dreamy spire
I know it was too strong before, but the previous changes fixed that, however it feels too weak now due to it's low range combined with very low health, which makes it feel like a kamikaze plane
Recommended changes:
Buff the health
It's health is lower than the Gunship which comes in cheaper and at a lower tech level.
Remove the pivoting
It makes the Fighter feel incredibly clunky. Even after playing with it for quite a bit it still feels bad to me
halcyon stag
i agree with this add on making a bomb drop just go stright down when moving as its hard to be a hit and run vehicle if you cant hit your bomb drops
hot lava
I will refrain from commenting.
toxic kiln
The Bomb definitely contributes to the Kamikaze thing. Really difficult to use right, you can get better, but will a casual put in the time? If you do get better at judging bomb travel distance and AOE it's really strong.
Also run out of room to strafe too quick.
clever orchid
Honestly I like the fighter as is, it’s role now is completely different from what it used to be and I think if feels fine to play, the bomb is really good if you know how to use it and in close range it does fantastic dps, it’s just not good at everything anymore which I think it fine.
halcyon stag
i agree i just dont like how it feels like a one use thing
i dont think we should go back to the old fighter at all (even though i liked how it played it absolutly was broken)
i just think it should improve as a hit and run unit
and these changes dont improve damage or anything that would make it too much of a powerhouse unit
clever orchid
Maybe let the bomb be used during sprint but not the guns
So you still have to use skill to aim the bomb but because of the recharge rate you can’t spam it
toxic kiln
I wanna see a dragonfly rework and cost reduction before anything is done to the fighter.
toxic kiln
It's still firing the old impaler weapon, it's projectile speed is low for air to air combat, it can't strafe anymore. It's range is high for an Alien unit which was also the major reason infantry couldn't hit them. Right now dragonflies are only really good at countering Talion, and that's not exactly all that hard.
devout obsidian
For the love of God do not mention the Fighter until after we get AI improvements and a Centauri faction
Months of dev time has already been dedicated to that stupid unit. Dont waste more until we get some bigger ticket items done
halcyon stag
Fair
hot lava
Remove fighter tbh
halcyon stag
Nah
hot lava
Mostly a joke
I do think its latest update was a step in the wrong direction at this point though.
hazy dove
the idea behind fighter is good, the model fits the game, but I'm pretty sure Dram put a dumb bomb on it because we kept complaining about fighter rockets OP too much lol
I'm pretty sure they'll have reworked it by now, made it smoother to fly and removed the bomb again. we'll see on the big update
toxic kiln
for this update? I doubt it, i don't think lock on mechanics will be in this update, too much work given everything else they have been adding. dram has also put too much effort into the fighter in such a short period of time, the fact that its not an wundervaffen anymore is a good reason for dram to ignore it for a hot minute and focus on other units that need work, not to mention the new roster of centauri air units.
i just hope between my and Echo's wishlists for Centauri air units dram got a few good ideas.
fathom blade
For something called fighter, I think it would be really good to just have more manuveeability and better main weapon for shooting aircraft
clever orchid
The reason it isn’t that is because turns out having a total air superiority machine is really really unfun to fight in any situation, so it’s a strike fighter now which is controversial it seems but we should wait until at least the ai update and preferably when centauri is separated from sol until any balance change should be made
halcyon stag
The reason it isn’t that is because turns out having a total air superiority mac...
centauri is getting the update before the ai i think or atleast at the same time
clever orchid
I don’t know where you got that from
But unless I’m blind nothing on centauri has been shared while the ai update has been said many times to be RIGHT around the corner
So I don’t know how they would be in the same time frame what so ever
halcyon stag
halcyon stag
it has to be centauri to my knowledge as they are holding off sharing the models and they have already shown one of the new maps
as well as sol harvesters
clever orchid
They have the sol harvesters
I’m pretty sure a few months ago someone asked the devs if the Centauri models were in the works and they said not yet
And I don’t think they’d finish an entire factions worth of models and rigging and work in like 2-3 months
I just looked through drams messages to see if I was missing something and I couldn’t find anything talking about Centauri
Only the next update being the ai update
halcyon stag
I just looked through drams messages to see if I was missing something and I cou...
i dont think he would consider the ai update as a massive update when centauri is around the corner
also the devs typically tend to post what they are working on
clever orchid
A few things
I’m just saying it seems like a little bit of a stretch (if not just a straight up conspiracy) to say Centauri is soon
Or close to being done in any capacity
Unless of course dram is just trolling us and releases an update that balances everything and releases Centauri as a surprise but I don’t see that happening
halcyon stag
idk you may be right
clever orchid
I lowkey didn’t mean to write an essay I just don’t know where you were pulling that from
halcyon stag
idk just social media and the time frame of the next update
toxic kiln
Pretty sure the upcoming update will have Both AI and Centauri. They've had Centauri models for a while now, and with a bigger team they can push them faster, but afaik the 2 Human factions will share the lower 1/2 of their tech tree, and even if they didn't I have already suggested they split the current one between both factions with Centauri favoring the "Heavy" light vehicles.
Think Sol Structures have been done since like January Too.
blissful owl
Fighters should really be "boom n zoom", super fast but very weak and big bombs with long reload times. Leave the hover harassment to gunships.
clever orchid
Honestly yea
That’s kind of what they are now just some people don’t know how to use the bombs right
mint root
That’s kind of what they are now just some people don’t know how to use the bomb...
They could definitely do with a buff to their boosting though.
Gunship and bomber having a second boost on a 10 second cooldown is fine, but the fighter should at least be 10 for 10.
clever orchid
Honestly a cool thing would be to let the fighter use the bomb while boosting
Because it’s still hard to land and it wouldn’t be nearly as annoying as old fighter boost
Because it has a cap
cunning lava
Months of dev time has already been dedicated to that stupid unit. Dont waste mo...
month of dev time was probably not put on the fighter lol
toxic kiln
it was still way more time than was wise