Polaris Palooza

[rigid brook]

polaris is sadly not a combat corvette like its purchasing page says it is support corvette aka fatter carrack
instead bring idris can fight at long and short range and carry more light craft

[strong terrace]

At this point i dont see why they made it cap sized, it would've been better if it was sub-cap together with the rest of them

[coarse mantle]

I said a singular blindspot, which means coming from an angle where you would only need to eliminate 2 - 3 PDCs and out of range from bigger turrets. You'd still have to take down the shields then be precise with the timing but it's pretty possible.

[night cipher]

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[coarse mantle]

Yeah that's defo false advertising lmao

[strong terrace]

Don't forget that the polaris "size 10 trick" has alot of "maybes" attached, whereas the idris, if shot well, will hit

[strong terrace]

Same page 🗿

[night cipher]

theres always the bottom of a pack - polaris had to be it

and it always would be

[coarse mantle]

Time to start another Galaxy module mob to make them add it to their bucket list for next Polaris touch-up

[night cipher]

even the way they advertised it

it was gonna be the worst for cheapest

[strong terrace]

Tbf it wasn't meant to be a cap ship

Until they just kinda "it grew by 10 metres, fuck it its a cap ship"

[night cipher]

i mean look at its facilities - 1 ship hangar its obvious the idris little brother

[strong terrace]

What would that make the carrack? lol

[coarse mantle]

That's a snub fighter hanger

[night cipher]

it was because its a command centre with C&C whenever that happens

[tender pagoda]

What's the concierge one like

[night cipher]

the polaris large ship little brother same as the tac

[tender pagoda]

any pics

[rigid brook]

I mean Polaris is weak no matter wat giving it better loadout it would still lose in brawling match but at least it would be scarier to large ships as a cap should be cause ain’t nobody wasting size 10 torp on large ships when we lose our ability to get free torps from claiming it

[strong terrace]

Maybe the polaris would have a more defined reason to exist if there was a cap ship between the idris and the polaris

But rn i dont see people wanting to bring a polaris to an idris fight

[night cipher]

thats not what its for

[coarse mantle]

I'mma get out of this chat, got my polaris paint images. Countering the most stupid takes I've seen on this discord isn't worth the amusement

[strong terrace]

It's not for anything 🗿

[night cipher]

i would never ever bring any large ship or polaris against an idris

[clear stag]

q&a ass

[strong terrace]

It's a jack of some trades, master of one that won't work properly

[rigid brook]

Master of one that is gimmick

[strong terrace]

"once the real ships have disabled the idrs, that's when the 12 people in the polaris will enjoy wasting millions in torpedoes to finish it off - brilliant!"

[rigid brook]

Nowway to really balance that to make everyone happy better off just up gunning

[strong terrace]

Anyway. I'll stop dooming in this chat. I'm happy for all that enjoys the polaris and currently tbf it's really good. But as soon as a bigger cap ship comes out it's gonna be demoted to bigger carrack.. But i hope to be wrong!

[night cipher]

idris being the frigate why would you pit a corvette against a frigate lol

[strong terrace]

Naval terminology doesnt apply to space ships

The polaris serves more as a destroyer

[night cipher]

???????????????????????????

[rigid brook]

I think instead of Polaris being support it should lean more into glass cannon

I think 1 v1 Polaris shouldn’t beat idris but if 2 Polaris brawl against idris maybe result in idris having to think

[strong terrace]

What corvette has the STRONGEST torpedoes

(Excluding the real big cap ships, ofc)

[night cipher]

ok then how is the destroyer pefectly describing the javelin destroyer

[strong terrace]

Have you ever seen a destroyer?

They are WAY smaller and and rely alot more on torps/missiles depending on what age you're talkinga bout

[night cipher]

have you ever seen the ship classifications?

[strong terrace]

Show me a battleship, and i'll say that's a javelin

[night cipher]

corvette is the smallest proper warship in both SC and naval terms

[strong terrace]

Show me a destroyer, And i'll show you the polaris

Show me a cruiser, and i'll show you the idris

[night cipher]

frigate being slightly larger

which is idris

[strong terrace]

I'll totally agree to disagree

[night cipher]

destroyer being javelin they literally do the exact same role as seen here

[strong terrace]

A battleship is a large, heavily armored warship with a main battery consisting of large-caliber guns

[night cipher]

sounds like destroyer and javelin are the same role to me

[night cipher]

sounds like the bengal carrier

[rigid brook]

i think we getting caught up on things that are irrelevant

[strong terrace]

The bengal is kinda above any classification in the "navy"

Yamato was the largest battleship ever and it was only 263m

If anything it's a carrier, albeit with insane armaments

Anyway, all this semantics doesn't change that CIG said the polaris would be able to "hold its own" against other cap ships with its turrets.

[rigid brook]

We talking sci fi and cig being famous for making bad classifications for their ships half the time

[strong terrace]

it does not. Clear and simple

[night cipher]

it was never ever gonna do this

too few and little guns

[strong terrace]

Hey i wish you worked at CIG

so you could tell us this

[night cipher]

vs idris with way more shields armour, weaponry and a spinal mount

how was it in any universe going to compete

how are people surprised by this news

[strong terrace]

Wait till the s7's on the perseus are bad

You'll come around

[night cipher]

idk sounds like the pegasus to me

[night cipher]

will not be surprised

we seen the S6 on the polaris

we seen the ares

until armour theres no way to tell how good they actually are

[rigid brook]

Size 6 needs x4 more ammo

[night cipher]

but i wont be shocked if they ass

[rigid brook]

Dumb size 7 on fighters has more ammo then size 6 on wannabe military cap

[night cipher]

50m gunship that got gutted has 3 more power pips than wannabe miltary cap

💀

[strong terrace]

Again, you're wrong by CIG's own words

It's not a wannabe

it is tip of the spear

Brand new

[rigid brook]

What cig says and does are very two different things sadly

[strong terrace]

But in reality it doesn't have any advantage over an old cranky Idris

[rigid brook]

Tbh that why I think Polaris should be up gunned let it lean more into glass cannon would still lose in 1v1 idris fight but maybe 2 Polaris in brawling match would make idris have to think

[strong terrace]

Won't happen now with today's q n a

Best you can hope for is for its power supply to be fixed ig

[novel remnant]

You guys seem to forget that it takes more energy per pip. Pips don't represent the same amount of energy on all ships. It's not about the number of pips.

[night cipher]

that will also probably get its guns upsized

[strong terrace]

Why should it?

The idris has the s10, unless that's what you mean

[flint bone]

If polaris AI turrets are supposed to shoot hostile fighters that are close, why doesnt this work most of the time. I'm just wondering if its a bug or maybe I'm doing something wrong.

[rigid brook]

cause pdc are really close range

[strong terrace]

It shoots missiles first, largest to smallest. Then fighters, and only within 2km range

And not "focus fire"

[rigid brook]

Pdc aren’t meant to kill fighters they only just size 1 aka peashooters

[flint bone]

yesterday there was a random small fighter trying to kill me flying all around, no missles being fired but he was definately 2km range

obviously couldnt do anything but I'm wondering why PDC didnt target

[strong terrace]

It's very unreliable on the PU, PDC's in general

[night cipher]

idk probs cuz its all got size 4s and 5s and it wont compete - seems like whoever has the biggest ship wins and yall actually believed cig when they said polaris will hold its own

[strong terrace]

Thing is the idris' gimmick will work

[rigid brook]

“Somewhat” hold its own

[night cipher]

yeah cant counter a railgun

[strong terrace]

The turrets can actually be used as defense, and the s10 can be used to pummel other large ships

I've heard it will be limited in ammo, though

But it will probably hit hard

[night cipher]

PDCs on the laris have 1.2km range and no fighter thats smart is getting that close lol also the servers are so desynced they usually dont even fire

they dont even notice something is in range until its left

[tender pagoda]

its 2km

[flint bone]

they did come that close, but irrelevant, then the answer is that they are bugged and therefor unreliable, thanks

[strong terrace]

Yeah sadly! hopefully one day it'll be less bugged

[night cipher]

yay they buffed it!

leaks said 1.2 for polaris size 1s and 1.3 for idris s2 pdcs

[strong terrace]

Lowkey i kinda feel like s1 pdcs are better then s2's

I found it really hard finding the s1's on the polaris

But alot easier to find em on the idris, might just be the square shape though

[strong terrace]

No doubt a cool ass ship though!

