Look carefully
It is not self bots
It is regular bots
We can try to make one via dpp
Showcase
grim trench
But who sad it is forbidden?
You can have up to 5 bots on one user account if I remember right
frank lynx
But who sad it is forbidden?
discord 😄
soft hull
its massive api abuse
It’s webhooks
Multiple of them
You can see the icon change multiple times
soft hull
Does it run headless?
Hopefully!
I've been away from this for a bit, doing other things due to time, but I do want to get a test running in headless :D
fresh storm
I'd guess something like the llvmpipe renderer would be enough for this
soft hull
llvmpipe renderer?
fresh storm
llvmpipe renderer?
Yeah, CPU accelerated rendering. You don't really need a lot of FPS, right? And this would allow it to run headless on any random VPS.
Combined with a dummy X11 server maybe.
frank lynx
you need to be able to render and capture the scene fast enough that it wont be a performance bottleneck to the bot
soft hull
Idk if that would even work with ue
fresh storm
you need to be able to render and capture the scene fast enough that it wont be ...
Mmh, with enough cores you can render simple 3D scenes like that at about 5-10 FPS. For a bot that isn't on 200+ servers that seems sufficient to me.
fresh storm
Idk if that would even work with ue
It works with literally anything that renders using Vulkan or OpenGL.
It's a graphics driver.
fresh storm
Yeah, I'd write some wiki documentation if it works.
soft hull
hmmmm
That'd be cool
I need to figure out how to even setup a wiki docs page for dpp-ue
fresh storm
I need to figure out how to even setup a wiki docs page for dpp-ue
It's included with github, gitlab, gitea, whatever you use to host the source code.
It's usually a switch in the settings or a tab where you need to click "get started".
soft hull
oooo
sounds good
I'm working on getting my unreal engine source built so I can get a headless server built
Technically, headless will be a dedicated server, but that's just how Unreal Engine works :P
soft hull
Was close to testing headless today, but UE decided to go "no"
But the docs are coming along well!
whole quail
Starred. Keep up the good work!
soft hull
Thank you!!
frank lynx
looking great 😄
soft hull
Unreal Engine 👍
soft hull
looking great 😄
Thank you! :)
now ive gotta rebuild the whole engine
🙃
Source code is up on GitHub! https://github.com/Jaskowicz1/DPP-UE
soft hull
I think this is, perhaps, my favourite thing in DPP-UE https://github.com/Jaskowicz1/DPP-UE/wiki/Music-and-Audio
old grove
The engine is open source, its the WADs that are copyrighted I think
Yeah this is true
old grove
Bruh nobody will come after you for porting Ultimate Doom, the game is literally...
Actually, if you provide the WADs with the app it'll get you in trouble
But the engine is open source and no one cares
soft hull
Just made a huge document for Dedicated Servers with DPP-UE https://github.com/Jaskowicz1/DPP-UE/wiki/Dedicated-Server-Builds
I think we’re very close to seeing bots work headless, I’ll know in ~20 minutes :)
soft hull
Right
I will go ahead and push a couple changes to DPP-UE, but it is fully working on Windows now!
@fresh storm think you might be interested in this
fresh storm
<@609486822715818000> think you might be interested in this
Can you give me a windows or linux (doesn't really matter) build, so I can try running it using llvmpipe?
Don't feel like compiling UE lol
soft hull
Not without leaking a bot token 😅
soft hull
but, then again, will you need llvmpipe with this?
fresh storm
but, then again, will you need llvmpipe with this?
I assume so, since it still requires some kind of graphics driver to render stuff
fresh storm
Is it software rendering?
soft hull
nope
fresh storm
Or not rendering anything at all?
fresh storm
Ahh but then your tic tac toe wouldn't work
fresh storm
Yeahh, with my idea one could run a non-dedicated server headless
soft hull
so that would just be a general packaged build?
fresh storm
Yup
soft hull
I mean, in that case, you could open any UE
soft hull
it's only dedicated servers that require UE Source
fresh storm
Hmm, is there an easy way to build UE projects without installing the editor?
fresh storm
Not without leaking a bot token 😅
What if you accept the token via argv instead of hardcoding it?
soft hull
I'm not entirely sure I can do that with UE
soft hull
especially if it's a packaged game
if you wanna send me a bot token then I'll just pipe it into the bp node, export it, zip it up and send it to ya
fresh storm
Oh yeah that sounds doable
fresh storm
Eh couldn't care less tbh, it's private and only on my test server...
soft hull
more or less for other peeps so they can't spam ur test server
Right, that's packaging up for ya
fresh storm
Thank you
soft hull
The one sad part about using GitHub's wiki feature is that not everyone can contribute to wiki, so if you're able to say how you got it running with llvmpipe (if it works) then that'd be great for me to add to the wiki!
soft hull
then you can submit PRs for it iirc
you mind trying it?
frank lynx
I'll give it a go in a while when back at pc
soft hull
professional
soft hull
It works on Linux too!
I'm gonna experiment with dedicated servers on linux, see if that works
then i'll test that on an OVH VPS and see if it can be up 24/7
rustic trout
Looking awesome!
soft hull
Unknown platform LinuxServer while parsing allow list
Failed to cook /Game/TestMap for platform LinuxServer. It imports class /Script/DppUE.ClusterObject, which is in a module that is not available on the platform.
mfw
Gonna try LinuxArm64 builds, if that doesn't work then i really cba with trying this 😭
soft hull
Been doing a quick test to try get webhooks working, but DPP-UE just shits the bed, how fun
fresh storm
Been doing a quick test to try get webhooks working, but DPP-UE just shits the b...
That's what happens with infant projects 😛
soft hull
That's what happens with infant projects 😛
Lmao
rustic trout
Been doing a quick test to try get webhooks working, but DPP-UE just shits the b...
Have you ever tried getting diapers?
old grove
It works on Linux too!
But does it run on Doom?
old grove
what about room
soft hull
maybe, but it does run zoom
rustic trout
it runs mood
Is it good mood?
rustic trout
Google Meet sucks more
old grove
Hard to argue
frank lynx
Is it good mood?
no just mood
soft hull
a
woeful apex
Now this is my type of channel :)
runic hamlet
