little oriole
the host needs to be able to assign moderator status to people that play frequently in their server. its no good having the only person who can moderate the server be 1 person.
1 player just constantly & deliberately teamkilling (just remove team damage alltogether like C&C Renegade please) just makes the game unplayable for everybody.
Theres no surrender option so its just actually unbearable. there needs to be a way to moderate the server without the host.
craggy vessel
Agree, would be best if it was like that, or at least system which tracks team damages and inflicts penalties
unique shale
Vote kicking was mentioned by Dram in an interview. It would also solve the issue of bad hosts that start kicking players from the enemy team when they're losing.
wicked hill
Disagree. Vote kicking is a better option.
Currently hosts can just boot off anyone instantly, and unless all players are messing about it shouldn't be a situation that is unmanageable.
somber elbow
Disagree. Vote kicking is a better option.
Currently hosts can just boot off any...
vote kicking doesn't always work though. sometimes not enough people understand what's going on and why the vote is happening, or why something needs to be done. but I agree that it would be useful as an option
wicked hill
We could have a written message of why the kick is happening.
Some kind of warning system could also work as a host's override for the vote. So you get warned to stop. Maybe commanders could also issue warnings
proven lodge
is this still needed? not sure what ideas there are for moderation commands other than kick. did you want something that turned off FF but just for a targeted player?
little oriole
moderation is always needed in online games.
@proven lodge
!vkick <name> - remove somebody from the vehicle they are in
!tkick <name> - temp kick (they can rejoin right away, used for kicking AFK people who otherwise did nothing wrong)
!kick <name> - kicks the named player for 24 hours
!kickban <name> - kicks and bans the player from the server in the same action
!ban <name> - bans a player from the server (normally used if the player tries to evade a kickban
!mute <name> - stops a player from being able to type in the chat, used on angry people or those who want to spam gamer words.
proven lodge
some of this seems reasonable to add with a server-side mod. edit: dram should hopefully weigh in on their philosophy of where the line is on what should be in the base game for administration. if there’s something firmly in the “definitively won’t be in the base game” then it could make sense for a mod to fill the gap
little oriole
also !spec <name> to put a player into spectate mode as a free floating camera, to help with catching cheaters without relying on hearsay.
glossy panther
+1 freecam toggle for host and players listed in moderator.txt file or host console conditionals.
\Observer 1, floating visible.
\Observer 2, floating invisible.
\Observer 3, commander view all revealed
\Observer 4, commander view, view ports of other commander seen, lines drawn from fps player's looking direction.
proven lodge
also !spec <name> to put a player into spectate mode as a free floating camera, ...
What is the reason for !vkick? That command just seems prone to abuse by admins but maybe I don’t understand what griefing situation this would solve
lament temple
Disagree. Vote kicking is a better option.
Currently hosts can just boot off any...
You haven't played siege
There's a reason why only a few games have a vote kick
It sucks
little oriole
What is the reason for !vkick? That command just seems prone to abuse by admins ...
I can not control what bad admins will do with commands. That should not be a consideration when creating these tools.
My suggestion is that if someone tk's someone and then takes the vehicle they were waiting for the only recorse is to ban them. basically being an unpleasant but imo not ban worthy, there should be tools to remove them from the vehicle
wicked hill
You haven't played siege
Literally every arena pvp game has it. From CS to moba games.
It controls not just bad behaviour, but also momentarily resolves problems with hackers.
If you think having moderators is a better option than group moderation and host control, I'd think you haven't been to discord. :D With each you increase the number of people which can be toxic without repercussions.
The function of mods also requires their presence, which is not as sure as the presence of collective players on the server.
The only drawback to vote kick could be that a low pop server could be "raided" and taken over by a group. At which point player reporting may be required.
little oriole
What is the reason for !vkick? That command just seems prone to abuse by admins ...
Doubly shouldn't care because bad admins already use the cheats that dram put in the game by default to create unfair advantages.
proven lodge
votekick seemed necessary but vehicle kick seems more limited. that direct sequence of events where there’s a TK and then someone takes a claimed vehicle could be detected without requiring an admin be present and watching
little oriole
I personally don't like vote kicking because it enables hostile takeovers due the system being incapable of distinguishing between anything besides numbers advantage.
The staff of a server should be the only people curating the experience.
If half the games ive played only required a number of people to remove someone from the server that would have just been a never ending sh@tstorm.
Server communities should not (in my opinion) be chose your own adventure books, sometimes you have to play nice with people you dont like.
proven lodge
I personally don't like vote kicking because it enables hostile takeovers due th...
votekick should be one of those things that’s configurable for hosts. ideally, it could be turned off when an admin is online. but it still seems like votekick is better than no moderation at all
lament temple
Griefers and greedy players who want all the tanks to themselves suck I've been tk'd more than once over this.
proven lodge
https://github.com/data-bomb/Silica_ListenServer/wiki right now only !kick works which is equivalent to how !tkick was described by @little oriole
manic meteor
the host needs to be able to assign moderator status to people that play frequen...
we need team killing in the game. with out it there no under lying balance for humans
cinder thicket
Custom games don't need a vote kick lmao. Should always be a host only power
Ranked games will have something different anyway so who cares
Assigning admin power for people sounds neat though
manic meteor
Ranked games will have something different anyway so who cares
alot of ppl seem to care to be honest. right now there is no server just ppl running games off there pc power
cinder thicket
Then just give the power to the host lol
Vote kicking doesn't have a place when it's the host's game
manic meteor
the host can all ready kick i am just waiting for the ban update. There was a hacker like a month ago crashing games lol
cinder thicket
That's a completely different topic then, not relevant to this post
manic meteor
it relevant to this topic this topic is about moderation for that not what the title saids and banning is part of moderation
unless the title is a lie then i dont need to speak any more
cinder thicket
I think I saw something about bans. The post itself is very bad and not detailed so xd
manic meteor
I think I saw something about bans. The post itself is very bad and not detailed...
oh you saw that one too lol