[patent galleon]

Slightly darker/matte black with gold accents

No real change in pattern though.

Just cleaner and matte black instead of the speckled grey and gold where the blue is on the main Polaris.

Not much change in window tint either.

It's nice but probably not worth the extra cost compared to the regular 2 skins

[night cipher]

they all good even the default but the concierge is the best

i did save 30 store credits for it

i knew it would be expensive

[night cipher]

soon as i saw that leak i was like that gold is a concierge

and i need it

[patent galleon]

Same, store credit offset most of the cost of it for me as well.

It does give the Polaris a cleaner and sleeker look

Texturing is neater

[rigid brook]

Yea the paints definitely make the Polaris look a lot better

[night cipher]

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[patent galleon]

The Sirius paint is neat as well, will probably just turn it back to creds though, Concierge is too damn sleek

The blue, blacks, and yellow mixes it up nicely

[clear stag]

Phase 3 has been pretty fun tho

Can you dock other ships to the Polaris docking collar?

[night cipher]

yea it has

and no ship to ship docking doesnt work

[clear stag]

Lame

[night cipher]

unless its connie and its little kruger thing

[clear stag]

I do feel pretty let down with the entire IAE this year and I gassed people up all year I should have known better

[night cipher]

i could sense the mid iae

from ILW

guardian qi will save the year for me

[clear stag]

Maybe the Perseus is the real hero

[night cipher]

i wouldnt count on it

weve seen the s6 on polaris

weve seen the ares s7s

its gonna be mid weaponry

until armour comes out

[strong terrace]

They even said the s7's would act like tha ares and inferno 😔

[night cipher]

maybe it will be better

[strong terrace]

err, "perform"

was the word used

[night cipher]

its cooked before its even here

[clear stag]

It’s supposed to have custom ammunition but I’ve waited ten years for lies before

[night cipher]

that probably will get scrapped or release much later

but tbf wouldnt be surprised if they use it as the ship to bring ammo types to ballistics

we will see

[clear stag]

I hold out hope for the future I know ships and balance are going to change a lot still but man the Polaris was my shining star I love it still but bleh

[rigid brook]

Polaris will definitely not age well as the game hopefully gets made

[proper junco]

Wish the pilot seat also got the open hangar button

Ill just sit in the co pilot seat cuz it seems to be 1 button better

Capt s seat shouldve had some flight control sticks like the carrack s does

And blast shields

Being a combat ship its more prone to damage

Tractor beam should have been on rails to justify that 2 power bar use

[flint bone]

anyone else having problems selling cargo from the polaris?

[night cipher]

co pilot seat can do everything the pilot can?!?!?

[flint bone]

Yup, and more since it can open the hangar door

it also has a camera control for the hangar

[night cipher]

yeah thats silly

its got missiles too?

i assumed it couldnt pilot or use missiles

and just did power and hangar

[flint bone]

yeah it can shoot missles and drive just as the pilot

[night cipher]

damn

so literally 0 reason to use pilot

make that make sense cig

should be pilots seat making co pilot redundant

[flint bone]

im personally fine with it, idk, the only real problem i think is that pilot seat doesnt lock copilots ability to drive, so they can both do it at the same time

in all honesty if you let someone copilot you probably trust the person

[night cipher]

yeah

[night cipher]

im fine with it too but

might as well make that seat the pilot seat?

[flint bone]

to me it makes sense, pilot doesnt have to worry about dealing with the hangar

[night cipher]

maybe the view is weird flying on the right but every other ship pilot is left

[flint bone]

main job of a pilot is to well, pilot the ship

[night cipher]

seems like the co pilot can do that now

[flint bone]

as they should no? if you think about it polaris has the captain seat and they cant do shit

[night cipher]

thats what i mean

the roles are all busted up

captain should be able to do what co pilot does

but not manage power or missiles maybe

co pilot does power and missiles for example

or just make co pilot useless and captains useful

give everything to captain and pilot cuz captains has the best view

for piloting

obviously pilot would still have the radar and better mfds

[flint bone]

The way I think about it captain is too busy telling other people what to do and making decisions. Pilot focuses on flying the ship and copilot helps with flying and any other smaller task.

[night cipher]

seems like 2 wastes of crew

could have the pilot or captain doing the other 2 jobs too

sit in co pilot seat and do everything

no need for pilot or captains chair

[flint bone]

Well you have smaller ships where that is the case, when it comes to a bigger ship then you need a dedicated role for the decision maker

[night cipher]

its just on the right which feels wrong but apart from that

[night cipher]

its just weird flying on the right of a ship

they always left or middle

[flint bone]

you dont see picard in star treck flying the ship all that much do you

[night cipher]

thats cuz its sci fi

they got loads of crew and can pay people to do stuff for them

[flint bone]

the whole game is sc fi

[night cipher]

in sc nobody wants to be co pilot

or pilot when co pilot has all the functionality

[flint bone]

yeah because none of the co pilot seats work

[night cipher]

you cant justify wasting 2 people to capts and pilots seat in this game

its different to a film or irl

where they paid a lot to do it and keep their homes going and shi they pressured into doing it

[flint bone]

well you dont need to if you feel its a waste you can still do whatever you want

[night cipher]

unlike here if you put me into a useless support seat id be like

[flint bone]

but making it possible to play out the fantasy is still fine

[night cipher]

cant i be doing a useful role like

[night cipher]

yeah

it would be cool to be in the captains seat

but same time

i do cringe when i see people doin that

and its unrealistic to have enough people for wasting 2 seats often

[flint bone]

idk how org stuff is going to work in the future, it might actually be a sound strategy

[night cipher]

yeah

[flint bone]

and if someone is fucking around thats what the brig is for

[night cipher]

just think if the captain can run the radar up the back for command and control

or if hornet tracker can relay their scans to the capitals

i talked about it here

when someone said c&c/radar is a gimmick

[candid moth]

side by side for some of these paints

[night cipher]

is this default on left and concierge on right or both concierge?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1139296571188596756/1311072143035076630/ScreenShot-2024-11-26_12-48-00-355.jpg?ex=67478695&is=67463515&hm=374985e3bc952765055d9328585a8182a2942c86f89f6217e559b6b65c37bb05&=&format=webp&width=1607&height=904

i cannot tell

looks like both concierge

yeah it is nvm

they just so in different to the base one

the blue lines become gold and thats it

[candid moth]

It is, I will remove it and do it again with concierge vs base

[night cipher]

concierge def looks the best 🙏🏻

but they all good

[flint bone]

these are way to similar

[night cipher]

even default

[night cipher]

THEY THE SAMEEEEEEEEEEEE

30 store credits of mine for a gold trim

was worth it

[night cipher]

why the gold one got a weird dark blue shade on it and the blue one doesnt

[candid moth]

Quasar has a very subtle blue tint to it

[night cipher]

yeah

[fierce arrow]

Polaris is realistically a destroyer.

[fierce arrow]

Javelin is a light cruiser or Destroyer Leader.

[strong terrace]

Yep, my thoughts exactly

never heard about destroyer leader tho

[fierce arrow]

Like a bigger destroyer that leads other destroyers.

Ex: Gearing.

Shush.

[night cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-terada-aurora-dance-afk-gif-15899276

my size 20 torpedo gonna say hi

[fierce arrow]

I have PDCs.

[night cipher]

i have shields

[fierce arrow]

I will swat you aside just like that Cutter.

[night cipher]

you are easy pickings my aurora gonna eat you up

just like you got swatted aside right?

[fierce arrow]

Bleugh!

[night cipher]

you will beg for me to come save you from the firey wreck

[fierce arrow]

Keep dreaming. I have NPCs for that.

[night cipher]

aint no npcs coming to get you

just me

[fierce arrow]

Fite me. On Origin day?

[night cipher]

hmmmmmmmmm youll regret it when i win and we on that javelin date

just back out now

[fierce arrow]

Keep dreaming.

[night cipher]

save your pride

wont be a dream for long

[proper junco]

Imo torpedo operator seat should be in the bridge

With an actual seat so his legs wont get tired

[night cipher]

although he could be useful down there

engineering when not needed to fire torps

a console right behind him

[night cipher]

or loading more torps

when empty

[candid moth]

Done, even added a picture

[fierce arrow]

Make the rear right missile officer also the torpedo officer.

[lilac swan]

jesus christ

even though i saved money buying it ahead of time, im still mad i didnt know about CCU chaining

[candid moth]

yeah it's cheap

[lilac swan]

yeah here i am paying the full $750 🥲

[proper junco]

Wonder how much discount is my 375 now

I calculated about 61%

Still mad that the polaris went on warbond before this price increase

Coulda grabbed that and kept on chaining to that ccu tho

Wonder if we ll be able to ccu the Polaris to anything bigger

Let us sidegrade to similar priced ships

[fierce arrow]

“Cheap.”

[night cipher]

don’t worry guys i got that nautilus to polaris upgrade last year cuz i knew it would save like 200 bucks 🙏🏻🔥

i know you was worried about me

[strong terrace]

Bro has more faith then me

[night cipher]

where has this pink polaris come from

[somber pivot]

Like every other pink skin, texture bug

[night cipher]

ah

[candid moth]

finally committed this

[proper junco]

Will the concierge skin eventually go away?

[candid moth]

Unknown, the only true tell is if it leaves the store - concierge paints that leave the store (generally OC) do not return

It'll probably stay, recent release concierge paints have stayed -
Lynx - Moonrise
Fury - Leatherback & Black Star
STY - Tuiping
etc

[frank lily]

Pew Pew Polaris - Best in BREED...!!

[proper junco]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-falling-gif-27355771

[proper junco]

hehe

[patent galleon]

Nice.

I squeezed out an extra 20 on mine.

[proper junco]

found out what the other buttons are

the directional blast shields

the center one is the hangar door

im pretty sure we should be able to raise the platform up and down

[fierce arrow]

No longer a feature.

[proper junco]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

was hoping they kept the atc room

[patent galleon]

The polaris doesn't have blast shields though, is it meant to?

[proper junco]

its the hangar blast shields to protect the crew from the fighter engine blasts

theyre small and only 4 of them in the hangar

[patent galleon]

Oh those. Cool.

[rigid brook]

Oh man I didn’t realize how bad the side hull turrets were

[latent nebula]

any news on when the captains quarters will be implemented?

[rigid brook]

Next major update so what ever that really means

[latent nebula]

sounds good thanks!

[night cipher]

4.0 i guess

can’t get much more major than that

[proper junco]

Inb4 1.0

[clear stag]

I haven’t really used them myself yet didn’t want to force a whole bunch of people on when I only need 4 at the max

But 4 size 3s just seem way to small for that big of a turret space and side

[proper junco]

using the Polaris during the Idris fight

I felt that it needed upgunning

and more turret hp ngl

without torpedoes that cant hit reliably, there s really no other way to deal damage other than the s6 gun

once that is taken out, the ship is just a really bad anti fighter screen

no s5 guns

really the only gun we have against bigger target is the s6

and if they have decent pdc s still running the torps are useless

that idris pdc was shooting the torps as soon as they come out of the tube, it was cracked

[latent nebula]

Is there any footage of the Polaris firing a full volley of torps and missiles? I assume it can fire 4 torps (tho staggered) 4 forward facing missiles from the bespoke launchers, and then 4 more from the operated missile turret. Am I missing any? If not that’s 12 almost all at once, would prob be a sight to see if anything. Maybe saturate the PDCs of an idris to allow a s10 or two through.

Can anyone confirm its viability?

[night cipher]

yes but the torpedo turret probably won’t be on the same target as the torps and pilot missiles

honestly next update i wouldn’t even bother with torps and missiles

400k for one size 9 torp

if size 10 is 600 that’s 16.8 mil for a restock LOL

40k for a missile

it’s absurd

just for them to get H/Jed

go the wrong direction

do 2 damage

or get shot down by PDCs

[latent nebula]

Golly!!!

That’s insane!

[night cipher]

without repairs, refuel, claiming servicing the vehicles/ships inside the polaris as well and paying crew

don’t forget buying equipment like guns and armour for when you respawn, and fuses as well

[rigid brook]

Yea tbh I knew Polaris needed up gun but after idris fight its need a pretty big up gun to stay relevant, cause tbh just felt like bringing a fatter carrack to a cap fight

And that’s after watching like 4+ Polaris trying to kill idris

1v1 Polaris shouldn’t win but 4 Polaris vs idris idk maybe should do something? Without having to rush a size 10 rail gun to dumb fire torps

[rigid brook]

Also the side hull turrets need a rework to allow a better cone of firing cause they feel very limited can’t really aim towards the nose of the ship and can’t even help cover the top or belly

[dense grotto]

would love to hear your opinion on this post
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1h3e53t/polaris_torpedo_problems_too_slow_or_too_fragile/

[proper junco]

both ngl

they can be popped as soon as they leave the tube

ive seen it happen a lot when we have been doing the Idris fight

definitely needs upgunning

capacitors in general needs to be buffed too to feel good

but theres the fighter vs turret balance

[night cipher]

and this was without the railgun

[proper junco]

S7 bespoke laser cannons pls

I hate ballistics for long fights

Without big laser weaponry, no one is gonna be able to wear down capital shields

[royal hemlock]

is it normal for the parks to be so tanks?

[rigid brook]

All size 3s to size 4, missile turret replaced with quad size 4
-nose and top turrets dual size 6 laser cannons (maybe nose can be dual 7)
-increase capacitors
-rework side hull turrets so they can get better firing angles

[latent nebula]

whyt wouldnt they have done that when they first upgunned it

like size 3s are so weak, and that missile turret is so lame. imagine being fully crewed and ur job is to operate the missile turret...id log out lol

lore wise wasnt the polaris created to be an updated version of the idris? faster, easier to manufacture, like everyone says the polaris is meant to punch above its weight. right now i feel like it cant even punch at its weight. i wouldnt mind the price to repair or restock if the ship was actually lethal, the turrets just arent it

[night cipher]

it was never made to combat an idris

it was made as a cheaper alternative that was still effective against the vanduul

a few polaris might have helped at the battle of vega

those S10s could’ve been good at poking large vanduul ships

but they would just get one shot like an idris by the kingship

so at least they would be cheaper and more likely to dodge whatever attack is coming

[latent nebula]

ah gotcha

makes sense

is it a bug that my turrets only fire 6 times before running out?

also would it help to full fuses in all available spots? i think the default has a few fuses missing

like the fuse box across from the captains quarters only has 2 of 3 fuses

[night cipher]

probably not

[night cipher]

fuses don’t really do anything rn just have one

[night cipher]

the capacitors and ships power are really low so you probably don’t have very much power going to weapons

and the small ammo pools from the capacitors doesn’t help cuz there’s so many guns to power

[latent nebula]

Ah capacitors makes sense, I swear I set it to max power to guns but it might have bugged out

To get max power to guns I had to turn off engines or shields off entirely

[weak hill]

Finna turn my Polaris into mildly weaponized medical transport ship. Putting a Medipin and a Nursa in it 😎

[night cipher]

🙏🏻

[weak hill]

Imagine how dope itd be to put up a service beacon and a Polaris pulls up, parks way up in the air above you and a medipin flys down to come save you either taking you into the Polaris to protect you on the way back to a station or healing you and flying back to the Polaris and flying away

[coral rover]

Literally sex

[halcyon estuary]

Can you fit a C8R next to the Medipen within the hangar?

[proper junco]

tbf the medipin has just as good a medbed as the Polaris

idek why theyre so scared of putting t1 beds on capital ships

[night obsidian]

Literally one of my ideal game loops. Highly trained, tactical MedOps

[latent nebula]

is it worth going full rattler II and saturating targets in the hopes that a torp gets through pdc's/flares/noise?

[untold gorge]

Seems like the best option other than using your fighter to take out pdc

[latent nebula]

im thinking bring a couple sabre firebirds in the polaris hangar, outfit them both with rattler ii's, they can fire a volley of 6 rattler ii's at once, meaning 42 mini-missiles saturating a target, making it impossible for the enemy to distinguish the 43rd missile, which is in fact a size 10 torpedo lol

would love to see someone test this strat someday

see how viable it is

[latent nebula]

how come? lol

oh dang

what ships can take rattlers

[patent galleon]

The shrike has swappable racks that should let you mount Size 2s I believe.

[latent nebula]

damn, too bad no 6 missile volley haha

shrike is a good alternative, fury mx as well if all its intended to do is missile barrage and then die and have the pilot respawn on the polaris and head for a turret or something

[patent galleon]

So far it does seem like PDCs target based on incoming missile size, but I haven't tried the Rattler swarm yet.

Damn

[latent nebula]

[patent galleon]

Fury MX it is lmao

[latent nebula]

wait for it

[patent galleon]

Also doubles as a disposable torp after firing.

[latent nebula]

lol yup

can the andromeda carry rattlers?

lol at that point i guess its not all in one, but hey an escort carrying 28x S1 missiles and 24x rattler ii's sounds kinda dope

...is this true?

forget the andromeda if so lol

if pdc's priority size then perhaps having 2 firebirds with a volley of 12 s3 missiles vs a hammerhead firing 4 rattlers (28 missilettes) might be better in terms of sneaking a torp through undetected. this is the kind of testing i care the most about haha

how to maximize the effectiveness of the big boy torps

WOW

overwhelming

was that with flares/noise?

oh true i see

interesting

and as for their polaris, or i guess any polaris, do you know how many can it fire in a single volley if missile/torp operators are cordinating

what about the missile turret? can it face forward?

lol cant blame em

lol wow, sounds not so fun

and how did y'all do with that onslaught?

lmfaoooooo wow

that sounds legit

you think it needs further upgunning?

[patent galleon]

Manual rearming of guns and missiles as an engineering activity would help immensely as well.

Might make the non-torp Missile loadouts actually worth something.

And increase Capship Capacitors while they're at it.

I find them pretty anemic, even with CFs.

If you're dropping system power to divert everything to weapons it should get a fair bit more sustained fire imo.

Like it's not terrible bad, but I feel like Capship turrets should have better capacity/ammo pools compared to a fighter mounting the same weapons given you're having a player sit in one and limiting their field of view and slaving their ability to move to the pilot.

Makes it a better tradeoff, and it's not horribly OP as we saw with the old pre-capacitor change Hammerheads which could fire for like 30 seconds without stopping and still weren't great due to limited arcs of fire and turret turn speeds.

Yeah, there's a fair amount of values that can be tweaked per turret so I'm hopeful they figure the balance out eventually.

If the side Size 3s had much deeper capacitor wells compared to Size 4 turrets and could maintain sustained fire on shields and fighters I'd be happy.

Torps also need to have a safe arming distance so they don't explode in the tube lmao

I'm pretty sure that 3/4 times I've lost those front guns it was because a Torp got exploded near the tube.

(Also why almost every Polaris I see at Idris fights has a red nose)

Rudolph the red nose Polaris, had a torp blow up in his face. 🎵

Thinking about it, most of the issues I have are with the underlying systems and state of the game at the moment rather than the ship itself. Manual rearming so we can actually maintain that sustainable militia flagship/patrol craft and your dedicated engineer players can run around slamming SCU boxes of ammo into feeders, Capacitor pools worthy of Capships rather than them being smaller than their fighter equivalents. Torpedo and Missile safe arming distances, PDC refinements/tools to overwhelm them.

maybe CIG won't randomly nerf things and will implement the systematic changes that ensure the Polaris continues to have a role to play and be a capable ambush predator and point-of-the-spear corvette as Capital Combat gets fleshed out.

[rigid brook]

Dumb firing at close range is like the only way to land torps lol

[patent galleon]

Yeah but it shouldn't be.

[rigid brook]

Tbh if they want torps to be after thought/last case scenario, fine……. But up gun the Polaris so it can actually “somewhat hold its own against caps”, not saying 1 Polaris should beat idris, but 4 Polaris brawling against a idris should probably make idris have to at least think

[proper junco]

Capital vs capital fights are endless by virtue of shields vs lasers. Just regen the shield and get back in the fight

At this point capitals cant beat capitals without their big guns

Laser turret vs capital shields is gonna take a really long while

Only to regen back to full in a bit

[rigid brook]

Almost like caps should have anti cap weapons, sounds as silly as saying large ships should only pack size 1’s so they can’t break each others shields

[mossy yoke]

its to early to say, that torps are not working... they are noit at the spot

telling them to upgun, only because upgunning is working in the PU right now... which is nowehre to finished balancing and heaving all features... is not worth it

or well, they upgun it now, because Comm is crying hard... to later downgun again...

i think polaris does not need upgun...

[untold gorge]

who got cheat sheet for what fits in polaris hangar

[lapis fable]

em rattlers needed

remember what i told you about torps before polaris came to ptu

ir and super slow -> useless

[rigid brook]

Cig said it them selves the torps are not a opening move or first strike weapon

Literally definition of useless until enemy is borderline disabled, so I doubt they will change them to become useful the only thing left is up gunning and even if it did get an up gun it would still fit the glass cannon role, if not then 90% of the time Polaris is glorified fatter carrack, best armed cargo ship in game which is far from either of its intended purposes

Don’t get me wrong Polaris is great ship but it’s gonna age like milk as everything around it gets power crept and the real military grade caps come in

[fierce arrow]

They cannot attack an enemy that shoots back. Literally useless.

[frank lily]

fuck yea boi..!! Super happy about that -

So anyone flown the Polaris yet?

...

[coral rover]

Almost everyone

[proper junco]

I should just ask support to melt my hangar to get an Idris

[clear stag]

What’s the point of anything anymore lol

[rigid brook]

i can hear the sound of polaris's melting

[clear stag]

I’d only get 300 back from mine so I can’t lol

I was looking forward to this ship for years

[weak hill]

Same here, if my Polaris wasnt so discounted I wouldve melted by now

Its hard to justify it incase I ever decide I want it back

[clear stag]

Shit just breaks my heart man

[weak hill]

I agree. Im not even upset at it not being super soloable. Its just a bad ship

[clear stag]

i dont need it to be soloable i have people but whats the point?

[proper junco]

gib s7

the s3 s are just plain horrible

[fierce arrow]

S7s won’t save it. 1 2 x S7 turret is not going to save this ship.

[weak hill]

Wheres my captains quarters

[untold gorge]

Are they smoking crack

What could you possibly do in game with Polaris that would cover these operational costs

There’s no gameplay

[novel remnant]

Any missions in EPTU for it?

[pallid lantern]

Hate to have to claim one after a server crash when its location is just listed as unknown

[dense grotto]

i dont know what people are crying about.. it just means you ACTUALLY have to pay for maitnence instead of waiting 18 mins and paying 10% of the restock price.. just play the game as intended

[pallid lantern]

If I fired the missiles or took the damage sure, losing a ship to server performance though

[novel remnant]

Are the missiles still treated as installed on the ship or to I have to rebuy and equip the missiles every time

[dense grotto]

treated as installed, atm theres a glitch, DONT PANIC ITS A GLITCH that the polaris spawns without its torps but the intended feature is just to go and restock.. as it should be imo

[fierce arrow]

Rebuy and reequip everytime after the first delivery.

[dense grotto]

No dude… it’s just restocking

Have you not watched the video about missiles in 4.0?

The prices are currently WAYYYY too high but the restock system is still and will be staying in the game

Don’t spread misinformation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=669ffUFwwqY

[patent galleon]

Asking Bristerian to stop spreading misinformation is like asking a fish to stop swimming.

[rigid brook]

Well it’s official Polaris has now become fatter carrack cause ain’t nobody wasting 14mil on torps just to watch maybe 1 land lol

Truly best armed cargo ship in game…….. so military cap when?

[opaque rain]

oh i have a way to shut bristerian up

watch

[patent galleon]

Don't forget that in an earlier discussion Bristerian had said

Turns out he couldn't get behind and on top of it

[opaque rain]

this is from that discussion my friend

[patent galleon]

Well it was earlier in the discussion

Then you guys shot him down.

[opaque rain]

yeah, a couple hours later

when we were both in bed smh

[patent galleon]

And the Polaris in that EPTU patch had one turret working.

[opaque rain]

yeah

and he was arguing it couldn't be done with FULL coverage

he died to a single turret

[patent galleon]

What if he gets behind you and on top of you though? It's not like the Polaris can roll.

Oh wait

It can

And he died

[opaque rain]

and like

that entire fight

i was either rolling right, yawing right and pitching down

or the exact opposite of all of those

i literally just caught him when he had a bunch of momentum and bit by bit he died

[patent galleon]

Just wait until he gets his solo Javelin, then we'll see... how ineffectual one guy in a Jav can be.

[novel remnant]

Wonder if I can kill it with my aurora

[patent galleon]

Normally I'd say nah, but it's Bristerian so you can probably get close enough to board it and then kill him

[novel remnant]

Oh I was thinking of it being a big missile. But engineering might be out by then.

[fierce arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kinger-breaks-the-amazing-digital-circus-amazing-digital-circus-digital-circus-gif-10726468742037335590

[fierce arrow]

I have spread no misinformation.

CIG not quite quote: “When you claim your ship for the first time, it will come with munitions but any other times it will not.”

Or something like that.

[dense grotto]

Meaning it won’t be on the ship but it will be in the load out..

It’s already pushed in the EPTU and it’s like that

So again, don’t spread misinformation

[night cipher]

yea so you just restock at a pad

[fierce arrow]

Wait, what?

[weak hill]

Yea just restock at a pad and spend 14m no biggie

[novel remnant]

Bris got a new color

I see you

[fierce arrow]

I have been... Fired.

[dense grotto]

When you reclaim the ship the pods will be empty but you can simply press “rearm” because it’s still on the hangar load out

[fierce arrow]

Can they be removed while technically empty?

[patent galleon]

Lots of shelving in the Captain's Quarters

A good amount of personal gun storage too

Captain's Shoilet

[weak hill]

DID THEY FINISH IT?

IS THAT FINALLY IN PTU?

[patent galleon]

Yeah it's in the PTU

[civic sage]

why is it so dark and ugly

[sterile atlas]

my friend has this ship is it new player friendly? or should i get a better starter and learn the game first before playing with him

my most experience with space games is no mans sky

[rigid brook]

Polaris? New player friendly? Better starter?

All those should not be in same sentence lol

Polaris is endgame, expensive to run and maintain, and tbh isn’t worth it anymore unless you want better carrack cause that’s what you get, don’t read the description

It’s not tip of the spear, doesn’t do first strike, and doesn’t hit just runs, but hey best armed cargo ship in game

[candid moth]

The perfect spacedad ship at least

[rigid brook]

Best starter bang for your buck is still avenger titan imo, maybe it’s arguable now but idk

If you still want sorta endgame potential ship with minimum crew requirement and does combat the Perseus is probably more up your alley but even that will be a decent more expensive to run then a starter and more new player friendly then Polaris but should be in game soon ™️

[sterile atlas]

oh, my friend told me to play this game because he got one

im trying to figure out a starter ship so i can play with him

but how hard would the polaris be to work onboard?

[coarse mantle]

Dude it's a 950 dollar ship, just buy an actual starter this is practically the most expensive and most endgame ship currently flyable

These guys are talking about large and cap ships, they also have a screw loose normally so don't ask here for beginner advice

[coarse mantle]

To answer your question though at least 6 people minimum for it to be any good.

[sterile atlas]

no i mean like, would i be able to help out onboard his one

or would i be better off learning the game through a starter and working up

[coarse mantle]

I mean yeah, there are roles such as turret gunners, torpedo operators combat wise and a few other miniature roles.

The only real role you'd have until engineering comes out is manning a turret or the torpedo console.

[coarse mantle]

Just learn it this way, manning a cap ship isn't gonna make u learn the ropes

Though it can be a fun multi crew experience and good for a specific adventure like taking down an idris

That one needs good coordination and a decent crew though

[rigid brook]

Best starter bang for your buck is avenger titan start there for your starter ship then serve aboard your friends ship and have him teach you, fyi avenger titan can land in his hangar, but if your friend isn’t online avenger titan should allow you to do some basic stuff and get a hang of the game playing solo

[weak hill]

Polaris is easily best starter bang for your buck if youve got enough bucks to put an F8C and an ATLS and an Ursa in it cause then you can go run any of the content in the game and have your mini aircraft carrier spawn vessel

[night cipher]

sounds like a great place to start

[night cipher]

https://youtu.be/h4Ie2RhztQo?si=qeNMpv-osjLS7qcp

guys captains quarters is here

i was hoping for a screen or computer or something at the desk

i hope they add TV screens or computers to subscriber flair because this and the brigs desks are really empty

[night cipher]

the wall with those weird clip things behind the desk you can put guns on

so empty, guess they left it plain for us to make our own space with decorations

[sterile atlas]

ok i have a polaris and f8c, just need an atls now

also got the f7a when they had that event going on

[main violet]

why are ppl so mad about the polaris right now

[patent galleon]

1: The Torps are missiles and suffer from the usual bugs with those like funky missile locks that aren't actually locked, disappearing, and desych
2: The torps are ridiculously expensive in the current PTU, costing over 14 mill to restock, this is accompanied with another change where Torps do not come with your ship when you claim it after the initial delivery.
3: The torps aren't very effective against their preferred targets due to the new Point Defence systems which effectively destroy your million dollar torps on approach. They also have a tendency to blow up in your tubes, either due to being shot in there or due to clipping. This normally also destroys your 6 million aUEC front guns or kills the Polaris.
4: CiG's current plans for Torps in capship combat is as a finishing strike rather than an opening salvo. You'd need to peel away shields and point defence before launching them. CiG hasn't announced countermeasures or other methods of landing Torps, meaning that if they maintain that course and execute it exactly as described you're primarily picking on targets of opportunity rather than leading the charge.
5: The Polaris trades capital grade firepower, and gun firepower in general for the Torps, having the dual size 6s and the top quad size 4s as it's main source of firepower that we think can hurt capships once armour is in.

All of this is subject to change but the initial pitch of the ship was one that punched up and threatened larger capships, currently the Polaris is better suited to punching down and not using its torps. Outside of the Idris, targets for it are limited and we do know the Idris is currently balanced as a strong boss from fight for the server pop rather than a single ship.

[main violet]

i see thanks for the explaination

[patent galleon]

There's more to it but effectively right now the the Polaris' main gameplay loop doesn't exist at the moment and the current state of PDCs, the Idris, and CiGs explanation of their vision for Capship combat leaves it's future role murky.

This doesn't mean the ship is bad, it's the only ownable capship around and is a very tough customer. It's a great multicrew platform even with just the guns. Lots of amenities.

[proper junco]

perhaps the Idris K would be more cost efficient with the laser cannon

seeing as u cant shoot down a laser

gonna melt my Polaris, lightning, and game package then add some for an Idris

[main violet]

honestly same but idris is impossible with it being hull limited

[proper junco]

ill ccu my Apollo first to the TAC

and grab the lti fury in my buyback

[patent galleon]

I do wonder how they'll make running costs for the Idris and Javelin prohibitive.

[proper junco]

i mean it cant be more expensive than 14m 28 torp restock

since the Idris K doesnt have a railgun

but a laser beam instead

but the repairs could get more expensive

but thats only repairs 👀

[patent galleon]

CiG: "here are huge and expensive specialised relay fuses you need for the output of that laser. If you fire it too soon it fries them and you need to replace them"

[proper junco]

straight to the melting pot

[rigid brook]

To simply put it Polaris doesn’t fit its description, doesn’t fit its initial pitch and doesn’t fit its reworked pitch, sadly Polaris is better carrack or best armed cargo ship in game take your pick

[proper junco]

is there any other weapon in game that can reliably down capital shields?

doing the Idris fight it took a pretty long while

i havent seen them get a clear thats legit

[rigid brook]

Cause the only real firepower Polaris has is 2 quad turrets size 4 to fight cap shields

[proper junco]

all ive heard was cheese with point blank torps, cheese boarding

[rigid brook]

The rest are size 3 and the size 6 passes through shields

[proper junco]

^

[rigid brook]

Sadly you do that you blow up your nose turret

[proper junco]

real

the only other solution left is ballistic targetting on the pdcs

[candid moth]

A flock of S7s did the job, it's just hard to get a dozen people who also own an Ares Ion/Inferno to do it since you can just board with a Pulse or X1 Force and wipe everyone on board out without even getting off the hoverbike

[rigid brook]

But once that’s in why bring Polaris if you have something to take out a enemy caps defenses then you already have the firepower to finish it

[proper junco]

real

see I cant consider bike boarding a legit strat

a strat for real, but its a cheese

[frank lily]

Sure isnt for me - i tend to end up on the Idris; windshield...

[rigid brook]

Polaris is best armed cargo ship in game sadly that’s all it is, very far from military grade cap

[proper junco]

[frank lily]

Oh naaa - i fucking love my Polaris - i can fill it full of Furies and have at it with me mates... Most crash on take off but is looks awesome

[proper junco]

ill be honest that kinda looks cooler than the railgun

Pilot s10 laser beam

[frank lily]

Cant wait for my real Idris either...

WOnder if i can take the Railgon off of the idris and retor fit it to my Polly or Carrack?

[proper junco]

inb4 they gave it the Polaris treatment and has a 1 button terminal to fire

[frank lily]

omg right

[proper junco]

duo Idris just sniping with the s10 laser

[rigid brook]

Tbh with its torps becoming after thought and it presumably still having lighter then normal cap armor I think they should just let it lean more into glass cannon role, give it an up gun so it’s still weak but packs a punch

[sterile atlas]

devs cant balance for shit, rushed production becuase marketing want bigger numbers, cant compete gun to gun against cap ships

[sterile atlas]

that would imply they will ever look at the ship again after selling it

its all about the ironclad and idris and paladin now

[main violet]

i feel like they are gonna give us another run around like, "we listened to the community and made it better" when you made it worse on purpose

[fierce arrow]

No shield pen and a useless cargo room where missiles used to be.

[fierce arrow]

They said the Idris Ms railgun would not be pilot controlled. What makes you think this weapon which is "So power hungry you would have to turn off the shields to fire" would be any different?

[proper junco]

So it is a 1 button terminal to fire?

[fierce arrow]

2. One to disable shields and 1 to fire.

[proper junco]

Could have been automated where charging it drains the shield automatically

[fierce arrow]

That is true... But, they decided not too.

[rigid brook]

People aren’t even asking for Polaris to solo a idris but it’s guns should be at least able to bring down its shields or maybe at least 3 Polaris’s should make a idris have to think

[proper junco]

thinking about it, I wasnt exactly eager to pull out my Polaris for the event

but I would always volunteer my fighter for the hangar

[night cipher]

is that cuz you didn’t have people?

and yeah me too

polaris saw one use

i was like yeah this thing isn’t beating an idris

[proper junco]

oh I got a crew already with them and we were talking about what ship to use

[night cipher]

and i gotta wait forever to get it back

[proper junco]

I was too lazy to even think of getting it from location

so I simply didnt volunteer it

[rigid brook]

I personally do not like the way idris looks plus I’m rsi fan but recently been thinking of melting Polaris for idris

[proper junco]

maybe someday, the polaris will get s7 guns. someday

I was thinking of getting an Idris for its hangar

[rigid brook]

But that would play into giving cig more money so imma keep Polaris until a corvette comes out that can actually do combat

[proper junco]

rn only 1 f8c can fit in the Polaris but it can cram 2 hornets in it

it would be so nice to fit 2-3 f8s in a single hangar

now that I experienced having a wingman

[night cipher]

allat just to get out rolled

[rigid brook]

RSI carrier would go hard

[night cipher]

and blow up

[night cipher]

bengal flyable rn

[rigid brook]

Something more idris or kraken size

Heck I’d settle for rsi frigate

[fierce arrow]

I unironically didn't use my Polaris while also taking my 890J to 2 fights. It even survived 1 of them as well!

[proper junco]

I dont like Kraken's open hangar/pads

[fierce arrow]

They make it vulnerable to being bombed. It's the main turnoff for me.

[proper junco]

I think ill just keep this Polaris cuz its currently the largest carrier thats ccuable

an Idris K just isnt realistic for me to get in my country's economy

unless they make Idris ccuable 👀

[rigid brook]

Only if money gets tight

er

[fierce arrow]

890J??

[proper junco]

ew

[fierce arrow]

It isn’t much more than Polaris. May I ask what country?

[proper junco]

Philippines

where minimum wage a day is 10 bucks

average monthly income is 250 ish usd

for common folk ofc

[fierce arrow]

I get $10 bucks a day… in America!

[proper junco]

dont u guys earn by the hour there?

[night cipher]

brist only works 1 hour

[proper junco]

Idris wb is 1300usd

if I ever get 1300 to blow in one go ill post my Idris here

[night cipher]

i’m gonna put it on my cc at invictus

get that credit score UP🔥💯🗣️

then just instantly pay it off before i get touched by interest

[proper junco]

I already reached my cc limit

150 usd

Used it to get the lightning and intrepid game pack

Its due in 3 weeks

[night cipher]

YOUR LIMIT IS 150?!?

wth is that

that’s insane

[proper junco]

Its a digital money app that now offers credit

First time im using it

Didnt want to but then I decided to get the lightning and melted a lot of my smaller stuff

Now im putting that lightning to use

Ill then melt the lightning and get the 260wb one

Tho i dont think theres any more benefit to that cuz its not lti anymore

Maybe if I ask concierge support nicely

[night cipher]

yeah wouldn’t bother

if ya grabbed the free insurance upgrade

120m is the max now

maybe next year you can apply another 120m

[proper junco]

Oh no this was not the free insurance upgrade. Its the actual IAE one so its 120m

[night cipher]

wait it wont do anything

they take the highest insurance length and just use that

so if you had a 10yr and a 2yr it wouldn’t stack :(

[proper junco]

Hehe yea

[night cipher]

wait what if i melt my ship and rebuy will it reset the insurance timer?

or will it freeze

or will it continue even in BBs

who knows

[proper junco]

Does it go into buybacks when melted?

[night cipher]

everything goes into buybacks, but i guess upgrades are removed so probably not

but your one will

[proper junco]

Oh cool

[night cipher]

i wonder what happens when we melt

will it pause

reset

or keep going

[proper junco]

Some cig thing they will reduce it to 6 months

Man wish I had managed to saved up 260 for the lti one back in the day but it dropped as a surprise so it isnt fair

[night cipher]

yk i had to get ts 🙏🏻

i woulda grabbed 7 if i could for GM

i knew it wouldn’t be LTI again

[proper junco]

Apparently they were ungiftable

[night cipher]

should’ve alt farmed smh

[proper junco]

Lmao

[night cipher]

i think i saw a gift button

idk i’ll check

[proper junco]

Hopefully an f8a event comes and they resell the lightning with lti or the upgrade token comes with lti

Ill keep 300 cash in my account just in case

[night cipher]

nvm you right

[proper junco]

Gib

[night cipher]

F8C would literally be made redundant tho

[proper junco]

I mean the f7c mk2 still exist

[night cipher]

if i could gift it i would 🙏🏻

hate this thing now after nerf

[proper junco]

Ccu d my zeus to it

I keep it around and I like flying it

[night cipher]

yea i guess chris wanted mk1 to stay for the nostalgia but also knew the mk2 from squadron upgrade was necessary, they look so dated and aren’t the greatest

so it makes sense

that was the best option

retire one to classic car status and roll out new one

and make money as a bonus

i don’t think many other ships will see that or else they will get backlash and we will go on money strike

i say that but i’d still buy the connie mk5

and the 600i rework if it was a new ship

600i mk2

i was gonna say that’s a very predatory business model but then i remembered

that’s their business model

[proper junco]

Lmaooo

Who knows, they might even use the Idris M upgrade kit as another event reward

Ah well just gonna keep some $ on hand and pray for an f8a event with a lti resale

[rigid brook]

Polaris M upgrade kit when?

[proper junco]

Comes with up gunning

S9 fixed gun

S5 turrets

And better torps

[rigid brook]

I would just settle for better power output and better turrets

Talking dual size 6 or 7 nose, dual size 6 top all lasers and all the size 3s to size 4 and missile turret replace with quad size 4

[clear stag]

I would also be okay with those changes I could work around that but with one added thing I shouldn’t have to spend my entire fucking budget on one god damn run when the torps don’t do enough

I would accept paying 1 to 3 mill everytime but 14 mill makes me want to bomb settlements until our message is heard the UEE must pay

[main violet]

yeah 14 mill is insane like 100k per torp would have been perfect

2.4mill i think is still even high but it makes it worth it, if pdc didnt shoot at dumbfire and only entities that are currently locking ships would make them more balanced too

[novel remnant]

It depends on how much missions of that level will pay

[main violet]

easier coding too im sure a simple locking logic

id say a pay out of at least 800k for an idris fight

[novel remnant]

We might find that a idris mission pays 5m

We just don’t know yet and everyone is complaining

[main violet]

each fighter could pay 100k around the idris

yeah i get why ppl are mad but i believe they are just testing prices

[novel remnant]

Well they should have done more mission increases to go with it

[main violet]

yeah i imagine they will make that change they are just testing the limits of economic depravity

[proper junco]

they ll make the payout on the idris fight based on damage dealt

of which will be bugged and only attribute millions to the torpedo operator instead of the ship owner + trickle to crew

[opaque rain]

mission payouts should be set as percentages by party leader tbh

with other party members needing to approve so you can't pull shit off like giving your crewmates some cut then changing it at the last second

[rigid brook]

Idk I think everyone should just get the same amount the mission gives instead of splitting up cause star citizen missions are not group friendly with how little everyone gets when you play with others

[sharp raven]

I agree, but I wish you could share missions to only specific members of your party

I don’t want to share a scrapping contract to somebody else in my party whos shooting bounties

Or maybe we’re doing multiple bunkers split between groups (because you don’t need 8 people doing the same bunker)

I only need my teammate to see the bunker mission I’m going to

And the other group only needs to see what bunkers they’re doing

[rigid brook]

Cig do be funny sometimes

[main violet]

its rewind time

[night cipher]

YESSSSS😍😍😍

POLARISSSSS BUFFFF

[main violet]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-shocked-huh-fnaf-south-park-gif-1775592408159190479

[rigid brook]

Definitely not gonna help the servers

Cig will try everything but buff Polaris

[lament thunder]

Or even just the ability to adjust payouts to different members. I find when I'm just doing contract work in the Polaris rn I'm usually at a loss if I don't commit insurance fraud which blows. So the ability to adjust payouts would let me take a decent cut to rearm and repair while still paying the crew

[rigid brook]

Yea but everyone gonna be making nothing why work for you when they could solo stuff and make way more

[sharp raven]

I get that, during the context though, I was thinking of when Cheese borrowed my reclaimer so he could go scrapping and then found 2 other guys and in the end Cheese got a cut of 70% because he had taken the reclaimer from me even though I gave the reclaimer to him for free.

Anyways the point I’m trying to get at is equal work deserves equal pay, but I don’t disagree, sometimes you might need more to keep things running

[rigid brook]

SC really has no group missions besides server wide events which seems to be the only time to do stuff as a group and actually make money

[sharp raven]

With price increases, ERT’s might make around 150-200k I’m assuming

So then as a result, you’ll need money if you launch torps

Now granted nothing right now in ERTs, other than maybe an 890 is worth a s10 torp

[rigid brook]

Tbh just give Polaris up gun so it can lean more into glass cannon role and not have to wait for its intended target to be borderline disabled by support craft in order to even use its torps

[sharp raven]

Torps aren’t the worse to hit

Especially if you dumb fire

Idrises cant move for shit

Dumb fire is possible

[rigid brook]

Oh yes let me charge at a rail gun to fire a torp pray one gets through and another doesn’t blow up in my face

[sharp raven]

What?

Polaris exceeds in maneuverability over the Idris

[rigid brook]

It ain’t stealthy idris will see Polaris well before it gets into dumb fire range and be aiming its rail guns already

[sharp raven]

If you’re running at an Idris head on, that’s on the polaris pilot

[sharp raven]

You don’t need stealth

You can dumb fire is close quarters

PDC’s dont track dumb fires

They only tracks locks

Thus firing a s10 within 2-3km most likely wont be destroyed

Guh?

Huh?

What

Why

No

Wtf cig

thats obviously not supposed to be right

890 flew like a rock when I last played 😭

I guess I can’t quite comment then if I haven’t been able to play in months

[lament thunder]

absolutely, when I saw the potential price increase of the torps in the ptu I thought it was ridiculous, it's just making the Polaris ineffective to use. I do agree though there needs to be specific multicrew missions

[lament thunder]

also I get dumb fire It's possible it's just stupid that it's the most effective tactic short of ramming the Idris to kill it

the advertisement for the ship is literally the long range killer

fuck jamming would be a cool feature as a part of hacking or something

[rigid brook]

They do

[sharp raven]

No they don’t

[rigid brook]

Yes they do lol cig literally saw everyone do it and made them track dumb fire and bombs

[sharp raven]

Can you show me then?

[lament thunder]

shit that would explain them blowing up in my face lol

[coarse mantle]

They do

[rigid brook]

Dude been playing on bad servers and doesn’t know how hard idris slaps on a working server it slaps hard

[novel remnant]

They just need to make the torps Tv guided that we can "fly" the torp and "turn off" to let it glide into the target. Turning off reduces its EM and Heat so it is harder to detect from PDC's. This would let us shoot torps at 25km and actually be able to have a chance at hitting something. Make battles not nose to nose dumbfire, and gives a skill check to the button monkey.

Might make a torp WORTH the insane price

[rigid brook]

Cig literally told us the torps are working as intended, they are not a first strike weapon or an opening move, in cap warfare you need support ships to take out the defenses of enemy cap to use Polaris effectively (which my counter is if you have the firepower to borderline disable a enemy cap then you already won just finish it why bring Polaris)

Dumb firing will probably be nerfed by cig adding an arming range cause we not using them how they intended to be used

[novel remnant]

Oh, then change the intended use. its not that hard.

just because they have an idea does not make it a good one

[rigid brook]

IMO just leave the torps as is and up gun Polaris so it leans more into a glass cannon role, the torps still remain the intended afterthought, and it still has its light armor and oversized reactor weak spot

[novel remnant]

But they dont have to be an afterthought. why would a S10 anything be an afterthought?

[rigid brook]

Cause that’s how cig wants cap warfare I mean if the size 10s become relevant then the size 12 from Jav are gonna be OP as hell

[novel remnant]

Would you enjoy flying a S10 torp?

[rigid brook]

Idk I don’t think cig would be willing to change how cap warfare should play out and if that’s the case then it’s simple up gun Polaris and let it lean into glass cannon role

Otherwise Polaris is just fatter carrack or best armed cargo ship in game take your pick far from military cap

[novel remnant]

Well think about this. Two (or more) opposing cap ships see each other from 50km away. Small fightercraft take off from the hanger bays to get ready for combat. The tip of the spear Polaris shoots ONE S10 torp at the enemy cap. The Polaris fighters are trying to protect the torp from the other fighters while the cap ships close distance. There is a fighter battle over the single S10 torp. The torp engineer turns off the missile and lets it glide, reducing signature. The enemy cap performs evasive maneuvers. Miss. or hit, idk, it is only one S10 torp. It isn't going to kill another cap outright.

The allied idris passes the Polaris to directly battle the enemy cap, and a massive battle takes place like normal.

all that to say:
Flying a torp manually might even make it WORSE but it would be more FUN

[rigid brook]

Flying a torp manually will still be intercepted by pdc

[novel remnant]

yes, but not as easily if they made it that way

[rigid brook]

Idk cause bombs currently are detected by pdc and they don’t even have engines or targeting it’s just fall and boom

[novel remnant]

This is true

[proper junco]

knowing cig jank, the s12 will be slower than the s10 and fly at 50m/s

firing any closer will cause pdc s to target it while in the tube and blow up the jav

[sterile atlas]

Ships and Vehicles
➣ Origin 400i: Thruster Power Improvement Balance Pass
➣ RSI Scorpius: Increased Weapons Powerpool size
➣ RSI Polaris: Ambience Audio Polish Pass
➣** Reintroduced mass value to all ship thrusters (will help them be physicalized and not float in gravity)**

gulp

[weak hill]

Why no powerplant buffs for Polaris 😦

[rigid brook]

Cig hates Polaris confirmed

[lapis fable]

ask redeemer

[proper junco]

ship that is 25% powerplant doesnt have enough power

the difference between s4 and s3 isnt big it seems

[mossy yoke]

i love the new piloting in eptu and captains quartaers are cool

[patent galleon]

If the Javelin in S42 is any indication we might see the flight model for CapShips change significantly to actually follow the path indicator rather then them flying like normal ships. Right now the flight path isn't very accurate and is more of a line towards where you'll end up facing rather than where you'll be.

[fierce arrow]

#1252128354686206044??

[weak hill]

Can a gladius fit in cargo hold of Polaris?

[soft saffron]

oh FOR SURE

i think i saw a reddit post abt somebody fitting one in the lower cargo bay lol

yeah you could probably fit multiple

im not making promises tho

[night cipher]

cargo hold? yeah should do the pisces is taller i think and it can fit

i’ve managed to get a c8r in

[weak hill]

Yea I was talking about where the ground shits go, I want the “Idris at home”

[opaque rain]

im melting once ironclad and/or apollo releases ngl

i got like a %65 discount on mine but i cant

[halcyon estuary]

Silly question, do other guns react this way on other ships?

[weak hill]

Polaris is the best bigger carrack ever made LOL

[soft saffron]

lol

[rigid brook]

fatter carrack or best armed cargo ship in game, take your pick, sadly not military cap

[atomic badger]

Hopefully they add XL hangars to stanton space stations.

[lapis fable]

500hp guns

[weak hill]

Guardian fit?

[weak hill]

Looks like itll fill the hangar nicely by itself

[sage rover]

Any possibility of the Polaris getting a speed improvement?
150m/s in atmo and 250m/s in space is a bit of a pain lol

[amber breach]

Lmao

It's okay, the Polaris is a fast attack ship

[rigid brook]

Fast armored cargo ship*

[sage rover]

Lol my god. Even the hammerhead is faster I swear

[opaque rain]

granted everything else releases as is and without nerfs like the polaris, i think imma melt

only reason im keeping mine is the discount i got

[weak hill]

im just using it like Large Carrack. Its just a better carrack unfortunately and if i melted mine itd become a carrack

Still highkey temped to melt it anyways

[rigid brook]

Since size 10 torps are pretty much a joke, doesn’t odyssey have better turret loadout combined with more cargo and same hangar space

[sage rover]

I hear you guys, I might melt mine too.
Ill probably keep it for now as a cargo ship, see what comes out in the future.

I melted my Merchantman to get the Polaris 😄

[weak hill]

This would work if you could use it at space stations for cargo but you can't thus making it basically irrelevant for cargo hauling

[fierce arrow]

Same.

[fierce arrow]

Ok but the C2 has similar cargo and better pilot controlled weaponry.

[proper junco]

its a glorified carrier

[opaque rain]

^

not even that glorified

[proper junco]

u right

Idris P is

[opaque rain]

tbh im not even that mad about the stats

for almost 1k it just seems like a useless and redundant ship

when i first walked around it and saw the literal nuclear reactor in it i assumed it was going to have a shit ton of power to compensate for the guns

nop

[candid moth]

It's solid for a $200 ship at least. I'm happy with mine.

[proper junco]

Its a 375 ship for me

Barely more expensive than the TAC

It needs more power pips tho being a capital ship thats basically 25% powerplant

Otherwise the distinction of s4 is more of a nerf than a something to marvel at as 2 s3 powerplants thats a massively smaller has only 1 less power pip than a s4

[coarse mantle]

278 for me 🔥

[coarse mantle]

Yeah agreed on this

[proper junco]

Polaris Bunker runs

[weak hill]

What moon is that?

[proper junco]

Daymar

This is a low level bunker

Imagine the bunker security call for assistance and a capital ship just arrives. Out comes one man in a white undersuit. He comes out of the bunker fully armed

Now if only stations can accommodate XL ships for refuel, repair, and rearm

[rigid brook]

Now if only stations can actually refuel, repair, and rearm

[patent galleon]

You can at the docking ports last I tried

[night cipher]

i thought they can

i did it when polaris came out

it’s just cargo it can’t do

[rigid brook]

Just give stations big landing pads

[proper junco]

Okay so the pdc have a freindly fire threshold

Once exceeded will deem the ship that was shooting hostile

[brazen eagle]

peace was never an option. CIG kinda needs to balance this its bad if PDCs give you CS

[proper junco]

I dont think they do

As long as its your ship

[sage rover]

I am curious about the tractor beam inside. Would it have been better to be in the middle of the cargo area instead of the front?
It can't seem to look down the ramps very well. Kind of limits the usage of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpYA-FDAE4U

[brazen eagle]

depends CIG could have imagened it to be used internaly only

[sage rover]

I suppose. It just seems to be very limited lol.
I might make a post in the forums, see if anyone explains it

[frank lily]

Howdy Space Mates

Did you know

That the mighty Polly

Can only fly underwater for about 10 minutes. on Bloom...

Amazinf Facts...

Oh btw - HNYE Space Mates...!

[snow plume]

Anyone have any luck with the PDCs working on Preview?

[proper junco]

stand up from the pilot seat

[snow plume]

Just the pilot seat? Can you use the copilot seat?

[proper junco]

afaik the same bug happens for both seats

remember to put power on the guns

u get more ammo on the pdcs that way too

[snow plume]

Sounds good, thanks for the info

[fierce arrow]

Wait, they only work while I’m standing?

[proper junco]

U can sit back down afterwards

[sharp raven]

Can you call the cargo deck in a Polaris like you can with the hull C?

[sage rover]

Annoyingly no.
It would be very useful though.

I normally dock, store it then recall it and it will spawn in an extra large hanger where you can then move cargo.

Bare in mind not every station has an extra large hanger 🥲

[sharp raven]

Just Grim hex if I recall

[lament thunder]

in stanton yeah

[sharp raven]

Any in Pyro?

[lament thunder]

major stations

[proper junco]

Pyro planet stations give you a docking port but u can spawn in hangars

Wish they would just give me a hangar lmao

[sage rover]

Yeah it would help with hauling. Which is like the only thing the polaris is good for rn lol